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August 27, 2023, 05:15:58 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.

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August 27, 2023, 05:22:37 PM
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Sports betting is a bit different from gambling in casino games. You get more information and data to work with. But luck is a key element whether it is sports betting or gambling. So as this is based on luck, involvement of such player would only be a normal thing and the results should be calculated by their past performances and present form.
But when we come out of the logic world and focus on emotion, then the answer might be different. On pages, it's all about calculating this and that and analyzing them. But in the real world, someone's presence can change the whole situation. As you mentioned, Messi and Ronaldo. Their presence can change situations, which will in many cases determine the final outcome. It comes from their past performances and reputation.

Imagine putting world's best player with some low rank players. If they don't know his existence, they won't be able to understand what he is capable of. They may think of him as the same level as them. And by the time they get adjusted to his type of gameplay, it will be too late by then.

I know I am saying a lot which can be described in short words, but this is something that needs to be explained. And the final answer is YES.
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August 30, 2023, 07:28:24 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
This is correct, even if a star player ends up having a terrible performance during the game, their mere presence is more than enough for the bookies to have no option but to change their odds, as they have no way to know how they will perform during a particular match or if they will suffer an injury during the game, so star players without a doubt have a huge effect not only on the odds but also on the way gamblers choose the potential winner, as if they find out one of those players is missing from one of those teams then it is likely they will consider changing their bets.
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August 31, 2023, 05:20:01 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.

Yes, and that is quite obvious that the odds of a certain game will literally be affected if there will be a star player playing on that certain team or not. Just take for example the NBA games, we know that some teams have 1 or 2 more star players and some teams have only one star player, so let's put ourselves in the bookies shoes, how will we put the odds towards the specific situation. Well, of course, we will favor the team who got more star players and list them as a favorite over the team who just have one star player on their roster.

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September 02, 2023, 06:28:08 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.

Yes, and that is quite obvious that the odds of a certain game will literally be affected if there will be a star player playing on that certain team or not. Just take for example the NBA games, we know that some teams have 1 or 2 more star players and some teams have only one star player, so let's put ourselves in the bookies shoes, how will we put the odds towards the specific situation. Well, of course, we will favor the team who got more star players and list them as a favorite over the team who just have one star player on their roster.
There is a reason star players are distinguished from the rest, and it is because when things are going badly for their team they can simply flip a switch on their minds and rescue a situation from which no other player could even think about making a comeback, increasing significantly the chances of winning for any team even when at a disadvantage, and forcing casinos to change the odds given by each team in order to account for this characteristic of star players.
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September 02, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
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I'd say they do affect the match itself and through this they affect the odds and the bet you are placing, the same way a fighter's recent fight will affect his odds and the value of bets in the next match.
You said that your question is simple, but the answer is even simpler. If a fighter is undefeated and won his last 5 fights in a row, the odds will be different than if he lost his last 5 fights. It's the same in football as the whole team is treated like one body. If a star player is injured and cannot play, it's like a team is injured as a whole and its odds will go down.

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September 03, 2023, 03:58:13 PM
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Of course star players has a big impact to the outcome and the result of the game. Even them existing in the game would greatly affects anyone's gameplay in the field in any other sports game. I just remembered the game of FIBA in the Philippines where Jordan Clarkson is being part of the team, it boosts the team knowing the fact that they have JC as part of their lineup. It's just having also a bad coach and how they handle the situation of the game is really poor so I still guess that even having a good players but if they handle the rotation poorly it will have a negative impact. Cause when JC got fouled out the team falls for the last quarter drastically it's like losing the core of the team. Star players could be consider as a threat by their opponent by just existing or their team mates as a core.

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September 03, 2023, 04:15:56 PM
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Of course star players has a big impact to the outcome and the result of the game. Even them existing in the game would greatly affects anyone's gameplay in the field in any other sports game. I just remembered the game of FIBA in the Philippines where Jordan Clarkson is being part of the team, it boosts the team knowing the fact that they have JC as part of their lineup. It's just having also a bad coach and how they handle the situation of the game is really poor so I still guess that even having a good players but if they handle the rotation poorly it will have a negative impact. Cause when JC got fouled out the team falls for the last quarter drastically it's like losing the core of the team. Star players could be consider as a threat by their opponent by just existing or their team mates as a core.
Yet, would you argue, perhaps, that a game, in its essence, is a  between talent and strategy? Speaking of Jordan Clarkson and the FIBA game in the Philippines; yes, having JC certainly would've put some in their sails. But let's not forget the betting odds at play. If you've ever placed a bet, you'd know that team dynamics, not just star power, influence the outcomes! And what's with the coaching staff, eh? Poor rotations are a gambler's nightmare. Why would a coach ever let JC be in a position to foul out? Do they not recognize the palpable drop in the odds when a star player is sidelined?

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September 03, 2023, 04:22:42 PM
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No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.

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September 03, 2023, 04:27:27 PM
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I would say that a star players involvement might not greatly affect some games but others it would affect it wildly.  As an outlier look at MLS league Miami before Messi joined and after.  They were one of the worst teams and then a top team with Messi.  I would definitely think the odds would swing wildly different if he did or did not plan on playing in a game, at least if it was known.  

This is a good example on how star players can affect the club and in the case of MLS, Messi's presense has become a fortune for them making them top the league and also it creates huge spectators and fans during their games which means financially, they generate more money from the sale of tickets unlike before.

Now the club reputation has increased after Messi help them lift the league which is the first trophy they have won. Do you know that the presence of messi.
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September 03, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
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Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.

It’s true the start player should keep his record so that his name was in the hearts of fan.After recruiting Ronaldo,he had made an hattrick goal at his old age as compared to the new player in the recent Saudi Arabia League.He also assist two goals and help their club to make some good win.This is the key factor of the Star players,they will help in the hard match to get drain to the down.Either by scoring the huge goal or assist into the goal.The star player was the key player of the game,So the full game is depend on him.He should take responsibility on the hard game and make some unique changes from the drain.

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September 03, 2023, 05:41:25 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
Star players will always be star players and can influence opportunities, and within a team, having star players will increase the players' self-confidence. They can play better because their performance has also increased with the presence of star players. This will affect the chances of the match against the opponent, so the team's chances of winning will be greater. This is a psychological game against the opposing team because they will think that the team with star players will perform better. Usually, the opposing team will pressure this star player so he can't move as agile as usual, and the coach is aware of this. But that doesn't affect the other players because they will help the star player.

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September 03, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
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Star player wouldn’t be called star player if their stats doesn’t prove their title. It’s not a placebo effect but rather a team can perform well if they knew someone reliable that will carry them to win since they will only need to support the star player to win.

In terms of odds, star player highly affect the odds since this player is typically dictate the tempo of the game and the team can’t replace the player which the gameplay revolves on him.

It’s true the start player should keep his record so that his name was in the hearts of fan.After recruiting Ronaldo,he had made an hattrick goal at his old age as compared to the new player in the recent Saudi Arabia League.He also assist two goals and help their club to make some good win.This is the key factor of the Star players,they will help in the hard match to get drain to the down.Either by scoring the huge goal or assist into the goal.The star player was the key player of the game,So the full game is depend on him.He should take responsibility on the hard game and make some unique changes from the drain.

Correct. Probably OP are describing the players the outstanding on diffent team that has no reliable teammates to assist him since ni matter how good star players is, He can’t carry a heavy team to success just like Lebron when he first join the Cavaliers. He made the team compete on the Finals but lose completely in the end since that’s the limit of his skills against full strong team.

This is why star players is very valuable on a game since they are the one who leads the match but also there’s some limitations like the one I pointed out.

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September 03, 2023, 06:09:26 PM
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Correct. Probably OP are describing the players the outstanding on diffent team that has no reliable teammates to assist him since ni matter how good star players is, He can’t carry a heavy team to success just like Lebron when he first join the Cavaliers. He made the team compete on the Finals but lose completely in the end since that’s the limit of his skills against full strong team.

This is why star players is very valuable on a game since they are the one who leads the match but also there’s some limitations like the one I pointed out.
Yes, star players have their limitations, because they are easily targeted on the the field by the opponent team and neutralized to prevent them from carrying the team on his back. That is the most efficient strategy a team can adopt against a rival which fully relies on a star player towards the victory. We have already seen it in several teams, including the national ones: Argentina with Messi and Brazil with Neymar.

Anyway, I have no doubts that even when the team has only one star player, he will boost the odds for that team on sportsbooks, because despite the limitations he is still a key player who can surprise the rivals with his speed, creativity, stealth and leadership.

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September 03, 2023, 06:14:02 PM
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I think yes, since they are one the factors for a team to win, it just meant that their attendance affect odds of the match. Moreover, they gameplay and the list you have provided also affects the odds. Why? They are players – they have an impact to the odd's calculation, and if you will think of the game's odds base from players, you should also have to know if they are star player or not. Surely, they increase the odds of winning of the team that they are in.
Star players will always be star players and can influence opportunities, and within a team, having star players will increase the players' self-confidence. They can play better because their performance has also increased with the presence of star players. This will affect the chances of the match against the opponent, so the team's chances of winning will be greater. This is a psychological game against the opposing team because they will think that the team with star players will perform better. Usually, the opposing team will pressure this star player so he can't move as agile as usual, and the coach is aware of this. But that doesn't affect the other players because they will help the star player.

For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.

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September 04, 2023, 04:45:55 PM
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For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.
These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.

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Star players have the impact over the odds as well as on the performance of the team. Just think of the Saudi Arabia Pro League teams, once after the deal of Al-Nassr team with Ronaldo the team odds have varied. The strategy varies based on the presence of star players, so will be the odds. When a star player is in a match, he'll be in focus much compared to the rest of the players. This means the star player's contribution is really valuable to the team and much expected one.

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For a team that has star players it is kind of a good strategy to implement. Star players serve as bait so that opposing players focus on star players and other players can freely arrange strategies to attack. In fact, star players on a team will have a good effect on a bet, but also look at the condition of all the players, what strategies are used. It's useless to have star players if you don't have the right strategy.
These star players can also break the opponent's focus, so they will be confused about who they should guard when playing on the field. They might lose control because having a star player could make the coach's strategy fall apart, and that would be an opportunity for his team to counterattack quickly. The coach must have prepared the right strategy to beat the opposing team so that his team can win and advance to the next round. The presence of star players can increase the enthusiasm of other players so that the match will become even more interesting.
What is clear is that star players on the field will be a very important factor in football and can cause problems for the opposing team. Apart from that, if a team has a very good star player, the opposing team will be reluctant and very careful in playing.
And star players can affect the opponent's mentality if the coach plays them at the right time and has a good strategy, so in my opinion star players greatly influence the final outcome of the match. And what you have to remember is that even if star players don't score goals, star players will be able to provide good assists or be part of the strategy.

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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.

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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The answer to your question is as simple as a YES, Key players in the sports industry does affect the odd bookies place on a team compared to another team with no key player, For example, when Messi or Ronaldo will be playing alongside other players as team in a match, it is already evident that the chances of such team winning that match is very high due to the presence of Messi, or Ronaldo, so, we dont expect bookies to place a high odds on such team since its expected that majority of the bets coming in will be going towards that team, so what i think bookies do or will do is to make the odds of that team not so attractive to bettors, and make the odds of the opposite or counterparty team more attractive to bettors, so as to discourage one sided bets.
Odds are calculated based on a number of factors and players' ability and standing is some of the major factor to consider when sport bets want to calculate their odds, and Clubs with top players are giving lower odds since their chances 0f winning the match is high compared to the chances of team with weak players.

Just as saying does club standing affect the odds, the answer to this also is yes, what is mostly used to allocate odds to clubs is the ability of the team to win and players are one of the agents of match-winning to clubs.
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