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August 25, 2023, 06:01:52 PM
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I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly.
Same situation here. Everyone instantly thinks of the cryptocurrency scam-sector, and dismisses anything I have to say about bitcoin.

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August 25, 2023, 06:12:41 PM
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For payments, yes.  Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.

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August 25, 2023, 06:29:07 PM
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Why not spread the idea of Bitcoin among people you trust without a doubt. I know he woudn't tear down my house trying to find my seed(s) (and he sure would have to).

Well, as I said, I've done that many years ago. And not once. And clearly with more people than the two examples. (If any of them have invested.. they've never told me.)
But now.. there's nobody left I can trust and I didn't already tried to spread the idea.

So your point is correct, but I no longer can much on that.


And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire  Wink

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August 25, 2023, 06:39:40 PM
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I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

You will never know until you ask. In my location, many people are aware of Bitcoin but they are more concerned about using it as a hedge against inflation and not as a means of payment. Some will also prefer using other forms of payment because their service or work charge might be insignificant to use Bitcoin payment systems due to transaction fees.

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While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Youths are more aware of Bitcoin than other age. They are more technologically inclined and easily adapt to innovation. You can easily get information about Bitcoin in most higher institutions of learning.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused onIfif I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have not asked any worker about paying in Bitcoin and none have ever asked. But I might consider it if I want to make a high payment. The decision to live a private life has also limited me from exposing that I am a Bitcoiner.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
Promoting Bitcoin is not supported around me as crypto is banned in my country so I avoid to talk about it publicly but wherever I found someone talking bad about BTC on the basis of there wrong beliefs and wrong knowledge I do not hesitate to correct them.

And people near to me, tend to ask me because I share content related to crypto sometimes memes on my Status so those who asked by themselves. I teach them the basics.

People in my country are so attached to traditional finance like the banking system. They accepted the fate and the loss too. I am talking about the loss which they face due to the devaluing of there savings due to inflation. But even though they know BTC could save them from that loss but many afraid due to its volatility and many have religious beliefs about it. But still, I always tries to spread the knowledge I have in crypto for free.

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August 25, 2023, 07:06:04 PM
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I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  Sad
I experimented the same, the looks of disdain you can get from people thinking you were an idiot by investing in an asset which was clearly a scam to them is not something you forget, things have changed of course and many of those same people have at some point asked me about it and I simply play dumb or I do not even answer them, and the reason is obvious, now that many people know bitcoin is valuable it is a huge mistake to let others know you have it, as they may imagine you have a fortune and then then try to steal it from you.
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August 25, 2023, 07:46:26 PM
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Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.
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August 25, 2023, 07:52:48 PM
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He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
my story is a little different from yours, i run a vehicle wash business, i was once on a whim making payment options with bitcoin and some altcoins and i was quite surprised when i got a conversation with one of my detergent providers, he said he accepts payment by bitcoin if i want, which makes me wonder here that he is not young, he is middle age and when i asked him where he knew about bitcoin, he said his nephew is a bitcoin trader (i don't know if his nephew is a member of this forum too lol) he said fatherly earn money on the side, he often asks about potential future businesses and his nephew recommends bitcoin and other crypto assets, here i am quite happy because it turns out that there are many people who are unexposed are bitcoin lovers, bitcoin has become part of many people's lives.

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I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  Sad

That's me, which really is a sad thing.

Long ago, in 2016, I was full of hope for humanity and tried to tell people about bitcoin but I saw that smirk on their faces telling me something like "this guy got hooked by those  scammers, he's going to lose money" so I stopped doing it. it reached a point where I wouldn't talk about bitcoin at all unless somebody mentions it. Even then I don't immediately contradict them or reveal that I'm a bitcoiner but instead I try to learn as much as I can about their attitude, asking if they own some, if they heard about this or that, like blackrock investing, microstrategy and all the rest.


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August 25, 2023, 08:09:22 PM
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From the topic and the first and second paragraphs of the thread I was thinking that it is a kind of off topic but as i finished reading the whole thread then I came to understand the content. As for me, I normally ask people if I am buying a mega electronics and I have not meant anyone that accepting bitcoin. Some of them even told me that they have not heard or they don't know what is bitcoin.

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August 25, 2023, 08:14:40 PM
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It's relative. Some countries are well aware of how crypto and bitcoin works. In the Philippines you do that and people will give you the funny looks. It's not that bad either that much I can say but at the same time I don't want to subject people into so much trouble especially after fixing my sink just to get them into bitcoin. Although if the welcome the idea why not. I agree with asking people if they want to get paid with bitcoin but this could drive some bitcoin fanatics into thinking they can just shove the bitcoin narrative to people's faces which is going to be a delicate slope to take. So still ask people if they want to get paid with bitcoin, but the first sign of rejection should be taken as it is and not be pushed too far already.

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August 25, 2023, 08:23:55 PM
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Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.
Even with the Bitcoin restrictions, people are still using Bitcoin in isolation and you will need to ask before they will tell you that they are Bitcoin investors or optimist. Asking people if they use Bitcoin may be an improper question but there is a way we can do it that will not look derogatory. We can always share our thoughts about Bitcoin to people to see if they will be interested, from there we can know those who care about Bitcoin and the people that don't give a shit about it especially in a region where Bitcoin is fully our partially ban.

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For payments, yes.  Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.


When you need to use the bitcoin as the mode of payment,it’s most essential one to ask the receiver to know about the address.The bank doesn’t like to use the bitcoin for their transactions,only in some countries the government itself guided their central government to launch the new cryptocurrency for them.But it takes huge time for the implementation after the creation of government owned cryptocurrency.Because it’s very hard to reach the downtrend of the society illiterate to learn of using the cryptocurrency from the paper money.

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Cool story… I used to ask people and give them the talk when they inquired about it. Most normal people think you’re trying to scam them or rope them into a Ponzi scheme. I understand it. You really need to jump down the rabbit hole on your own. You can’t force people to want to care about Bitcoin. A higher percentage of people than you probably think don’t want to care or concern themselves with the state of the dollar or the government.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Yes, I do make bitcoin awareness known to my close friends, but I don't ever promote bitcoin by asking anyone if I should pay them in bitcoin because I am not ready to spend the bitcoin I am holding for now. I would rather continue to accumulate them because I have plans for them in the near future, so I am holding my bitcoin as my investment.
 
And one thing again: the reason I don't ask if someone who comes to work for me will aspect Bitcoin or not is for security purposes. Who knows who may come to work for you and have back-to-back intentions toward you because they think you are worth something in your wallet? I have read in the news that people attack others because they just think it's worth some money. So I don't want everyone to know if I am using Bitcoin or not for now. Even my close friends, with whom I do discuss Bitcoin, don't know much about my wallet, but I do bring some points up so they can understand better.

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I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.
It is good to make use of Bitcoin as payment in real life but honestly using BTC as payment now doesn't look good from my own book based on the current price of the market and the chance of what accumulating BTC now will lead in the next few months.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
I have never promoted BTC that way but I have and prefer to engage with people in conversation. Besides, I have stopped using BTC as payment ever since the huge tx fee and I wonder how much you pay for a tx fee just by selling the plumber his payment through BTC.

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I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
Bitcoin is for everyone in the world. Athough it sometimes makes us surprises, but nothng can limit who are in Bitcoin relation. Btw, itis very glad to see many morepeople are using Bitcin for any transaction. But yeah, this may be asked for first, because I amnot sure that in all areas, people are opened with their involvement in Bitcoin.So, this  can be one of the ways to ask itfirst r to have such kind of discussion about it to star.But, for me myself,it is quite difficult to start because Bitcoin is sometimes still connsidered as negative thing in my areas. and thie fact that Bitcoin is illegal if used as paymenet currency, this is why I am not starting any yet to askpeople about using Bitcoin for transaction

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August 25, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
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I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
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I've had the exact same experience quite a few times and have now resorted to avoiding the conversation. A few days ago, I had another one tell me that Bitcoin stabilized and that's how it'll remain from now on. I tried explaining, but to no avail. I didn't bother any further.

While I like the idea and concept from the plumber's point of view, he's getting paid somewhere that he doesn't have direct access to; he can't spend it as easily as he can with a $20 bill; thus, my best guess is that he's using it as a saving-investing measure. On the other hand, I wouldn't pay with Bitcoin myself, as I feel that I'm spending a valuable asset along with any possible fees for something unnecessary. Moreover, as BlackHatCoiner mentioned, I'd prefer others not to know that I have Bitcoin, especially someone unknown as a plumber.

 
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August 25, 2023, 10:02:29 PM
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Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.


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Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.

of course, you won't ask such question if you know bitcoin and other crypto are illegal in your area. however, if all is ok, if you have your own business, you can post it outside your shop that you are accepting btc. so people will know that you are accepting this currency and some of them will be curious about it. who knows, someone will ask you to teach them how to transact with btc? so are you ready for someone to ask you how to deal with crypto?

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