Can money be saved in gambling sites?

[electronicash]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

[Westinhome]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

The Stake is the top casino in the world and it was the reason for the refund of the money even after the hacking.But the small or normal gambling sites can’t refund the money,some may refund the fifty percentage of the money to the loss people.The worth of loss dollars 41 million will be the net worth of 5-6 casino was easy one. It’s better to play on the old and trusted casino,because their bank wallet is very high security.The Stake had huge security for the bitcoin wallet,So some coins only loss for the stake.

[Chikito]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

The casino site uses the same method as an exchange where the money we have deposited is not immediately on the balance site, but receipt on the cold wallet casino. So with this interclude, usually used by hackers to start running to take the all fund. I've come across cases where the hacker just got the balance on the site, not on the wallet real, so in that situation the hacker just got an empty balance or just a number, usually there is a warning, and there may be signs of being hacked, but not in the cold wallet, but in just a wallet casini where it's just a number.

[Tipstar]

Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?
We can decide not to save money in our fiat bank account or any other micro finance bank account for one reason or the other and save it in a licensed gambling sites can that idea be possible, will the money deposited there not be tempered with from the gambling platform or removed automatically from the account after keeping it for a long period of time?
I know it might be very hard to save money in a gambling site because we  might have the feelings of winning if we try to stake, it can be hard for a gambler to save money in a gambling site but it will be easy for a non gambler, I put in mind that everything start one day so even a non gambler can try at the first, I bring this discussion here so we can discuss about it to keep our selfs busy.

Providing bankroll for gambling site could be a good way to increase your crypto holdings. Specially the coins you believe in would rise high in the future and doesn't have any better way of getting a reward by staking. For example no staking service would provide you more than 1% on bitcoin interest while its about 12% per year on bankroll investment. The only risk is about the gambling site going scam or changing its bankroll rules. Another risk surely is of you betting all your money out.
For people who religiously refrain themselves from betting and interest bearing wallets, bankroll investment could be a halal thing as here you share the profit. Though you should ignore that it's coming from people losing on gambling.

[maydna]

Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?
We can decide not to save money in our fiat bank account or any other micro finance bank account for one reason or the other and save it in a licensed gambling sites can that idea be possible, will the money deposited there not be tempered with from the gambling platform or removed automatically from the account after keeping it for a long period of time?
I know it might be very hard to save money in a gambling site because we  might have the feelings of winning if we try to stake, it can be hard for a gambler to save money in a gambling site but it will be easy for a non gambler, I put in mind that everything start one day so even a non gambler can try at the first, I bring this discussion here so we can discuss about it to keep our selfs busy.

Providing bankroll for gambling site could be a good way to increase your crypto holdings. Specially the coins you believe in would rise high in the future and doesn't have any better way of getting a reward by staking. For example no staking service would provide you more than 1% on bitcoin interest while its about 12% per year on bankroll investment. The only risk is about the gambling site going scam or changing its bankroll rules. Another risk surely is of you betting all your money out.
For people who religiously refrain themselves from betting and interest bearing wallets, bankroll investment could be a halal thing as here you share the profit. Though you should ignore that it's coming from people losing on gambling.

But be careful if you want to stake or invest in a casino and always make sure that the casino is a reputable and trusted casino so that you don't experience problems later. The risk we face when storing coins in a casino is indeed fraud or the casino changing its rules so that we have to withdraw the coins and move them to another wallet.

But the best place to store your coins is in a private wallet that you can always monitor and control. That would be the best place to avoid fraud that often occurs. And it's best not to use your personal wallet to connect to any site other than just to store your coins while waiting for the market to increase again or get a bull run.

[Westinhome]

But be careful if you want to stake or invest in a casino and always make sure that the casino is a reputable and trusted casino so that you don't experience problems later. The risk we face when storing coins in a casino is indeed fraud or the casino changing its rules so that we have to withdraw the coins and move them to another wallet.

But the best place to store your coins is in a private wallet that you can always monitor and control. That would be the best place to avoid fraud that often occurs. And it's best not to use your personal wallet to connect to any site other than just to store your coins while waiting for the market to increase again or get a bull run.

If the website was good after you analysis by the data from the announcement details of the casino site,you can hold the money in the casin site.But for the safety,you can withdrew the funds after the winning in the gambling sites.In some sites,many people was report of not able to withdrew the funds after the big win.In order to avoid such things,you can do the withdrew immediately after the winning.If the money needed on the game,you can do deposit of money which you needed for specific game.The gambler can save their money in the wallet if the website had no trust issue to save the deposit time for the next game.The gambler can withdrew the big money after the big winnings from the multiple game.

[Woodie]

Can money be saved in gambling sites?

Yes money can be saved there, but the problem with gambling sites is that they can close if they do not have much traffic to their platforms, they can be hacked to the point of no return as they lose all their money, they can pull an exit scam... I think the reasons not to keep money on a gambling platform outweigh the reasons why you can save on these sites. For anybody that loves their peace of mind better keep a small amount you can afford to lose and be able to play with if you choose to gamble.

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

Just because we know that the company lost millions in this hack doesn't automatically make them "Rich" especially that these companies do get external financing to look financially healthy we shouldn't get everything at face value...but if their liabilities and investors can all be accounted for and still have $$$ left in their bank account I guess we can call them rich! 

[mindrust]

snippo

No it is never a good idea to save your money in casino accounts. First of all, you'll never know when these casinos leave the business. It could be anything. Site-wide hacks, account hacks, going bankrupt... They may decide to enforce KYC on you randomly... Let's say you are keeping your life savings (could be $50 or $500k or $5 million) in a casino account. Do think that's a wise idea? What will you do if something bad happens to that account? I hate banks like most people here but I haven't lost my mind that much yet. Don't keep big money on your casino account. Plain and simple.

[panjul07]

snippo

No it is never a good idea to save your money in casino accounts. First of all, you'll never know when these casinos leave the business. It could be anything. Site-wide hacks, account hacks, going bankrupt... They may decide to enforce KYC on you randomly... Let's say you are keeping your life savings (could be $50 or $500k or $5 million) in a casino account. Do think that's a wise idea? What will you do if something bad happens to that account? I hate banks like most people here but I haven't lost my mind that much yet. Don't keep big money on your casino account. Plain and simple.

I do hate banks as well but without a doubt banks is still better than casino account if the main purpose is to save our money.
But of course there are still some other better options to save our crypto, one of them is obviously using our own wallet.
Every option has its own risk so we should be prepared for everything and set the best security for our own assets to minimize the possible risk of losing.
Still, saving our asset in online casinos can be said as the dumbest thing

[kamvreto]

snippo

No it is never a good idea to save your money in casino accounts. First of all, you'll never know when these casinos leave the business. It could be anything. Site-wide hacks, account hacks, going bankrupt... They may decide to enforce KYC on you randomly... Let's say you are keeping your life savings (could be $50 or $500k or $5 million) in a casino account. Do think that's a wise idea? What will you do if something bad happens to that account? I hate banks like most people here but I haven't lost my mind that much yet. Don't keep big money on your casino account. Plain and simple.

I do hate banks as well but without a doubt banks is still better than casino account if the main purpose is to save our money.
But of course there are still some other better options to save our crypto, one of them is obviously using our own wallet.
Every option has its own risk so we should be prepared for everything and set the best security for our own assets to minimize the possible risk of losing.
Still, saving our asset in online casinos can be said as the dumbest thing

Saving $100 may not matter much as it is only used to play and make some bets. But if it is in the amount of thousands of dollars and is being deposited in a casino account, that is indeed a stupid move. Never mind saving in a casino account, even saving on a centralized exchange is a risk. It's best to keep it in a personal wallet and have full control. Nothing will be safe if the money depositor does not have full control. Personal wallet security is the responsibility of the user himself

[TastyChillySauce00]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

Stake's hacked case was not affecting its users as explained by eddie if stake stored most of its fund on its cold storage. That's probably only a few percents of funds stored in the hot wallet of stake. The hacker was so crazy right now.



The hacker is now attacking exchange site. The amounts stolen from coinex goes to the same wallet used by the same hacker.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com?

Probably, bankrupt?

if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

Since that casino has no funds to recover its service and reimburse its users. People's money will be gone forever. Storing money in casino for long time is bad thing.

[Wakate]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

Keep your fund in a casino is not even the best because anything can happen to the casino and if the casino is not ready to refund the victim maybe after an hack, that will be a eye opening to everyone who think a casino can be use as a saving account like a bank or saving box. I can't even imagine why we are going to think of leaving our funds in a casino for too long whether it has a good reputation or not. It is better we are wise and take decisions that will not affect us in a long time making us to lose money even when it does not meant to happen.

[Juse14]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

The Stake is the top casino in the world and it was the reason for the refund of the money even after the hacking.But the small or normal gambling sites can’t refund the money,some may refund the fifty percentage of the money to the loss people.The worth of loss dollars 41 million will be the net worth of 5-6 casino was easy one. It’s better to play on the old and trusted casino,because their bank wallet is very high security.The Stake had huge security for the bitcoin wallet,So some coins only loss for the stake.

This is where it is important for us to pay attention to the security of the gambling platform we use. Don't be easily tempted by attractive offers provided by gambling platforms whose licenses and security are unclear. and I think that quite a few people have been fooled by gambling platforms whose licenses are unclear. And they can be fooled by fake gambling platforms, due to laziness in looking for clear information about the site and also carelessness because they don't pay attention to the security in it by simply registering and directly agreeing to the terms without reading carefully the terms and conditions therein first.

[Kasabus]

Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?

It is possible but it's never been a good idea to begin with and if you will do that, I don't know what will happen to you next as there are lots of risks entailed with it. I mean it doesn't really make sense at all; we are already avoiding banks because their interests cannot match up the growing inflation and then now you are trusting your money with in an online casino just because they are reputable? Remember, it's not your money if you are not really holding it yourself.

[hahay]

I am sure, for those who are not familiar with gambling then of course, they will not save their money on online gambling platform. But for those who are used to gambling because at the same time, they are also used to making deposits in online gambling. So at least, this factor will make them feel comfortable saving their money on the platform they usually use. But still, saving money on an online gambling platform will not be right or good if you use it for the long term. But it's also possible, if the gambling platform has a license which of course, will make its users feel safe. So yes, it is possible that there are many users who save their money there for a possibly longer period of time. But one thing we must remain aware of is that we must also have awareness and calculations about the money we should to save and the money we will use for gambling.

[Fatunad]

snippo

No it is never a good idea to save your money in casino accounts. First of all, you'll never know when these casinos leave the business. It could be anything. Site-wide hacks, account hacks, going bankrupt... They may decide to enforce KYC on you randomly... Let's say you are keeping your life savings (could be $50 or $500k or $5 million) in a casino account. Do think that's a wise idea? What will you do if something bad happens to that account? I hate banks like most people here but I haven't lost my mind that much yet. Don't keep big money on your casino account. Plain and simple.

I do hate banks as well but without a doubt banks is still better than casino account if the main purpose is to save our money.
But of course there are still some other better options to save our crypto, one of them is obviously using our own wallet.
Every option has its own risk so we should be prepared for everything and set the best security for our own assets to minimize the possible risk of losing.
Still, saving our asset in online casinos can be said as the dumbest thing

Saving $100 may not matter much as it is only used to play and make some bets. But if it is in the amount of thousands of dollars and is being deposited in a casino account, that is indeed a stupid move. Never mind saving in a casino account, even saving on a centralized exchange is a risk. It's best to keep it in a personal wallet and have full control. Nothing will be safe if the money depositor does not have full control. Personal wallet security is the responsibility of the user himself

Totally stupid move and decision that would be made and most likely those amounts or funds would really be spend on doing gambling in that said platform knowing that you do have the funds on their which you could easily make some gameplay ro bets all you want since you do have the balance which it would really be putting up that money of yours at risks on spending it all which would be leaving out that kind of regret.Next problem would be is about that safety of funds, we do always know the basic principles that not your keys then its not your wallet and holding up those coins on a centralized wallets on which you dont have the possession
of those keys on which means that on the time that they would really be deciding on running away their users funds then there's nothing you can do about retrieval or getting those funds back but you would really be just simply weeping your tears in the corner. Lastly, who would really be on their right minds on storing up their money on an online casino if they could really be able to do so with their own crypto wallets or simply
if this in fiat form then you would really be trusting up banks for sure, no matter how much we do hate it but cant really be denied that these institutions is more trusted and capable on saving up your fiat.

[goldkingcoiner]

Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?

On one hand, I would disagree with you but on the other hand you might actually have quite the valid point, there.

I believe that saving is the worst thing you can do with your money, because the fiat system is expected to intrinsically have faults in it such as inflation (or in other words, the government infinitely printing money). But then again, this has to do with the worth of the money fluctuating in value itself, rather than gambling prices changing. Since there are no prices in gambling, you can gamble any amounts of money that you wish to gamble, as long as you bet the minimum amount.

So ironically, for gambling nothing changes, whether you save or do not save your money. The only thing that changes is how much your money is worth.

The good thing that I see here is that you have developed a plan and that you are separating your gambling funds from your personal funds. This shows a good level of discipline, which is sorely needed in the gambling world. Furthermore, if you bet with Bitcoin, it is always a good idea not to spend Bitcoin too soon. Save that for later when its worth more.

[Huppercase]

this thread reminds of me of what happened to Stake recently where they just got hacked. not sure if the coins of the users were also compromised but hopefully not after all Stake is very rich and can refund all.

but what happens if it weren't stake.com? if it was just a casino that isn't very well known and only a few thousand in their budget for refunds then you lost your coins as if you are scammed.

If you are a company like stake and was compromised of such amount of money, will you say that the customers money was compromised? Of course no. They will not announce any damage control so as not to make people panic, they will make it look like as if nothing happened and find a means to cover up. This kind of loss can take years of revenue before they recover and if they successfully caught the culprits, they will recover fast but right now, the guys have not spend the money from the wallet and nothing has been found so far from the lead.

To gamble, you have to keep your money on the exchange but I'm not sure if those money on users balance are reall, they could be dummy text t represent the equivalent amount they have under the betting platforms and when it's time to withdraw, they pay the owner to their destination address. But if that's their real money on the platform, many betting platforms that do that will by now learn lesson from stake and find alternative that is better.

[salad daging]

Saving $100 may not matter much as it is only used to play and make some bets. But if it is in the amount of thousands of dollars and is being deposited in a casino account, that is indeed a stupid move. Never mind saving in a casino account, even saving on a centralized exchange is a risk. It's best to keep it in a personal wallet and have full control. Nothing will be safe if the money depositor does not have full control. Personal wallet security is the responsibility of the user himself

If they have $1000 dollars for example in a gambling account it's not a problem because it will be used for the bets they often make, but if there is an intention to keep the money in the casino then that is reckless IMO.

Are there no other options than at the casino? It's clear exchanges are better for depositing than in casinos "even exchanges are still risky" But there are still other options with non-custodial wallets.

Can't believe there are people with behavior like that, I entered the casino just for entertainment with a few dollars to play with.

[Davidvictorson]

Assuming you are not fan of Bitcoin, saving your money in the bank still the best option than saving your money anywhere. The bank is insured so if there is a mismanagement of funds that leads to a shutdown of the bank you get your money back and in full. And you can even sue them if they refused to give you your money. A casino can shut down today and disappear without a trace. You can't take them to court. No one will be held responsible aside from you.