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August 25, 2023, 12:32:55 PM
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I'm also sure that for an international casino class they definitely provide a first aid kit. However, the first aid kit will not help people with heart attacks at all, the best way is to take them directly to the hospital.

Yes, I agree with you and the previous comments that the casino probably had a first aid kit but that it did not include a defibrillator. In large organisations it is not uncommon for there to be a defibrillator for every x number of people and at least some people are trained to use it if necessary.

However, I imagine that statistically it is very rare, and that it is not just because of one case that casinos the size of this one are going to be forced to have defibrillators and train their staff.
Yes.. maybe it's a new assignment for casino establishments that they have defibrillators in case a visitor has a history of heart disease.

But this is also a warning for us not to go to the casino alone. We will never know what will happen to us next. Therefore it is important for us to always be vigilant, alert and always anticipate the possibilities that will occur.

Someone's selfish attitude and greed make them choose to go to the casino alone because they don't want to lose. Because if they get a victory they have to share it with their friends.

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August 25, 2023, 12:42:08 PM
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I'm also sure that for an international casino class they definitely provide a first aid kit. However, the first aid kit will not help people with heart attacks at all, the best way is to take them directly to the hospital.

Yes, I agree with you and the previous comments that the casino probably had a first aid kit but that it did not include a defibrillator. In large organisations it is not uncommon for there to be a defibrillator for every x number of people and at least some people are trained to use it if necessary.

However, I imagine that statistically it is very rare, and that it is not just because of one case that casinos the size of this one are going to be forced to have defibrillators and train their staff.
Yes.. maybe it's a new assignment for casino establishments that they have defibrillators in case a visitor has a history of heart disease.

But this is also a warning for us not to go to the casino alone. We will never know what will happen to us next. Therefore it is important for us to always be vigilant, alert and always anticipate the possibilities that will occur.

Someone's selfish attitude and greed make them choose to go to the casino alone because they don't want to lose. Because if they get a victory they have to share it with their friends.

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, the casino's that I have been, they have like complete set of health workers with heavy equipment ready in case that something went wrong in their casinos.

I personally witnessed it once and they are quick to response in such kind of emergencies and they don't like to have this kind of situations on their floor. And I was told that emergency health personnel are there 24x7 being paid by casinos. So not sure how this casinos are not prepared or at least look the machines to help their customers in such situations.

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August 25, 2023, 02:19:35 PM
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/

This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

From that perspective, every public place should have someone who has an expertise in healthcare such as, restaurants, clubs, workplaces etc...
You never know one can get a cardiac arrest anytime. I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings but this incident can happen to anyone at any time.
Yes, I agree with your point that certain healthcare measures should be taken by the casino such as a partnership with some nearby hospital or something.
So that in case of emergencies the nearby hospital can send their ambulance quickly and get things done sooner.

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August 26, 2023, 01:54:17 PM
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Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, the casino's that I have been, they have like complete set of health workers with heavy equipment ready in case that something went wrong in their casinos.

I personally witnessed it once and they are quick to response in such kind of emergencies and they don't like to have this kind of situations on their floor. And I was told that emergency health personnel are there 24x7 being paid by casinos. So not sure how this casinos are not prepared or at least look the machines to help their customers in such situations.
It's good if you're in a casino that can have a health worker because that would be needed if something bad happened to the gamblers. While casinos don't want anything bad to happen to them, they also know that anything can happen, so they feel it's better to be prepared just in case. And other casinos should be able to do the same thing to guard against all the bad possibilities that can happen.

After all, bad things like that don't happen too often in casinos either. Maybe there will be new regulations for casinos that will regulate that casinos must have health workers with first aid for victims.
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August 26, 2023, 02:09:13 PM
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They are already prepared with any kind of (First Aid Kit)

But, do you know? most of the kit is only for the common case. Cardiac arrest (heart-attack) is not really a common case (it's really rare to be happening) and most of service provider is also are gonna to provided the same things that casino provided.

They are ready, for any kind common issue because that was the most they're facing.
Exactly, it was just too bad a timing or they didn't know the person was experiencing such case. As far as I know you won't open a casino if they aren't checked thoroughly by the corresponding agencies that handles it, they should abide with the health and safety protocols including first aid kits or they train personnels to do so.
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August 26, 2023, 07:19:24 PM
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Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, the casino's that I have been, they have like complete set of health workers with heavy equipment ready in case that something went wrong in their casinos.

I personally witnessed it once and they are quick to response in such kind of emergencies and they don't like to have this kind of situations on their floor. And I was told that emergency health personnel are there 24x7 being paid by casinos. So not sure how this casinos are not prepared or at least look the machines to help their customers in such situations.
It's good if you're in a casino that can have a health worker because that would be needed if something bad happened to the gamblers. While casinos don't want anything bad to happen to them, they also know that anything can happen, so they feel it's better to be prepared just in case. And other casinos should be able to do the same thing to guard against all the bad possibilities that can happen.

After all, bad things like that don't happen too often in casinos either. Maybe there will be new regulations for casinos that will regulate that casinos must have health workers with first aid for victims.
Every business, particularly establishments such as casinos, must prioritize the safety of their customers. Having medical personnel on standby? Absolutely brilliant! I've constructed numerous businesses throughout my career, and I've always believed in over-preparation. Casinos, with their flashing lights, thrilling games, and sometimes intense atmospheres, can undoubtedly raise a person's blood pressure

While it is true that emergencies in casinos are not common, it is still prudent to be prepared. You wouldn't believe the tranquility it provides! And why don't other casinos contemplate this? They're lacking a key element

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August 27, 2023, 12:36:34 PM
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Every business, particularly establishments such as casinos, must prioritize the safety of their customers. Having medical personnel on standby? Absolutely brilliant! I've constructed numerous businesses throughout my career, and I've always believed in over-preparation. Casinos, with their flashing lights, thrilling games, and sometimes intense atmospheres, can undoubtedly raise a person's blood pressure

While it is true that emergencies in casinos are not common, it is still prudent to be prepared. You wouldn't believe the tranquility it provides! And why don't other casinos contemplate this? They're lacking a key element
Yes, with all the entertainment in the casino, it can increase the tension, and of course, it will affect the health of someone who is playing gambling. So having medical personnel at the casino is necessary so that the casino can provide first aid to its victims and be taken to the hospital for further assistance. Having all the proper preparations can make the casino always ready for everything that can happen.

Indeed, in casinos, it is rare that things related to one's health happen, but there is nothing wrong if the casino can provide medical personnel every day and every hour. It will also give peace of mind to its members because they can see that the casino cares about all its members and those in the casino. And that will be a plus for the casino.
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August 27, 2023, 01:12:24 PM
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The casino most likely didn't know he was having a heart attack. If they did know, he would have been dragged out of the casino so that they will not have any responsibility for his death. Incidents like this don't happen often but I do think casinos have clinics to respond to such incidents.

If the guy was sitting looking at the table for a minute, without moving, the dealer should've asked if he's ok. Imagine you work at a restaurant and one guy looks like he's asleep at the table. You want to wake him up and ask if he's ok, as you don't want him to vomit there, or fall down and cut his head. I've seen this happen when a drunk guy wasn't feeling too well at the pub and went to the bathroom probably to puke. He came out all dizzy and cut his forehead. There was a lot of blood and they had to call an ambulance.
We're not machines at work and we shouldn't act like ones. IMO it was the dealer's fault.

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Cases of heart attack, as far as I know, have occurred more than once and almost casinos have experienced users such as health symptoms, that's almost the average casino or traditional gamblers like chicken gambling have ever happened to those who try to gamble at an advanced age, that's nothing new to my knowledge.
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However, for that overall the doctor or medical provided by the casino, I think it's a little contrary to medical law, they can only practice in legal places such as clinics, hospitals and those related to health, casinos/gambling venues I think most of them are illegal, it's a violation if a medical team is placed there, maybe if it's a medical call I think there is, of course they don't treat patients in the casino, they take them to the hospital if there is a health problem that happens in the casino.

If you ask who is at fault, of course the user is at fault, who told him to gamble, already knows he has a heart history, why does he keep going to the casino, he's looking for disease.

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August 27, 2023, 02:26:47 PM
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If you ask who is at fault, of course the user is at fault, who told him to gamble, already knows he has a heart history, why does he keep going to the casino, he's looking for disease.
Yes, maybe because of his history of heart disease that made him a gambler, as we know that to treat this disease requires a lot of money and it costs a lot of money to treat this disease so maybe gamblers who have a history of this disease have reasons to play gambling in the casino, but in fact this is still an error and must be blamed, the casino cannot be blamed even so there must still be a first aid service.

Because we don't know about this incident happening in casinos even though it is very rare in any casino, but this can be prepared to prevent it from happening where people have a heart attack while gambling and can be taken immediately to the hospital using the casino's ambulance if there is one. to make it easier to solve such serious problems to be dealt with quickly.

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August 27, 2023, 02:50:06 PM
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Yes, maybe because of his history of heart disease that made him a gambler, as we know that to treat this disease requires a lot of money and it costs a lot of money to treat this disease so maybe gamblers who have a history of this disease have reasons to play gambling in the casino, but in fact this is still an error and must be blamed, the casino cannot be blamed even so there must still be a first aid service.

Because we don't know about this incident happening in casinos even though it is very rare in any casino, but this can be prepared to prevent it from happening where people have a heart attack while gambling and can be taken immediately to the hospital using the casino's ambulance if there is one. to make it easier to solve such serious problems to be dealt with quickly.
Really, you blame the gambler?

Heart disease often occur when he's surprised or anxiety, I don't read where the gambler is losing all of his money, so gambling isn't the reason in this case. This is just unexpected, the gambler isn't wrong and the casino can't be blamed too.

If the gambler feel anxiety because he lose in gambling, he must know if gambling is only for fun.

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August 27, 2023, 04:56:06 PM
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They are already prepared with any kind of (First Aid Kit)

But, do you know? most of the kit is only for the common case. Cardiac arrest (heart-attack) is not really a common case (it's really rare to be happening) and most of service provider is also are gonna to provided the same things that casino provided.

They are ready, for any kind common issue because that was the most they're facing.
I think there are also lots of cases of Cardiac Arrest especially if the weather is hot or the place/area is hot. Another cause of it is too much excitement which can be felt when we play gambling. If a casino can offer other promotions, then I believe they also have first aid kit.

It's one of the ways to show their support to their customer and customers will have a good impression with it, so they can come back again on this casino. If we know that we have a problem with our heart, it would be better to avoid things that can trigger it. Asking someone to bet for us, might still be a bad idea because it can still cause us to be emotional whatever the results are.
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first of all, surely the dealer is to blame. Why wait all this time in front of a particular event? I find that really absurd...

second importante thing, the casino should set up company procedures for such cases and always provide proper education to its employees. Employer should follow always instructions while on work...

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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/

This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
Do the dealer know that the man is having a cardiac arrest? I think not given the table still has players who are playing. I think that the victim didn't show signs of getting a cardiac arrest or ask for help. Personally, I will be bothered if my opponent in the table is having a cardiac arrest, I will personally the one who will go out of the table and ask the dealer to get help but yeah, we really don't know what actually happened.

Happenings like this are unexpected and I'm sure that the casino has their own clinnic or personel that is incharge of this kind of situation, I'm also positive that the dealer won't sacrifice his job by not helping the gambler.
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August 30, 2023, 03:28:39 AM
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Do the dealer know that the man is having a cardiac arrest? I think not given the table still has players who are playing. I think that the victim didn't show signs of getting a cardiac arrest or ask for help. Personally, I will be bothered if my opponent in the table is having a cardiac arrest, I will personally the one who will go out of the table and ask the dealer to get help but yeah, we really don't know what actually happened.

Happenings like this are unexpected and I'm sure that the casino has their own clinnic or personel that is incharge of this kind of situation, I'm also positive that the dealer won't sacrifice his job by not helping the gambler.
To be fair determining that a cardiac arrest took place can be difficult for the untrained person, as people can literally drop dead without presenting any symptoms, so in an environment in which people get drunk all the time and they pass out while gambling then differentiating between those people and those having a heart attack can be difficult.

However some protocols should still be in place in order to try to prevent such events from happening and giving medical care as fast as possible to those people, and I think that is where the casino linked at the OP failed.

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This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

This is really a sad incident.  Sad
I do not know who is right or wrong in this incident but the people who can't control their emotions and who feel a lot of tension about losing on gambling or being treated in a wrong way, they should not play gambling.

Gambling is made for those who have big hearts and strong minds and who are able to absorb the pressure of the game, the pressure of a loss. Gambling is not designed for weak-hearted persons.

I have seen people faint upon having lost in the casino but this story of a deceased person is a new one for me.

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August 30, 2023, 05:51:58 AM
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I think casinos aren't to blame here because its up to states/countries to define laws enforcing health clinics or doctors in casinos. I feel like crowded casinos must have doctors for sure if they are far away to any health facilities. Emergency issues like this one happen very rarely but its very deadly as well. Cardiac issues are very dangerous sadly it's sometimes about your luck. My relative once experienced same went to hospital lately but survived.
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August 30, 2023, 05:59:12 AM
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In offline casinos there'll be emergency medical services, none could've thought that he's suffering from Cardiac arrest. Human life is more important, and surely the dealer could've stopped the play and taken necessary measures. Now the blame shouldn't be on the dealer or the casino. Whenever we spend money we can experience the difference in our heartbeat. I don't know about others, but I personally experience difference and we only need to be responsible handling ourselves understanding gambling isn't meant for us.

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August 30, 2023, 06:03:14 AM
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This is happening a lot more than most people think. You have to remember something.... a lot of pensioners are gambling at these brick n mortar casinos and their health are poor. They sit for hours behind a Slot machine or at a gambling table under stressful circumstances and before you know it, something bad happens.

I have seen elderly people going to casinos in wheelchairs with oxygen masks packed in the back, because they are so addicted to gambling that not even their health conditions can keep them away.

I have even seen videos where gamblers urinate on their chair in front of the slots that they are playing..... not wanting to take a break to go to the toilet.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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August 30, 2023, 06:06:14 AM
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This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?

If the guy died in a bank, should the bank be blamed for his death? If the guy died in a Wallmart or Target store should Wallmart and Target be blamed for his death. What will happen, if all grocery stores, banks and offline casinos are required by the law to hire medics and buy medical equipment, just in case such thing happens? There won't be enough doctors and nurses to cover this growing demand.
This is the American judicial system, everyone is suing everyone for money. I don't blame the family of the guy, who died. They are just trying to take advantage of the system.

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