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September 15, 2023, 05:49:24 PM
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If the OP looks at the current Bitcoin (BTC) price movement, yes, it can be said to be a bit boring and on the other hand the effect makes many investors still wary of further declines. Well, I tried at Point D only. this is the safest and most comfortable in my opinion. My reason is because if someone buys current for long term hodling this is not a problem which means for him. Precisely those who want to take a new entry should think further and if there are investors who feel uncomfortable with the fluctuations in the crypto market, then they might consider taking a break first while staying informed of course.

I do recommend people to purchase BTC as soon as they discovered its existence.

From basing it purely on its price history index, the trend of its price is increasing. Even if there are occasional dips, the trend still remains upwards due to its inflationary nature. Given that the fork is coming, it is highly recommended for everyone to stock BTCs in order to take advantage of its sudden price increase on the future.

Though this may be the case, always consider your investments as something that should be protected. Even if this is the case for BTCs, investments are not "magic" that can give you a guaranteed profit.

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September 15, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
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Looking at the current price I would say that there is going to be some sort of movement very soon. I think its going to be a bit more active in the near future. I wouldn't be able to say if its going to go up or go down but I can say that its going to be pretty great volatility without a doubt. Why do I think that? Well to main reasons, it looks like its more volatile already but between smaller amounts, if you look at it, you will see even if its just 100 dollars, it goes up and down a lot more frequently. Secondly, I think it has been staying too still around the same prices for way too long, which could be a reason for it to start moving again since traders will want that to happen soon.
Yes, despite the current situation, I can't still say that we are in the bear season. However, it causes some panic in others which makes the price stay long.
But I see this as an opportunity to accumulate more while waiting for the recovery. This year seems to be not a good year for crypto but next year will be somewhat be good as halving is expected to happen.
We may not see the price rise instantly but for sure the market will turn bullish when the time has come, yet we never know when. However, if we could just wait, certainly wasn't regretting.

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September 15, 2023, 09:43:47 PM
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While I agree that only one can never precisely guess where the bottom will be, one can guess when the dip or pump is coming to an end. And if one knows this, one also knows that anything that goes up must come down. And the reverse is also true. Buying at what you consider to be the bottom can be a good strategy, if you have the necessary experience and self-discipline. Although personally, I divide my money up and buy at each bottom. That way you gain some of the advantages of a good DCA strategy and divide up your risks.

It has worked for me quite well. Although I cannot say that it will work forever. At some point even I could take a miss-step and lose money.

Do what feels most comfortable to you. I am not here to advise on trading strategies or financials.

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September 15, 2023, 09:58:30 PM
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Looking at the current price I would say that there is going to be some sort of movement very soon. I think its going to be a bit more active in the near future. I wouldn't be able to say if its going to go up or go down but I can say that its going to be pretty great volatility without a doubt. Why do I think that? Well to main reasons, it looks like its more volatile already but between smaller amounts, if you look at it, you will see even if its just 100 dollars, it goes up and down a lot more frequently. Secondly, I think it has been staying too still around the same prices for way too long, which could be a reason for it to start moving again since traders will want that to happen soon.
Yes, despite the current situation, I can't still say that we are in the bear season. However, it causes some panic in others which makes the price stay long.
But I see this as an opportunity to accumulate more while waiting for the recovery. This year seems to be not a good year for crypto but next year will be somewhat good as halving is expected to happen.
We may not see the price rise instantly but for sure the market will turn bullish when the time has come, yet we never know when. However, if we could just wait, certainly wasn't regretting.

In trading bear market is the time to accumulate.  We all know the bear market is a time when the sentiments of people are not favorable to the market.  It is the time when the price is plummeting and people tend to sell.  If we have the funds, it is best to take advantage of these dumps.  Since we are talking about Bitcoin here, it is proven that after the Bitcoin bear market, the bull run market will follow where the demand keeps flocking in and the Bitcoin market sentiment is very positive.  So accumulating during the bear market will simply give us more profit when the Bitcoin price starts to uptrend.

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September 16, 2023, 09:48:39 AM
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While I agree that only one can never precisely guess where the bottom will be, one can guess when the dip or pump is coming to an end. And if one knows this, one also knows that anything that goes up must come down. And the reverse is also true. Buying at what you consider to be the bottom can be a good strategy, if you have the necessary experience and self-discipline. Although personally, I divide my money up and buy at each bottom. That way you gain some of the advantages of a good DCA strategy and divide up your risks.

It has worked for me quite well. Although I cannot say that it will work forever. At some point even I could take a miss-step and lose money.

Do what feels most comfortable to you. I am not here to advise on trading strategies or financials.
Your plan for buying seems to be working out great. Its like building a sculpture piece by piece without overwhelming any part. Your plan is a mix of what you know and what you think you should do. Bitcoin can blow any direction at any time, like the wind. Remember that past success doesnt guarantee future success. The crypto world rarely sees growth like your recognition of possible faults. I admire that you dont preach here. Sharing experiences without telling others what to do is a welcome change

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September 16, 2023, 02:14:31 PM
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While I agree that only one can never precisely guess where the bottom will be, one can guess when the dip or pump is coming to an end. And if one knows this, one also knows that anything that goes up must come down. And the reverse is also true. Buying at what you consider to be the bottom can be a good strategy, if you have the necessary experience and self-discipline. Although personally, I divide my money up and buy at each bottom. That way you gain some of the advantages of a good DCA strategy and divide up your risks.

It has worked for me quite well. Although I cannot say that it will work forever. At some point even I could take a miss-step and lose money.

Do what feels most comfortable to you. I am not here to advise on trading strategies or financials.
Your plan for buying seems to be working out great. Its like building a sculpture piece by piece without overwhelming any part. Your plan is a mix of what you know and what you think you should do. Bitcoin can blow any direction at any time, like the wind. Remember that past success doesnt guarantee future success. The crypto world rarely sees growth like your recognition of possible faults. I admire that you dont preach here. Sharing experiences without telling others what to do is a welcome change
Well, it is pretty clear that the final decision is in our hands whether we invest or not. It is not a question of when to buy but the question is if we are really prepared for the next thing that happens in crypto because until now, the direction of the market is unclear.
Of course, I use my strategy that worked already but can't assume that it will work for others because of some points - differed from making decisions and level of market understanding. I would agree that it was not necessary to urge people to invest but to give them a hint is enough, and it's up to them to decide.

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September 16, 2023, 03:26:21 PM
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when is the bottom and how much is the dip?

i believe that when the price is dumping then we need to take that advantage to  buy , and hope that the continues drop will give us more opportunity .

when we are buying , we must understand that there are no way that we can speculate exactly or predict so we must bear  with the system.
It is a must to be patient when we buy at low prices or when a decline is occurring. Because if someone is not patient enough when buying Bitcoin or something, he may not get anything and it would be better for him not to buy anything. Because people who have made the decision to buy at a low price are people who are very prepared for everything that will happen in the market and logically being patient is something that must be included in themselves when they decide to buy at a low price.

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September 16, 2023, 03:44:58 PM
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The market did not grow as we expected. We expected the Bitcoin market to be between $50K and $60K in mid 2023 to late 2023 but so far the market is under $30K. We have already crossed the middle period of 2023. Now we are at the end of 2023. The time left to the end of 2023 is that the market will grow a lot only then our expectations will be fulfilled. Looking at the market movement, it seems that the market may move to a good position very slowly. If the market slowly moves higher then we will have to wait some more time for the market to reach $40K to $50K. If we wait we will surely get something good.
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The market did not grow as we expected. We expected the Bitcoin market to be between $50K and $60K in mid 2023 to late 2023 but so far the market is under $30K. We have already crossed the middle period of 2023. Now we are at the end of 2023. The time left to the end of 2023 is that the market will grow a lot only then our expectations will be fulfilled. Looking at the market movement, it seems that the market may move to a good position very slowly. If the market slowly moves higher then we will have to wait some more time for the market to reach $40K to $50K. If we wait we will surely get something good.
September usually is never a good month for bitcoin, I don't really care about today's value, let's see how we end the year: if in the next months will reach $35-40k for me it would be a great result, and anyway let's not forget that the most interesting part will come in 2024 and 2025, this is just a transaction year.

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I was thinking that before the end of this year Bitcoin will spike and get to $60k or not lower than $40k or far above it and it has just been my prediction, I also did not think that Bitcoin will even drop bellow the $28k level again this year, but I believe I got disappointed on my assumption and it was really a good thing that my assumption failed, because if it had not, I will not be able to buy bitcoin around $26k and also bought in $25k.

Many scholars have previously researched and considered the Bitcoin market in particular. By the end of the year Bitcoin had a chance to stay close to $60k but it turned out differently. Although this admission has come down to a much lower price, earlier when the Bitcoin market was above $30,000, it was predicted that Bitcoin would soon approach $40,000. But that was no longer possible but since then the market condition gradually worsened and the market crashed downwards. Right now bitcoin market is $26000 dollars so if we don't choose it for investment then definitely profit is possible. I think now is the right time for it and the best and wisest thing to do is to invest now and hold and wait until the bull market.

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September 16, 2023, 08:54:50 PM
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September usually is never a good month for bitcoin, I don't really care about today's value, let's see how we end the year: if in the next months will reach $35-40k for me it would be a great result, and anyway let's not forget that the most interesting part will come in 2024 and 2025, this is just a transaction year.
It is still in the middle of September, not sure whether the market still goes without a significant move. But so far, I agree that September isn't a good time for Bitcoin and altcoins as a whole. Almost all crypto coins are difficult to increase during this month, it is probably because we have some bad news lately. The issue related to the intervention and accusations of SEC to some crypto platforms, make investors to feel a bit worried. If this news never ends, it is difficult for BTC to rise above $30k again.

I also expect the price of Bitcoin can be around $35k-$40k in the next 3 months. We are actually not very far from BTC halving, but the price still looks hard to increase. I sometimes think that it is because many whales still want to buy more.


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September 16, 2023, 10:33:00 PM
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If the OP looks at the current Bitcoin (BTC) price movement, yes, it can be said to be a bit boring and on the other hand the effect makes many investors still wary of further declines. Well, I tried at Point D only. this is the safest and most comfortable in my opinion. My reason is because if someone buys current for long term hodling this is not a problem which means for him. Precisely those who want to take a new entry should think further and if there are investors who feel uncomfortable with the fluctuations in the crypto market, then they might consider taking a break first while staying informed of course.

I do recommend people to purchase BTC as soon as they discovered its existence.

I would suggest that they must learn and understand about the market.  This way the can't easily sell their holding.  They won't be particiatingi n an activity where Bitcoin is being dumb because of lack of belief.

From basing it purely on its price history index, the trend of its price is increasing. Even if there are occasional dips, the trend still remains upwards due to its inflationary nature. Given that the fork is coming, it is highly recommended for everyone to stock BTCs in order to take advantage of its sudden price increase on the future.

Though this may be the case, always consider your investments as something that should be protected. Even if this is the case for BTCs, investments are not "magic" that can give you a guaranteed profit.

I agree that Bitcoin is still in an uptrend when the chart history is zoomed out.  But we shoud not deny the fact that diamonds have kept the market away from frequent crashes because this people are the believer of BTC and will hold them even though there is a lot of FUD lurking around the market.

So with an uptrending market, we must take advantage of it to gain profit from our investments.

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The history of the bitcoin had play huge role in the game,the experienced players will use holding steps at the bear market.The buying price of the bitcoin was important one in the trading.The traders will hold the bitcoin to take advantages at the time of the bull run.The bitcoin holing wallet after buying can be used with some security features.The bitcoin had the capacity to give the profit of 100 percentage from their investment.So now it’s good coin to inverse your money in the bitcoin as compared to other trusted coin
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Market's price is really unpredictable so there's no assurance when is the best time to buy and sell, but people could conclude some outcome by the sudden movement of the market's value it's either it has been affected by the following: trends, news, and any updates. In short, you'll need to have another plan incase your technique and strategies did not meet your expectation. DCA is literally the best and safest way in especially in bearist cause you'll have options such as selling and holding you'll just need to wait for the right time.

The market movement of crypto is always sudden but sudden decision are forbidden during such situations. The main cause is supply and demand which is regularly changing based on news so whenever more people wish to accept crypto then market will boost otherwise it will remain lower and desire of people is depened on the news.
 
The Bull run is not so longer as that of bearish one so as more you wait more you will be profitable because success takes time. Instead of crying during bear market it is necessary to wait for the better movement of market because with crying neither you can avoid loss nor you can get profit but with patience you can control your emotions so avoid crying and accepting patience if you want victory.









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Market's price is really unpredictable so there's no assurance when is the best time to buy and sell, but people could conclude some outcome by the sudden movement of the market's value it's either it has been affected by the following: trends, news, and any updates. In short, you'll need to have another plan incase your technique and strategies did not meet your expectation. DCA is literally the best and safest way in especially in bearist cause you'll have options such as selling and holding you'll just need to wait for the right time.

The market movement of crypto is always sudden but sudden decision are forbidden during such situations. The main cause is supply and demand which is regularly changing based on news so whenever more people wish to accept crypto then market will boost otherwise it will remain lower and desire of people is depened on the news.
 
The Bull run is not so longer as that of bearish one so as more you wait more you will be profitable because success takes time. Instead of crying during bear market it is necessary to wait for the better movement of market because with crying neither you can avoid loss nor you can get profit but with patience you can control your emotions so avoid crying and accepting patience if you want victory.
Market does have those probabilities of movements which either bearish or bullish on which it would really be that impossible that it would really be just moving in a single path and this is why it would really be that wise on making out such move on the time that you would really be that doing such accumulation. Chasing up the bottom or trying to hunt those numbers isnt something new because people would really be finding out ways
or having those intents on chasing up those bottoms and this is why we do keep on waiting even its already that too delusional like those 10k bearboys and now the price had made out some recovery then this would
really be leading up the emotion that you had missed out such thing and this is why it would really be that wise or better that you should be taking up the consideration on buying into those low price because
making profits does really need up that risks taking thing.

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Market's price is really unpredictable so there's no assurance when is the best time to buy and sell, but people could conclude some outcome by the sudden movement of the market's value it's either it has been affected by the following: trends, news, and any updates. In short, you'll need to have another plan incase your technique and strategies did not meet your expectation. DCA is literally the best and safest way in especially in bearist cause you'll have options such as selling and holding you'll just need to wait for the right time.

The market movement of crypto is always sudden but sudden decision are forbidden during such situations. The main cause is supply and demand which is regularly changing based on news so whenever more people wish to accept crypto then market will boost otherwise it will remain lower and desire of people is depened on the news.

Since the crypto market is in an open market, they are highly volatile due to supply and demand where the demand is affected by the market sentiments and the manipulation of people who have huge amounts of funds and coins. As the sentiments is affected by news, many people who want to influence the Bitcoin market often exaggerate news and create FUDS or Hypes that make the value of Bitcoin to have a high fluctuation.


The Bull run is not so longer as that of bearish one so as more you wait more you will be profitable because success takes time. Instead of crying during bear market it is necessary to wait for the better movement of market because with crying neither you can avoid loss nor you can get profit but with patience you can control your emotions so avoid crying and accepting patience if you want victory.

First in order to not be affected by the bearish situation, one must have a good knowledge about the Bitcoin market.  With the knowledge of the history of Bitcoin price, people will know that Bitcoin has the ability to recover thus, holders will keep on holding and newcomers with the bitcoin market knowledge will not succumb to FUD.  Instead, they wil buy every dip so that they can have a better profit when the Bitcoin market recovers.

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September 18, 2023, 10:20:54 PM
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A; you may be waiting for the bottom and the market will recover so quickly than you less expect.
When the market is dip, it’s better to just buy and hold. If you are waiting for the market to reach the bottom, then you are getting everything wrong, nobody knows how low the market will go, and you will never know when the bottom has been hit. Sometimes the bottom will have been hit, but you will still keep on waiting for more dip, but the market will change direction and you will miss the opportunity. So the best thing is to just do your analysis. When you think it’s a good entry price, just buy and hold.

B: Because you will still make profit if you buy the dip
People are not always satisfied with the profit they make, that’s why they always prefer to buy at the lowest price to maximise their profits. But sometimes we just have to be satisfied with the little profit we make, or we might end up losing everything.

C: because there were even investor who bought at a higher price and you have a better opportunity to buy the dip.
Some investors bought bitcoin at its all-time high, and they are still holding even as bitcoin is down. They still have confidence and believe that bitcoin will bounce back and go higher than the price at which they bought it, so people who are buying bitcoin currently are not supposed to even panic about the dip.

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September 19, 2023, 04:31:44 AM
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While I agree that only one can never precisely guess where the bottom will be, one can guess when the dip or pump is coming to an end. And if one knows this, one also knows that anything that goes up must come down. And the reverse is also true. Buying at what you consider to be the bottom can be a good strategy, if you have the necessary experience and self-discipline. Although personally, I divide my money up and buy at each bottom. That way you gain some of the advantages of a good DCA strategy and divide up your risks.

It has worked for me quite well. Although I cannot say that it will work forever. At some point even I could take a miss-step and lose money.

Do what feels most comfortable to you. I am not here to advise on trading strategies or financials.
Well obviously you are right, one experienced Bitcoiner hanging out in Bitcointalk forums can guess exact dip levels to maximize their gains. But it will always be risky. As you say, one can lose money but with OP's method, buying at different dip levels will minimize your losses for sure. In the end it's all about making your overall cost lower. Exact dip may be 20k but buying around 23k with %5-10 of your money will never hurt your wallet. If it goes down more you can keep accumulating.
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Well obviously you are right, one experienced Bitcoiner hanging out in Bitcointalk forums can guess exact dip levels to maximize their gains. But it will always be risky. As you say, one can lose money but with OP's method, buying at different dip levels will minimize your losses for sure. In the end it's all about making your overall cost lower. Exact dip may be 20k but buying around 23k with %5-10 of your money will never hurt your wallet. If it goes down more you can keep accumulating.

I think buying on every dip in the crypto currency market is the best strategy. The main reason for this is that if you have bought at a higher price, you can improve your average by buying further below,but your point is correct that there should be a correct estimate for this too. The purpose of dip is not that if the price goes down even a little, you should buy immediately, but there should be a proper gap between the first purchase and the second purchase.


This also requires experience and knowledge so that you can improve your average with each dip and minimize losses.It is the best investment to shop at every suitable and accurate dip.However, no matter how much the market falls, we should take advantage of this falling market because no one knows at what point the market will start to recover,and on every crash we should keep accumulating crypto currency. All experienced and expert investors always buy through DCA.


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First in order to not be affected by the bearish situation, one must have a good knowledge about the Bitcoin market.  With the knowledge of the history of Bitcoin price, people will know that Bitcoin has the ability to recover thus, holders will keep on holding and newcomers with the bitcoin market knowledge will not succumb to FUD.  Instead, they wil buy every dip so that they can have a better profit when the Bitcoin market recovers.

Those people will be able to take the winnings who has firm believe and should notice the nature of bitcoin. Fear in heart can cause a missing of lucky occasion because you will sell your bitcoin at lower price and will not wait for booming worth.

I don't understand that people quickly trust in negative news but they don't believe about the recovering characteristic of bitcoin. People who are afraid of lossing money and don't invest a single penny because they imagine that through investment they can become poor always remain poor because they never become able to take benefit of investment choices.

Why people are not waiting and quickly sell their Assets even they have risk? Are they not familiar about the Fluctuations or they are in doubt about their abilities to be rewarded? If they don't know the word Fluctuations then investment is not for them. they should accept another way because for victory you have to acknowledge volatility and should go according to it.









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