Decoupling message IDs from topic IDs (SMF patch)

[PowerGlove]

This is something I've been working on since chatting with @TryNinja and @LoyceV about how they repair holes in their post archives after an outage. The way SMF combines topic IDs with message IDs makes it very awkward for scrapers to fill in gaps, because even though they know what ranges of message IDs they're missing, they often don't know what the corresponding topic IDs are.

Normally, the link format for a given (anchored) message, looks like this: /index.php?topic={topic_id}.msg{message_id}#msg{message_id}

This patch changes SMF so that it will also accept an asterisk [1] as the topic ID: /index.php?topic=*.msg{message_id}#msg{message_id}

Here's the diff for @theymos:

Code:

--- baseline/Sources/QueryString.php	2011-02-07 16:45:09.000000000 +0000
+++ modified/Sources/QueryString.php	2023-08-23 12:36:25.000000000 +0000
@@ -65,41 +65,41 @@
 		- makes sure a string only contains character which are allowed in
 		  XML/XHTML (not 0-8, 11, 12, and 14-31.)
 		- tries to handle UTF-8 properly, and shouldn't negatively affect
 		  character sets like ISO-8859-1.
 		- does not effect keys, only changes values.
 		- may call itself recursively if necessary.
 
 	string ob_sessrewrite(string buffer)
 		- rewrites the URLs outputted to have the session ID, if the user
 		  is not accepting cookies and is using a standard web browser.
 		- handles rewriting URLs for the queryless URLs option.
 		- can be turned off entirely by setting $scripturl to an empty
 		  string, ''. (it wouldn't work well like that anyway.)
 		- because of bugs in certain builds of PHP, does not function in
 		  versions lower than 4.3.0 - please upgrade if this hurts you.
 */
 
 // Clean the request variables - add html entities to GET and slashes if magic_quotes_gpc is Off.
 function cleanRequest()
 {
-	global $board, $topic, $boardurl, $scripturl, $modSettings;
+	global $board, $topic, $boardurl, $scripturl, $modSettings, $db_prefix;
 
 	// Makes it easier to refer to things this way.
 	$scripturl = $boardurl . '/index.php';
 
 	// Save some memory.. (since we don't use these anyway.)
 	unset($GLOBALS['HTTP_POST_VARS'], $GLOBALS['HTTP_POST_VARS']);
 	unset($GLOBALS['HTTP_POST_FILES'], $GLOBALS['HTTP_POST_FILES']);
 
 	// These keys shouldn't be set...ever.
 	if (isset($_REQUEST['GLOBALS']) || isset($_COOKIE['GLOBALS']))
 		die('Invalid request variable.');
 
 	// Same goes for numeric keys.
 	foreach (array_merge(array_keys($_POST), array_keys($_GET), array_keys($_FILES)) as $key)
 		if (is_numeric($key))
 			die('Invalid request variable.');
 
 	// Numeric keys in cookies are less of a problem. Just unset those.
 	foreach ($_COOKIE as $key => $value)
 		if (is_numeric($key))
@@ -214,40 +214,49 @@
 	else
 		$board = 0;
 
 	// If there's a threadid, it's probably an old YaBB SE link.  Flow with it.
 	if (isset($_REQUEST['threadid']) && !isset($_REQUEST['topic']))
 		$_REQUEST['topic'] = $_REQUEST['threadid'];
 
 	// We've got topic!
 	if (isset($_REQUEST['topic']))
 	{
 		// Make sure that its a string and not something else like an array
 		$_REQUEST['topic'] = (string)$_REQUEST['topic'];
 		
 		// Slash means old, beta style, formatting.  That's okay though, the link should still work.
 		if (strpos($_REQUEST['topic'], '/') !== false)
 			list ($_REQUEST['topic'], $_REQUEST['start']) = explode('/', $_REQUEST['topic']);
 		// Dots are useful and fun ;).  This is ?topic=1.15.
 		elseif (strpos($_REQUEST['topic'], '.') !== false)
 			list ($_REQUEST['topic'], $_REQUEST['start']) = explode('.', $_REQUEST['topic']);
 
+		// If a message ID was given with a topic ID of '*', then search for (and use) the correct topic ID.
+		if($_REQUEST['topic'] == '*' && !empty($_REQUEST['start']) && substr($_REQUEST['start'], 0, 3) == 'msg')
+		{
+			$result = db_query('SELECT ID_TOPIC FROM ' . $db_prefix . 'messages WHERE ID_MSG = ' . (int)substr($_REQUEST['start'], 3), __FILE__, __LINE__);
+			$row = mysql_fetch_row($result);
+			mysql_free_result($result);
+			$_REQUEST['topic'] = !empty($row) ? (int)$row[0] : -1;
+		}
+
 		$topic = (int) $_REQUEST['topic'];
 
 		// Now make sure the online log gets the right number.
 		$_GET['topic'] = $topic;
 	}
 	else
 		$topic = 0;
 
 	// There should be a $_REQUEST['start'], some at least.  If you need to default to other than 0, use $_GET['start'].
 	if (empty($_REQUEST['start']) || $_REQUEST['start'] < 0 || (int) $_REQUEST['start'] > 2147473647)
 		$_REQUEST['start'] = 0;
 
 	// The action needs to be a string and not an array or anything else	
 	if (isset($_REQUEST['action']))
 		$_REQUEST['action'] = (string) $_REQUEST['action'];
 	if (isset($_GET['action']))
 		$_GET['action'] = (string) $_GET['action'];
 
 	// Store the REMOTE_ADDR for later - even though we HOPE to never use it...
 	$_SERVER['BAN_CHECK_IP'] = isset($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']) && preg_match('~^((([1]?\d)?\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(([1]?\d)?\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])$~', $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']) === 1 ? $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] : 'unknown';

(I made a previous attempt at this, based on HTTP redirects that would've meant a maximum of 30 requests per minute because of the rate-limiter. I'm hoping that this new redirection-free attempt meets with theymos' approval and ends up simplifying LoyceV's and TryNinja's scrapers and making them more reliable.)

[1] An asterisk (*) makes sense to me, and is safe to use according to my reading of RFC 3986, but zero (0) and underscore (_) both make sense too, I guess. (It's easy for theymos to adjust.)

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[Upgrade00]

I'm not exactly certain what the patch does even after reading the thread twice and don't know the problem it is trying to solve, but if it helps make the work of TryNinja and LoyceV easier then I am all down for it.

Good job yet again PowerGlove.

[TryNinja]

This would make a huge difference for current and future features on multiple projects of mine, thank you for coding it, @PowerGlove.

Please, theymos…

I'm not exactly certain what the patch does even after reading the thread twice
Good job yet again PowerGlove.

Sometimes my archive is missing a post of id XXXX and I can’t scrape it because I have no idea on which topic the post is. With this change, I can find it without knowing the topic id.

[LoyceV]

I guess an asterisk was easier to patch than isolating just one post? It does mean the server has to look up (up to) 20 posts for each request, but I guess that's tiny compared to the rest of the page loads.
One question: will the resulting page also show the topicID somewhere? If so, I can work with this and add the (couple of thousand) missing posts to my archive. Thanks for writing this!

Please, theymos…

^What he says^

[PowerGlove]

Good job yet again PowerGlove.

Thanks, man.

This would make a huge difference for current and future features on multiple projects of mine, thank you for coding it, @PowerGlove.

No problem, it's cool to hear that it'll make a difference to your projects. I enjoy messing around with SMF, but it means a lot to me when my stuff ends up making a positive difference (of course, I'm at the mercy of theymos' preferences and schedule, but I think there's a pretty good chance that this one will get merged).

I guess an asterisk was easier to patch than isolating just one post?

Yup, this patch is basically just one if statement with a 4-line body, placed in just the right spot. I could make it more complicated and isolate a single post, but I don't think that's worth the complication.

When this feature is being used for its intended purpose (helping scrapers to fill in gaps in their archives, and gracefully recover from DDoS attacks, etc.), I don't think efficiency is a major factor; like you said, you only have a few thousand posts missing from your archive.

Interestingly, if you misuse this feature, and try to build a complete scraper from it, then it returning multiple posts per request actually helps efficiency. What you would do is start from post 1 (/index.php?topic=*.msg1) and then parse all the posts that come back (if any), being careful to (conceptually) knock their message IDs off the list before advancing to the next post. In practice, that'll probably amount to keeping track of already-visited messages with some kind of data structure that allows for doing lookups in sublinear time (like a map, or a set).

One question: will the resulting page also show the topicID somewhere?

Yup, the asterisk is (mostly) transparent to the rest of SMF, so the page will render just as if you had supplied the correct topic ID.

[LoyceV]

Interestingly, if you misuse this feature, and try to build a complete scraper from it, then it returning multiple posts per request actually helps efficiency. What you would do is start from post 1 (/index.php?topic=*.msg1) and then parse all the posts that come back (if any), being careful to (conceptually) knock their message IDs off the list before advancing to the next post. In practice, that'll probably amount to keeping track of already-visited messages with some kind of data structure that allows for doing lookups in sublinear time (like a map, or a set).

Been there, done that But it make much more sense to use topicIDs instead of msgIDs to scrape everything.

[theymos]

Added, thanks!

It would be better if message-links didn't have the topic in them, but I'm worried that changing the links in [quote]s etc. would break something, so this will only be used by people in-the-know about it, not in any forum-generated HTML.

(I've also been meaning to write a very simple API which would allow bots to function more efficiently in general, but I haven't gotten to it yet.)

[LoyceV]

Added, thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=*.msg62772227#msg62772227
It works! Thank you and OP so much!

[joker_josue]

Congratulations PowerGlove for another useful and quickly implemented patch.
Personally, I don't even know how to thank you.


Without a doubt, it is a patch that will be very useful for those who like to collect information on the forum.
Happy scraping to everyone who likes to do them.


By the way, just one question ^{(which I almost certainly have the answer to, but to confirm)}, the numbering of the posts is sequential, correct?

[LoyceV]

the numbering of the posts is sequential, correct?

Yes. Although some posts are made on non-public forums.

While we're at the subject of forum patches (and I don't think this deserves another topic), there's one thing I'd like to see: "scrollable quotes"! I'm thinking of posts like this:

Code:

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[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dogecoin]Dogecoin Price[/url] (1421.70661662 DOGE): $90.66 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/aleph-zero]Aleph Zero Price[/url] (483.16939798 AZERO): $380.95 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum]Ethereum Price[/url] (0.08356942 ETH): $137.51 

[b]28. Trofo: $892.46[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/masq]MASQ Price[/url] (1561.24124924 MASQ): $304.91 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/algorand]Algorand Price[/url] (1444.92801369 ALGO): $135.18 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/quant]Quant Price[/url] (2.36630383 QNT): $235.92 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/curve-dao-token]Curve DAO Price[/url] (476.30569681 CRV): $216.44 

[b]29. Betwrong: $890.22[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb]BNB Price[/url] (1.70274872 BNB): $368.70 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/iota]IOTA Price[/url] (1183.69810963 MIOTA): $184.79 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/xrp]XRP Price[/url] (529.27788853 XRP): $270.55 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/edgeware]Edgeware Price[/url] (491799.24754715 EDG): $66.19 

[b]30. NeuroticFish: $889.89[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb]BNB Price[/url] (1.70274872 BNB): $368.70 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero]Monero Price[/url] (2.85074323 XMR): $407.80 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dash]Dash Price[/url] (2.61220613 DASH): $68.00 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/golem]Golem Price[/url] (277.56035550 GLM): $45.40 

[b]31. Becassine: $880.45[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb]BNB Price[/url] (0.97299927 BNB): $210.68 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/enjin-coin]Enjin Coin Price[/url] (455.04751110 ENJ): $106.56 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/polygon]Polygon Price[/url] (645.42897976 MATIC): $354.33 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/safepal]SafePal Price[/url] (405.34960136 SFP): $208.88 

[b]32. internetional: $873.59[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bilira]BiLira Price[/url] (7646.28295070 TRYB): $283.50 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/pax-gold]PAX Gold Price[/url] (0.27425061 PAXG): $525.96 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zcash]Zcash Price[/url] (1.34084205 ZEC): $33.23 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dash]Dash Price[/url] (1.18736642 DASH): $30.91 

[b]33. DireWolfM14: $871.21[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero]Monero Price[/url] (2.71499355 XMR): $388.30 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dogecoin]Dogecoin Price[/url] (4265.11984987 DOGE): $272.81 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/binance-usd]Binance USD Price[/url] (149.85014985 BUSD): $150.00 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/grin]Grin Price[/url] (2035.05725294 GRIN): $60.11 

[b]34. entebah: $867.54[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dash]Dash Price[/url] (3.56209926 DASH): $92.72 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/cardano]Cardano Price[/url] (1014.61862515 ADA): $258.97 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/horizen]Horizen Price[/url] (21.73913043 ZEN): $164.57 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb]BNB Price[/url] (1.62166545 BNB): $351.29 

[b]35. Koal-84: $839.46[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/cardano]Cardano Price[/url] (1217.54235018 ADA): $310.80 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/pirate-chain]Pirate Chain Price[/url] (636.01296194 ARRR): $126.50 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/sundaeswap]SundaeSwap Price[/url] (20800.46859296 SUNDAE): $163.80 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/tezos]Tezos Price[/url] (347.05207030 XTZ): $238.36 

[b]36. Royse777: $808.24[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/kucoin-shares]KuCoin Price[/url] (61.63328197 KCS): $253.93 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bnb]BNB Price[/url] (1.21624909 BNB): $263.35 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/cardano]Cardano Price[/url] (1014.61862515 ADA): $259.08 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/1inch]1inch Price[/url] (130.17612830 1INCH): $31.87 

[b]37. tokeweed: $802.15[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dogecoin]Dogecoin Price[/url] (3554.26654156 DOGE): $227.34 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/shiba-inu]Shiba Inu Price[/url] (24691358.02469140 SHIB): $197.04 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum]Ethereum Price[/url] (0.04178471 ETH): $68.76 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dogechain]Dogechain Price[/url] (524120.00251578 DC): $309.02 

[b]38. n0nce: $787.69[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero]Monero Price[/url] (3.05436775 XMR): $436.71 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/grin]Grin Price[/url] (3391.76208824 GRIN): $100.05 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum-classic]Ethereum Classic Price[/url] (12.72264631 ETC): $197.07 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/algorand]Algorand Price[/url] (577.97120547 ALGO): $53.85 

[b]39. elma: $775.92[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/near]NEAR Protocol Price[/url] (198.41269841 NEAR): $230.16 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/gigaswap]GigaSwap Price[/url] (4377517.07231658 GIGA): $49.20 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/internet-computer]Internet Computer Price[/url] (63.61323155 ICP): $212.47 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/waves]Waves Price[/url] (189.39393939 WAVES): $284.09 

[b]40. julerz12: $690.43[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/cosmos-hub]Cosmos Hub Price[/url] (48.12834225 ATOM): $333.05 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/gnosis]Gnosis Price[/url] (2.99796139 GNO): $303.00 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/evmos]Evmos Price[/url] (696.74515501 EVMOS): $41.52 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/juno-network]JUNO Price[/url] (89.28571429 JUNO): $12.86 

[b]41. 3meek: $663.72[/b]
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/polkadot]Polkadot Price[/url] (58.00464037 DOT): $247.68 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zcash]Zcash Price[/url] (6.70421024 ZEC): $166.00 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/shiden-network]Shiden Network Price[/url] (749.28817623 SDN): $185.73 
[url=https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/beam]BEAM Price[/url] (2347.48396668 BEAM): $64.32 

Ratimov used code-tags to limit the size of the data, but it would be much better if the BBCode would still be processed. Currently it's not possible to add a scroll bar to a quote.

[joker_josue]

Ratimov used code-tags to limit the size of the data, but it would be much better if the BBCode would still be processed. Currently it's not possible to add a scroll bar to a quote.

The idea would be, when the person makes a quote, the forum will give a maximum line limit, then generating a scroll if there are more lines than this limit. And that?

It's really not a bad idea, taking into account that some users don't use qoutes correctly and then we have huge texts, when 3 or 4 quoted lines would be enough.

[LoyceV]

The idea would be, when the person makes a quote, the forum will give a maximum line limit, then generating a scroll if there are more lines than this limit.

I was thinking of a manual option, like code-tags, but automating to all posts is even better.