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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
well to be fair the man got a fair share of his fame from founding spacex which kind of helps advance space exploration so I give him that, but some people also don't know that tesla actually is just a company that elon invested maybe due to sheer luck or he's a great salesman that he could make tesla booming when later he takes over as a CEO, and there are plenty of companies that he founded as well so I got it when people are calling him the real life tony stark but I do kinda agree with you that people in this case often times are over glorifying him, his twitter definitely a disaster of an investment where the company valuation tanks right after his take over right now just become a den of scams and phishing, but i think he also has that ability to gather the masses into his favour as seen by many of his cases that I followed he seem to be really good at making people picking on his side though not all people get easily swayed but he could get some symphathy easily maybe because he's already being labeled as the real iron man helps him in that regard though i suppose.
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well to be fair the man got a fair share of his fame from founding spacex which kind of helps advance space exploration so I give him that,
Well paypal came first: https://marketrealist.com/p/did-elon-musk-create-paypal/Musk is a co-founder of PayPal. According to Business Insider, Musk founded the searchable business directory Zip2 with his brother when Musk was 24. The brothers sold Zip2 for $307 million four years later. Musk used his $22 million profit from the sale to help start the online bank X.com. https://www.britannica.com/topic/PayPal
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter.
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter. You would really be having that kind of boggled mind on why people has always that something that has to say on whatever the decisions made by Elon, as if they do really knows on how to handle up a business or company on which whenever they've seen that those steps and actions been made out is against into their interest then they would really be directly be criticizing it on which it isnt really just that they would really be shutting up their mouths and let those owners handle their own business. They are smarter than you and its their company in the first place and its none of your business on what they would gonna do into their own company. It is really just that simple on which if you dont really like on how they do act out then you could really always stop on using their service as simple as that. Lots of bashes and criticisms but still ending up on using it. lol
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Have to agree thats a smart measure, you never really want to have people pay to play or for access to free speech. There should be a better standard then that in a public forum ideally of course, I realize money makes business in plenty of other normal avenues but it did seem incorrect to go the money route on blue marks. Good to see they can admit some mistakes perhaps, everybody makes them of course. Also it was contradictory to what he said about advertising and how they would not be biased by the demands of big money companies,. Quite admirable though idealistic to the point of being unrealistic as everywhere there is advertising & its a kind of overt bias on purpose. In the West at least we do accept this deliberate bias as needed as part of capitalism but doesn't make it right and some of it is just lies to put it nicely. There's definitely an argument with two sides to it on this advertising question for pretty much every website on the internet. Advertising on one kind or another pre dates Bitcoin for required funding in quite a bit of activity.
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Today I decided to take a look to Twitter/X after a while without checking out the trends on there and stuff. As usual there days, I found Israel to be among the main trends of the day and I decided to check out what was going on exactly. Eventually, after a while, I encounter someone who opened a thread about how the planet has a problem of pedophile Jews and how they use their power and influence to sexually slave children. Those were about 6 posts filled with stuff which are very disturbing, not only because of the nature of what was being saying, but also because the huge amount of antisemitism being created and spread without anyone doing anything about it... Like... I get the approach of Musk is to have a social media which is supposed to be as free speech as possible for people to express their ideas and opinions, but claiming Jewish people in general have tendencies towards being attracted to minors and act of it sounds like something completely different from what I would have expected to see in a place where freedom is key. These are very wacky and strange political and societal times we all are living though, there is no doubt about it...
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter. You would really be having that kind of boggled mind on why people has always that something that has to say on whatever the decisions made by Elon, as if they do really knows on how to handle up a business or company on which whenever they've seen that those steps and actions been made out is against into their interest then they would really be directly be criticizing it on which it isnt really just that they would really be shutting up their mouths and let those owners handle their own business. They are smarter than you and its their company in the first place and its none of your business on what they would gonna do into their own company. It is really just that simple on which if you dont really like on how they do act out then you could really always stop on using their service as simple as that. Lots of bashes and criticisms but still ending up on using it. lol Holy shit I nearly had a brain aneurism decoding your post. First off, lots of conjecture in your post, and lots of false statements. I think. Still not 100% sure what the heck I just ..read..I guess you could call it. I went to college and got a degree in business management, so I’ve got a slight understanding of how to run a business or how one is properly ran. I also know that Elon is absolutely an incredible businessman, but that doesn’t mean he runs his businesses the most efficient way and that he hasn’t done a shit job in many aspects, of tye businesses he’s been a part of , or owns (but never created on his own accord..space x is probably the best example of HIS company /business but it wouldn’t have been possible if not for major government grants and he doesn’t create shit..he just oversees people who oversee the people creating things. He’s got a lot of people fooled in to thinking he’s some real life Tony Stark, which couldn’t be further from reality. I also don’t use or support any business he owns. I don’t have a twitter / X account, I’d never buy a Tesla as half of them are shit, I wouldn’t buy is solar panels as they are ripe with issues etc etc. Elon is one of history’s greatest businessmen, fact. Largely propped up on his fame and ability to fool people who only see things from a one perspective level. Bill Gates is an unbelievable businessman too..did he create Microsoft ? Did he create a false perception of whom he really is as a person? Dig a bit deeper my friend.
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I don’t have a twitter / X account, I’d never buy a Tesla as half of them are shit, I wouldn’t buy is solar panels as they are ripe with issues etc etc.
More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert? You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter. You would really be having that kind of boggled mind on why people has always that something that has to say on whatever the decisions made by Elon, as if they do really knows on how to handle up a business or company on which whenever they've seen that those steps and actions been made out is against into their interest then they would really be directly be criticizing it on which it isnt really just that they would really be shutting up their mouths and let those owners handle their own business. They are smarter than you and its their company in the first place and its none of your business on what they would gonna do into their own company. It is really just that simple on which if you dont really like on how they do act out then you could really always stop on using their service as simple as that. Lots of bashes and criticisms but still ending up on using it. lol Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully. Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.
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I don’t have a twitter / X account, I’d never buy a Tesla as half of them are shit, I wouldn’t buy is solar panels as they are ripe with issues etc etc.
More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert? You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person. Criticisms would really be that normal but on the time that it already crosses up the line then it would really be that something understandable that it is really that out and something that viable or something right. We do know that there are positive and negative criticisms but its true that when jealousy hits big time then this is where you would really be spitting out some non sense words towards a particular thing and this time we are talking about Elon and on the ways he handled out Twitter which is now "X". Yes, we did see such changes but we do really know that still there are tons of users who do make use of it. He had imposed that checkmarks but still there are ones who are willing on paying up for the subs. Its impossible that these billionaires arent that wary on the actions that they are taking. They wont really be able to reach out such state if they werent that good enough on business decisions.
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April 06, 2024, 08:23:08 PM |
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Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully.
Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.
Spot on. He most certainly thinks long term. Most of the funds collected came from people/companies who trust him, they still do.
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Iroh
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April 06, 2024, 10:58:02 PM |
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More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert?
You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.
Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints. One needn’t be a billionaire to criticize or have an opinion of the man and how he does things. And when one openly states his opinion, it doesn’t equals jealousy. It’s a bit weird seeing how people bend over to excuse the man and his actions.
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
I doubt that his fans never see him as he is though. I remember when i hadn't done any research about him, and i actually thought he had good pretty good pr. And i totally saw him as an iron man. Like did marvel as well, by putting him into iron man movie. But after he called that diver who was part of a team that saved those kids from a cave a pedo, i started to wonder what kind of man elon actually is. If he had shut up, he still could enjoy that legendary status, but then he opened his mouth more. So i had to look more closely, and to my surprise, all i found was more smoke and mirrors. Man buys companies, and doesn't design anything. If anything he tries to act like steve jobs and order people around telling to cut costs and safety and just do stuff. He wanted to be be known as founder of tesla, even if he really wasn't, and some kind of rocket engineer even when he wasn't. His big ideas seemed to be childish and way he talks about science is just amazingly dumb. I have seen actual scientist explaining stuff and when people know what they are talking about they don't try to evade subjects and speak as vaguely like elon. I had to sell my twitter account because of his bigotry and right now he is just retweeting extreme rightwingers and rumors with texts like "conserning" or "interesting" and no research or sources seem to be needed for the stats he is interested in.
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I really hope so many will wake up and see Elon for who he really is. I cringe when people call him the real life Tony Stark (Iron Man). The guys never made a hamburger, let alone a car or a rocket or a payment system..not shit. Is he incredibly good at being a salesmen..one the all time greatest..but I think his ego talked him in to buying twitter, which was not a good investment, the place is still an utter cesspool of bullshit, hatred, racism, bigotry etc etc. He is not the right guy to run that company. I just do not get the appeal in the man one tiny bit.
Elon Musk is the best businessman and he knows how to do business. He has struggled a lot in life and has taken many challenges head-on, in which case he made a mistake by buying Twitter, we might be wrong if we say that. There must be some reasons behind his purchase of Twitter with huge amount of money which he is not revealing till now. Before starting a new business one has to invest a lot of money in that business and there are many losses in the beginning of the business. If the traders can accept the loss and hold on to their business, then later they achieve success in that business. Since he bought Twitter with this huge amount of money, one day he will surely reveal the real purpose of buying Twitter. You would really be having that kind of boggled mind on why people has always that something that has to say on whatever the decisions made by Elon, as if they do really knows on how to handle up a business or company on which whenever they've seen that those steps and actions been made out is against into their interest then they would really be directly be criticizing it on which it isnt really just that they would really be shutting up their mouths and let those owners handle their own business. They are smarter than you and its their company in the first place and its none of your business on what they would gonna do into their own company. It is really just that simple on which if you dont really like on how they do act out then you could really always stop on using their service as simple as that. Lots of bashes and criticisms but still ending up on using it. lol Not sure why you are expressing such a frustration with the tendency of people to criticize the decisions made by individuals like Elon Musk, especially in the context of business and company management. The OP appears to believe that those who are not directly involved in running the business should refrain from criticizing the decisions made by its owners as the owners are perceived to be smarter and more capable than the critics.
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When you run publicly traded companie(s), one being a social media war zone (Elon stated just that, well before knowing he’d buy it, and mentioned he expected to get in to battles when he logged in..he’s a very verbal /controversial troll., by design. He knows how to suck people in to his web of attention seeking) then you’re more than fair game to be criticized, analyzed and critiqued up and down, left and right, daily. As one should be when they’re no longer in full control of the companies and there’s thousands to millions of other owners that bank on you doing well, literally. You don’t go public otherwise. . Also no, I can’t afford a Tesla. I live in a box on the streets of Narnia. Signature campaign is what keeps me fed, also how I bought a wardrobe to get here. Could be worse.
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Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints.
You seem unaware of the millions of people working administrations, in the Government, Private Industry, Venture capital firms, health care, insurance firms, and 1000 of other companies collecting salaries of US$ 5000 + Plus some plans, leasing and all other. In that world you go to the bank and get a credit, pay 10% and finance the rest.
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More importantly, do you have enough money to own a Tesla car? Don't rush to call them trash when the whole world is hunting them and is willing to spend hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars to own them. Reviewing a product that has been analyzed and reviewed by industry experts, are you a technical expert?
You graduated from college and are a financial advisor, but have you done anything that surpasses Elon? Because when we want to evaluate or criticize someone, we must at least be better than them, but if you only use words and words to criticize them, that only proves that you are jealous of them. When evaluating someone, people look at the results that person achieved and not just because you evaluate Elon, he is a bad person, and you are a good person.
Isn't it all about preference anymore? Talking about the price of a Tesla or even better a cyber truck is ridiculously expensive. The whole world isn’t willing to spend good money on a car that in my opinion, isn’t worth it. If you would take some time to read up on reviews, you’ll notice people are expressing several complaints. One needn’t be a billionaire to criticize or have an opinion of the man and how he does things. And when one openly states his opinion, it doesn’t equals jealousy. It’s a bit weird seeing how people bend over to excuse the man and his actions. I'm not making excuses for him or anyone because it won't help me make more money or become rich. My point is, if we don't like someone or a product, we can ignore it, why disparage or criticize it when we don't have enough money to own it? Just like bitcoin, there are many people who criticize and disparage it, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Besides those who criticize it, there are millions of others who still think bitcoin is divine, including me and you. Those who like to criticize expensive products like Tesla, Iphone...but the interesting thing is that those people are the ones who don't have enough money to own it. If you think Elon is bad at managing X, you can buy it and manage it the way you think is best. Or if you feel Tesla is trash, invent the best car yourself to show the world, LOL.
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April 08, 2024, 07:52:08 AM |
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Those of us who troll the performance of Messi, Neymar or Ronaldo or create memes about them are never at their level. Similarly, those of us who laugh at Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter or say that he acted like a fool by buying Twitter for such a huge amount of money, we are not Elon Musk's class of people at all. Elon Musk's thoughts will never match our thoughts. Elon Musk is a billionaire and he is one of the richest people in the world, but we can never think the way he would. The huge amount of money he bought Twitter with is a lot of money to us but maybe the money to buy Twitter is not that much to him and he must have bought Twitter thoughtfully.
Since he is not upset about his two purchases, we should not fear that he has acted foolishly.
Spot on. He most certainly thinks long term. Most of the funds collected came from people/companies who trust him, they still do. he bought twitter on a whim anyway, he probably trying to find a company that could raise his influence and win the trust of people through various means and twitter is definitely one of them even if it tanked in valuation its not gonna do anything, elon not gonna sell it so its really just unrealized floating loss for him unless he sold all his stocks he won't be regretting his own decision moreover its such a good way to advertise for his own company, even if the advertisers are going out of the platform he himself find a way to still make money through various means one of them is through the blue or gold ticker that arguably make scams and fake account more flourishing which definitely is its disadvantage but it does give profit to twitter. hopefully though he can sort out whatever problem in the platform, many people are already tired with twitter and its current state nowaday as a den of scammers with their fake account purposefully created for phishing people. if elon could overcome this problem, the valuation of twitter might increase again in the future it matters of his own decision to make twitter a better place.
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SourceMany people find the changes after purchasing twitter which is annoying. He fired most of the employees working there after the purchase of the platform which went viral on social media. There are many who have a negative view of their projects. After purchasing the platform, he wanted it to be resold, but it was no longer made available for sale. Elon Musk is a world-renowned businessman, he must carefully review any decision he makes because wherever he invests, it is never an ordinary investment. Since he has purchased it, he must continue to make every effort to profit from it. He will try his best on how to make it more user friendly. X Twitter is now known as X. Of course, many expect it to rise again in the future.
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