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Yes, star players can have a significant impact on the odds of a bet or wager on a match, considering the four levels of contribution you mentioned. The level of contribution a star player provides in a match can influence the outcome and subsequently affect the odds. As prominent players have a significant impact on the final result of the game, bookmakers and betting markets consider their presence and performance when setting odds. It's crucial to remember that other factors, outside only the participation of the star player, such as team dynamics, recent performance, injuries, and other elements, affect the odds.
The odds is greatly effected by the players featured on the match and this also have to do with timing and some other factors that lead on to the ruin up of the match, if you have noticed, some matches that are 1 to 2 weeks ahead have higher odds and as the match day draw near, so the odds will start reducing or increasing because ot can go in both ways, but most importantly if a big player either get listed or removed from the feature due to either injury or othe factors that can also effects the odds. I have noticed this is the Asernal coming weekend game, when I checked last week that Gabrel Jesus was not yet on the lineup, the odds were higher, but with the recent hints that Jesus will play the weekend game, their odds have reduced since they know the star player will work to aid his team winning and increasing the possibilities.
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August 24, 2023, 08:55:40 PM |
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Of course, whether or not a star player plays or not will affect the odds, especially if the star player is the focus of a team. You can see it from the change in the odds of a match that will be played 4 or 5 days later. You can wait and then see what the odds will be for Inter Miami when Messi is injured or Al-Nassr when Cristiano is not playing. You will see a very significant difference.
I don't think any numbers from these low leagues matter. It would be interesting to see, for example, how PSG's chances change with and without Mbappe, or Bayern's chances with and without Kane. But there is one catch here. For example, with Mbappe the chances of PSG are 1.2, and without Mbappe 1.25 and it seems to us that 0.05 is a meager change, but in fact in the first case the probability is 83%, and in the second 80%. 3% is still minuscule right? Depending on what to look at - we all understand that PSG against an outsider in any case will not be quoted higher than, for example, 1.6 (otherwise bettors will take easy money), so this change should be assessed relative to some range where the rate can theoretically be. For example 1.15-1.6. so 0.05 of 0.45 is already a solid 11%.
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August 24, 2023, 09:16:21 PM |
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include: *playing part of a match, *playing a full match, *being substituted out and *being substituted in.
No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Do you mean whether a star player affects the odds from the perspective of a gambler or whether the bookies adjust the odds because of what's happening around a star player? Like whether he gets substituted in or not etc. I think that in-game odds never significantly changed if I recall correctly, when for example Mbappe was brought on in a game against Bayern Munich. That would also go too far I think. I think that most of these hypothetical four scenarios you outlined above are already priced into the odds provided pre-game by the bookies. From a gambler's perspective I think it can have some influence on the expectations. But would I place an additional bet because Messi gets substituted in in the 74' minute? I think I haven't done that so far. I was thinking more in line of the perspectives of the bookies when making odds, as at the time I created this conversation. It is okay to also express your opinion from the perspective of the gambler, at least we still get to see a difference in views from what everyone has seen before. The gambler has options and it is the quality of the information on their star player(s) and the team they play for, that can easily influence the kind of option and expectation they may or may not get.
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August 24, 2023, 09:53:03 PM |
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
I believe there are many factors that affect the odd, but I will say star players contribute seriously to the odd changes; in fact, I have witnessed it many times before. For example, when one particular star player gets injured, especially in training, you will see that betting companies are reducing the odds. It is due to happen, but I believe that only those who spend some time in a betting company may witness it. Let us know that the absence of stars in the squad always reduces the strength of the team,so star players always have important roles they play in making changes.
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August 24, 2023, 10:52:04 PM |
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you should see the odd with inter miami its prime example, with the presence of messi, its getting reduced in term of odds, so I guess it does affect how the way odds are judged. but I'd argue that a more established clubs in which have very good history of matches are definitely gonna be having more reduced odds in this case in which outweigh star player.
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August 24, 2023, 11:05:09 PM |
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include: *playing part of a match, *playing a full match, *being substituted out and *being substituted in.
No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
I don't think this is just for the star players but the team also is very important in a match making one odd to be bigger than the other that is mostly depending on the past matches. If a big team is playing with a small team then we expected the odd of the big team to be lesser than that of the small team. The small team is always given a bigger odds making them to put more effort to there winning. Most time when it's obvious that the big team will beat the small team, they are always given small odds to complete.
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August 24, 2023, 11:11:09 PM |
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include: *playing part of a match, *playing a full match, *being substituted out and *being substituted in.
No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
I don't think this is just for the star players but the team also is very important in a match making one odd to be bigger than the other that is mostly depending on the past matches. If a big team is playing with a small team then we expected the odd of the big team to be lesser than that of the small team. The small team is always given a bigger odds making them to put more effort to there winning. Most time when it's obvious that the big team will beat the small team, they are always given small odds to complete. The teams performance is much considered, however if a star player is in the squad the odds will surely have small difference from the regular odds. As said it is true that the leading team will have smaller odd against the trailing team. However if there is a star player the trailing team will also have better odds. This we can see with most of the sports. To know the difference we need to watch the odds variation on live betting.
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August 24, 2023, 11:15:56 PM |
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I believe it depends on the game that you are trying to bet on. Let's say you are betting on an NBA game and the star player couldn't play that game, that would affect their chances because only he might be the one who is going to make the scores and he being injured or not being able to play the game just decrease the chances of his team of winning.
They are star players for a reason they could carry their whole team. I think it's easy to say that they have an influence on how the game would turn out hence affecting the odds.
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August 24, 2023, 11:17:42 PM |
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier? Yes, they are. That's why they called "star players" in the first place as they are an important key of the team. Star players are a big factor; an important piece of a team while on the other hand, being a threat to their opponent. You will notice the change in most cases in pre-game odds and let's say these players are reported to be sidelined, It's noticeable that we can see a said team having unusual odds especially if this team is considered always a favorite. During a live bet, it also affects the changes of odds when let's say, these star players got injured in the game and have no chance of getting back. Even if the said team is currently in the lead, expect that odds will be changed against them due to the fact that the said star player plays an important role overall on the team.
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August 25, 2023, 05:44:25 AM |
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It obviously does affect the odds, the strength of a team is determined by the quality of its players and their recent form, so when a star player has been playing exceptionally well and their team has been performing very well, the bookies will definitely consider the presence of the star player in a match based on the levels of contribution you've mentioned, a start player playing a full match will obviously make the odds of them winning higher than them being substituted in or out.
However, I believe that the form of a player is also a very important factor for a bookie to consider before deciding the odds. Even if a team has more star players than one, if none of them has been performing well lately, the odds will be different because they are out of form and might not score or play well.
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everything you said is true, but if that happens, the coach usually has another strategy to maintain his team's performance in order to be able to win the match even though the star players have to be injured and stop playing. This sort of thing has happened in the past but it's also rare these days as star players will usually be able to maintain their physical stability to avoid getting injured to avoid something that could lead to an accident in a match. and usually if this problem occurs the team coach has a replacement player or else the formation will be changed to a stronger defense. Indeed, the coach must have another strategy if a star player is injured or unable to compete because the coach must be able to maintain the performance of other players so that they are not affected by the presence of star players. But usually, star players will become targets of the opposing team so that star players cannot show their performance during matches. Usually, the coach has prepared other players who may have almost the same performance as the star players so that it will continue to encourage other players to show their performance. But the problem is in the bookies because the presence of a star player can increase the bet.
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August 25, 2023, 04:05:16 PM |
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Of course, whether or not a star player plays or not will affect the odds, especially if the star player is the focus of a team. You can see it from the change in the odds of a match that will be played 4 or 5 days later. You can wait and then see what the odds will be for Inter Miami when Messi is injured or Al-Nassr when Cristiano is not playing. You will see a very significant difference.
I don't think any numbers from these low leagues matter. It would be interesting to see, for example, how PSG's chances change with and without Mbappe, or Bayern's chances with and without Kane. But there is one catch here. For example, with Mbappe the chances of PSG are 1.2, and without Mbappe 1.25 and it seems to us that 0.05 is a meager change, but in fact in the first case the probability is 83%, and in the second 80%. 3% is still minuscule right? Depending on what to look at - we all understand that PSG against an outsider in any case will not be quoted higher than, for example, 1.6 (otherwise bettors will take easy money), so this change should be assessed relative to some range where the rate can theoretically be. For example 1.15-1.6. so 0.05 of 0.45 is already a solid 11%. How do you view our discussion here, mate? it is precisely by looking at the minor leagues that we can significantly see how the odds change if a star player is played or not. I think it's irrelevant to discuss big teams here, for example if there's no Mbappe, they still have Neymar or Messi (a case study when Neymar and Messi were still at PSG), of course the changes that have occurred are not significant because Mbappe is not one the only star player there. Make lots of bets on minor leagues so you understand how changes will occur if key players/stars don't play any role in a match.
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Usually, the coach has prepared other players who may have almost the same performance as the star players so that it will continue to encourage other players to show their performance. But the problem is in the bookies because the presence of a star player can increase the bet.
its like a second tier player. I mean reserve players who have been planned to replace players who have the same playing style or equivalent playing quality to replace injured players. bookmaker actually does not have a problem with increasing the odds, its just that the bookmaker always adjusts the situation and conditions of a team and if there is a problem with a reliable player or other player, of course the bookmaker will change the odds quickly which can benefit the bookmaker himself. therefore we must always be careful when placing bets, must analyze carefully to see the quality of each player and the condition of all the players who will appear in the match.
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August 26, 2023, 09:28:50 AM |
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Usually, the coach has prepared other players who may have almost the same performance as the star players so that it will continue to encourage other players to show their performance. But the problem is in the bookies because the presence of a star player can increase the bet.
its like a second tier player. I mean reserve players who have been planned to replace players who have the same playing style or equivalent playing quality to replace injured players. bookmaker actually does not have a problem with increasing the odds, its just that the bookmaker always adjusts the situation and conditions of a team and if there is a problem with a reliable player or other player, of course the bookmaker will change the odds quickly which can benefit the bookmaker himself. therefore we must always be careful when placing bets, must analyze carefully to see the quality of each player and the condition of all the players who will appear in the match. Sometimes, the fandom has a big effect and impact on the number of bets. The popularity of each player has a huge point in the betting flow but I'm sure that coaches are aware of this and the management surely do something to make it a fair match. However, we shouldn't always focus on the popularity of each player but rather the quality and the strength of the players as a team. The underdog doesn't mean that they will always lose the game so we still have to be skeptical because usually, the result changes in the end.
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August 26, 2023, 10:34:47 AM |
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its like a second tier player. I mean reserve players who have been planned to replace players who have the same playing style or equivalent playing quality to replace injured players. bookmaker actually does not have a problem with increasing the odds, its just that the bookmaker always adjusts the situation and conditions of a team and if there is a problem with a reliable player or other player, of course the bookmaker will change the odds quickly which can benefit the bookmaker himself. therefore we must always be careful when placing bets, must analyze carefully to see the quality of each player and the condition of all the players who will appear in the match. That's right. And bookmakers can do it even in the middle of a match. And if we look at it while we're already getting bigger returns than our bet amount, we can stop our betting from getting out of the bet before things turn worse for us. Odds will change quickly, and I've seen it in Stakes, but I didn't cash out my bet because I saw hope for the team I chose to rise. Unfortunately, my chosen team ended up losing against the opposing team, which resulted in my losing too. But that's okay because it's just a few thousand satoshis. I still have to learn a lot about match analysis to get better results than before.
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Usually, the coach has prepared other players who may have almost the same performance as the star players so that it will continue to encourage other players to show their performance. But the problem is in the bookies because the presence of a star player can increase the bet.
its like a second tier player. I mean reserve players who have been planned to replace players who have the same playing style or equivalent playing quality to replace injured players. bookmaker actually does not have a problem with increasing the odds, its just that the bookmaker always adjusts the situation and conditions of a team and if there is a problem with a reliable player or other player, of course the bookmaker will change the odds quickly which can benefit the bookmaker himself. therefore we must always be careful when placing bets, must analyze carefully to see the quality of each player and the condition of all the players who will appear in the match. Sometimes, the fandom has a big effect and impact on the number of bets. The popularity of each player has a huge point in the betting flow but I'm sure that coaches are aware of this and the management surely do something to make it a fair match. However, we shouldn't always focus on the popularity of each player but rather the quality and the strength of the players as a team. The underdog doesn't mean that they will always lose the game so we still have to be skeptical because usually, the result changes in the end. Well, indeed, every good and famous player can indeed be taken as one of the best and it is obvious that if it is going to affect the sport, or the result, if we put Messi + CR7 + Haaland to play in the same team, then we will have a Great team up front and in the midfield, now, as good players and punters we know that this team has the advantage, it is obvious that they will have a great chance of winning. In friendly matches, what some coaches do is test the players they have on the bench, this so that they can have enough fire and they see that there is someone who is prepared to play at the top and start, or that they are the ones who They can be better prepared for substitution, this is what they use at the squad level so that they can play well and make the game more favorable to the team, because we could not say that what they play will have a winning impact on the other team, because also the other team can do a good job and obviously very good results can be obtained. The biggest teams in the world, when we talk about football, for example Madrid, Barcelona, City, Bayern, Inter Milan, are teams that have many stars, we could include Fraci's PSG only for Mbappé, they They have good stars and one of those stars, only one can make a difference, even if the other team is very well armed, so this brings a good consequence when comparing stars and their movements, achievements and seeing how they have played in the last games, well It brings that they can do things that can be favorable for their team, based on this a good prediction can be given, it is difficult for a team not to use their stars, because the stars will obviously always make a difference compared to the others, they have more It's easy to do your own thing as a common player who doesn't take too much risk, that's the difference.
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Let's assume that it has an impact. I think that people will contribute with the performance of these star players and at least the match will be exciting as well as increasing the competition in the match. This will lead to more goal positions in the match and even more goals. When a star player, that is, a player who has made a name for himself and is transferred to an unknown league, it will increase the curiosity there, so betting companies also set a rate accordingly. It will contribute to the outcome of the match and the team after a certain period of time.
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August 26, 2023, 10:22:34 PM |
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It obviously does affect the odds, the strength of a team is determined by the quality of its players and their recent form, so when a star player has been playing exceptionally well and their team has been performing very well, the bookies will definitely consider the presence of the star player in a match based on the levels of contribution you've mentioned, a start player playing a full match will obviously make the odds of them winning higher than them being substituted in or out.
However, I believe that the form of a player is also a very important factor for a bookie to consider before deciding the odds. Even if a team has more star players than one, if none of them has been performing well lately, the odds will be different because they are out of form and might not score or play well.
Correct, however casinos need to also consider the possibility that such a low performance cannot continue forever and at some point those start players will go back to their previous form and their performance will increase, this shows how difficult is the job of the bookies as they need to consider hundreds of factors in consideration before they release their odds, and even once they do they still need to update their given odds constantly depending on how the circumstances surrounding the match could change.
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boyptc
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August 26, 2023, 10:37:26 PM |
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It affect the game so it will affect the odds as much as it's reported early. In Dota 2, when there's a player that's being replaced by a stand-in, the great performance of that team and synchronization is changing.
That's why it is a factor that many are considering in terms of betting. The odds change but mostly, the way they play will entirely different because the chemistry has changed.
Not talking against those players that usually stand-in because they're there in time of great help by that team who's lack by one player in their main roster. But that's it, that changes a lot including the odds.
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August 27, 2023, 04:10:32 PM |
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Of course they affect the result of a game. Star players can win the game when they are motivated enough but sometimes they don’t perform well becsuse they get angry at something and then it costs them the game… So if a team has star player(s) then it is the coach’s responsibility to keep these players happy. Maybe give them some privileges but overdoing it will also create a lot of problems so it needs to be fine tuned. Look at C. Ronaldo, he is still winning cups for his team. It means he is happy.
Star player or not, each can affect the odds of a game in either in a positive or in a negative way. Being motivated shouldn't be subjective when it comes to important games because the career of our team is at risk here. So each player should always try their best each time they step up in the field. Coach on the other hand, also plays a big role for the teams success but it's normal for a coach to get angry about it's players. It doesn't mean they are a bad guy in real life. It's only a way to discipline its players if they have done something inappropriate. When we win, most of the times we are happy but some are also not for some reasons.
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