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August 26, 2023, 01:17:30 PM
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There goes the American dominance as aid to the war thorn blown out Ukraine. At least when Ukraine gets to accept the deal from Blackrock to financially develop the place, the rest of the world and their enemies won't get to think in terms of what benefits the American government or wall street, but they would think in terms of how they were rescued and helped in times when Russia showed no mercy to their lands and lives. 

The place will sure get the financial boost needed and in same fate, welcome the NATO idea without even thinking twice about it.

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August 26, 2023, 02:00:11 PM
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That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise. It's a tactical war initiated by US by inviting Ukraine to join NATO. The sole intention of US was to gain uninterrupted access to Russian border. Ukraine is just a scapegoat.

So when BlackRock is planning their investment in Ukraine, the intention is now very clear. If the access cannot be received by war tactics, the next step is to gain access of the financial markets and gain so much dominance where US government can put pressure to have a military base in Ukraine. Well thought out plan by the only warmongers of this century.

Well, whatever NATO was offering to the Ukraine, that's all a diplomatic action, not a war decalration, if Putin wanted to 'retaliate' then he should only do diplomatic action, not invading Ukraine and declare a war. Doesn't matter what US do, what the world currently knows is that Putin was the one pulling the trigger.

And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich

You know this kind of attitude will be the start of you losing all of your money that you invested. And the correct phrase should be 'Blackrock never do moves that's not giving more benefit to them', it's very rare and almost impossible that an investment company doing a charity.

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August 26, 2023, 08:44:45 PM
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This is very good information. Yes as you said, Ukraine was used as a bait by US  to attack Russian and everyone who is political inclined would understand this political warfare tactics by the USA military and it government. And what USA did is not good. Though we are not from that part of the world so the stories we heard were different but all still boiled down to USA wanting Ukraine to join NATA and Russia government refused them to do that. And some said, Russia wanted to control the boarders. So we had different stories all together. We all pray that the way should end soon. I believed from international news, the war is going down.

BlackRock investment can stabilize Ukraine economy again, but I am still suspecting that there is a diplomatic agreement between the two because USA business company can't just come to a war zone and established itself there.









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August 26, 2023, 09:47:11 PM
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This could be an opportunity to those investors who wants to support the recovery of Ukraine and make profit at the same time. Let’s just hope that this is the beginning and the war will soon be over because many lives already lose and a lot of people are suffering from this war. This is where they said that there’s money in wars and that is during the recovery period.

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August 26, 2023, 09:56:34 PM
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This could be an opportunity to those investors who wants to support the recovery of Ukraine and make profit at the same time. Let’s just hope that this is the beginning and the war will soon be over because many lives already lose and a lot of people are suffering from this war.
I'm wishing that the war will have to end as soon as possible. Because the casualties are that much and it's about the people that are being frightened by this war. While the capitalists are earning and taking advantage of this situation which has always been the sad truth.

This is where they said that there’s money in wars and that is during the recovery period.
It's true, during and after the war. I've heard that Ukraine is now looking to hire a lot of people but not to fight but to rebuild their nation's destroyed infrastructures.

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August 26, 2023, 10:10:17 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Dont assume the Ukraine invasion will end soon just because BlackRock invested in Ukraine. From what I heard BlackRock invested in Ukraine so they can make huge money out of the war and a powerful investment company like BlackRock has been accused of buying almost everything which including the government shouldn't be expected to invest in Ukraine just to end the war.

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August 27, 2023, 03:30:44 AM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Blackrock ready to invest a lot capital in ukraine probably ukraine could be ready for huge bull run.
And off course west Will replace Putin or make Putin to go back in russia and USA come in ukraine to build their financial markets in ukraine so the wall Street Will make money and everybody knows that wall Street money making moment is holy Even putin will be killed if he Will interupt ukraine once big guys are there with their big capital.

Imagine what's the price ukraine currency once bull run start by holding ukraine currency you can become filthy rich.
And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich

You can become filthy rich or you can lose everything if Ukraine loses the war. It's a high-risk investment, you can earn a lot but you can also lose everything.

And yes, US is not the ultimate superpower there are certain things they can't afford.

The risk of Ukraine "losing" the war is next to nothing which is why private companies are investing funds into the country to the tune of billions of dollars. Blackrock aren't the only ones. The end of the war, while it may take years, looks like it'll be a peace deal brokered by NATO where Ukraine makes certain concessions of territory to Russia. The chance of Russia being able to overtake the entirety of Ukraine and house enough troops across the region to retain power is unlikely.
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The risk of Ukraine "losing" the war is next to nothing which is why private companies are investing funds into the country to the tune of billions of dollars. Blackrock aren't the only ones. The end of the war, while it may take years, looks like it'll be a peace deal brokered by NATO where Ukraine makes certain concessions of territory to Russia. The chance of Russia being able to overtake the entirety of Ukraine and house enough troops across the region to retain power is unlikely.
Right now Ukraine is desperate to recover all the damages Russia has caused to the country and will gladly accept any offer, even if it's rip-offs thinly veiled as magnanimous offers presented by vultures like BlackRock and the EU, each looking to take from where the Russians left.
The only good thing this alliance could bring is a massive influx of investors but then again, nothing goes for nothing because BlackRock FMA is notorious for it's ability to dissuade a country's attempt at regulations.
 Well, I may not know the main reason behind Putin's attack if Ukraine, but if it was to avoid the West from gaining entrance into their borders, he's sorely failing at it.

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August 27, 2023, 12:51:20 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Dont assume the Ukraine invasion will end soon just because BlackRock invested in Ukraine. From what I heard BlackRock invested in Ukraine so they can make huge money out of the war and a powerful investment company like BlackRock has been accused of buying almost everything which including the government shouldn't be expected to invest in Ukraine just to end the war.

In the beginning or the end, it's all about the money...more money, more weapons, more threats. Who cares about lives? We are just numbers... and we are not important. What's important is the profit for Blackrock and shareholders. I hope you feel the irony here. We had a topic here "Who is making a profit during wartime", I guess Blackrock is one of the answers. They will make even more profit once the war ends... so much about ethics and morality.

There is talk about peace, but much more attention is drawn to all those weapons that come from all over the world. With all the weapons around, I am also afraid that there will be no peace soon.
 



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August 27, 2023, 01:42:21 PM
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That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise.

I agree, Zelensky should be nominated for an Oscar soon. Seriously though, things like this have been happening since First World Governments were formed. As normal, regular people we will never know what is really going on behind the scenes.
The problem of wars all over the different parts of the world instituted  from when the formation of world powers emerged and the means to keep their present state of affairs unhindered will only lead to war after another war which may or may not indirectly involved their flags but their interest will unveil their involvement anyway.

The victims of a truth are the regular people because they don't know what's going on behind the scene but are convinced by what the different state media choose to deliver to their mind. If I were to have a say I will choose to stay neutral about this nonsense called war for the sake of widespread peace because it is the taking of sides that still makes the war linger.

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August 27, 2023, 01:52:26 PM
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You can become filthy rich or you can lose everything if Ukraine loses the war. It's a high-risk investment, you can earn a lot but you can also lose everything.
I don't think the risk of such investment is as high as you'd think. At the end of the day there are still cities and people and there are infrastructures they need. It doesn't matter who rules over those cities and people, they will still need the money to rebuild! Even if it is Russia that in the end takes control of those cities, they'll need foreign investors to rebuild anything they'd destroyed, which is where jackals like BlackRock come in to fill their own pockets.

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August 28, 2023, 10:15:09 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Dont assume the Ukraine invasion will end soon just because BlackRock invested in Ukraine. From what I heard BlackRock invested in Ukraine so they can make huge money out of the war and a powerful investment company like BlackRock has been accused of buying almost everything which including the government shouldn't be expected to invest in Ukraine just to end the war.

In the beginning or the end, it's all about the money...more money, more weapons, more threats. Who cares about lives? We are just numbers... and we are not important. What's important is the profit for Blackrock and shareholders. I hope you feel the irony here. We had a topic here "Who is making a profit during wartime", I guess Blackrock is one of the answers. They will make even more profit once the war ends... so much about ethics and morality.
You said it yourself that what is important to the BlackRock organization and their shareholders is profit and the lives of the people don't matter to them which I believe already fish out the reason why they invested in Ukraine since they know the Russian government will never withdraw from the invasion. If they are going to make more profit once the war ends why this they choose to invest in Ukraine instead of doing something that will end the conflict.

There is talk about peace, but much more attention is drawn to all those weapons that come from all over the world. With all the weapons around, I am also afraid that there will be no peace soon.
 
I don't expect it either since both sides were unable to reach a conclusion at the early stage of the invasion before now.

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August 28, 2023, 11:13:00 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
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You said it yourself that what is important to the BlackRock organization and their shareholders is profit and the lives of the people don't matter to them which I believe already fish out the reason why they invested in Ukraine since they know the Russian government will never withdraw from the invasion. If they are going to make more profit once the war ends why this they choose to invest in Ukraine instead of doing something that will end the conflict.

I said they will make even more profit once the war ends... buy deeps! It's still deep, so take as much as you can... and Blackrock has deep pockets.

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I don't expect it either since both sides were unable to reach a conclusion at the early stage of the invasion before now.

Well, after all this fighting it will be hard to reach any conclusions.


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August 29, 2023, 03:03:14 AM
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You can become filthy rich or you can lose everything if Ukraine loses the war. It's a high-risk investment, you can earn a lot but you can also lose everything.
I don't think the risk of such investment is as high as you'd think. At the end of the day there are still cities and people and there are infrastructures they need. It doesn't matter who rules over those cities and people, they will still need the money to rebuild! Even if it is Russia that in the end takes control of those cities, they'll need foreign investors to rebuild anything they'd destroyed, which is where jackals like BlackRock come in to fill their own pockets.
Most of all these multinational companies have their support base. Some of them that have an interest in Ukraine will either be pro-Nato or pro-Russia. But from the look of things BlackRock is aligned with the US and Nato. So we can assume that they are investing with the intention that Ukraine will become victorious. But we cannot underestimate the greed and influence of these companies. Most of them can be supporting the two warring groups to benefit regardless of the outcome of the war like the Rothschild sponsored both sides in the battle of Waterloo.

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August 29, 2023, 03:53:38 AM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Blackrock ready to invest a lot capital in ukraine probably ukraine could be ready for huge bull run.
And off course west Will replace Putin or make Putin to go back in russia and USA come in ukraine to build their financial markets in ukraine so the wall Street Will make money and everybody knows that wall Street money making moment is holy Even putin will be killed if he Will interupt ukraine once big guys are there with their big capital.

Imagine what's the price ukraine currency once bull run start by holding ukraine currency you can become filthy rich.
And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich
there is optimistic war is going over when the big company invest in conflict country. Because the big company like blackrock know that economic future and they won't lost the money he was invest. maybe is not currency only, but another instrument like stock, debenture, or another product value will going rise immediatelly. Maybe if I have chance and have unspend money I want going to invest also after post war.

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August 29, 2023, 11:59:26 AM
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That's what US always wanted! If you think the Russia - Ukraine war is happening because of Putin, you are living in fool's paradise. It's a tactical war initiated by US by inviting Ukraine to join NATO. The sole intention of US was to gain uninterrupted access to Russian border. Ukraine is just a scapegoat.

So when BlackRock is planning their investment in Ukraine, the intention is now very clear. If the access cannot be received by war tactics, the next step is to gain access of the financial markets and gain so much dominance where US government can put pressure to have a military base in Ukraine. Well thought out plan by the only warmongers of this century.


No offense - but... it looks like you are just writing from a fool's paradise Smiley
And to prove it is simple - answer one, extremely simple, and easily verifiable question : When did the USA invite Ukraine to NATO ? Provided that Russia attacked Ukraine, at that neither about NATO nor about something else reasons were not voiced. And it was stated, the initial pretext, though quite idiotic, and exactly for the "paradise of fools - "protection of the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine" Smiley
So the question - when did the USA invite/offer Ukraine to join NATO ? And let's check who is where Smiley

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August 29, 2023, 07:45:20 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
Blackrock ready to invest a lot capital in ukraine probably ukraine could be ready for huge bull run.
And off course west Will replace Putin or make Putin to go back in russia and USA come in ukraine to build their financial markets in ukraine so the wall Street Will make money and everybody knows that wall Street money making moment is holy Even putin will be killed if he Will interupt ukraine once big guys are there with their big capital.

Imagine what's the price ukraine currency once bull run start by holding ukraine currency you can become filthy rich.
And blackrock never do moves what's not good If blackrock ready to go all in ukraine then i follow them i rich

Blackrock is an investment business and as part of that they will take certain "bets" that the situation will at some point in the future stabilize, with the money they're putting into assets now becoming less risky and being possible to ultimately sell for more in future. This is good for Ukraine and bad for Russia, because if they thought Ukraine was losing then they would avoid adding any new money in. Ultimately the war has destroyed the illusion that Russia is a credible military power and dismantled the 20 years worth of shadow games that Putin was able to play quite well. However, much like egomaniacs and psychopaths, they fool into the trap of their own messaging.

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August 29, 2023, 09:24:48 PM
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We can assoome the war Will be over soon becouse blackrock invest in ukraine so 1-2 years more and war over.
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You said it yourself that what is important to the BlackRock organization and their shareholders is profit and the lives of the people don't matter to them which I believe already fish out the reason why they invested in Ukraine since they know the Russian government will never withdraw from the invasion. If they are going to make more profit once the war ends why this they choose to invest in Ukraine instead of doing something that will end the conflict.

I said they will make even more profit once the war ends... buy deeps! It's still deep, so take as much as you can... and Blackrock has deep pockets.
Okay, but BlackRock is already the major market player and they buy almost everything. According to what I read they are making the most profit when there's war or economic problems cause it will be easy for them to sell at a high price something they buy/invest cheap.
If the is war they will make a profit but not like when there's no war.

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I don't expect it either since both sides were unable to reach a conclusion at the early stage of the invasion before now.
Well, after all this fighting it will be hard to reach any conclusions.
Yes, and the fight was hard to reach a conclusion because our leaders are using the life and property of humans to play a political game.

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August 31, 2023, 03:13:06 PM
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This is very good information. Yes as you said, Ukraine was used as a bait by US  to attack Russian and everyone who is political inclined would understand this political warfare tactics by the USA military and it government. And what USA did is not good. Though we are not from that part of the world so the stories we heard were different but all still boiled down to USA wanting Ukraine to join NATA and Russia government refused them to do that. And some said, Russia wanted to control the boarders. So we had different stories all together. We all pray that the way should end soon. I believed from international news, the war is going down.

BlackRock investment can stabilize Ukraine economy again, but I am still suspecting that there is a diplomatic agreement between the two because USA business company can't just come to a war zone and established itself there.
It seems that you are very far from understanding what happened and is happening in Ukraine about this war. Putin still comes up with absurd ideas about why he attacked Ukraine. But the fact remains: he wanted to destroy Ukraine and annex its territory to Russia, seize its fertile lands, well-developed industry, and most importantly, the history of Ukraine, which dates back to the time of the powerful state of Kievan Rus of the 9th century, without which today's Russia is nothing with its true history of several centuries.
Therefore, Putin began to invade Ukraine gradually, since 2014, seizing the then Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea and part of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Just because the world community did not properly respond to Russian aggression in 2014, Putin went further and in February 2022 sent eight of his armies to Ukraine from the north, east and south of this country. The Ukrainians were able to give a good rebuff to the invaders, and therefore the United States and other states began to provide all kinds of assistance to Ukraine in protecting its independence and territorial integrity.

In preparing to attack Ukraine, Putin poured billions of dollars into pro-Russian officials in Ukraine, and they assured him that Ukrainians would greet the Russians with flowers as their liberators. This is where Putin miscalculated when he attacked Ukraine. And when, after two months of the invasion, the Russians began to flee from the center and north of Ukraine, leaving their armored vehicles there in order not to be completely defeated, it was too late for Putin to retreat. The people of Russia would not have forgiven him for this, and he would have been overthrown. By continuing the war, Putin is simply delaying the collapse of his power.

Now for the third month now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been attacking the Russians along the entire front, stretching over a thousand kilometers. The difficulty lies in the fact that the Russians have mined large areas, where for every meter there are six anti-personnel and one anti-tank mines. In addition, the Russians still have a huge advantage in aircraft and helicopters, and it is very difficult to attack at the same time. But by now, the mined area has practically been passed, the southern front of the Russians is bursting at the seams in many places, and the last reserves have been thrown into battle by the Russians. If the front is broken and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the south reach the Sea of Azov (which is less than a hundred kilometers), it will become obvious that Russia has lost this war. Then the entire pro-island of Crimea will be under the fire control of the Ukrainians and the Russians will be trapped there.

The Ukrainian people are grateful to the United States, England and other countries that have provided and continue to provide Ukraine with all kinds of assistance and defend their independence. That Blackrock and others like it intend to invest in post-war Ukraine is a testament to their belief in Ukraine's victory.

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August 31, 2023, 03:36:10 PM
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Honestly you could also do it yourself as well if I am not wrong. Depending on the laws of course, I do not think that there should be anything that blocks you from buying a land there, or a building, and just make a profit. We are not as rich as Blackrock of course, hell Ukraine is not as rich as Blackrock, the whole nation, wasn't richer even before the war.

So, I think it should be important to remember that Blackrock will not do anything you can't do, they will just do what you can do but with a lot more money. And to be fair there is so much money to be made there, if Russia war ends, there will be a lot of devastated places, you could buy them, clean up the rubbles, build a big building, and just make a profit.

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