Blackrock invest in ukraine

[DrBeer]

Honestly you could also do it yourself as well if I am not wrong. Depending on the laws of course, I do not think that there should be anything that blocks you from buying a land there, or a building, and just make a profit. We are not as rich as Blackrock of course, hell Ukraine is not as rich as Blackrock, the whole nation, wasn't richer even before the war.

So, I think it should be important to remember that Blackrock will not do anything you can't do, they will just do what you can do but with a lot more money. And to be fair there is so much money to be made there, if Russia war ends, there will be a lot of devastated places, you could buy them, clean up the rubbles, build a big building, and just make a profit.

Blackrock is a global investment corporation. And all of its projects are long-term, with calculated risk levels. Yes, you partially correctly pointed out what they will invest in Ukraine, after the terrorist country attacks Ukraine, and after the terrorist country loses.
I didn't just say the last words - losing to a terrorist country. The fact is that infrastructure projects, where Blackrock will enter with their money, require many years (10+) to build it all up, start working and make a profit to return to investors. This means that Blackrock assumes that Russia will be lowered to a level where it will not be able to pose a threat to Ukraine or anyone else for the next 20-30 years. Otherwise - almost 100% high risk of losing many tens of billions of Blackrock's investment!
And here the bet on "high-risk investments" will not work, where there is a chance to return your investment with "x10" profit in a short time.  This is exclusively long-term investments

[serveria.com]

The people of Russia would not have forgiven him for this, and he would have been overthrown. By continuing the war, Putin is simply delaying the collapse of his power.

I don't see any scenario where Putin could be overthrown. Russia can't lose this war. I'm being pretty objective: Russia has more people, bigger army, great military industry and last but not least: a shitload of nukes. Worst scenario for Russia would be freezing the war right now. Ukraine has already showed they're unable to attack further, their "counter-offensive" has failed miserably. Western allies are getting ready for negotiations, probably going to hand Crimea and Donetsk/Luhansk region to the Russians.

But by now, the mined area has practically been passed, the southern front of the Russians is bursting at the seams in many places, and the last reserves have been thrown into battle by the Russians. If the front is broken and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the south reach the Sea of Azov (which is less than a hundred kilometers), it will become obvious that Russia has lost this war. Then the entire pro-island of Crimea will be under the fire control of the Ukrainians and the Russians will be trapped there.

Muahaha... you should ease on that Ukrainian propaganda!    I wonder what your sources are? And one more thing: I doubt it that most people who live in Crimea and Donbas want to be liberated by Ukraine. 

[STT]

Its typical to invest in a situation like this, not a pretty phrase buy when blood is on the streets is well known.   I dont believe Ukraine does respond well after the war even if it can be ended and peace achieved, its still a negative. Obviously damage must be cleared, repaired, people are dead and the country is damaged so dont tell me this is the ideal investment scenario.   However when we include prospects vs price the fear peaks and the whole cycle of investment then sure, years after the initial point of entry being close to any decline in the war is likely closely timed but theres no positive to war.
  Nobody wins wars imo, certainly not the common people and destruction is not profitable all we can say it clears the oppression that might have existed otherwise and people do not want to waste the sacrifice of those who died.

[benalexis12]

You mean that because of the plan to make Blackrock invest in Ukraine, the war will stop because of this step? It's not that easy to just say that. Only time will tell if this amount of investment by Blackrock will stop the war in Ukraine. Although Blackrock's decision to invest in Ukraine is a demonstration that it trusts and is confident in this country that they will benefit from it in the future, they will do it. This is the only thing I see at the moment.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

According to this news, BlackRock and JP Morgan are supposed to help set up a reconstruction bank aimed at steering public capital into rebuilding projects that could rake in billions of dollars.

Thank you for actually dropping a link for reference, which is something OP should have done when making a claim like he did.  Not everyone reads the same news, and some idiots like me don't read or watch any news whatsoever and are shivering in a dark corner waiting for the end to come.

If Blackrock did start investing in Ukrainian 'stuff' then it makes me think they know something the general public doesn't.  Then again, might they not have also invested in Russian 'stuff' as well and perhaps kept it out of the news?  I mean Jesus, they're the major shareholder in pretty much everything right now.

I wish this war would end even today but from the look of things this war will linger for a long time because no party is showing any genuine interest in dialogue and compromise.

Agreed, and I'm actually surprised the war has lasted this long; I thought for sure that Russia would take Ukraine in the snap of a finger (note: that's not what I ever hoped for, but based on size alone and also my ignorance of military affairs it's an assumption I made).  No doubt Ukraine has gotten a lot of help coming in through the back door, but they've availed themselves with honor in the face of a very powerful enemy.  I never understood the politics behind the war, and I've got nothing against either the people of Russia or Ukraine; Putin's responsible for this, and in the back of my mind is always the knowledge that his military has nuclear capability.  What he was thinking I couldn't tell ya, and I'm not sure most people could either.

Going way, waaay off topic for a second here, but I got these stamps as a gift and I love 'em:



Their issuance might have been a bit premature, but goddamn....can you get any bolder than that?  Does anyone know if these are still in circulation in Ukraine, i.e., being used as postage?

[Argoo]

The people of Russia would not have forgiven him for this, and he would have been overthrown. By continuing the war, Putin is simply delaying the collapse of his power.

I don't see any scenario where Putin could be overthrown. Russia can't lose this war. I'm being pretty objective: Russia has more people, bigger army, great military industry and last but not least: a shitload of nukes. Worst scenario for Russia would be freezing the war right now. Ukraine has already showed they're unable to attack further, their "counter-offensive" has failed miserably. Western allies are getting ready for negotiations, probably going to hand Crimea and Donetsk/Luhansk region to the Russians.

But by now, the mined area has practically been passed, the southern front of the Russians is bursting at the seams in many places, and the last reserves have been thrown into battle by the Russians. If the front is broken and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the south reach the Sea of Azov (which is less than a hundred kilometers), it will become obvious that Russia has lost this war. Then the entire pro-island of Crimea will be under the fire control of the Ukrainians and the Russians will be trapped there.

Muahaha... you should ease on that Ukrainian propaganda!    I wonder what your sources are? And one more thing: I doubt it that most people who live in Crimea and Donbas want to be liberated by Ukraine.  

We, I see, have different sources of information. I trust the news of my government in Ukraine, but you proceed mainly from what is presented in the official Russian news. The Ukrainian military is now showing how they are slowly but surely advancing on the southern front, in the direction of Melitopol and Berdyansk. In the Melitopol direction, on August 22, Ukrainian troops recaptured the village of Rabotino, on August 27, there were also reports of a strong advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Robotino in the direction of Novoprokopka and Verbovoye. The loss of Rabotino for the Russian occupation forces threatens the exit of the Ukrainian defense forces along the 0408 highway to break through the second line of defense.
It is in the Rabotino area that the defense of the Russians in the Zaporozhye region begins to crack the most, despite the fact that in this region there are about 100 thousand Russian soldiers, which is 3 times more than the advancing Ukrainian forces.
Source: https://politeka.net/news/412990-mozhet-porvatsya-eshche-v-odnom-meste-situaciya-na-zaporozhe-rezko-izmenilas-v-polzu-vsu

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have significantly succeeded in counter-battery combat and every day they destroy 20-30 enemy artillery systems, its RZSZ, air defense and other military equipment. Yes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving slowly, during the period of the counteroffensive since June 6, only about 200 square kilometers of territory have been liberated. But the enemy's equipment is being knocked out at a fast pace, and without it, additional waves of mobilization will not have the desired effect.

At the same time, what progress has Russia made on the Ukrainian front over the past year? Captured Bakhmut at the cost of 50 thousand lives only "Wagnerites", not counting the losses of the regular army? So now Bakhmut is practically surrounded by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and it’s even a problem for the Russians to get out of him, because he is completely under fire control from the high-altitude hills around him.

The events of the autumn months at the front will show which propaganda - Russian or Ukrainian - is more truthful.

[mindrust]

Zelensky in cahoots with BlackRock?  this is such a bad idea for the citizens because they don't know what hit them. BlackRock has never cared for anyone else apart from making huge profits. These sharks just seem like sheep in daylight, offering to render support to Ukraine in their time of war but if there's something I've come to understand about how the US operate, they aren't magnanimous; there's always a catch.
It's bad that Zelensky is gullible enough to not be aware that the US is just using subtle means to enforce their stronghold and just as @Pooya87 rightly stated, they are no good.

 According to this news, BlackRock and JP Morgan are supposed to help set up a reconstruction bank aimed at steering public capital into rebuilding projects that could rake in billions of dollars. Wow, such a sweet proposition! But why such a bad idea? His investments has been known to profit from war and conflict.

Life is all about making huge profits. The Americans know this best and that’s why the most advanced financial markets are in NY. The US army are simply muppets to the big institutions like BR, JPM etc. Another fairly big corporation, 3M, gave tinnitus to countless US army veterans because of their faulty earplugs and they did recently getaway with a $5 billion bill for the damages they caused. LoL. You just can’t win against the corporate America especially the if you are an American in America.

[Hanadawa]

That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise. It's a tactical war initiated by US by inviting Ukraine to join NATO. The sole intention of US was to gain uninterrupted access to Russian border. Ukraine is just a scapegoat.
So when BlackRock is planning their investment in Ukraine, the intention is now very clear. If the access cannot be received by war tactics, the next step is to gain access of the financial markets and gain so much dominance where US government can put pressure to have a military base in Ukraine. Well thought out plan by the only warmongers of this century.

This is how the world works. What appears on the surface is only the outer layer of the intrigue that occurs in this world. It may sound like a conspiracy theory but I personally believe that this world is driven by a few people who have complete dominance and power in the financial and military sectors.
We don't really know who owns Blackrock. Although search results on Google show various data even down to the CEO. but we never really know who owns Blackrock shares.
And regarding how the world is running, I think that since the dollar was no longer pegged to gold, the economic growth of America and its allies has increased, whereas countries such as Africa and Asia have experienced several economic crises and inflation which we continue to feel from year to year.

[Huppercase]

We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Blackrock ready to invest a lot capital in ukraine probably ukraine could be ready for huge bull run.
And off course west Will replace Putin or make Putin to go back in russia and USA come in ukraine to build their financial markets in ukraine so the wall Street Will make money and everybody knows that wall Street money making moment is holy Even putin will be killed if he Will interupt ukraine once big guys are there with their big capital.

I'm trying to grab some point with what you mean about Blackrock investing in Ukraine, what would have been the faith of Ukraine if Blackrock didn't have investments with them, I will be ashame of US if they watch and allow Russia continue to destroyed some part of Ukraine because they don't have benefits from them. Not to say much, US are having history of reputation of been a leach from other countries, this is what they do and when you need them the most, they ghost you but will come back when they see precious opportunity in your circle.

Russia will not allow that to happen, I'm not in there country and I don't know much about them or perhaps they hide the negativities from their media but I know Russia like Putin with his rascality, this why he has been forming coalition with other big guys to stay relevant.

Imagine what's the price ukraine currency once bull run start by holding ukraine currency you can become filthy rich.
And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich

Since when did bitcoin result to currency pumping? The last bullrun we had, we didn't experience dollars and euros been pumped rather they lost value in purchasing power due to increased in inflation. Blackrock impact in the market so far hasn't even yielded anything, ETF application were not successful which lord knows only when SEC is going to make another consideration.

[DrBeer]

Agreed, and I'm actually surprised the war has lasted this long; I thought for sure that Russia would take Ukraine in the snap of a finger (note: that's not what I ever hoped for, but based on size alone and also my ignorance of military affairs it's an assumption I made).  No doubt Ukraine has gotten a lot of help coming in through the back door, but they've availed themselves with honor in the face of a very powerful enemy.  I never understood the politics behind the war, and I've got nothing against either the people of Russia or Ukraine; Putin's responsible for this, and in the back of my mind is always the knowledge that his military has nuclear capability.  What he was thinking I couldn't tell ya, and I'm not sure most people could either.

And imagine how surprised they were in the Kremlin, when according to the plans of the General Staff, and according to those fairy tales that were winded on the ears of the Kremlin Fuhrer, everything was to end within a month, on the borders of Poland
By the way, let me clarify - in fact, until the beginning of summer 2022, no noticeable assistance was provided, although Ukraine asked for it very much. By the beginning of the invasion, the only thing that was given to us in more or less noticeable quantities were Javelin systems. And they really helped us well, because the solution is very effective, and there is no salvation for the "second army of the world" from them. But... that's pretty much all we've been supplied with. The first new samples of equipment I saw in our units only in the summer of 2022... So until the summer of 2022, the offensive of the Russian Federation and their partial defeat was done almost "with bare hands" by the AFU and volunteer battalions.
I have a stable assumption that the West was absolutely sure that the outcome of the war is obvious, and Ukraine was prepared for the fate of "forced sacrifice before the great army of the Russian Federation". And the response that Ukraine gave was also a shock and surprise for them. And this was the trigger for the beginning of deliveries of a wide range of weapons for the destruction of Rashism

[Kakmakr]

That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise. It's a tactical war initiated by US by inviting Ukraine to join NATO. The sole intention of US was to gain uninterrupted access to Russian border. Ukraine is just a scapegoat.

So when BlackRock is planning their investment in Ukraine, the intention is now very clear. If the access cannot be received by war tactics, the next step is to gain access of the financial markets and gain so much dominance where US government can put pressure to have a military base in Ukraine. Well thought out plan by the only warmongers of this century.

You should also not forget that the Ukraine also have the only harbor that are not frozen over in the winter, which is a huge strategical advantage for the Russian fleet, if a bigger war break out in the winter. (Some people think that was the real reason why Russia initiated this war from the start)

BlackRock are like any other predator corporation out there, they see a potential to make a profit and they pounce on it. Someone needs to help the Ukrainians build up their country... and I doubt if the Russians are going to do that. 

[DrBeer]

Going way, waaay off topic for a second here, but I got these stamps as a gift and I love 'em:



Their issuance might have been a bit premature, but goddamn....can you get any bolder than that?  Does anyone know if these are still in circulation in Ukraine, i.e., being used as postage?

I am a collector myself, including stamps

This block of stamps was issued VERY TIMELY ! This stamp depicts a beautiful story: after the next epathet of aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, a small group of Ukrainian soldiers were stationed on Zmeinniy Island, who held the defense of the island, against many times superior enemy forces. This island was daily bombed, shelled with thousands of tons of ammunition, but Ukrainian soldiers did not leave and did not surrender the island. One day, the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser Moscow, approached the island. Its captain got in touch with our soldiers and pathos stated that "this is the Russian cruiser Moscow, "the second army of the world", you have no chance", and offered to surrender. The answer was short: "This is the AFU. Russian ship - fuck you", and visually conveyed the message using the middle finger of the hand

Yes, many defenders of the island died, some were captured. But after a while, the AFU struck and drowned the cruiser Moscow with all its crew. Russia cowardly, by habit, hid the truth for a long time.
It is to this event that the stamps you have published are dedicated.

The first block of stamps looks like this:

[so98nn]

The only country that is going to benefit from this war is the country that is providing ammunitions. As discussed above US is the big player in the whole scenario. None of the European nor the Asian countries matter here. Everyone is having their own businesses underway. BlackRock is being courageous about this type of investment because they have that much financial backing and with the war getting over they will have settled based for sure.

However, I am surprised how they do know that war will be over soon? It’s a war and there is no fixed timeline for the war ever. It could go on forever also.

This is definitely smelling bad in terms of good intention behind this investment. BlackRock is right now in the stage of “Never let them know your next move” sort of situation.

[posi]

The only country that is going to benefit from this war is the country that is providing ammunitions. As discussed above US is the big player in the whole scenario. None of the European nor the Asian countries matter here. Everyone is having their own businesses underway. BlackRock is being courageous about this type of investment because they have that much financial backing and with the war getting over they will have settled based for sure.

However, I am surprised how they do know that war will be over soon? It’s a war and there is no fixed timeline for the war ever. It could go on forever also.

This is definitely smelling bad in terms of good intention behind this investment. BlackRock is right now in the stage of “Never let them know your next move” sort of situation.

I even think that the United States started this war, not as many people mistakenly believe that Russia started the war. It is easy to see who is the biggest beneficiary of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

If Blackrock was supported and encouraged by the US government to invest in Ukraine, I think they would have known exactly when the war would end. I mean all the decisions of the war are decided by the US, Ukraine is just a pawn on the chessboard. When will the war end? The United States will be the one to decide.

[Argoo]

I even think that the United States started this war, not as many people mistakenly believe that Russia started the war. It is easy to see who is the biggest beneficiary of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

It turns out interestingly: in 2014, Russia occupied the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, in February 2022, it threw all the power of its armed forces into an offensive against Ukraine in order to finally capture Ukraine, and the war, it turns out, was started by the United States. What is the basis for such nonsense? To somehow partially remove the blame for the aggression from Russia? No, Russia started the war and there is no getting away from this fact. It's just that Putin and his entourage were mistaken in the degree of resistance from Ukraine and the amount of international support this time for Ukraine. But this does not relieve Russia of all responsibility for unleashing this largest and bloodiest war since the Second World War.

[Patrol69]

The American government has been anti-Russian since the beginning and the US administration has been helping Ukraine in various ways since the beginning. The main reason for such assistance to Ukraine is to use Ukraine to worsen Russia's diplomatic relations with Ukraine. But when the war between Ukraine and Russia took place, the USA made a big profit. After Ukraine's war with Russia, Russia is trying to change the economic situation of Ukraine first. When the economic status of a country goes down, various investment institutions from that country will stop investing, and if the amount of investment in the country is low, the impact will directly go to the military sector. The blackrock investment may also be a move by the US to control Ukraine's economic system.

[DrBeer]

I even think that the United States started this war, not as many people mistakenly believe that Russia started the war. It is easy to see who is the biggest beneficiary of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

If Blackrock was supported and encouraged by the US government to invest in Ukraine, I think they would have known exactly when the war would end. I mean all the decisions of the war are decided by the US, Ukraine is just a pawn on the chessboard. When will the war end? The United States will be the one to decide.

I certainly support the idea that any ideas have a right to life. But in this case, when they talk about global crime, genocide of the people of Ukraine, terrorism, looting, I would like to hear your ARGUMENTS in favor of YOUR theory ? It is especially interesting for me, a citizen of Ukraine, to hear it, who has seen the Russian terror against Ukraine since 2014....
Please explain and argue your thought ?

[Argoo]

The American government has been anti-Russian since the beginning and the US administration has been helping Ukraine in various ways since the beginning. The main reason for such assistance to Ukraine is to use Ukraine to worsen Russia's diplomatic relations with Ukraine. But when the war between Ukraine and Russia took place, the USA made a big profit. After Ukraine's war with Russia, Russia is trying to change the economic situation of Ukraine first. When the economic status of a country goes down, various investment institutions from that country will stop investing, and if the amount of investment in the country is low, the impact will directly go to the military sector. The blackrock investment may also be a move by the US to control Ukraine's economic system.

You describe events incorrectly and place accents incorrectly, so the conclusions about the negative participation of the United States in the Russian war against Ukraine are absolutely wrong. I see that in your understanding, white and fluffy Russia is undeservedly attacked by the United States and that the United States is trying to worsen the attitude of other states towards Russia as much as possible. But what about Russia, which from the very beginning after the collapse of the USSR has been consistently pursuing an aggressive policy towards its neighbors, forming pro-Russian puppet regimes on their territory, which are constant hotbeds of military conflicts? So it was in Moldova with the formation of the pro-Russian Transnistrian Republic, during the attack on Georgia in 2008 with the formation of the pro-Russian South Ossetia, during the attack on Ukraine in 2014 with the formation of the pro-Russian DPR and LPR on its territory. You describe the opening of Russia's military attack on Ukraine as "there was a war", as if it were some kind of natural disaster, and not a pre-planned attack on another state with the aim of capturing it. Already on the first day of such an attack in February 2022, the Office of the President of Ukraine received calls from the Kremlin with a proposal to sign a surrender. How else should the international community react in relation to the aggressive actions of Russia, which brazenly and cynically began to ignore all possible international norms and show that it relies exclusively on military force in relation to other states? Maybe the United States should have helped Russia's aggression so that you don't reproach it now?

Civilized states have long decided who in the current war on the territory of Ukraine is the aggressor and who is the victim of the attack. Yes, the military industry of the US and NATO member countries is now at full capacity and will have big profits because Russia's aggressive military actions have spurred the arms race. In addition, Russian weapons in this war showed very low efficiency, while NATO weapons supplied to Ukraine, on the contrary, showed high efficiency. Therefore, military orders are now sent to the defense enterprises of the NATO countries, and above all the United States. After all, now the Kremlin also continues to threaten war with the Baltic countries, Poland, and Germany. Russia deserves the current negative attitude towards itself, as it continues to attack the peaceful cities of Ukraine every day and sow death and devastation.

[DrBeer]

The American government has been anti-Russian since the beginning and the US administration has been helping Ukraine in various ways since the beginning. The main reason for such assistance to Ukraine is to use Ukraine to worsen Russia's diplomatic relations with Ukraine. But when the war between Ukraine and Russia took place, the USA made a big profit. After Ukraine's war with Russia, Russia is trying to change the economic situation of Ukraine first. When the economic status of a country goes down, various investment institutions from that country will stop investing, and if the amount of investment in the country is low, the impact will directly go to the military sector. The blackrock investment may also be a move by the US to control Ukraine's economic system.

Let's say you're right

Please - cite facts, actions, names and events that in your opinion are so - anti-Russian ? That is, events that took place-- O !
Let's take two periods:
1 - from the collapse of the USSR, until the year 2000, and
2 - since 2000
Why these periods? And I will explain to you later, but first I would like to hear you, with your data ? Who, when, what events in these periods were pure "US anti-Russian policy" ?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And imagine how surprised they were in the Kremlin<snip>

Thank you for that info!  I don't watch the news, and even if I did I don't trust the media, and I don't know anyone from Ukraine (or Russia for that matter).  I'm glad this forum is global so people like me can read what members thousands of miles away have to say about what they're going through and what their version of events is.

The first block of stamps looks like this:

Oh wow, what exactly do I have on my hands, a second printing?  I got it as a gift from someone who bought it on eBay, but I'm pretty sure it was sent straight from Ukraine.  I also got that gray-colored card.  PM me if you can, as this isn't the right place to be chatting about stamps.