[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12

[Distinctin]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

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[avp2306]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

[coin-investor]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

[Jating]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

Perhaps he might be in the borderline of losing his prime years already at age 34 years old. So everything depends on his this fight, I mean if he looks sharp and win by knockout, then we might say that he can still fight and pull that trigger.

But if he can't and then won by a boring 12 rounds decision which also happens in his last fight in Manila, maybe he was already on the decline and he can't do anything if ever he will have to face Inoue in the future. So let's see how his performance against Oguni before we can make our conclusions.

[Sanitough]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.

I believe the current promoter is not doing well. Since leaving MP Promotion, he hasn't been able to secure great fights. I think the solution is to return to having good fights in the future. Who knows, he might have a chance to fight Inoue if MP Promotion can negotiate a good deal with Inoue's camp. This could potentially happen if he continues to win. At his current age of 34, he needs to be selective with his fights, as 34 years old is no longer considered young.

Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

As I mentioned, the promoter still plays a significant role in making big fights happen.

[btc_angela]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.

I believe the current promoter is not doing well. Since leaving MP Promotion, he hasn't been able to secure great fights. I think the solution is to return to having good fights in the future. Who knows, he might have a chance to fight Inoue if MP Promotion can negotiate a good deal with Inoue's camp. This could potentially happen if he continues to win. At his current age of 34, he needs to be selective with his fights, as 34 years old is no longer considered young.

Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

As I mentioned, the promoter still plays a significant role in making big fights happen.

And most likely this is the reason for Casimero to bolted out of MP promotions and move to a Japanese promoter? So that in the future, maybe he can secure a fight with the Japanese monster.

Or maybe as per reported before, Casimero wanted to be his own boss, even as far as going back to the Philippines when MP's Sean Gibbons advise him to stay in the US after his win against Rigo.

And most likely there is a blame game between the two, when Casimero failed to make 118 lbs 2x and was never able to fight Butler.

[avp2306]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

But his current situation makes him hard to get title matches. Maybe if he will go back to MP promotions he can get those big matches that he want as the management says that they can give that to Casimero if he want to go back and the only condition they need is to say sorry to them. But I think its hard for Casimero to do it since he's like he surrender to them and eat his own pride just to get those matches.

But if he really want  there fight against Inoue will happen he need a solid promotions to backed up him and maybe if MP promotions handle Casimero maybe they can set some good contracts to make this match happen.

[mirakal]

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

If it were only about the money, he could earn a decent amount. However, as a boxer, it's about achieving something significant before retirement. Just imagine if he could beat Inoue; that would elevate his name to the ranks of the greatest boxers in the lower divisions and open up opportunities for even bigger fights. I believe that if Inoue agrees to fight Casimero, he might ask the promoter to include a rematch clause in case he loses, giving him a chance to reclaim his title.

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

And if Inoue will not secure a rematch clause against Casimero, then we already know why and that is because they are not viewing Casimero as a threat. We cannot blame them if they will choose that but in that case, they should be careful because anything can happen because if ever Casimero upsets him. Then I don't think he's in the right page to call for a rematch because Casimero is not obliged to give that to him, unless Casimero wanted that as well.

[freedomgo]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

[Kemarit]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

But his current situation makes him hard to get title matches. Maybe if he will go back to MP promotions he can get those big matches that he want as the management says that they can give that to Casimero if he want to go back and the only condition they need is to say sorry to them. But I think its hard for Casimero to do it since he's like he surrender to them and eat his own pride just to get those matches.

But if he really want  there fight against Inoue will happen he need a solid promotions to backed up him and maybe if MP promotions handle Casimero maybe they can set some good contracts to make this match happen.

I don't think that Casimero will go back to MP promotions, the damage has been done between two parties and maybe as long as Sean Gibbons is with Manny, I doubt that he will re-sign with MP.
And it seems that he has move forward already with his Japanese promoter, had fights held in Manila and now he will have a Japanese fighter in front of him.
So he has move on with his career and as what we have been saying, this fight is going to be the deal breaker for him.
He needs to win impressively so that he will send the message across that he is still one force to reckon in this division.
His Japanese promoter are taking it easy, so this might be good for John Riel although he is not getting any younger though.

[harizen]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

[Jating]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

But his strategy is to win every fight and win it by knockout. Meaning it should be impressive that the boxing community might think that he will have same chance against the Monster. And if he wins by knockout, then for sure, the first thing that he will call is Inoue. But Naoya will have to deal with Tapales for unification.

[coin-investor]

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

He can continue mentioning Inoue if he beats and knocks out Oguni his last fight is not good if he mentions Inoue after his last fight people will not believe that he can beat Inoue he needs to level up his game and prove that he has what it takes to beat Inoue and maybe Inoue's promoter will notice it and finally arrange a match, with how Inoue perform and reputation he is only going to pick boxers who deserves like a champion like himself or with a good rank in the 4 boxing organization

It's Casimero who needs Inoue more than Inoue needs Casimero, Inoue can just ignore Casimero because he is hungry to conquer new weight classes and titles.

[Baofeng]

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

He can continue mentioning Inoue if he beats and knocks out Oguni his last fight is not good if he mentions Inoue after his last fight people will not believe that he can beat Inoue he needs to level up his game and prove that he has what it takes to beat Inoue and maybe Inoue's promoter will notice it and finally arrange a match, with how Inoue perform and reputation he is only going to pick boxers who deserves like a champion like himself or with a good rank in the 4 boxing organization

It's Casimero who needs Inoue more than Inoue needs Casimero, Inoue can just ignore Casimero because he is hungry to conquer new weight classes and titles.

True, he can mention Inoue's name all he want, but he can't knockout Oguni here, I doubt that Inoue's team are going to be interested even if Casimero has a Japanese promoter.

And as much as we really love Casimero, he first 2 fights are not that impressive in the super bantamweight. So it will be a big disappointment if he can't beat Oguni impressively. He will just be another another boxer below Inoue and we are not sure if he will get his chance again to become a champion. Inoue will probably go and hunt for the next title in higher weight class and not be bothered by not fighting Casimero.

[Japinat]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

We cannot really blame them for thinking about it, I mean they are just thinking what they think is best for him that is why they wanted somebody else and not this Oguni because this fight will not help him in his case and becaus Casimero himself haven't said either that he is already done chasing towards Inoue and will instead take his own pace.

So, it's quite normal and somewhat understandable if they, the fans, will still assume the same scenario that Casimero is still interested against Inoue.

[carlisle1]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

We cannot really blame them for thinking about it, I mean they are just thinking what they think is best for him that is why they wanted somebody else and not this Oguni because this fight will not help him in his case and because Casimero himself haven't said either that he is already done chasing towards Inoue and will instead take his own pace.

So, it's quite normal and somewhat understandable if they, the fans, will still assume the same scenario that Casimero is still interested against Inoue.

I agree with you, fans still hoping that chances for these two fighters to meet inside the ring is still possible, though
we can't speak for both of them, but we can always presume that it might take place.

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

[harizen]

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

He might get there someday since Casimero is now ranked by most boxing councils.

Another win against Oguni, especially if that's an impressive one will boost again his ranking, and now close to being a title contender again.

And no need for those fans to be worried since there's no plan for Inoue to move up if he wins against Tapales, at least "for now". Adding to that, if Tapales won instead and upset The Monster, Casimero would now be close to facing Inoue much more. But that was too early to think.

[serjent05]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

I heard that Casimero had cheated his age when he was 16 declaring he is 18 just to get into professional boxing.  So from that information, Casimero is only 32 so he is some years away from being past his prime and I agree that Casimero needs an impressive win in his upcoming fight so that the boxing council will find him worthy of the title shot.

About Casimero knocking out Oguni, looking at the record, he got 2 losses and both of them were KO so there is a high chance that Casimero might get the victory through KO.

[coin-investor]

I heard that Casimero had cheated his age when he was 16 declaring he is 18 just to get into professional boxing.  So from that information, Casimero is only 32 so he is some years away from being past his prime and I agree that Casimero needs an impressive win in his upcoming fight so that the boxing council will find him worthy of the title shot.

Did they correct it? On the internet, he is already 34 years old but if it's true that his real age is only 32 years then all of his potential opponents should know that they are fighting a Casimero that is 2 years younger, it works to Casimero's advantage if his opponents thinks he is old but his body is not.

About Casimero knocking out Oguni, looking at the record, he got 2 losses and both of them were KO so there is a high chance that Casimero might get the victory through KO.

Casimero should go for a knockout, his last win against Fillipus Nghitumbwa was not impressive considering that it was held in front of his countryman, and interest in Inoue's fight will heat up again if comes out with an impressive win.

[Distinctin]

Casimero should go for a knockout, his last win against Fillipus Nghitumbwa was not impressive considering that it was held in front of his countryman, and interest in Inoue's fight will heat up again if comes out with an impressive win.

Beating a KO artist with 11 wins, all by KO, before the fight isn't impressive? I think your standards are too high. Casimero won a tough battle, and what's important is that he won via unanimous decision. Perhaps at that time, Fillipus Nghitumbwa was underestimated, but his record indicates he's a volume puncher, and he was undefeated at that time. If a KO comes, that's great, but Casimero's primary goal was to secure the win. Most likely, a KO could happen if Oguni tried to avoid leaving the fight in the hands of the judges.

Casimero vs. Nery could be next; who knows? After that, he might become a mandatory challenger for Inoue. Let's trust the process, one step at a time. When we don't expect too much from Casimero, he may surprise us by delivering a good win.