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September 02, 2023, 09:08:28 PM
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.

The OP not said everything against the gambling sites as an unethical one,he said some gambling sites was doing this scam activities.The OP should understand this is not an activity of all the gambling site to add some bot for the win to their site.Some gambling site use the bot to made the random win to their alternative.Most of the gambling sites uses the bot for the cards games.Because the card game only involve of the points based.So showing the declare is easy task,for this reason most of the experienced gamblers won't play the cards game in the gambling sites.The bot is also used by some gamblers to get the winning amount to their account.

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September 02, 2023, 11:54:02 PM
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.

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September 04, 2023, 03:05:41 PM
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Someone who do cheat or someone bounds to do such thing whether you are a player or a casino itself then its never been that ethical on doing so on which we do really want that
real experience on fairest way as possible.Even into those known and reputable gambling sites or companies cant really be that totally be 100% fair at all since there's no way on knowing
that in the first place but dealing up with them does create that kind of confidence on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be having that kind of approach
on sticking on whats popular but cant really be avoided that there are indeed times on which you would really be that liking to test out some new places or something that you havent tested out before.
Simple with some curiosity and some little spark of interest which would trigger out with that kind of action on which it is really just that normal on having that way.
Abusing bonuses or whatever kind of promotions is never been that ethical, whether we do like it or not, there are really people or types who would really all do sorts of things
as long they do have the opportunity and doesnt mind whether its ethical,good or bad.
We need to tell the difference between a person's duty and an organization's credibility. A person's tendency to cheat, whether in a real-life game or an online one, shows a moral flaw. So, it's up to the organization, whether it's a well-known gambling site or a new one, to put in place strict measures to stop this kind of cheating

Even though I agree that no method is perfect, I will say that trustworthy sites tend to have more thorough checks in place. Your thoughts about how people are drawn to new things out of wonder are correct. But a seasoned gambler knows that stability and honesty are more important than new things

Let's not make things hard to understand about awards. Everyone likes a good deal, but the line must be drawn at abuse. There are no shades of gray when it comes to ethics. You are either in the light or in the dark

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September 04, 2023, 03:19:38 PM
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.
Well I can say that the topic discussion is favourable and relevant to both side the casino vs. the gambler This is so because bot usage can be used in both ways,  the gambler can use hot to cheat the casino,  and the casino can use the same bots to counter play the gambler,  this is how bad it is and we have to look at it from both side and try to discuss it accordingly since it practice is beginning to affect the overall experience of both party involved.
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September 04, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.
Well I can say that the topic discussion is favourable and relevant to both side the casino vs. the gambler This is so because bot usage can be used in both ways,  the gambler can use hot to cheat the casino,  and the casino can use the same bots to counter play the gambler,  this is how bad it is and we have to look at it from both side and try to discuss it accordingly since it practice is beginning to affect the overall experience of both party involved.

There is a little bit difference when you say that casino is using a bot in their favor or the gambler is using a bot. The gambling site can implement a bot without the knowledge of the gambler and they may never tell the gamblers about it.

On the other hand, if gambling site found that a gambler is using bot that is against their term and conditions, they may actually block his account for this act. It highly unlikely that a gambler can use bots and other automated means to cheat a casino.

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September 04, 2023, 03:58:05 PM
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however, it would be interesting to see these reports as well and not just read the allegations and the final verdict.
Here the unethical practices... is this topic because without such essential information it is not possible to understand anything about the story, and this topic does not even make much sense to exist (besides the fact that it should be placed in the scam accusation section Roll Eyes )

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September 05, 2023, 09:04:04 PM
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
I was about to say the same thing. I've seen a lot of legit websites and services receiving negative reviews and feedback on TrustPilot and most of the accounts that give those negative reviews are new accounts that has either just been created or are posting their first review which makes it clear that they aren't genuine reviews and are either done out of rage or anger, or they are done by competitors to damage the reputation of the platform or service.

Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing.

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September 05, 2023, 09:08:20 PM
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
I was about to say the same thing. I've seen a lot of legit websites and services receiving negative reviews and feedback on TrustPilot and most of the accounts that give those negative reviews are new accounts that has either just been created or are posting their first review which makes it clear that they aren't genuine reviews and are either done out of rage or anger, or they are done by competitors to damage the reputation of the platform or service.

Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing.
This is why i dont really trust up with those review sites whenever i do tend to seek out some crypto related kind of reputation with such information then i do always prefer on searching up information here on this forum itself on which i would say that it is more reliable and something that you could trust rather than into those sites which feedbacks could really be that false one or totally a lie despite on being a good site. We know that there are lots of competitions on this forum on which it would really be just that normal that there might be some false feedbacks just to make a certain company reputation would be going down. This is why its not really that shocking anymore that you could really be able to see some negatively-feedbacked site but turns out to be already a long time running and been popular on which you cant really be able to avoid on reading out those negative comments and reviews which its better to ignore and would be always better that you would really be sticking on your own ways or methods on how to verify whether the site is good or bad for you to make use on or stay on. Abuses on multiple accounts isnt really just that limited into this field but also in others as well as long they could really be able to excecute their plans then this what it counts.

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If substantiated, the use of fake accounts and bots poses a grave threat to genuine players. This practice not only distorts the true odds of winning but also fosters an environment where users are unknowingly competing against automated entities designed to tilt the odds in favor of the casino.

For now all this are just allegations as you haven't proven that anything that you have said is truth, but this allegations can be true because casino can be playing it unfair for the users without the users knowing that the system is manipulated not to favor them most of the time.

To make the casino look very busy and active, bots can been used by most of the casino to deceive gamblers into thinking that their casino is active and used by many gamblers and also to cheat their customers. People can go extra miles to make money so OP could be right.

I always think most casino are telling lies about their user number and the active gamblers that they have, I know we have lots of gamblers in the world but most of them are gambling on the popular casino and sportsbook so where do this small casino get all those high users.

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September 06, 2023, 08:22:34 AM
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I understand your sentiment but without solid proof, and as you clearly mentioned, this is just an allegation.

What to do now? Then stop using the site anymore if you think that will be good for you. It's always better to warn the community about certain issues regarding a site but only if there's solid proof about it or you itself experienced it for real and you showed every inch of the story here loud and clear.

A contest with a leaderboard is really prone to suspicious attempts of bot participants since users don't have any way to be able to look at the system behind it. Even if there's a way, it needs and requires a technical knowledge level to determine how's it going. But these sites won't ruin their reputation just to have their own bot participate in the tournament. It's hard to build a reputation, especially in crypto-gambling that's why these sites care for it seriously.
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