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August 24, 2023, 11:27:08 AM
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How much would it cost to most ALL internet with your casino advertisement? I mean just for one day?!

It is common to think that there is quite not much places to advertise your casino nowadays, right? Me and my team have found all accesible places to post your advertisement, and it is:

  • 3718 Gambling/iGaming Telegram Channels;
  • 1007 Gambling/iGaming Discord Servers;
  • 98 Gambling/iGaming Forums;
  • 329 Gaming & iGaming Marketing Agencies;
  • 819 Gambling/iGaming Media Outlets;
  • 1315 Gambling/iGaming Rating Websites;
  • 2461 Gambling/iGaming Instagram Accounts;
  • 1666 iGaming-related Facebook Accounts (1097 groups, 569 personal accounts);
  • 126 Gambling/iGaming Reddit Communities (with optimal posting times);
  • 2718 Gambling/iGaming YouTube Channels (with contact details);
  • 2505 Gambling/iGaming Twitch Channels;
  • 977 Gambling/iGaming TikTok Accounts;
  • 2152 iGaming-Related Twitter Accounts (for a comprehensive social media overview)

it is 19,562 places (actual on April 2023).

Lets try to count,

average Telegram post is ~$50, average discord post is ~$20, forum is up to $100, media outlet is $250, for rating-reviews site is about $800, instagram is up to $100, facebook is about ~$60, reddit comms is average ~$200, Youtube release is about $1000, twitch stream is about ~$500, ticktock is average $100, and twitter post is about $150... 

so if we multiply everything on everything we will get.. $6,234,850.00 per one day.

Here is my calculation to check (and also list of about 200 top websites, discords, forums, media and twitters to check): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BYc7otdNjCEUvBf8KWz72zjXDAEmVqGtSzCWPQCvKik/edit#gid=1996305011

well, not that expensive, after all Smiley

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August 24, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
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I wonder how much it would cost for partnering with streamers on Kick to promote a gambling platform. They get certain contracts from what I understand but I'm not sure if casinos or igaming are allowed to deal with them directly since Kick is basically run by the owner of Stake.

Kick is the rival of Twitch in case you didn't know. A lot of streamers migrated there when they were banned on Twitch.

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August 24, 2023, 02:33:20 PM
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For the initial stage, casinos do not need to immediately promote their casinos in many places. New casinos or old casinos can use this forum to promote and provide more information about the casino. Only after getting many visitors and gamblers can the casino try using other promotional media such as Discord, Twitter, Facebook and others. But everything will adjust to the budget owned by the casino and the casino will only spend a little of its budget and it is better to focus on one or several media first.

But if a casino owner has a huge budget and wants to make his casino even bigger instantly, he will use more media to promote because that way, he can get more visitors. But casino owners should know that developing a casino website takes a long time and should keep promoting it so that more people will know about the casino.

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August 24, 2023, 02:50:22 PM
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19,562 places/accounts if I get that correctly! That’s a lot of places and a lot of accounts in between.
So long as it’s a team effort, it could work but, am not sure it’s ideal given that most of the promotions that could arise from this sort of large organization would be spam based and that ain’t some means to promote a good project. Not saying it would be but actually say, it could be the case.

While, the $6,234,850.00 per day might not seem like a lot to you at OP, I think you should recall that, that would be per day and your talking about six million, two hundred and thirty four thousand, eight hundred and fifty dollar if am to spell it out for you to make sense. That’s a whole lot of money for just a day’s promotion whose result is under probability.

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August 24, 2023, 02:50:52 PM
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For the initial stage, casinos do not need to immediately promote their casinos in many places. New casinos or old casinos can use this forum to promote and provide more information about the casino. Only after getting many visitors and gamblers can the casino try using other promotional media such as Discord, Twitter, Facebook and others. But everything will adjust to the budget owned by the casino and the casino will only spend a little of its budget and it is better to focus on one or several media first.

But if a casino owner has a huge budget and wants to make his casino even bigger instantly, he will use more media to promote because that way, he can get more visitors. But casino owners should know that developing a casino website takes a long time and should keep promoting it so that more people will know about the casino.

This forum is the best place for the casinos that want to get some good users on their site. Especially for those casinos that are new in business and want to get the attention of the gamblers of the crypto-world. Most of the casinos only market on this forum because they know that a lot of gamblers will find their site with the help of this forum, and marketing on this forum is not as costly as social media marketing. I agree that when a casino gets some good amount of users from this forum then they may search for other areas to promote their site and thus they start spending money on social media marketing.


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August 24, 2023, 02:56:30 PM
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For the initial stage, casinos do not need to immediately promote their casinos in many places. New casinos or old casinos can use this forum to promote and provide more information about the casino. Only after getting many visitors and gamblers can the casino try using other promotional media such as Discord, Twitter, Facebook and others. But everything will adjust to the budget owned by the casino and the casino will only spend a little of its budget and it is better to focus on one or several media first.

But if a casino owner has a huge budget and wants to make his casino even bigger instantly, he will use more media to promote because that way, he can get more visitors. But casino owners should know that developing a casino website takes a long time and should keep promoting it so that more people will know about the casino.

Trafic brokers that allow gambling-related sites are not very well known, however. Bitcoin adnetwork are not very familiar to the masses which is not gonna get clicks and will be a total waste of time for its going to end up in a click exchange network.

OP does offer a good platform but they still are to be proven. If he could just give a discount or free test of his service, he might just prove his network to be worth the price for a new casino.

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Casinos are better off with affiliate marketing and partnerships and dedicated forums for gamblers like this section here in Bitcointalk, They are proven to convert, and casinos will not waste money on places that do not convert, It has been proven that affiliate marketing can bring in gamblers, it's been proven and tested those links in your spreadsheets are goods places to promote but they prefer to give more attention to influencers and proven platforms that has a good flow of traffic.

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I wonder how much it would cost for partnering with streamers on Kick to promote a gambling platform. They get certain contracts from what I understand but I'm not sure if casinos or igaming are allowed to deal with them directly since Kick is basically run by the owner of Stake.

Kick is the rival of Twitch in case you didn't know. A lot of streamers migrated there when they were banned on Twitch.
If streamers migrated to Kick when Twitch banned gambling promotion then it is highly unlikely they will restrict if they start promoting other gambling based content other than Stake. The reason some of the streamers jumped ship is because of the revenue sharing model and minimal moderation of content, there are some glitches in the app and once it is sorted it will be great.

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so if we multiply everything on everything we will get.. $6,234,850.00 per one day.
The question you need to ask is, whether these casino's are spending money advertising to individual users and influencers. Some of the big casino's are sponsoring major sporting events and they might promote their casino with influencers who are genuine gamblers and they might have a separate affiliate deal rather than shelling out money on a daily basis Wink.
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so if we multiply everything on everything we will get.. $6,234,850.00 per one day.
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The question you need to ask is, whether these casino's are spending money advertising to individual users and influencers. Some of the big casino's are sponsoring major sporting events and they might promote their casino with influencers who are genuine gamblers and they might have a separate affiliate deal rather than shelling out money on a daily basis Wink.

When it comes to casino advertising it is always on places where gamblers show up, and read updates You don't need thousands of groups or platforms

If a new casino launches it only needs influencers an announcement thread here, a signature campaign, and a good affiliate system to generate leads and from there maintain its reputation, You don't need $6.2 million daily the initial campaign will only cost a few thousand dollars and building a reputation is equal to million dollars.
I doubt if even the top casinos spend $6 million for their marketing campaign.

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August 24, 2023, 03:55:32 PM
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well, not that expensive, after all Smiley

If $6.2 million per day is not expensive then you must be earning a handsome salary.
Besides that, you have forgot to add marketing agencies cost and so the actual figure would be more than this.
Also, there can be n number of ways for advertisement. The possibilities are endless and we just have to be as creative as we can.
So the amount we spend on advertisement can never be calculated because it all depends on one's creative thinking.

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I believe that promoting in social media is cheap enough if you choose the cheap but effective path. Recently I saw a facebook profile that showcase plinko gameplays on shorts but when I viewed the profile, the short they post show some real streamers that has big followers that is playing that casino and one example of that is ishowspeed. I googled and found out that those streamers I saw never really do gamble or stream it, that certain facebook profile who show plinko highlight are editing their shorts. The likes reached thousands of likes and hundred of comments. They trick their viewers but the result show how effective it is.
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I wonder how much it would cost for partnering with streamers on Kick to promote a gambling platform. They get certain contracts from what I understand but I'm not sure if casinos or igaming are allowed to deal with them directly since Kick is basically run by the owner of Stake.

Kick is the rival of Twitch in case you didn't know. A lot of streamers migrated there when they were banned on Twitch.

It probably depends on the streamer. I’m sure people with below 10 viewers would probably promote whatever you wanted them to for the cost of a $5 subscription. Im not sure you’d get much with your advertisement though. The big boys with thousands of viewers would probably charge you 5 figures just for a shoutout…

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so if we multiply everything on everything we will get.. $6,234,850.00 per one day.
That seems a lot of money, but not too much to say the truth, when we compare to the total sum of money 'Procter & Gamble' spent in advertisement during an one year time period, totalizing 8.1$ billion dollars. That is just one company spending more than every iGaming/gambling services you mentioned.

Leading advertisers worldwide in 2021, by ad spending

Now imagine how much income these companies must make to give themselves the right to invest so many billions of dollars in marketing. Our daily financial reality is so distant from the world big techs' entrepreneurs one, that even their average numbers are already enough to surprise us, while the top numbers are so high, that most of us don't have any representation of that in our minds. It's like they didn't exist in our universe...

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Hiring influencers os not the primary targets of casinos most especially the new casinos,  because there are other means through which a casino can achieve a great success without necessarily needing to hires a social media influences since their charges may be much some times,  although it depends on the influencer in question that will determine how much you will pay them for their services.

But then only the big casinos could mostly afford to pay the big influencers since they charge exorbitant amounts as their subscription fees, The amount changes to are based on the views,  likes and followers number of the influencers.
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This forum is the best place for the casinos that want to get some good users on their site. Especially for those casinos that are new in business and want to get the attention of the gamblers of the crypto-world. Most of the casinos only market on this forum because they know that a lot of gamblers will find their site with the help of this forum, and marketing on this forum is not as costly as social media marketing. I agree that when a casino gets some good amount of users from this forum then they may search for other areas to promote their site and thus they start spending money on social media marketing.
That is why it is highly recommended for new casinos to try promoting in this forum. Apart from promoting, the new casinos will also get more useful input and suggestions for their casinos, improving the quality of their casinos and providing maximum service to their users. The reviews from the members here can let the casino know what still needs to be improved and reduced so that the casino can develop even more in the future.

Apart from that, casinos can also use social media such as Twitter to share various kinds of promotions. This is enough to do as an initial stage and to see how big the response is from members and other people who become their followers. If the results are as expected by the casino, the casino can try out promotions through other methods that can also provide additional members. Casinos can use all the ways suggested but they have to use it step by step and only some at a time because casinos also need to adjust their budget.

Trafic brokers that allow gambling-related sites are not very well known, however. Bitcoin adnetwork are not very familiar to the masses which is not gonna get clicks and will be a total waste of time for its going to end up in a click exchange network.

OP does offer a good platform but they still are to be proven. If he could just give a discount or free test of his service, he might just prove his network to be worth the price for a new casino.
It's better for him to give a discount on his services because the platform is still new and not many know about it. By giving discounts to potential customers, they can get reviews about their services to get other potential customers who want to use the platform.

The important thing is that he can provide what the prospect needs and do everything well. If a customer is satisfied with his service, that customer will tell his friends, providing an opportunity for him to get more potential customers. Thus, the business can grow well and be large, with many customers using its services.

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About the deal-contract between famous streamers for (Kicks), If you are famous + a lot of followers. Then, a hundred million dollars could be for the deal with a few years. It's really a lot money, that's why most of streamer try to migrated on Kicks.

Until, they're close ~XD

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Here is my calculation to check (and also list of about 200 top websites, discords, forums, media and twitters to check): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BYc7otdNjCEUvBf8KWz72zjXDAEmVqGtSzCWPQCvKik/edit#gid=1996305011

well, not that expensive, after all Smiley

I'd like to ask OP did you compiled all these groups or if you just downloaded them from other sources, It's not easy to compile all these links it will take you several days to over a week It's indeed a comprehensive link.
Have you promoted casinos from these groups and platforms how's the result of your promotion and how did you come out with a specific amount?

I still maintain that influencers, Bitcointalk, and review sites are the best platforms for casinos to launch their marketing, they can add more coming from this spreadsheet if casinos want to add more

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August 25, 2023, 11:00:58 AM
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Am not saying maybe there are not reliable platforms or social media that can help in promoting a brand or organizations especially the gambling section, but we also need to have serious consideration in using any of these social networks OP mentioned because scammers are more predominant on them and this cause their reliability and trust to be far fetched for, also some make use of this forum community to launch their gambling platform campaign in making awareness of their sites knowing well how reputable standard is the community.



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How much would it cost to most ALL internet with your casino advertisement? I mean just for one day?!

It is common to think that there is quite not much places to advertise your casino nowadays, right? Me and my team have found all accesible places to post your advertisement, and it is:

  • 3718 Gambling/iGaming Telegram Channels;
  • 1007 Gambling/iGaming Discord Servers;
  • 98 Gambling/iGaming Forums;
  • 329 Gaming & iGaming Marketing Agencies;
  • 819 Gambling/iGaming Media Outlets;
  • 1315 Gambling/iGaming Rating Websites;
  • 2461 Gambling/iGaming Instagram Accounts;
  • 1666 iGaming-related Facebook Accounts (1097 groups, 569 personal accounts);
  • 126 Gambling/iGaming Reddit Communities (with optimal posting times);
  • 2718 Gambling/iGaming YouTube Channels (with contact details);
  • 2505 Gambling/iGaming Twitch Channels;
  • 977 Gambling/iGaming TikTok Accounts;
  • 2152 iGaming-Related Twitter Accounts (for a comprehensive social media overview)

it is 19,562 places (actual on April 2023).

Lets try to count,

average Telegram post is ~$50, average discord post is ~$20, forum is up to $100, media outlet is $250, for rating-reviews site is about $800, instagram is up to $100, facebook is about ~$60, reddit comms is average ~$200, Youtube release is about $1000, twitch stream is about ~$500, ticktock is average $100, and twitter post is about $150... 

so if we multiply everything on everything we will get.. $6,234,850.00 per one day.

Here is my calculation to check (and also list of about 200 top websites, discords, forums, media and twitters to check): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BYc7otdNjCEUvBf8KWz72zjXDAEmVqGtSzCWPQCvKik/edit#gid=1996305011

well, not that expensive, after all Smiley

Interesting calculation! It makes me wonder how effective a 6 million dollar marketing campaign can become when talking about return on advertising investment. Although I am not sure on how correct youlr data is or where you got it from. I cannot imagine rating reviews to be worth 800 USD unless the rating person is someone really famous or something. How much of a reach do you expect with all these marketing campaigns?

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