[Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12

[bisdak40]

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It is just announced a few hours ago that Casimero will be back in the ring against another Japanese fighter in Oguni on October 12 at Ariake Arena in Japan.

The good thing about this card is that many Filipino fighters will be fighting in the undercard.

Will update the OP once there are available odds and updates about the subject.

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[Jawhead999]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

[yazher]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Yeah, it will be obviously a good fight for Casimero, this is just a step up fight for him and maybe if he win this one, he could be up next for the belt at 122 lbs, any of the current belt holder.

So we wanted to see him win here impressively, it will be good if he can score a knockout in front of the Japanese crowd and maybe he will be given the chance to fight Inoue as we have been waiting this in the last couple of years.

[carlisle1]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Yeah, it will be obviously a good fight for Casimero, this is just a step up fight for him and maybe if he win this one, he could be up next for the belt at 122 lbs, any of the current belt holder.

So we wanted to see him win here impressively, it will be good if he can score a knockout in front of the Japanese crowd and maybe he will be given the chance to fight Inoue as we have been waiting this in the last couple of years.

It will be a good hype for his career if he wins with a KO, though it's anticipated since the opponents are no longer in his prime
though the home crowd might affect his dedication to win.

It would be a disappointing loss for Casimero if Oguni will put him down and KO him in this fight, on the other side, if Casimero will win
with an impressive KO, surely he will gain more and will be more close to become a contender for the title.

[Kemarit]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Yeah, it will be obviously a good fight for Casimero, this is just a step up fight for him and maybe if he win this one, he could be up next for the belt at 122 lbs, any of the current belt holder.

So we wanted to see him win here impressively, it will be good if he can score a knockout in front of the Japanese crowd and maybe he will be given the chance to fight Inoue as we have been waiting this in the last couple of years.

It will be a good hype for his career if he wins with a KO, though it's anticipated since the opponents are no longer in his prime
though the home crowd might affect his dedication to win.

It would be a disappointing loss for Casimero if Oguni will put him down and KO him in this fight, on the other side, if Casimero will win
with an impressive KO, surely he will gain more and will be more close to become a contender for the title.

If I'm not mistaken, Casimero is under a Japanese promoter, so his promoters know how to pick up a Japanese that could be a less risk for Casimero as this point so it's a good choice to go for Oguni.
And yes, Casimero is known to be a road warrior, so it doesn't matter if his fight in in Japan or some countries in Latin America. He bring everything in the table here and hopefully we want to see some knockout and impressive wins so that his name will be back on track for a championship fight or even a good fight like Luis Nery or other rank fighters in the division.

[Yamifoud]

I hope Inoue will be able to watch this fight and then step up to the stage to challenge Casimero, hehe.

Well, obviously, this isn't a championship fight, and I think Casimero has a higher ranking compared to Oguni. So, I wouldn't expect Casimero to lose. Instead, I would just anticipate Casimero having an impressive victory to further fuel people's excitement about a potential match between him and Inoue.

You can check the rankings here: https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings. I don't see the name Oguni there, so it's possible that this fighter isn't well-known yet.

[bisdak40]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Yeah, it will be obviously a good fight for Casimero, this is just a step up fight for him and maybe if he win this one, he could be up next for the belt at 122 lbs, any of the current belt holder.

So we wanted to see him win here impressively, it will be good if he can score a knockout in front of the Japanese crowd and maybe he will be given the chance to fight Inoue as we have been waiting this in the last couple of years.

It will be a good hype for his career if he wins with a KO, though it's anticipated since the opponents are no longer in his prime
though the home crowd might affect his dedication to win.

It would be a disappointing loss for Casimero if Oguni will put him down and KO him in this fight, on the other side, if Casimero will win
with an impressive KO, surely he will gain more and will be more close to become a contender for the title.

If I'm not mistaken, Casimero is under a Japanese promoter, so his promoters know how to pick up a Japanese that could be a less risk for Casimero as this point so it's a good choice to go for Oguni.
And yes, Casimero is known to be a road warrior, so it doesn't matter if his fight in in Japan or some countries in Latin America. He bring everything in the table here and hopefully we want to see some knockout and impressive wins so that his name will be back on track for a championship fight or even a good fight like Luis Nery or other rank fighters in the division.

You are right mate, Casimero's promoters are Japanese, the Treasure Boxing Promotion. Though some stakeholders of that company might be Koreans but sure there are Japanese owners in that company so biased judging won't be an issue here and besides we all know how Casimero fights in the ring, he is an aggressive fighter that i think a 50-50 round would favor him because of his activity.

I like Casimero to be called the Japanese Slayer to somehow lure Inoue to fight him in the future to avenge the loss of his compatriot.

[serjent05]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

I hope that we really won't see an unfair judgment here.  Japan is infamous for unfair judgment.  Unless a boxer knocks out his Japanese opponent, the result will more likely be a win for the Japanese boxer.

It seems that Casimero's opponent is not as explosive as him, with an 8 KO on 21 wins.  2 losses via KO so I also think that Casimero can KO the opponent. Aside from that, Oguni had not fought for over a year and might have ring rust from inactivity.  So I think Casimero had all the advantage in this fight.

[Ziskinberg]

He's not a widely recognized name in the sport. Looking through his record, I noticed that all his fights have taken place in Japan. As a result, I don't believe he has faced quality fighters like Casimero has. Furthermore, he is no longer undefeated, having experienced two losses – one via RTD and another via TKO. Considering these factors, I wouldn't be surprised if Casimero wins by KO in this match.

I had hoped that Casimero would face a more formidable opponent, but this one seems to be more of a tune-up fight.

I've been trying to find the betting odds, but it appears that they are currently unavailable.

[inthelongrun]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

[Sanitough]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

[coin-investor]

I wonder why Casimero accepted this fight, This Oguni is an unknown boxer I can hardly see big fights of this Japanese fighter, he has a record of 19 wins 1 loss, and only 7 knockouts, the guy is slow and cannot be considered a power puncher
here is one of his fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdNnq7EE3o

We can understand if Casimero is coming from a loss, to take an easy fight like this but he is not, Casimero will not gain anything here while his opponent can gain a lot if Oguni upsets Casimero although its unlikley but possible.

[Yaunfitda]

I wonder why Casimero accepted this fight, This Oguni is an unknown boxer I can hardly see big fights of this Japanese fighter, he has a record of 19 wins 1 loss, and only 7 knockouts, the guy is slow and cannot be considered a power puncher
here is one of his fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdNnq7EE3o

We can understand if Casimero is coming from a loss, to take an easy fight like this but he is not, Casimero will not gain anything here while his opponent can gain a lot if Oguni upsets Casimero although its unlikley but possible.

Most likely this is just a stepping stone for him, not saying that this is an easy fight, but he needs to be active and to show that he could or should have a been given a chance to fight for the belt at his new weight class.

So if ever he wins this one, then for sure, early next year his rank will go up and most likely might be set up by his Japanese promoter to fight for a belt. Not necessarily Inoue, but it could be easily made as he is being manage by a Japanese so it could be done easily.

[coin-investor]

I wonder why Casimero accepted this fight, This Oguni is an unknown boxer I can hardly see big fights of this Japanese fighter, he has a record of 19 wins 1 loss, and only 7 knockouts, the guy is slow and cannot be considered a power puncher
here is one of his fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdNnq7EE3o

We can understand if Casimero is coming from a loss, to take an easy fight like this but he is not, Casimero will not gain anything here while his opponent can gain a lot if Oguni upsets Casimero although its unlikley but possible.

Most likely this is just a stepping stone for him, not saying that this is an easy fight, but he needs to be active and to show that he could or should have a been given a chance to fight for the belt at his new weight class.

So if ever he wins this one, then for sure, early next year his rank will go up and most likely might be set up by his Japanese promoter to fight for a belt. Not necessarily Inoue, but it could be easily made as he is being manage by a Japanese so it could be done easily.

With Casimero's status does he need a stepping stone? If it's a warm-up fight it should be from a fighter that will give him a good challenge but he can also beat, not good for Casimero but a chance or opportunity for Oguni, nevertheless, I hope Casimero will not take it easy and he will show the dangerous form that he is known for.

His last fight against Fllipus Nghitumbwa was good but not impressive, People expected him to knock out Fllipus Nghitumbwa but he had a hard time knocking him out.

I expect Casimero to have an impressive win here the guy like what I posted is slow and easy to hit and is not a knockout puncher.

[Kasabus]

This is good because Casimero is having another fight again before this year ends but I'm quite disappointed because Casimero pursued a nameless boxer instead of pursuing the likes of Luis Nery to make his credentials believable and so that his ranking in WBC will also improve.

Fighting Luis Nery could've made him to secure the spot for being the challenger of the Tapales vs Inoue winner, considering that John Riel Casimero successfully upsets Nery.

Anyway, I looked up Yukinori Oguni of Japan and he seems to have the height and reach advantage but that's all I can say because regardless of what the Japanese have, I have no doubts that Casimero will defeat him. Oguni ain't even a KO boxer.

[Westinhome]

I wonder why Casimero accepted this fight, This Oguni is an unknown boxer I can hardly see big fights of this Japanese fighter, he has a record of 19 wins 1 loss, and only 7 knockouts, the guy is slow and cannot be considered a power puncher
here is one of his fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdNnq7EE3o

We can understand if Casimero is coming from a loss, to take an easy fight like this but he is not, Casimero will not gain anything here while his opponent can gain a lot if Oguni upsets Casimero although its unlikley but possible.

Casimero was the best boxer with huge nuumber of supporters,this game will be the come back match for him.The Oguni is the Japanese fighter was not the equal opponent to the Casimero,the match is going to held on Arena in Japan.So Oguni will have his support in the Japan and Casimero had their support in all the country.So the support also available in the Japan.Oguni just had 19 games win,but Casimero had 33wins and he is from the phillipines.The arm power of Casimero was high and his KO percentage is above 60 percentage.So this game was owned by the Casimero on October.We should wait till the October for the game,mostly the game end with the KO by Casimero.

[YOSHIE]

Boxing: Casimero vs Oguni

I like boxing this time the bettor is between Casimero vs. Oguni, maybe many boxing fans want to see a new sensation will emerge in the ring, regarding Casimero's reaction to Oguni next October, I, want to see what new styles they both have, considering that Oguni hasn't been seen in a boxing ring for more or less a year, having last seen against Keita with a technical draw, I'm sure this will give boxing punters and fans a new lease on life this year.

Technically age is not an obstacle and a debate for both of them, Casimero is 34 years old and Oguni is 35 years old, this is a good adventure if they do happen next october, overall the Philippines currently has the advantage in boxing, they did really well overall, to be honest I can't help but Casimero is in a lucky position this time, when it comes to the upcoming Oguni.

[aioc]

I wonder how much money Casimero is going to receive in this fight, I'm sure it's more on money than prestige considering that the fight will be held in Japan, we all know Japanese promoters are generous when it comes to boxing promotion that is why boxers go here even to the point of defending their belt, like what Fulton did.

Casimero should be fighting for a legit World belt All his other contemporaries have title fights, but he is only holding a secondary belt which is the World Boxing Organization (WBO) global super bantamweight which is not prestigious compared to what he once hold.

[Vaculin]

I wonder why Casimero accepted this fight, This Oguni is an unknown boxer I can hardly see big fights of this Japanese fighter, he has a record of 19 wins 1 loss, and only 7 knockouts, the guy is slow and cannot be considered a power puncher
here is one of his fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdNnq7EE3o

We can understand if Casimero is coming from a loss, to take an easy fight like this but he is not, Casimero will not gain anything here while his opponent can gain a lot if Oguni upsets Casimero although its unlikley but possible.

Most likely this is just a stepping stone for him, not saying that this is an easy fight, but he needs to be active and to show that he could or should have a been given a chance to fight for the belt at his new weight class.

So if ever he wins this one, then for sure, early next year his rank will go up and most likely might be set up by his Japanese promoter to fight for a belt. Not necessarily Inoue, but it could be easily made as he is being manage by a Japanese so it could be done easily.

With Casimero's status does he need a stepping stone? If it's a warm-up fight it should be from a fighter that will give him a good challenge but he can also beat, not good for Casimero but a chance or opportunity for Oguni, nevertheless, I hope Casimero will not take it easy and he will show the dangerous form that he is known for.

His last fight against Fllipus Nghitumbwa was good but not impressive, People expected him to knock out Fllipus Nghitumbwa but he had a hard time knocking him out.

I expect Casimero to have an impressive win here the guy like what I posted is slow and easy to hit and is not a knockout puncher.

He sure does need a steppingstone in-order to fight against the champion at 122 because his current rank alone cannot lift him up to make it happen. And I don't think that this Oguni will be a good warm-up for Casimero because he is not even approved nor named to fight the winner of the Tapales vs Inoue undisputed fight and this Oguni cannot help him to climb the ranks because not to disrespect, but this Japanese boxer is way below Casimero's league.

[robelneo]

Casimero will treat it as a tune fight or preparation but for Oguni it is a big opportunity, They have their own mindset going to the fight, and honestly Casimero should not choose this kind of opponent there are bigger fish that will make his name shine after the fight, boxing experts will pick this fight as an easy fight Casimero and they expect and knew the outcome, he is relegated to second rate boxer with this kind of fight, because his last fight is not that impressive they have opted to go fo this kind of fighter.

I'm sure there's big money involved here, It has been a long time since Casimero tasted a huge paycheck and he needs to keep up to sustain himself and he'll fight as long as the price is right.

[lionheart78]

Casimero will treat it as a tune fight or preparation but for Oguni it is a big opportunity, They have their own mindset going to the fight, and honestly Casimero should not choose this kind of opponent there are bigger fish that will make his name shine after the fight, boxing experts will pick this fight as an easy fight Casimero and they expect and knew the outcome, he is relegated to second rate boxer with this kind of fight, because his last fight is not that impressive they have opted to go fo this kind of fighter.

Looking at the statistics and activity of Oguni, I also think that this is a tune-up fight for Casimero for his future career title fight.  If he knocks out the Japanese fighter, it can probably give enough impression to consider him as one of the top contenders for a title fight.  The record of Oguni simply tells that this can be a walk in the park fight for Casimero unless it ends up in the hand of the judges that may possibly give Casimero a loss (Japanese judges tend to give a biased result and always favor their fighter) but hopefully, that will not happen.

I'm sure there's big money involved here, It has been a long time since Casimero tasted a huge paycheck and he needs to keep up to sustain himself and he'll fight as long as the price is right.

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

[inthelongrun]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

[Japinat]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

I guess that will suffice instead of not having some fights this year to keep him warm while waiting for the big fight that he wanted. But I couldn't help but think why Oguni and not someone else in the Top 5 of WBC rankings because that is what he needed and not a tune-up fight-like just to stay active. This will surely not please people because Oguni is not that famous even if he was once an IBF champion.

Regardless, I'm also hoping just like you guys, that Casimero can finish this fight without having serious damages on his side so that he can have another fight somewhere in December or early January.

[Hirose UK]

Johnriel Casimero is a professional boxer who has also become a boxing star for the Philippines in international competitions or world championships.
Johnriel Casimero also said in public that he would surprise everyone of course for his country the Philippines that he would again become world champion after the WBO world bantamweight belt which he held was stripped because of a violation of the BBBofC ban.
When looking at these two boxers there is still a chance for Johnriel Casimero to beat Yukinori Oguni and make a good debut in Treasure Boxing Promotions.

[bisdak40]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

[Maslate]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

For us, it might not be that big considering that we can compare this to some fights which are undoubtedly bigger as the arena itself can say that it will be a big fight but for the Japanese people, this is somehow a big fight for them because a one of their own will fight against John Riel Casimero who is also known as an executioner of Japanese boxers.

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

[robelneo]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Knowing Casimero he'll find a way to be on top again, MP promotions lately did not give him a decent fight or a title fight something Casimero deserves, Since he was stripped of the title, he never got a title shot from prestigious boxing organizations, this fight is not a challenging fight, can you imagine if after this fight there is an offer to fight Inoue in case he unified the title and move up to Super Bantamweight.
At some point, Inoue and Casimero's paths will cross so Casimero should have decent fights now in preparation for big opponents like Inoue, I hope after he disposes of Oguni he'll get the title shot he deserves.

[Sanitough]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Knowing Casimero he'll find a way to be on top again, MP promotions lately did not give him a decent fight or a title fight something Casimero deserves, Since he was stripped of the title, he never got a title shot from prestigious boxing organizations, this fight is not a challenging fight, can you imagine if after this fight there is an offer to fight Inoue in case he unified the title and move up to Super Bantamweight.
At some point, Inoue and Casimero's paths will cross so Casimero should have decent fights now in preparation for big opponents like Inoue, I hope after he disposes of Oguni he'll get the title shot he deserves.

Fans would likely be more interested, and the fight could potentially outsell the Tapales vs. Inoue matchup, given the expected one-sided outcome of the latter. The anticipation of witnessing Inoue's victory over Tapales and Casimero's impressive performance against Oguni is building. However, these bouts might take place in the following year, possibly before the second quarter, allowing both fighters ample time to prepare.

It's important to note that Casimero's title being stripped isn't solely the fault of his promoter or anyone else. He must bear the consequences of his actions but should also remain steadfast in his pursuit of reclaiming a championship title.

[Kelvinid]

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

If this scenario were to unfold, it might be wise for Casimero to consider retirement after the fight. This matchup is essentially a tune-up fight for him, and losing at this stage could be detrimental to his career. Casimero has been carefully cultivating a strong record to position himself for a future championship bout, possibly against Inoue. Losing this fight might jeopardize that opportunity. It's clear that he cannot afford to lose, given his aspirations and the strategic path he's been taking.

[goldkingcoiner]

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight? This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

[Taskford]

They might or will hope that maybe this Oguni can pull an upset against our own Casimero even if their boxer's credentials aren't that much.

If this scenario were to unfold, it might be wise for Casimero to consider retirement after the fight. This matchup is essentially a tune-up fight for him, and losing at this stage could be detrimental to his career. Casimero has been carefully cultivating a strong record to position himself for a future championship bout, possibly against Inoue. Losing this fight might jeopardize that opportunity. It's clear that he cannot afford to lose, given his aspirations and the strategic path he's been taking.

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

[inthelongrun]

If this is true, then he should aim for the knockout because obviously when won't be judged fair in this fight because of what he did in the fast throwing some trast talks to Inoue without thinking this time would happen when he goes to Japan to fight. Well, he already has a bunch of dirty fights on his list if it turns out that way, he knows what to do but I hope it won't be like when he fought the guy in Argentina where they lost their temper and started to throw things on him after he knocks out their guy.

The Japanese fans are probably not cool with Johneriel Casimero calling their living legend a turtle. But still, Casimero is the main attraction here. He is actually promoted by a Japanese since bolting out of MP Promotions. Oguni is just a stay-busy fight but we're hoping Casimero delivers a good performance to bolster his reputation. Though Oguni was a former world champion, he quit fighting for 3 years already and then went for a return last year which ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent. At present, Oguni has been inactive for over a year now and he is fighting an active 3-division champion so this should be an easy win for Casimero.

Some are bashing Casimero's level of opponent but I'm just happy that he is making himself active. I am confident he will get his title shot next year so he better stay active and fit.

It's great to see Casimero keeping himself busy with his second fight this year. Hopefully, there's another one in store before the year concludes. While I wasn't aware that his opponent is a former champion, a glance at his record doesn't make it seem as impressive as Casimero's. Let's wait and see. I'm hoping Casimero will persist in calling out Inoue during post-fight interviews. Of course, this assumes he emerges victorious in this contest; otherwise, challenging Inoue would seem premature if he can't defeat Oguni.

Yes, at least Casimero is staying active rather than just waiting for a big fight that might make him rusty if it takes so long. Yukinori Oguni became the champion a long time ago. In 2016 he outboxed then-dangerous KO artist Yonatan Pena and took the IBF belt. Too bad though as he lost it in his first title defense.

A December return for Casimero is still possible but only if he makes an easy work on Oguni. But if Casimero sustains some cuts and spends a lot of energy in this fight then he needs at least a month of rest plus two months to train so that makes him only available in January of next year. Hopefully, we'll see Casimero winning easily because this is only a tune-up fight for him. 

I guess that will suffice instead of not having some fights this year to keep him warm while waiting for the big fight that he wanted. But I couldn't help but think why Oguni and not someone else in the Top 5 of WBC rankings because that is what he needed and not a tune-up fight-like just to stay active. This will surely not please people because Oguni is not that famous even if he was once an IBF champion.

Regardless, I'm also hoping just like you guys, that Casimero can finish this fight without having serious damages on his side so that he can have another fight somewhere in December or early January.

Johnreil Casimero is actually bashed a lot these days and one of the reasons behind it is the choice of his next opponent. This is only the second fight of Yukinori Oguni in 4 years and his last fight which was more than a year already ended in a draw against a mediocre opponent.

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

With regards to Casimero choosing a top 5 in the WBC rankings, I believe the target is becoming the WBO mandatory where he is more recognized just in case he is not getting the winner of Inoue-Tapales. WBO #1 Sam Goodman is already the IBF mandatory while Nery the WBO #2 has also won a WBC eliminator already so these guys are waiting for their shots at the titles. And it also means that Casimero is unofficially the real WBO #1 unless someone below overtakes his ranking. The WBA did not rank Casimero in their top 10 and it already mandated former champions Akhmadaliev and Kameda to fight with the winner being the mandatory.

[coin-investor]

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

[carlisle1]

This fight could regain his fame knowing that it has been jeopardize by some circumstances before but if he lose on this match against Oguni I don't think this is an indicator that he should resign since if he can still fight for more opponent then why not? Looking at his current health his still on his best shape so beating up his opponent still possible. But why thinking about losing? Don't forget its Casimero and he's still a great boxer with huge fighting spirit to defeat all his opponent so for sure with this match we can see a great fight here.

Against an unknown opponent? I don't think so, he needs a big name to regain his reputation and fame Even if he knocks out Oguni like we expect him to do he will just gain a win and hopefully a step toward a title fight if his promoters can do that, I don't rule out an upset but Casimero has never been knocked out, he gets hurt but he always manages to come back.

Now that he is in a new promotion he will try to impress his new promoters, but hey these are Japanese promoters so there's a possibility of an Inoue showdown in Japan they can easily set it up since the Japanese are good in negotiations.

If the price is right, there's no impossible for Inoue's handlers, but we should wait for the outcome of this fight first, then go to that
discussion after.

In terms of upset, that's always present or I mean that's always possible inside this sport, Casimero needs this win
if he's chasing for a title fight, a continuous win will allow him to hype his ranking and possible to challenge the
current champ.

[Yaunfitda]

This is just a regular fight, I do not think that there is a huge money involved it may be a decent amount at best.

With regards to money, I think he got a bigger amount received now with Treasure Boxing Promotion than with MP Promotion based on how generous he is with his friends and families. In his YouTube vlog, he built a stable on which I think cost a hefty amount then he bought a Ford Ranger for himself, i know he can afford that one but he didn't show/experience it when he was with MP Promotions.

Big name or not, I think Quadro Alas will receive a hefty amount that is stipulated in the contract.

Yes, most likely this is why he sign with the Japanese, and so far they have delivered a good fight and purse for Casimero. And I do agree that he is very active this year, I remember he had one fight in the Philippines and then this one, so it makes 2 fight a year (I forget if he had one earlier this year).

And he needs to be active as well, I mean Casimero is not getting any younger and so very active makes his power and reflex still at par with some of the big punchers at 122 lbs right now.

[Baofeng]

I am not sure what happened that warranted Casimero being stripped of his WBO world bantamweight title in 2022. He supposedly violated some British BS ban on sauna use for reducing weight?

Yes, he was caught trying to lose additional pounds thru sauna during the fight week, which is forbidden by the BBBoC. And with that he was stripped of his WBO bantamweight belt.

This is the first time I have heard of such nonsense and to be honest, I think it was very unfair. I hope to see him becoming a world champion in spite of this. Oguni is going to be an obviously tough opponent and if Casimero loses this fight it will be a huge setback to him. He almost lost to Ryo Akaho but was saved by an overturned decision, which was very lucky. I do not expect him to be just as lucky this time, should he lose.

Harsh as it may, he needs to follow the rules and obviously, members of his team didn't know that. And what makes it worst is that he was caught thru his Youtube channel. the Ryo fight was controversial, but this fight should be a make or break for him. As others have stated, tune up fight for him and so this should be an easy victory for John Riel.

[dothebeats]

Casimero is obviously a huge favorite in this fight because Oguni wasn't competitive anymore like he was been used in 2016 and older. Casimero should able to win via KO to impress the other, winning via decision isn't really good when he fight not with a strong boxer.

Although the fight will happen in Japan, but I don't think we will see an unfair judgements.

Not sure about unfair judgment, but there will surely be some form of bias from the crowd for sure. Casimero is poised to win this bout given that Oguni is older and possibly a lot weaker in terms of strength and overall speed. However, I should not jump on the gun this fast - Casimero can still be caught off-guard by the Japanese boxer. Anyway, odds will probably favor Casimero given his consecutive wins against different boxers.

[goinmerry]

At last, John Riel Casimero will now finally have a fight again and return to the ring.

He really needs more fights, even against anyone or unranked, as he's building and climbing his ranking (currently at #3 on WBO) in order to be a contender again here at 122 lbs. The goal is to be recognized and he should have an impressive win here like what he did in his debut fight at 122 against Ryo Akaho. He really needs to make sound again in this division as his previous fight against Namibias' Fillipus Nghitumbwa wasn't that impressive although he won the score at all 3 judges and was able to get an unanimous win.

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

[Darker45]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

[bittraffic]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

[Hypnosis00]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

[Jating]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

[freedomgo]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

He can do that if he wishes to but I don't think he is in a good position right now to start his journey again at 126 right from the bottom just to get ahead from Inoue so that he can have fight with him, you see, Casimero is already 35 years old and will flip another page next February and so I don't think that it will good for him to start all over again.

What should he do is fight Luis Nery to get a safe seat as a mandatory challenger when the fight of Tapales vs Inoue will be over.

[inthelongrun]

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first. 

[Ziskinberg]

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first. 

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

[Yaunfitda]

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.  

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

And that is what we are calling, a fight between two explosive fighters in Neri and Casimero, however, it seems that this might not materialized as Casimero will face another Japanese fighter. But his fight with Oguni is being viewed my many as a 'warm-up' fight.

Win-win though for either Nery and Casimero if they class, winner getting Inoue, that is if Inoue remains at super bantamweight as once he beat Tapales and unify the belts again, he might go up at 126 lbs and chance a belt. Another question is, will Inoue remain at 122 lbs if ever he had unified the belt?

[goinmerry]

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.

[carlisle1]

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

What else can he do? There is no choice but to just accept any available fight. Look at his current state now by doing so, fighting against unranked boxers with only 2 fights at 122 lbs but now currently being ranked #6 by the WBC and ranked #3 by the WBO. It means slowly but surely, the progress is good.

Don't worry about Naoya Inoue. Casimero doesn't need to rush. If Inoue moves up, then Casimero's plan to become a world champion again doesn't change. He will just go straight to his goals to have a taste again of being a champion. But if we look at the possible plan of Naoya Inoue if ever becoming a unified champion at 122, he will not move up right away at 126 and will have a series of title defense first.

Soon, Casimero and Inoue will catch up. I'm sure about that.

Soon... If fate permits them for sure, both fighters will be glad to showcase their individual talents against each other.

I like the chance that promoters will let them make a good amount of money since they've got an unfinished trash-talking
might be a good timing for both camps and the promoters to hype it up.

Though there are many options for Inoue compared to Casimero, all will be depending on how Arum will see potential
profits and advantages before he will go to risk his cash-cow.

[bittraffic]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.

[btc_angela]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is no incentive for Inoue to stay on 122 when all he wants right now is the legacy to get belts as much as possible. He wouldn't wait for someone to fight him unless its a mandatory. Having lots of belts hanging on him after retiring is the next goal for him since he is getting old. Nery might just be the last in that division and then he'll move up until he reaches 135 or maybe super lightweight.

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

[Kelvinid]

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

[Hypnosis00]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

The ball then is on Inoue's court whether to give Casimero his chance or not. The best thing that Casimero do is win this fight impressively, it might be good if it will be a knockout of the year candidate so that Inoue and his camp might consider him.

And with that, and it seems this is just a cherry pick fight for Casimero, he should win here. Otherwise, if he loses or just win in the judges scorecard, then it might he hard for him to setup a fight with Naoya as they might not be interested and it's like a low reward for them.

Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

[Maslate]

Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

This won't stop until he gets a chance to fight Inoue. He's set his sights on Inoue as he seeks a fast track to success, but Casimero's luck in this regard seems a bit uncertain, as he hasn't been able to cross paths with Inoue just yet. This is his opportunity, as they now compete in the same division—Casimero as a challenger and Inoue as the champion.

It wouldn't be unreasonable if Inoue were to put an end to the speculations surrounding their matchup by facing Casimero. It could silence Casimero in one effective way: a knockout victory. However, it's perplexing why Inoue doesn't seem interested. This lack of enthusiasm on Inoue's part raises questions and can't help but lead people to consider whether Inoue is avoiding a clash with Casimero out of fear.

[bisdak40]

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

I think Bob Arum only said that because he wanted to hype Inoue but the truth is Inoue could not break Pacman's record of the being the only boxer to achieve that fate, 8-division world champion. Inoue is just a 3-division world champion and so many big names just one or two division up of the super bantamweight division which i think are hard to defeat.

Inoue is one of Bob's cash cow at the moment so he will say whatever good things he could say when the press are around.

I just hope that Bob would let his ward fight Casimero very soon.

[rhomelmabini]

Easy win for Casimero? I won't doubt that and would love to bet if this wouldn't fall below 1.50 odds. I think I agree with what Darker45 said and he should have set his eyes on the prize that are worth it, he should have demanded for a worthy opponent instead of Oguni that's already ageing.

[Vaculin]

Prior to picking Oguni, there were two or three ranked fighters who challenged Casimero. One of them is former 118 champion Luis Nery who is ranked WBC #1, WBO #2, and IBF #7. Casimero at the moment is ranked WBO #3 and WBC #8. Maybe Casimero's team thinks that this type of fight deserves a belt which makes this a high risk with low reward. Besides, Nery is banned in Japan after being caught using illegal substances. And I doubt Casimero agrees to travel to Mexico which is also very risky IMO.

I think that's the other way around where instead, the Casimero camp is challenging Luis Nery but the latter camp didn't have an interest.

Anyway, doesn't matter anymore as Casimero just needs to take down all opponents on his way. After that, we should see a bright light on his career by having a shot to face Naoya Inoue at the WBO title or unification, if possible, if the monster wins against his counterpart champion, Tapales.

In the past Johnreil Casimero indeed talked many times about fighting Luis Nery of how he beats the Mexican. I guess nobody is ducking between them and they just went separate ways. Also, Nery was already at 122 when Casimero was still fighting at 118 as the WBO champion. Now it's just talks about challenging each other since both of them have no belts so they also know that it may not be worth it. Both fighters were also the ones mentioned as Inoue's targets in his title defense. So the real target is Inoue for the belts and the money. Nery might have a better chance of getting Inoue first since he can be named as the WBC mandatory but he is banned in Japan which means Casimero might get Inoue first. But maybe Casimero and Nery will finally fight each other down the line but for now, they need to take a belt first.  

Nery has a higher ranking than Casimero, so it's likely that he will become a mandatory challenger. However, as you mentioned, he is banned in Japan, where the fight would likely take place since Inoue is the champion. Hence, this scenario is unlikely to occur.

For those unaware of why Nery was banned in Japan, you can read the article below:
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

Regarding the situation, it might be wiser for Casimero to face Nery first. If he wins, he could then potentially go up against Inoue, even if he isn't a mandatory challenger yet. The question remains: would Inoue accept that challenge?

And that is what we are calling, a fight between two explosive fighters in Neri and Casimero, however, it seems that this might not materialized as Casimero will face another Japanese fighter. But his fight with Oguni is being viewed my many as a 'warm-up' fight.

Win-win though for either Nery and Casimero if they class, winner getting Inoue, that is if Inoue remains at super bantamweight as once he beat Tapales and unify the belts again, he might go up at 126 lbs and chance a belt. Another question is, will Inoue remain at 122 lbs if ever he had unified the belt?

If you guys have forgot, CASIMERO AGREES TO THREE-FIGHT DEAL WITH JAPANESE PROMOTERS; which is why now he is getting a Japanese boxer again instead of what we have expected as he is indeed looking forward to make his name good and lift his rankings in WBC as well. If I'm not mistaken, this will be his last fight with the said promoter and after that, we will likely see Nery vs Casimero if in case there is still time before of the any sanctioning bodies will order a mandatory fight to the unified champion.

[Iranus]

Another remarkable aspect of Casimero is his consistent taunting of Inoue, which has led people to believe in his genuine confidence in defeating an exceptionally skilled fighter. He has effectively generated interest in the fight, and now, we're eager to witness it unfold. While Inoue currently holds the championship title, there's no doubt that Casimero will present a tough challenge. His approach is distinct from the kind of competition Inoue has faced in his previous bouts.

That's why it's of utmost importance for the fight with Tapales to take place this year, as it could pave the way for another significant Inoue fight next year.

This won't stop until he gets a chance to fight Inoue. He's set his sights on Inoue as he seeks a fast track to success, but Casimero's luck in this regard seems a bit uncertain, as he hasn't been able to cross paths with Inoue just yet. This is his opportunity, as they now compete in the same division—Casimero as a challenger and Inoue as the champion.

It wouldn't be unreasonable if Inoue were to put an end to the speculations surrounding their matchup by facing Casimero. It could silence Casimero in one effective way: a knockout victory. However, it's perplexing why Inoue doesn't seem interested. This lack of enthusiasm on Inoue's part raises questions and can't help but lead people to consider whether Inoue is avoiding a clash with Casimero out of fear.

Inoue knows very well what is happening here. He knows that he is a money fight right now. And there will be a lot of people trying to fight against him. And Casimero is probably doing this because he wants to have a go at him even though he might not deserve it. I am definitely not going to say that he does not deserve the fight. It is a different conversation if he actually deserves the fight or not. But if there is a big fighter who can actually be a payday for other fighters, there will be a lot of fighters talking trash about him.

So I don’t know if he is going to take Casimero seriously or not. Maybe if Casimero wins his fight on 12th October, he will get his chance.

[bittraffic]

It is very interesting how far Inoue will get though, he mentioned something like 130 lbs, so not sure if he can go up at 135 lbs as he might lose every advantage he had, like speed and power and timing.

Maybe there is some incentives for him to stay and fight guys like Nery, Casimero and clean up the division. But the problem is that if you have all the belts in one division, each and every governing body will have to fight their mandatories and it's going to be hard for that. So once he unify, it's either he has to follow the mandatory of at least one of the belts he hold, or drop some of it and just retain what he wanted. Just like the approach of 140 lbs unified champion in Josh Taylor.

His promoter, Bob, believes that Inoue is better than Pacquiao. Therefore, they might be considering breaking Pacman's achievements to reinforce their claim. I have no doubts about Inoue's ascent, but ideally, before that happens, he should have the opportunity to face Casimero in a championship fight, with Casimero as the challenger.

I think Bob Arum only said that because he wanted to hype Inoue but the truth is Inoue could not break Pacman's record of the being the only boxer to achieve that fate, 8-division world champion. Inoue is just a 3-division world champion and so many big names just one or two division up of the super bantamweight division which i think are hard to defeat.

Inoue is one of Bob's cash cow at the moment so he will say whatever good things he could say when the press are around.

I just hope that Bob would let his ward fight Casimero very soon.

Bob had been building up Inoue for a long time, he had to go and fight outside Japan this time. One way of doing this is to move up to the usual weight of the Westerners. This will also give him money when fights are in the US. Since he had defeated Fulton, it should not also be surprising that he can carry on defeating others in that division but most likely the goal is not just to make money but also belts.

I'm not sure if Pacman had unified a lot of belts but Inoue made it to that level as well.

[Oasisman]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

That's completely unnecessary for Casimero to call someone who's an elite fighter. I know he just wants attention to have a shot at fighting Inoue before when he said it, up until now that motive remains the same but Casimero's chances are becoming slimmer as time passes by. I've seen him practicing punching the bag, but he's out of shape, his belly became bigger and he looks like demotivated. Saw it from a random boxing reel in Facebook. Well, I hope he's gonna come back win a championship and have a chance to fight Inoue.

[Fatunad]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

That's completely unnecessary for Casimero to call someone who's an elite fighter. I know he just wants attention to have a shot at fighting Inoue before when he said it, up until now that motive remains the same but Casimero's chances are becoming slimmer as time passes by. I've seen him practicing punching the bag, but he's out of shape, his belly became bigger and he looks like demotivated. Saw it from a random boxing reel in Facebook. Well, I hope he's gonna come back win a championship and have a chance to fight Inoue.

I do even some videos on flexing out on buying a new Ford Ranger Raptor https://www.facebook.com/61550570060077/videos/283324144403551
Sometimes im already that get pissed or got irritated on how this man calls Inoue about for a fight and made out some provocation but its true that as Inoue is really getting up those belts then the chances
for these two fighters to have that clash is getting more slimmer and slimmer. I dont know on why people do still call for this fight considering that if we do try to compare about their rankings then i would
say that Casimero would really be still needing to climb up to reach out Inoue. If ever there would be some consideration which this fight could be set up but it would really be that totally
depending into its promoter though because this is something the key which would really be making this fight happen but for now lets see on how he would be handling out Oguni on this upcoming October.

[lionheart78]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is an update about Casimero's age streamed by this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMjQeKVyAs&t=126s, showing  John Riel Casimero's brother Jason Casimero stated that they cheated on John Riel Casimero's age just to be qualified as a professional boxer while he is talking with the camp of Casimero on his live streaming channel called Quadro Alas It's my boy. John Riel Casimero's brother stated that John Riel Casimero started boxing at the age of 16, they cheated and added 2 years just to make Casimero qualified to be a professional boxer.  So it means Casimero is only 32 years old and is only 2 years older than Inoue.

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

[Jating]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is an update about Casimero's age streamed by this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMjQeKVyAs&t=126s, showing  John Riel Casimero's brother Jason Casimero stated that they cheated on John Riel Casimero's age just to be qualified as a professional boxer while he is talking with the camp of Casimero on his live streaming channel called Quadro Alas It's my boy. John Riel Casimero's brother stated that John Riel Casimero started boxing at the age of 16, they cheated and added 2 years just to make Casimero qualified to be a professional boxer.  So it means Casimero is only 32 years old and is only 2 years older than Inoue.

Ok, so another bold revelation from their camp. It must have been very hard though for the Casimero's early on their lives as it seems that John Riel cheated so that he can box and most likely earn money for his family back then. And probably that is the reason why he is really tough not just physical, but mentally as well because of his early upbringing.

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

Yes, this is also what the majority is saying here. Casimero needs to give us an impressive win, by knockout so that he can secure at least a shot for the title. Otherwise if this is just another low and so-so performance, then he might not get his chance against Inoue.

[carlisle1]

Casimero is getting old. He's about to face the beginning of the end of his career and yet he's still facing no-names. He's been calling out quality fighters but gets the scraps. Whether deserving or not, this must largely be due to the opportunity he negligently lost. And now he's provided with another opponent who can't offer much. Oguni is an old and inactive boxer who doesn't have a professional boxing resume he can boast of. Casimero should win in a powerful way.

Casimero fighting against an unknown fighter who he knows is no match is just somewhat of a fixed fight for him to be tuned up. He needs to move up because by the time Inoue unifies the belt in the SBW, he'd be gone up to 126.

Casimero is getting old and got no belt that will make Inoue interested in fighting for. If he is still interested in fighting the baddest monster, he'd have to be 126lbs with the belt from WBA and IBF for him to get a shot with Inoue.

Inoue didn't mention that he would move up weight classes once he unifies the belt. In fact, his team has stated that he will have more fights before considering a move up. This situation could potentially open up an opportunity for Casimero to face him. While Casimero might be advancing in age, I believe Inoue's camp should consider giving him a chance to fight. This could help put an end to Casimero's continuous taunts towards their champion, referring to him as "Turtle."

There is an update about Casimero's age streamed by this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMjQeKVyAs&t=126s, showing  John Riel Casimero's brother Jason Casimero stated that they cheated on John Riel Casimero's age just to be qualified as a professional boxer while he is talking with the camp of Casimero on his live streaming channel called Quadro Alas It's my boy. John Riel Casimero's brother stated that John Riel Casimero started boxing at the age of 16, they cheated and added 2 years just to make Casimero qualified to be a professional boxer.  So it means Casimero is only 32 years old and is only 2 years older than Inoue.

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

[Ziskinberg]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

[Japinat]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

That will be his only choice because fighting this Oguni from Japan will not guarantee anything to make him the mandatory challenger for the undisputed champion because of the fact that you've said. It will be a wild race and yet Casimero has chosen a path that doesn't involve his rankings and so his sole choice to be selected to be one is if Naoya Inoue will choose John Riel Casimero himself, and also considering that Inoue wins his fight.

[Minor Miner]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

That will be his only choice because fighting this Oguni from Japan will not guarantee anything to make him the mandatory challenger for the undisputed champion because of the fact that you've said. It will be a wild race and yet Casimero has chosen a path that doesn't involve his rankings and so his sole choice to be selected to be one is if Naoya Inoue will choose John Riel Casimero himself, and also considering that Inoue wins his fight.

I believe that there is a reason why Casimero is actually trying to provoke Inoue to fight against him. I think he believes that if he actually takes the long path, he might not even win consistently to actually reach what he is targeting, which is in this case getting a fight against Inoue. Otherwise he would have fought other fighters. I am not talking trash about anyone. I am just saying that to fight against the best fighter you have to prove yourself first. Otherwise it does not make sense for the best fighter to fight against you. This is what my opinion is, of course, I could be wrong.

[BitcoinPanther]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

That will be his only choice because fighting this Oguni from Japan will not guarantee anything to make him the mandatory challenger for the undisputed champion because of the fact that you've said. It will be a wild race and yet Casimero has chosen a path that doesn't involve his rankings and so his sole choice to be selected to be one is if Naoya Inoue will choose John Riel Casimero himself, and also considering that Inoue wins his fight.

I believe that there is a reason why Casimero is actually trying to provoke Inoue to fight against him. I think he believes that if he actually takes the long path, he might not even win consistently to actually reach what he is targeting, which is in this case getting a fight against Inoue. Otherwise he would have fought other fighters. I am not talking trash about anyone. I am just saying that to fight against the best fighter you have to prove yourself first. Otherwise it does not make sense for the best fighter to fight against you. This is what my opinion is, of course, I could be wrong.

The provocation is to prove that Casimero can beat Inoue and to stop the so called Inoue craze.  They should have met in the ring way back years ago but it was cancelled due to the pandemic.  When the boxing resume, they should have continued that cancelled fight but Casimero's camp were surprised when Inoue were scheduled to fight agaisnt Moloney instead of Casimero.  This maybe a personal thing for Casimero since they should have been matched but Inoue's  camp had a change of heart.

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[Shamm]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

That will be his only choice because fighting this Oguni from Japan will not guarantee anything to make him the mandatory challenger for the undisputed champion because of the fact that you've said. It will be a wild race and yet Casimero has chosen a path that doesn't involve his rankings and so his sole choice to be selected to be one is if Naoya Inoue will choose John Riel Casimero himself, and also considering that Inoue wins his fight.

I believe that there is a reason why Casimero is actually trying to provoke Inoue to fight against him. I think he believes that if he actually takes the long path, he might not even win consistently to actually reach what he is targeting, which is in this case getting a fight against Inoue. Otherwise he would have fought other fighters. I am not talking trash about anyone. I am just saying that to fight against the best fighter you have to prove yourself first. Otherwise it does not make sense for the best fighter to fight against you. This is what my opinion is, of course, I could be wrong.

The provocation is to prove that Casimero can beat Inoue and to stop the so called Inoue craze.  They should have met in the ring way back years ago but it was cancelled due to the pandemic.  When the boxing resume, they should have continued that cancelled fight but Casimero's camp were surprised when Inoue were scheduled to fight agaisnt Moloney instead of Casimero.  This maybe a personal thing for Casimero since they should have been matched but Inoue's  camp had a change of heart.

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Winning in this match is like it's a ladder for casimiero to reach his target Opponent which is the monster of Japan inoue but for me casimero must don't rush for that when though he will know that he can best oguni easily but he must take this fight seriously as we all know that Oguni is one of the best fighter in their division and also cashmere must win this fight and it's better if it's came from Knockout so that the Fans will support him again.

[Jating]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

Yes, it's really up to Inoue and his manager if who they wanted to be the challenger and indeed if they are going to stay at 122 lbs for sometime before moving up. So in this case, the best thing for Casimero is just to win his fight as what we said, just like what he did in 118 lbs, he needs to knockout his opponents and maybe he will be given the chance despite not ranking higher.

Also one way it what he has done in the past, taunt Inoue specially that this fight is in Japan, maybe Inoue will be in the ring side to watch it live and if Casimero wins then he can call Inoue.

[LUCKMCFLY]

An impressive win will gain attention and a possible negotiation in terms of being a belt challenger. It's a business and for sure
if there are many interests that will come up, the fight may take place.

He needs to earn that interest from both side, fans and promoters need to see an impressive outcome to give him that opportunity
to work at Inoue's camp.

Else, he will just stay behind and will keep on trying to win his spot in terms of rankings.

Unfortunately, Oguni doesn't even rank in the top 3 of this division. A victory in this fight may only bump him up slightly in the rankings, but it's unlikely to make him a mandatory challenger since there are other boxers ranked higher who are closer to the champion.

Once Inoue defeats Tapales, he will become the unified champion. It's possible he could choose to face Casimero, even if Casimero isn't the top-ranked challenger. Such a matchup would indeed be exciting to watch.

This fight is very suitable for Casimero to shine, he is one of the best boxers and he has not given much to talk about, so perhaps this fight was organized so that Casimero has not had much action and they do not want them to be forgotten of him, so this is something that cannot be left unnoticed, in our case when we think of boxers like him, they will always be what attracts attention, whereas Oguni is a boxer who is not very renowned, or I don't know much about him. His career is an athlete who, many times, has done things that can benefit him, but here is a golden opportunity for him, because if he beats a legend like Casimero, he would be listed as one of the best in the category. The danger of this type of fight for boxers like Casimero is that if he does not start training well and hard, they can surprise him in a way that he would not like, in the case of him, he must train as hard as if he were going to fight against Inoue, because in Boxing things can happen Anyway, if Oguni has a tougher training then he can win, because nothing is Written and as I said before, a boxer wins his fight is in training, because miracles the probability of its occurrence is very low.

We all know the power that Casimero has in these cases , we cannot say less because he is a pretty good boxer, nor is it that Oguni is not good, but mostly we as fans follow other boxers but it really does not sound like Oguni to me , He is a Boxer that from what I have investigated about him, well, he falls among the most normal boxers, who want to be promoted, but I think putting a test as great as Casimero's on him is putting a fairly large ceiling on him, so as I have said nothing is impossible, and I can that this Oguni does not Make his Mouth open,  and it would even be something interesting if this boxer shows us that he has a good level of Boxing.

[Russlenat]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

[Kemarit]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

[Ziskinberg]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

[Kasabus]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

I'm also looking forward about it because I'm also waiting to see if Casimero still have the power to knock his opponent out, that fight against Ryo Akaho is not included, IMO, because that was a messed up fight. Casimero deserved that fight and deserved to celebrate at the end of the fight, but for some reasons, Akaho became an Oscar awardee because of his acting skills he showed and hence why the fight has ended much earlier.

This time, this is his chance to show that he still have that knock out power because his foe, Oguni doesn't possess anything that can truly challenge the Filipino pride. And if he still cannot knockout Oguni, I think it's too much for him to ask for a fight with Inoue. Just saying.

[harizen]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

[Kemarit]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

I agree, in 118 lbs it was different Casimero that we have seen as he put up a destruction path, beating his opponents by KO/TKO along the way.
But this time, this is 122 lbs and we can say that he is relatively unknown, and the way he introduce himself, not looking good, no highlight KO win or anything.
One is controversial ending his first fight, and the second it was a 12 round decision.
So now he needs to proved himself by winning against a not so good opponent, a cherry pick fight for him to look good and maybe he can get the attention of Inoue.

Maybe in this fight, we will finally see a KO win from him. It has been proven on his side that when a fighter moves up in weight, their power can be affected. Perhaps that's the reason why he hasn't been as destructive lately, unlike Inoue, who has been able to maintain his power and speed in the new division. I don't see any reason for Inoue not to fight Casimero, considering he's the best fighter. So, let's hope that Casimero continues to win and has an impressive victory.

Inoue's path to winning all the belts would be easy, as Tapales is not a top-ranked fighter. While he was a champion, he wasn't as popular as Casimero. So, I believe his reign as champion will be short-lived.

Yes, it might have a slight effect on his power, as his opponent might be used to taking bigger shots than what Casimero can throw.
But still though, it is his ticket in this weight class, he needs to win, and win impressively with a knockout so that he can have a potential date with Inoue.
And they chooses the right opponent for him, a cherry pick fight and we should see no less than a knockout.
Also, Casimero shouldn't take his opponent lightly, he also needs to train harder and think of the future as a motivation for this fight.

[carlisle1]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

Agree to that, better to focus on each fight that will offer to him, keep winning and let those fights hype his name and his rankings.

For now, the schedule fight is important to continue his chase in earning a title. Coming from the scratch is not an easy task for him
but there's nothing he can do aside from making his way to become a good challenger.

I like that last statement. If destiny dictates, there's no one who can stop the possibility of facing Inoue inside the ring,
let the future state itself.

[Yaunfitda]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Yes, he started at a unranked fighter as obviously this is a new division for him. But after 2 fights, he is slowly breaking into the top 5 or top 100.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

So consistency is the key although we wanted for to him impressively. I guess we are used to seeing this man knocking people out. But he should focus one fight at a time, this time is opponent doesn't have a good record so hopefully he can win and it could be a added bonus if that is a big knockout. And then after that, maybe he can chase Inoue. If no Inoue then just continue with fighting good boxers like Nery.

[Distinctin]

So consistency is the key although we wanted for to him impressively. I guess we are used to seeing this man knocking people out. But he should focus one fight at a time, this time is opponent doesn't have a good record so hopefully he can win and it could be a added bonus if that is a big knockout. And then after that, maybe he can chase Inoue. If no Inoue then just continue with fighting good boxers like Nery.

Consistency is no longer a problem for him, as he hasn't lost a fight in the current division he is competing in. Yes, as long as he has more fights and keeps winning, his ranking will likely improve, and he might become a mandatory challenger. Hopefully, by that time, Inoue is still in the same division so they can face each other, putting an end to the speculation.

This fight isn't what we were expecting. Personally, I thought Casimero would face a tougher opponent, but he ended up fighting a less active boxer. The only positive aspect of this fight is that it will be held in Japan. If Casimero continues to taunt Inoue, fans may start calling for a showdown between them, which would be beneficial for both fighters and us as fans, as it's a matchup we want to see.

[mirakal]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

[Sanitough]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

Casimero's journey ahead is very tough. If he wants to become a champion, he needs to beat Inoue in the current division. I'm no longer considering the outcome of Inoue vs. Tapales, as I'm certain Inoue will easily win. Now, I'm more interested in how Casimero and Inoue will negotiate once the former becomes a mandatory challenger.

I read an article stating that Inoue would stay in this division for a while after beating Tapales. That statement alone gives hope to us fans that one day we will see our anticipated fight, which is Casimero vs. Inoue. This one should be a war.

[mirakal]

I think with regards to giving Casimero a chance, Casimero must prove himself a bit more on this weight division.  He must secure impressive wins against his upcoming opponent to impress the boxing council and possibly consider him as the top contender of that division.

He certainly needs to prove everything in this division because it's not the same anymore when he was still at 118 where he dominated each and every opponent he faced.
This time, it's new to him and the people, even the bodies are still not that convinced of what he did hence why he got a much lower rank because if these bodies have thought the opposite then Casimero should've started in the Top 10 like the other boxers who made a name in their previous weight classes.

At least currently, the effort is being rewarded from being unranked before to ranked.

Casimero just needs to keep on winning to be eligible as a contender regardless of who os the opponent, ranked or unranked, popular or not. Losing should not even be an option as losing one of his future fight from now will just result from starting again at the bottom. Who knows that he will soon face Inoue but actually it doesn't matter as the goal is to become a champion again. Don't chase Inoue and just follow what on his timeline. If they will meet, they will meet.

We don't know anything about Casimero's plans at all and we're just assuming that he's still looking forward to fight with Inoue soon but what if you're right? That right now, he's just taking things in his own pace so that he can be a champion again because there is a huge chance that Inoue will climb again once his mission at 122 is already finished and once that happens, he can dominate the division on his own because the biggest stumbling block is gone.

Casimero's journey ahead is very tough. If he wants to become a champion, he needs to beat Inoue in the current division. I'm no longer considering the outcome of Inoue vs. Tapales, as I'm certain Inoue will easily win. Now, I'm more interested in how Casimero and Inoue will negotiate once the former becomes a mandatory challenger.

I read an article stating that Inoue would stay in this division for a while after beating Tapales. That statement alone gives hope to us fans that one day we will see our anticipated fight, which is Casimero vs. Inoue. This one should be a war.

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

[goinmerry]

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

[carlisle1]

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

That last point on your statement is true, small chance still a chance and even by stats Tapales is by far from Inoue we can't conclude
it yet if a lucky punch will give him the win.

Though we are hi-jacking the topic, it's good to see if Tapales will do everything and bring his name up, whether he loses or he makes an
upset, it will be interesting to see his progress and his fighting dedications.

Let see if what will be the turn of events for both Tapales and Casimero who will going to have their respective fights.

[Fundamentals Of]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

[goinmerry]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

Regarding my recent checking at some major boxing odds preview sites, the odds for this fight is not available yet.

There's no doubt that John Riel Casimero will be the favorite here being ranked #10 by The Ring, ranked #6 by the WBC, and ranked #3 by the WBO while on the other hand, Yukinori Oguni isn't even ringing a bell for being a strong contender and just staying at his comfort zone for long.

Should be another win for Casimero as it really should be no matter what. Losing against a not even consider a strong contender does mean that says goodbye on his quest of becoming a world title holder again. Easy road to being ranked facing unpopular boxers on the way. Good progress indeed to become close on being a title contender.

https://www.proboxingodds.com/
https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/John-Riel-Casimero-1319
https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-oguni/

[Yaunfitda]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

[Hypnosis00]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Most of the time, if the fight isn't that popular, the odds are not released early. Since this isn't a championship fight, we can expect the odds to come out a week or a day before the fight, so just be patient as we'll eventually be able to place our bets at the right time. However, I'm expecting that Casimero will be the heavy favorite, so there's likely no value in the moneyline. Perhaps betting on a knockout win within a specific round range could be an interesting option.

[inthelongrun]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

Regarding my recent checking at some major boxing odds preview sites, the odds for this fight is not available yet.

There's no doubt that John Riel Casimero will be the favorite here being ranked #10 by The Ring, ranked #6 by the WBC, and ranked #3 by the WBO while on the other hand, Yukinori Oguni isn't even ringing a bell for being a strong contender and just staying at his comfort zone for long.

Should be another win for Casimero as it really should be no matter what. Losing against a not even consider a strong contender does mean that says goodbye on his quest of becoming a world title holder again. Easy road to being ranked facing unpopular boxers on the way. Good progress indeed to become close on being a title contender.

https://www.proboxingodds.com/
https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/John-Riel-Casimero-1319
https://box.live/fights/casimero-vs-oguni/

Maybe we can see some betting odds later once the date is getting nearer to its fight night. Or maybe betting odds are only available to local countries where these two fighters came from.

Yukinori Oguni was a good opponent some years ago. He is a former world champion. But he went inactive or probably made a retirement and then some years later he made a comeback but only settled to draw against a mediocre opponent. Oguni is currently more than a year inactive so this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

About Casimero's quick rise in the rankings, it is normal since he is a 3-division world champion and it's been a long time since he lost a fight.

[Westinhome]

Maybe we can see some betting odds later once the date is getting nearer to its fight night. Or maybe betting odds are only available to local countries where these two fighters came from.

Yukinori Oguni was a good opponent some years ago. He is a former world champion. But he went inactive or probably made a retirement and then some years later he made a comeback but only settled to draw against a mediocre opponent. Oguni is currently more than a year inactive so this should be an easy fight for Casimero.

About Casimero's quick rise in the rankings, it is normal since he is a 3-division world champion and it's been a long time since he lost a fight.

The betting odds will be most released on the match night,it also may easy available to the fighters countries.Because this is not the factor of the Casimero and Oguni,this odds was common to all the players and favours the fighters countries.Yukinori Oguni record was the unique one,he won 21/25 matches till his 35 years,many people saying Oguni going to retire from the boxing.

But it’s hard one,still at his retirement age,Japanese player Oguni had good record of 8 KO and 13 win by decision.In his complete record,the draw matches and loss are each two game.The record of 4/25 was very hardest part,Casimero need to very cautious even after one year gap for the Oguni.

[freedomgo]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

But for us, we're lucky because our sports bookies might not want to pass in this because everything is a business for them. And I agree with you right there mate, ML won't be that juicy and so it's only possible for us to find good odds in other options.

[Russlenat]

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

That last point on your statement is true, small chance still a chance and even by stats Tapales is by far from Inoue we can't conclude
it yet if a lucky punch will give him the win.

Though we are hi-jacking the topic, it's good to see if Tapales will do everything and bring his name up, whether he loses or he makes an
upset, it will be interesting to see his progress and his fighting dedications.

Let see if what will be the turn of events for both Tapales and Casimero who will going to have their respective fights.

He may have a very slim chance in this fight but that is certainly not a reason for him to give up early because we never know, upset can happen anytime and thinking that it's somehow possible, there's still a chance as long as he will give his very best to show the world that he wasn't just lucky on why he became a champion as he sure do worked hard for it. For me, I don't care anymore whether if he loses or not. What's more important is that he will make the Filipino's proud because he is the first Filipino boxer who will fight for the undisputed level, a feat that Pacquiao could've achieved but this is Tapales now and he is the one who made it first.

[Yatsan]

Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

Underestimating might not be the best word to describe the majority take on this fight. We are just looking at the closest possible thing to happen.

Don't get me wrong, even though I'm with Tapales to win the fight, it's still tough for me to think how can he even make an upset against Inoue. The Japanese monster is ahead of everything compared to Tapales. We can't compare Naoya Inoue to Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the one that Tapales upset why he became a champion. We can't also compare this to starting Pacquiao when he was chosen as a replacement to fight Marco Antonio Barrera. Back then, Pacquiao was already showing potential. About Tapales, he just started to become special because of the upset win and becoming a champion.

Tapales has a low chance of beating Inoue but since he's my fellow countrymen, I will put a bet on him to show support.

Unethical move by me? No, it's just that low chance still has a chance.

That last point on your statement is true, small chance still a chance and even by stats Tapales is by far from Inoue we can't conclude
it yet if a lucky punch will give him the win.

Though we are hi-jacking the topic, it's good to see if Tapales will do everything and bring his name up, whether he loses or he makes an
upset, it will be interesting to see his progress and his fighting dedications.

Let see if what will be the turn of events for both Tapales and Casimero who will going to have their respective fights.

He may have a very slim chance in this fight but that is certainly not a reason for him to give up early because we never know, upset can happen anytime and thinking that it's somehow possible, there's still a chance as long as he will give his very best to show the world that he wasn't just lucky on why he became a champion as he sure do worked hard for it. For me, I don't care anymore whether if he loses or not. What's more important is that he will make the Filipino's proud because he is the first Filipino boxer who will fight for the undisputed level, a feat that Pacquiao could've achieved but this is Tapales now and he is the one who made it first.

Anything is possible inside the box and things might get off of hand if the favored would be too confident because of his edge over the opponent. As others have mentioned  this won't be a title match, and with that preparations won't be as intense as with casimero's usual. Casimero is more dominant with power in this match up also with experience. Oguni on the other hand would be a more eager fighter for the limelight. He has a 'quiet' name on his division and for sure he knows the benefit to his career if he would win this match. This should be an enough reason for casimero to be careful and to not let his guard down. But I guess I won't bet on this one.

[yazher]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

[Kemarit]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

[Fundamentals Of]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it. There is a high possibility of a knockout.

[Questat]

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

[Ziskinberg]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

[Yamifoud]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

He is just being practical, man. Of course, money is the priority, as a boxer cannot be in the sport forever. Even some of the most popular athletes in the sport have retired early because they feel they cannot compete against younger boxers. So, Tapales needs to choose the right direction, which is to ensure that he will earn big in a fight. Besides, if he keeps fighting challengers, there's still a possibility that he would lose in the long run, or maybe he would seek bigger challenges. And this one is already in front of him; it's the biggest opportunity in his life but also the biggest gamble. So, his confidence that he can beat Inoue is what matters. He is a real warrior who is not afraid to take on big challenges.

[mirakal]

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

[Viscore]

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

Odds are not available yet because this fight isn't generating much interest. If bookies saw this as a popular fight, they would have already created betting odds. The earlier they make it available, the more bets will come in. However, in this case, the absence of odds suggests that they understand only a few will participate in betting, so they will wait until the fight is closer before making odds available.

With plenty of big fights lined up this year, this one might just be forgotten and might not attract enough viewership. However, since it's held in Japan, I believe that people from the Philippines and Japan will still be interested in watching it.

[btc_angela]

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it.

The betting odds for Casimero to win are not attractive for sure, but there's always a betting option. Just try to take a risk in the KO markets, as Casimero will surely want to impress the crowd to gain the attention of Inoue. So, a KO win here could be a great bet. You should choose which round, or consider round ranges, like every 3 rounds per range.

There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I find it very reasonable, as Casimero does not want people to think that he is losing his power when he moves up.

There is no doubt that the moneyline for Casimero won't be that attractive becuase this Oguni here, no matter how I see it, he really don't stand a chance against the Filipino pride. It's not underestimating, we're just stating some facts which will likely happen during fight.

Yes, we have seen the money line for Casimero even prior to this fight is not going to be that good. Bookies look everything before making the odds and it's obvious that the knockout ratio and the quality of opponents of Casimero is no match for Oguni.

And so, other betting options would be perfect for us to seek as I don't see this fight to end in the judge's hand. A knockout win by Casimero might have a sweet decent odds but not that yummy considering that bookies might've already thought ahead on what we're thinking. Anyway, let's wait for now because a fight like this, usually bookies will open their lines in two to three days before the fight night.

Definitely we will have to wait and see what will be the odds. This fight is next month and we are not expecting the odds to be released by crypto sports bookies very early. I reckon it will be in the last day prior to the fight that the full odds will be available to us.

[Shamm]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

[Distinctin]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

The purse is already a guaranteed amount a boxer would receive, with additional earnings coming from PPV and other advertisements, depending on the outcome of the fight. In my opinion, the style of the boxers matters a lot because most of the boxers who are KO artists attract fans significantly, as they entertain the fans. This is unlike the boxers who are boring in the ring. Additionally, a champion vs. champion matchup does not guarantee good money, especially if both boxers do not take risks by being aggressive. To be specific, I don't find the styles of Haney and Shaku entertaining, which is why they don't generate good PPV numbers.

[Maslate]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

If you're talking about Casimero vs Oguni, none of them is the champion in this division that is why I don't see someone challenging someone because this fight has been already arranged beforehand as Casimero has signed with a Japanese counterpart. That is why he got a fight with the likes of Akaho and Filipus.

But since you're replying to a discussion between Tapales and Inoue, which makes me curious by the way if whom you're referring as a challenger because both of them is a champion at 122 that is why they will fight next for the undisputed title. Casimero and Oguni is a different bout, so I think you're just confused.

[Kemarit]

Well, if that's the case then there is a big chance that we can see the fight that we have been waiting for all these years. A fight where Casimero and Inoue will finally share the same ring and make the argument end once and for all. Although, after saying that, that also means that we're truly underestimating Tapales here because we're already assuming that by then Inoue is still the champion and that Tapaes was just a mere ladder to achieve Inoue's target.

I think every boxing fan wants to see that fight happen since that was the only fight for Inoue to prove he is the real monster if he beat Casimero, it would be a great accomplishment for him since he found the last piece of the puzzle for his achievement. As for Tapales, he won't have any chance to win the fight and it would be just a waste of belts to fight Inoue right now. Maybe he needs more time until he fights Inoue but if he really wants to try his luck then it's really up to him.

Tapales probably sees an opportunity in fighting Inoue; it's the money he would make, which is bigger compared to fighting an unknown boxer who would be his challenger. He's seizing the opportunity, win or lose; he would make a decent paycheck. But if he wins via an upset, it will be life-changing for him, and he will be recognized all over the world. With that to happened, I'm sure there are more opportunities waiting for him.

.we are all know that once a champion will have a fight against challenger then he can not say that he can earn a lot of money or even he can receives a good offer cause as we all know that only few around the world will watch your fights. Unless a champion vs champion then we can say that there a lot of people want to watch cause they will know that both fighter a re champion then they will see a good fight for sure.

The purse is already a guaranteed amount a boxer would receive, with additional earnings coming from PPV and other advertisements, depending on the outcome of the fight. In my opinion, the style of the boxers matters a lot because most of the boxers who are KO artists attract fans significantly, as they entertain the fans. This is unlike the boxers who are boring in the ring. Additionally, a champion vs. champion matchup does not guarantee good money, especially if both boxers do not take risks by being aggressive. To be specific, I don't find the styles of Haney and Shaku entertaining, which is why they don't generate good PPV numbers.

Correct, they already have guaranteed money here, and they will have just to follow the governing body's rule about how much money is going to be involved. And then the two parties will have to agree who will get the lion share.
I have no doubts that Casimero is the A-side here, maybe around 60-40 split or even higher as Oguni is already way past his prime and this fight is a tune up for Casimero.
The fight is going to be held in Japan though, so perhaps Oguni will have his fans watching this fight or maybe Japanese fans in general.

[TravelMug]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it. There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I just check today, so yeah, everyone is right, fight is not listed only there are fights along the same date that is already on crypto sport bookies because they are hype or at least on higher division and obviously fighters are well known.

So I wil also wait and see what are the odds for KO here for Casimero. If I see that it's very attractive to me, then I might go for it. I'm trying to be selective of my bets but most likely I think Casimero this time will have to go for KO win to increased his chance of facing the champion next.

[Slow death]

this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

[btc_angela]

this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero. If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.

[Ziskinberg]

this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero.

Odds of 1.10 are already unattractive to me; I wouldn't consider those odds. However, I might be enticed by odds in the range of 1.25 to 1.30, especially considering Casimero's winning streak. On paper, this fight doesn't seem exciting to watch, but if we end up witnessing an action-packed bout resulting in a KO, I believe it's worth spending our time watching the fight. As a bettor, I'll make sure I can watch the match.

If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.

Not gonna happen mate.

[Russlenat]

I still can't see odds on this fight. But I am expecting Casimero to be the favorite. Oguni is not really a solid fighter that would threaten Casimero. He's not in the current rankings in his division. Although this fight will happen in Oguni's home country and that is his advantage, I don't see how Casimero would be affected. Casimero has been entering lions den in the past, going to his opponents' backyard and win. If the ML odds for Casimero isn't that low, it's a safe bet.

As far as boxing odds goes, specially if there are no hype like this one, most likely the odds are going to be put out in the last minutes. Most likely maybe a day or two on our favourite sport bookies.

But if we look at the records, it's obvious that John Riel Casimero will be the odds favorite here. And I doubt see a enticing odds on the ML. Might be better if it will be listed to look for other options like per round, or round range bet.

Other bookies might not be that interested too in listing their bout because this is just a small fight with no anything on the line and only the people who are an avid fan of boxing might know Casimero but for the others who are just interested in big fights, then this is not for them that's why some bookies might not list it as not everyone are inclined to see it.

I think they will have to list it though, I haven't seen crypto sport bookies missed a boxing schedule fight.
Usually their book makers have this schedules already and might calculating the possible odds already.
But as what others have said, if it is a small fight, they might delay the listing to possible the date of the fight itself.
And if we are looking to bet on this fight, then we can't do anything but to wait. I'm not sure though if there is some notification from sports casinos that a new fight betting odds have been listed?

I'm just waiting. I am not excited to place a bet on this but I'm just curious as to the odds. If they are attractive then I will be betting. Casimero is clearly at an advantage in this fight. But if this means the odds are too low for him being the favorite, then I'd rather not bet. Perhaps if the odds that this fight would not go the distance is a bit high then I will be betting on it. There is a high possibility of a knockout.

I just check today, so yeah, everyone is right, fight is not listed only there are fights along the same date that is already on crypto sport bookies because they are hype or at least on higher division and obviously fighters are well known.

So I wil also wait and see what are the odds for KO here for Casimero. If I see that it's very attractive to me, then I might go for it. I'm trying to be selective of my bets but most likely I think Casimero this time will have to go for KO win to increased his chance of facing the champion next.

Let's just expect that the fight's odds will be released in just a few days before the fight because that is the most cases mainly in this bout where it isn't that big and it's not even a championship fight as well, so the bookies will not give it any priorities as there is no need for them to list the bout this early. Let's just be patient

What is important now is that Casimero getting something instead of waiting some miracle as he wasn't having some noises in the past months. A fight is a fight and this is good enough to keep him warm even if it's not what we imagined.

[Vaculin]

this is a fight in which on paper the casimero has a big advantage, in my opinion and when the odds are released, something that maybe will only happen from the end of this month, it may be announced before, but I very much doubt that will happen. but when they publish the odds, the casino will probably be at 1.20 or 1.30 at most if they win. and I see that many people already expect this, and for that reason they will look for other markets like the ko market and looking at casimero's performance, we can see that the guy had a lot of wins for ko, so the bookmakers will also put low odds on the victory market for ko in favor of casimero

we will probably see 1.30 to 1.40 odds for a casimero win by ko. if I saw a big odd like over 1.50 then I would bet, but something below 1.50 I won't risk making a bet because it's not profitable in the long term, ideal for me would be if I saw an odd of 1.80 for Casemiro to win by ko , that would indeed be worth betting on, but I need to see how many fights oguni lost to ko, as there is still 1 month left for the fight, it is still early for many predictions to start appearing on many websites and youtube channels that I follow.

I don't know, but maybe the best odds to be offered to us to 1.10 ML in favor of Casimero here. I don't know we will see lower odds that than. And I think 1.20 or even 1.30 is already a far stretch as it is already a big offering ML for Casimero.

Again, Oguni records doesn't speak well while Casimero is known to be very aggressive and has a powerful punch. I might be again, interested on what will be the odds for a KO for Casimero.

Odds of 1.10 are already unattractive to me; I wouldn't consider those odds. However, I might be enticed by odds in the range of 1.25 to 1.30, especially considering Casimero's winning streak. On paper, this fight doesn't seem exciting to watch, but if we end up witnessing an action-packed bout resulting in a KO, I believe it's worth spending our time watching the fight. As a bettor, I'll make sure I can watch the match.

If it is higher than 1.70 then I might go with it as my bet instead of the lower odds of ML for him.

Not gonna happen mate.

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

[bisdak40]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

[inthelongrun]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yes, there might be more betting options once the fight is getting nearer. But I understand the odds difference. Oguni's only advantage here is he is fighting in front of his countrymen although the promotion itself is by Casimero's promoter who happens to be Japanese.

If only the fight venue is not in Japan, I would probably risk on Casimero. The biggest upsets happen when the huge underdogs land a huge power punch on their opponents like what happened to Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The problem with Oguni though is he doesn't possess that power punch so an upset is very unlikely.

[carlisle1]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

[Natalim]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

Casimero and Inoue will likely win their respective fights, so it's okay to discuss in advance the possible future clash between Casimero and Inoue. It may not be a unification fight, but Inoue is staking his belt on his fight against Casimero because the latter is very unpredictable. He has been an underdog in the past and has surprised the champion, so I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Inoue, as he is a very capable boxer.

[btc_angela]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

[carlisle1]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

Casimero and Inoue will likely win their respective fights, so it's okay to discuss in advance the possible future clash between Casimero and Inoue. It may not be a unification fight, but Inoue is staking his belt on his fight against Casimero because the latter is very unpredictable. He has been an underdog in the past and has surprised the champion, so I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Inoue, as he is a very capable boxer.

Ah okay, if ever that Inoue's camp will allow this challenge for sure many fans from both sides will be happy, it's being discussed
before when they almost meet each other from their past division.

Though that event didn't push thru as Inoue pick the rematch against Donaire first while Casimero got stripped as he didn't meet the weight
that supposedly for his fight defending his belt.

If everything takes place and both win the upcoming fight and media hypes brings the talk into the table, promoters might push it to happen.

[bisdak40]

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

Yeah, the gym is very helpful for those youngsters who want to be boxers as they have now a facility where they can practice for free and if they are serious enough and become a prodigy then that could alleviate them from poverty as most of the kids that are training in Casimero's gym came from poor families. Good thing that Quadro Alas provided some of the kids that have potential the equipment like running shoes and shorts for training.

[Maslate]

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

Yeah, the gym is very helpful for those youngsters who want to be boxers as they have now a facility where they can practice for free and if they are serious enough and become a prodigy then that could alleviate them from poverty as most of the kids that are training in Casimero's gym came from poor families. Good thing that Quadro Alas provided some of the kids that have potential the equipment like running shoes and shorts for training.

This is the kind of sport that we should also focus on, a sport in which we can dominate the world, similar to what Manny Pacquiao has achieved. I believe we have the talent, but we lack the necessary facilities. So, these popular boxers who are already earning a decent income are a blessing, especially if they are helping potential boxers in the future. Eventually, we will have a Filipino champion again, and I hope Casimero will be able to return to the top before announcing his retirement.

[Natalim]

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

Yeah, the gym is very helpful for those youngsters who want to be boxers as they have now a facility where they can practice for free and if they are serious enough and become a prodigy then that could alleviate them from poverty as most of the kids that are training in Casimero's gym came from poor families. Good thing that Quadro Alas provided some of the kids that have potential the equipment like running shoes and shorts for training.

This is the kind of sport that we should also focus on, a sport in which we can dominate the world, similar to what Manny Pacquiao has achieved. I believe we have the talent, but we lack the necessary facilities. So, these popular boxers who are already earning a decent income are a blessing, especially if they are helping potential boxers in the future. Eventually, we will have a Filipino champion again, and I hope Casimero will be able to return to the top before announcing his retirement.

No question about the genuine intention to help young boxers; however, the lack of facilities is a significant hindrance, preventing some from pursuing their dreams. With this action, it will inspire the young ones to continue chasing their dreams. I believe that when more and more talents focus on boxing, we might see another Manny Pacquiao in the future.

To be honest, I want to see people united again while watching boxing. Right now, there hasn't been a popular boxer that most Filipinos follow every time he has a fight. It could be Casimero, but his character in the ring is not the same as Pacman's, so he does not easily gain support.

[Vaculin]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yes, there might be more betting options once the fight is getting nearer. But I understand the odds difference. Oguni's only advantage here is he is fighting in front of his countrymen although the promotion itself is by Casimero's promoter who happens to be Japanese.

If only the fight venue is not in Japan, I would probably risk on Casimero. The biggest upsets happen when the huge underdogs land a huge power punch on their opponents like what happened to Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The problem with Oguni though is he doesn't possess that power punch so an upset is very unlikely.

I don't see it as an advantage though because he may be fighting in front of his own crowd but his situation is not easy either because he will be carrying that burden which will turn into pressure as bricks piling up in his head as the Japanese people will be expecting to see something from him and deliver a revenge for those Japanese boxer who was defeated by Casimero. That is a huge challenge that he is into and I don't even see him winning the fight and be that they wanted.

[Japinat]

Oh that's good to hear that he has his own gym now, I mean that's how you give back to your community. Of course he can used it personally to train if he has incoming fights. But it will also give other younga and upcoming boxers to train there as it could have a good facility. Until those gym that Manny used when he was still in the beginning of his career. Although it could have help Filipino boxers to get used to obscured boxing arena's and fight, but still good if there will be some gyms that they can start with par with many gyms in the world. No odds yet though, so we will have to wait for a bit and see what options we had that will likely give us a good return or profits betting on John Riel Casimero here.

Yeah, the gym is very helpful for those youngsters who want to be boxers as they have now a facility where they can practice for free and if they are serious enough and become a prodigy then that could alleviate them from poverty as most of the kids that are training in Casimero's gym came from poor families. Good thing that Quadro Alas provided some of the kids that have potential the equipment like running shoes and shorts for training.

This is the kind of sport that we should also focus on, a sport in which we can dominate the world, similar to what Manny Pacquiao has achieved. I believe we have the talent, but we lack the necessary facilities. So, these popular boxers who are already earning a decent income are a blessing, especially if they are helping potential boxers in the future. Eventually, we will have a Filipino champion again, and I hope Casimero will be able to return to the top before announcing his retirement.

No question about the genuine intention to help young boxers; however, the lack of facilities is a significant hindrance, preventing some from pursuing their dreams. With this action, it will inspire the young ones to continue chasing their dreams. I believe that when more and more talents focus on boxing, we might see another Manny Pacquiao in the future.

To be honest, I want to see people united again while watching boxing. Right now, there hasn't been a popular boxer that most Filipinos follow every time he has a fight. It could be Casimero, but his character in the ring is not the same as Pacman's, so he does not easily gain support.

And he is not really that courageous like Pacquiao who always seeks a good match up even if people are already looking at the opposite side, still he charges towards them like he doesn't care at all and will instead give his best towards his own preparation so that he will go inside the ring ready, he may be the winner or defeated, the important thing for him is that he tried and did his best. Afterwards, he will have his own time to bounce back after that loss, and knowing Pacquiao, he always have many reasons to stay determined.

[Hypnosis00]

And he is not really that courageous like Pacquiao who always seeks a good match up even if people are already looking at the opposite side, still he charges towards them like he doesn't care at all and will instead give his best towards his own preparation so that he will go inside the ring ready, he may be the winner or defeated, the important thing for him is that he tried and did his best. Afterwards, he will have his own time to bounce back after that loss, and knowing Pacquiao, he always have many reasons to stay determined.

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

[yazher]

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

Too bad because this guy can really fight everyone in his weight division and hasn't been really taken a hard loss in his career and that means, he really able to have some fair fight with the current best boxer in their weight division. I hope he will be given a strong opponent to fight after he finishes cleanly against Oguni because this won't be easy since he is fighting a Japanese fighter once again.

[Kelvinid]

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

Too bad because this guy can really fight everyone in his weight division and hasn't been really taken a hard loss in his career and that means, he really able to have some fair fight with the current best boxer in their weight division. I hope he will be given a strong opponent to fight after he finishes cleanly against Oguni because this won't be easy since he is fighting a Japanese fighter once again.

He needs to ensure that he knocks out his opponent so there will be no more biasness when it comes to decisions from the judges. Team Casimero should understand that, even though those are just rumors, he cannot gamble on that because his future relies on this fight. If he loses against a fighter who is not popular, then there's no reason for him to proceed and challenge the best in the division.

[ultrloa]

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

Too bad because this guy can really fight everyone in his weight division and hasn't been really taken a hard loss in his career and that means, he really able to have some fair fight with the current best boxer in their weight division. I hope he will be given a strong opponent to fight after he finishes cleanly against Oguni because this won't be easy since he is fighting a Japanese fighter once again.

He needs to ensure that he knocks out his opponent so there will be no more biasness when it comes to decisions from the judges. Team Casimero should understand that, even though those are just rumors, he cannot gamble on that because his future relies on this fight. If he loses against a fighter who is not popular, then there's no reason for him to proceed and challenge the best in the division.

He's career has been ruined to certain factor and it seems there are forces stopping him to get a good fight. So this is best opportunity for him to show that he cannot be stop by those envious guys around and show that he can knock out his opponent. This match is a must win for him since this might be a deciding factor if he continue to get high caliber matcher or he's career totally go down. So lets hope for the best since we still want to see him fight against Inoue although there's slim chance that this fight might gonna happen.

[Kelvinid]

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

Too bad because this guy can really fight everyone in his weight division and hasn't been really taken a hard loss in his career and that means, he really able to have some fair fight with the current best boxer in their weight division. I hope he will be given a strong opponent to fight after he finishes cleanly against Oguni because this won't be easy since he is fighting a Japanese fighter once again.

He needs to ensure that he knocks out his opponent so there will be no more biasness when it comes to decisions from the judges. Team Casimero should understand that, even though those are just rumors, he cannot gamble on that because his future relies on this fight. If he loses against a fighter who is not popular, then there's no reason for him to proceed and challenge the best in the division.

He's career has been ruined to certain factor and it seems there are forces stopping him to get a good fight. So this is best opportunity for him to show that he cannot be stop by those envious guys around and show that he can knock out his opponent. This match is a must win for him since this might be a deciding factor if he continue to get high caliber matcher or he's career totally go down. So lets hope for the best since we still want to see him fight against Inoue although there's slim chance that this fight might gonna happen.

It was his wrong decision that ruined his career, as he violated the rules just to qualify for the weight requirement. Unfortunately, he was caught, so now he is starting from the beginning in the new division. He isn't a champion anymore, but he still has the skills of a boxer because he hasn't lost a fight since he won the championship. So, until now, people are still hoping that Inoue will fight him so that, once and for all, people will stop thinking that Inoue is dodging Casimero.

[inthelongrun]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yes, there might be more betting options once the fight is getting nearer. But I understand the odds difference. Oguni's only advantage here is he is fighting in front of his countrymen although the promotion itself is by Casimero's promoter who happens to be Japanese.

If only the fight venue is not in Japan, I would probably risk on Casimero. The biggest upsets happen when the huge underdogs land a huge power punch on their opponents like what happened to Mike Tyson against Buster Douglas. The problem with Oguni though is he doesn't possess that power punch so an upset is very unlikely.

I don't see it as an advantage though because he may be fighting in front of his own crowd but his situation is not easy either because he will be carrying that burden which will turn into pressure as bricks piling up in his head as the Japanese people will be expecting to see something from him and deliver a revenge for those Japanese boxer who was defeated by Casimero. That is a huge challenge that he is into and I don't even see him winning the fight and be that they wanted.

Oguni's chances of winning are really very slim since most of the factors if not all favor the visiting fighter who happens to be a former 3-division world champion. Nonetheless, I still consider fighting at home to be an advantage. There will be pressure to win but that also means he needs to give everything he is capable of in order to not let down his countrymen audience. Although this sport is one of the regular events in their country and we've seen upsets before where their home fighters lost they still give huge applause and appreciation to the visiting fighter.

So hopefully after this fight, Casimero gets his shot at the winner of Inoue-Tapales which is expected to happen in December this year.

[Yamifoud]

Oguni's chances of winning are really very slim since most of the factors if not all favor the visiting fighter who happens to be a former 3-division world champion. Nonetheless, I still consider fighting at home to be an advantage. There will be pressure to win but that also means he needs to give everything he is capable of in order to not let down his countrymen audience. Although this sport is one of the regular events in their country and we've seen upsets before where their home fighters lost they still give huge applause and appreciation to the visiting fighter.

I also hope that Oguni would be more inspired to fight and believe he could beat Casimero because if that happens, the fight won't be boring. Casimero loves to fight toe to toe, so we should expect Oguni to engage in an exciting battle. In such a scenario, we may not even need the judges anymore, as the fight will likely end in a KO.

So hopefully after this fight, Casimero gets his shot at the winner of Inoue-Tapales which is expected to happen in December this year.

If he wins, there will be plenty of time to prepare for Inoue if the latter chooses Casimero as his challenger in a championship fight. However, if Inoue selects a mandatory challenger, I believe Casimero's chances are very slim.

[btc_angela]

Oguni's chances of winning are really very slim since most of the factors if not all favor the visiting fighter who happens to be a former 3-division world champion. Nonetheless, I still consider fighting at home to be an advantage. There will be pressure to win but that also means he needs to give everything he is capable of in order to not let down his countrymen audience. Although this sport is one of the regular events in their country and we've seen upsets before where their home fighters lost they still give huge applause and appreciation to the visiting fighter.

I also hope that Oguni would be more inspired to fight and believe he could beat Casimero because if that happens, the fight won't be boring. Casimero loves to fight toe to toe, so we should expect Oguni to engage in an exciting battle. In such a scenario, we may not even need the judges anymore, as the fight will likely end in a KO.

So hopefully after this fight, Casimero gets his shot at the winner of Inoue-Tapales which is expected to happen in December this year.

If he wins, there will be plenty of time to prepare for Inoue if the latter chooses Casimero as his challenger in a championship fight. However, if Inoue selects a mandatory challenger, I believe Casimero's chances are very slim.

Yeah, but in front of his home crowd, I think Oguni will give everything he got and not just quit and show Casimero that he can still fight. And for Casimero, he shouldn't take this fight lightly as well.

Even if Oguni doesn't have a good record and probably in the downturn on his career, Casimero should train very hard and the best is to look for a KO win here. He needs to impressed any governing body so that he will be rank higher after this win and maybe put him into a championship fight next whoever wins in the Tapales vs Inoue unification fight.

[mirakal]

And he is not really that courageous like Pacquiao who always seeks a good match up even if people are already looking at the opposite side, still he charges towards them like he doesn't care at all and will instead give his best towards his own preparation so that he will go inside the ring ready, he may be the winner or defeated, the important thing for him is that he tried and did his best. Afterwards, he will have his own time to bounce back after that loss, and knowing Pacquiao, he always have many reasons to stay determined.

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

That is if he can do that job successfully, I don't mean to disrespect but look at them and compare what they have done in the past years. Inoue evolved to a much dangerous monster while Casimero is still figuring out what to do to become a champion, other than that, his power seems to go down when he climbed 122 because up until now, we haven't saw the Casimero that we have known before.

[carlisle1]

And he is not really that courageous like Pacquiao who always seeks a good match up even if people are already looking at the opposite side, still he charges towards them like he doesn't care at all and will instead give his best towards his own preparation so that he will go inside the ring ready, he may be the winner or defeated, the important thing for him is that he tried and did his best. Afterwards, he will have his own time to bounce back after that loss, and knowing Pacquiao, he always have many reasons to stay determined.

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

That is if he can do that job successfully, I don't mean to disrespect but look at them and compare what they have done in the past years. Inoue evolved to a much dangerous monster while Casimero is still figuring out what to do to become a champion, other than that, his power seems to go down when he climbed 122 because up until now, we haven't saw the Casimero that we have known before.

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

[Hirose UK]

Oguni's chances of winning are really very slim since most of the factors if not all favor the visiting fighter who happens to be a former 3-division world champion. Nonetheless, I still consider fighting at home to be an advantage. There will be pressure to win but that also means he needs to give everything he is capable of in order to not let down his countrymen audience. Although this sport is one of the regular events in their country and we've seen upsets before where their home fighters lost they still give huge applause and appreciation to the visiting fighter.

I also hope that Oguni would be more inspired to fight and believe he could beat Casimero because if that happens, the fight won't be boring. Casimero loves to fight toe to toe, so we should expect Oguni to engage in an exciting battle. In such a scenario, we may not even need the judges anymore, as the fight will likely end in a KO.

This fight is very important for both of them so that a fierce fight will definitely be presented later it just that of the two Casimero has more dominant advantages such as more mature fighting experience and he has also held more than just one title several times so there a chance for Casimero to beat Oguni.
No one can predict how the fight will go whether it will last until the final round or end by knockout because Oguni also said that he was prepared and would give Casimero a surprise.

So hopefully after this fight, Casimero gets his shot at the winner of Inoue-Tapales which is expected to happen in December this year.

If he wins, there will be plenty of time to prepare for Inoue if the latter chooses Casimero as his challenger in a championship fight. However, if Inoue selects a mandatory challenger, I believe Casimero's chances are very slim.

Casimero really can't wait to meet and fight Naoya Inoue and that the reason why he is trying to move up in class and have a chance to fight Naoya Inoue the WBC and WBO champion in the Batam Super class.
The decision is also up to Naoya Inoue whether he will accept Casimero challenge or not but if this challenge is accepted there will be quite a hot and spectacular title fight.

[bisdak40]

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

[Natalim]

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

If it were only about the money, he could earn a decent amount. However, as a boxer, it's about achieving something significant before retirement. Just imagine if he could beat Inoue; that would elevate his name to the ranks of the greatest boxers in the lower divisions and open up opportunities for even bigger fights. I believe that if Inoue agrees to fight Casimero, he might ask the promoter to include a rematch clause in case he loses, giving him a chance to reclaim his title.

[Hypnosis00]

Definitely true. He wants to fight the best, but it seems he hasn't had the opportunities he desires. It has been a while since he became a champion, so he is very eager to regain that status. He's into a big challenge if he's given the opportunity because he needs to beat Inoue to become a champion again. Perhaps there's a right time for him, a reward for his patience. If he beats Inoue, given the fight will happen, he will become a very popular boxer.

Too bad because this guy can really fight everyone in his weight division and hasn't been really taken a hard loss in his career and that means, he really able to have some fair fight with the current best boxer in their weight division. I hope he will be given a strong opponent to fight after he finishes cleanly against Oguni because this won't be easy since he is fighting a Japanese fighter once again.

A strong opponent isn't enough; he wants to face the strongest, and there's no one else but the winner of Inoue vs. Tapales, which I believe Inoue is likely to win. Inoue should give Casimero a chance to fight him, as that would undoubtedly excite the crowd. Most of Inoue's fights aren't very entertaining, as they tend to be one-sided. So, dancing with Casimero in the ring could add an element of unpredictability.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Casimero ML @ 1.10 is quite high and it's somehow unrealistic, so I don't think that the bookies will list it like that knowing Casimero's odds in his past fights are more than that even if the fight still looks the same just like this as Casimero still have the upper hand.

So yes, it's somewhere 1.30 to 1.40 in favor of Casimero. Those odds will be worth it already as I don't really see this Oguni as a threat in Casimero's streak. Aside from that, I'll be watching for some options while the fight is getting near.

I'm sure that as the fight goes near, there are many options/markets in the bookies and i'm contemplating on betting for Casimero to win by knockout as he is so serious now on his training and the good about his training is that he won't go anywhere else as he has built his own gym in his own backyard, this way he could save a lot of money and no more nightlife for sure.

Yeah, I saw that in socmed that he established his own gym, I'm in the impression that he will take things seriously and will try to hype his
name in this division, knowing that Inoue was already up.

If by chance that Inoue will give some time to stay even he managed to unify all the belts after the possible upcoming fight against Tapales, it would be
the best timing for Casimero in case fans will bring the talk using SocMed to make things possible between HIm and Inoue.

for now, let the fight roll and bring some decent profit to his fans. I mean Casimero needs to win, that's all!

Casimero and Inoue will likely win their respective fights, so it's okay to discuss in advance the possible future clash between Casimero and Inoue. It may not be a unification fight, but Inoue is staking his belt on his fight against Casimero because the latter is very unpredictable. He has been an underdog in the past and has surprised the champion, so I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Inoue, as he is a very capable boxer.

I think just like you, it could be that those results happen and they can have the best results, because basically I don't believe that Inoue Kle will pass through Tapalñes, although as I have always said, everything is possible in boxing, for that reason it is what I I say that boxing can give surprises, just seeing the result of Spence vs Crawford because it is something that no one expected, but of course we all know the level of the Japanese and without detracting from what Tapales does, but he is more proale than gne Inoue, you can see that he can do it, now Csimero's fight is the same, we all know that Casimero is a favorite, that he can make a difference because what he can achieve may be different, however we must think about something, that he is a boxer that they can surprise him, it is even very likely that it happens, so the training of this boxer must be above the one he must face, I am one of those who think that if he can achieve it, because I want to see the fight between Casimero vs Inoue .

I like to get ahead of these fights, I think many things can be done, I could think that the boxers have that fight in mind, whether one of them wins or loses, I think that fight should happen, so that Inoue does want to be one of them. The best have to beat the best in this category, and I am very sure that he can give him that plea, in fact one of the boxers who wanted me to welcome Inoue was that one, but well the events happened like this and well nothing to do, now things are going the way they are, I think that these boxers must think that they do not have it easy, that a boxer who has just increased the category is already handling it and that is something that can be very strong for those who have always dominated This category, and it is also somewhat shocking, however I stick to the talent, to the genius of an Inoue who does not neglect his talent , the Japanese can be seen to train Day and Night, that is why they are his results.

[carlisle1]

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

If it were only about the money, he could earn a decent amount. However, as a boxer, it's about achieving something significant before retirement. Just imagine if he could beat Inoue; that would elevate his name to the ranks of the greatest boxers in the lower divisions and open up opportunities for even bigger fights. I believe that if Inoue agrees to fight Casimero, he might ask the promoter to include a rematch clause in case he loses, giving him a chance to reclaim his title.

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

[Distinctin]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

[avp2306]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

[coin-investor]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

[Jating]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

Perhaps he might be in the borderline of losing his prime years already at age 34 years old. So everything depends on his this fight, I mean if he looks sharp and win by knockout, then we might say that he can still fight and pull that trigger.

But if he can't and then won by a boring 12 rounds decision which also happens in his last fight in Manila, maybe he was already on the decline and he can't do anything if ever he will have to face Inoue in the future. So let's see how his performance against Oguni before we can make our conclusions.

[Sanitough]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.

I believe the current promoter is not doing well. Since leaving MP Promotion, he hasn't been able to secure great fights. I think the solution is to return to having good fights in the future. Who knows, he might have a chance to fight Inoue if MP Promotion can negotiate a good deal with Inoue's camp. This could potentially happen if he continues to win. At his current age of 34, he needs to be selective with his fights, as 34 years old is no longer considered young.

Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

As I mentioned, the promoter still plays a significant role in making big fights happen.

[btc_angela]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.

I believe the current promoter is not doing well. Since leaving MP Promotion, he hasn't been able to secure great fights. I think the solution is to return to having good fights in the future. Who knows, he might have a chance to fight Inoue if MP Promotion can negotiate a good deal with Inoue's camp. This could potentially happen if he continues to win. At his current age of 34, he needs to be selective with his fights, as 34 years old is no longer considered young.

Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

As I mentioned, the promoter still plays a significant role in making big fights happen.

And most likely this is the reason for Casimero to bolted out of MP promotions and move to a Japanese promoter? So that in the future, maybe he can secure a fight with the Japanese monster.

Or maybe as per reported before, Casimero wanted to be his own boss, even as far as going back to the Philippines when MP's Sean Gibbons advise him to stay in the US after his win against Rigo.

And most likely there is a blame game between the two, when Casimero failed to make 118 lbs 2x and was never able to fight Butler.

[avp2306]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

But his current situation makes him hard to get title matches. Maybe if he will go back to MP promotions he can get those big matches that he want as the management says that they can give that to Casimero if he want to go back and the only condition they need is to say sorry to them. But I think its hard for Casimero to do it since he's like he surrender to them and eat his own pride just to get those matches.

But if he really want  there fight against Inoue will happen he need a solid promotions to backed up him and maybe if MP promotions handle Casimero maybe they can set some good contracts to make this match happen.

[mirakal]

Following your argument, it's true that after Inoue unifies all the belt from the previous division and manages to un-strip the current
champ from this new division, he gains lots of hypes and confidence.

While with Casimero, after being un-strip due to regulation, he's still trying to find that momentum to earn the position of being a title challenger.

They've got different position as of now, and we don't know if Casimero will have that opportunity to meet Inoue inside the ring.

I'm following Casimero's YouTube vlog and it seems that he is just taunting Inoue to fight but he is not so keen if the fight will happen or not, I mean he also got his own fight and make money out of it, the Inoue fight will just be a bonus of his career if they meet one day in the square ring fighting.

Casimero is not getting younger but he has his own money-making schemes like endorsement deals and business outside of boxing so I think if he can't fight Inoue that would be okay for him.

If it were only about the money, he could earn a decent amount. However, as a boxer, it's about achieving something significant before retirement. Just imagine if he could beat Inoue; that would elevate his name to the ranks of the greatest boxers in the lower divisions and open up opportunities for even bigger fights. I believe that if Inoue agrees to fight Casimero, he might ask the promoter to include a rematch clause in case he loses, giving him a chance to reclaim his title.

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

And if Inoue will not secure a rematch clause against Casimero, then we already know why and that is because they are not viewing Casimero as a threat. We cannot blame them if they will choose that but in that case, they should be careful because anything can happen because if ever Casimero upsets him. Then I don't think he's in the right page to call for a rematch because Casimero is not obliged to give that to him, unless Casimero wanted that as well.

[freedomgo]

I agree in that part, Inoue will place that rematch claw to make sure that he will have that chance to regain his belts in case
Casimero upset him.

And also, in terms of career, beating Inoue is something that will be remembered trough out your career. Imagine the hypes that it will create.

So if Casimero will have that opportunity, it's better to leave everything that may prevent him from making it happen
and try to push for the fight to meet Inoue inside the ring.

Definitely, because if Casimero does not choose to fight him, his popularity will drop significantly. And I'm sure that if Casimero were to win, it would be by KO since Inoue is very aggressive. So, it would be a significant boost to his career. But honestly, what worries me more is whether the fight will really happen.

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

[Kemarit]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

But his current situation makes him hard to get title matches. Maybe if he will go back to MP promotions he can get those big matches that he want as the management says that they can give that to Casimero if he want to go back and the only condition they need is to say sorry to them. But I think its hard for Casimero to do it since he's like he surrender to them and eat his own pride just to get those matches.

But if he really want  there fight against Inoue will happen he need a solid promotions to backed up him and maybe if MP promotions handle Casimero maybe they can set some good contracts to make this match happen.

I don't think that Casimero will go back to MP promotions, the damage has been done between two parties and maybe as long as Sean Gibbons is with Manny, I doubt that he will re-sign with MP.
And it seems that he has move forward already with his Japanese promoter, had fights held in Manila and now he will have a Japanese fighter in front of him.
So he has move on with his career and as what we have been saying, this fight is going to be the deal breaker for him.
He needs to win impressively so that he will send the message across that he is still one force to reckon in this division.
His Japanese promoter are taking it easy, so this might be good for John Riel although he is not getting any younger though.

[harizen]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

[Jating]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

But his strategy is to win every fight and win it by knockout. Meaning it should be impressive that the boxing community might think that he will have same chance against the Monster. And if he wins by knockout, then for sure, the first thing that he will call is Inoue. But Naoya will have to deal with Tapales for unification.

[coin-investor]

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

He can continue mentioning Inoue if he beats and knocks out Oguni his last fight is not good if he mentions Inoue after his last fight people will not believe that he can beat Inoue he needs to level up his game and prove that he has what it takes to beat Inoue and maybe Inoue's promoter will notice it and finally arrange a match, with how Inoue perform and reputation he is only going to pick boxers who deserves like a champion like himself or with a good rank in the 4 boxing organization

It's Casimero who needs Inoue more than Inoue needs Casimero, Inoue can just ignore Casimero because he is hungry to conquer new weight classes and titles.

[Baofeng]

Casimero doesn't have any control of the situation already, he is no longer the champion. Perhaps the only reason is that he can't keep his mouth from mentioning Inoue's name and that's why people are still very intrigue and interest on whether he will fight Inoue or not.

He can continue mentioning Inoue if he beats and knocks out Oguni his last fight is not good if he mentions Inoue after his last fight people will not believe that he can beat Inoue he needs to level up his game and prove that he has what it takes to beat Inoue and maybe Inoue's promoter will notice it and finally arrange a match, with how Inoue perform and reputation he is only going to pick boxers who deserves like a champion like himself or with a good rank in the 4 boxing organization

It's Casimero who needs Inoue more than Inoue needs Casimero, Inoue can just ignore Casimero because he is hungry to conquer new weight classes and titles.

True, he can mention Inoue's name all he want, but he can't knockout Oguni here, I doubt that Inoue's team are going to be interested even if Casimero has a Japanese promoter.

And as much as we really love Casimero, he first 2 fights are not that impressive in the super bantamweight. So it will be a big disappointment if he can't beat Oguni impressively. He will just be another another boxer below Inoue and we are not sure if he will get his chance again to become a champion. Inoue will probably go and hunt for the next title in higher weight class and not be bothered by not fighting Casimero.

[Japinat]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

We cannot really blame them for thinking about it, I mean they are just thinking what they think is best for him that is why they wanted somebody else and not this Oguni because this fight will not help him in his case and becaus Casimero himself haven't said either that he is already done chasing towards Inoue and will instead take his own pace.

So, it's quite normal and somewhat understandable if they, the fans, will still assume the same scenario that Casimero is still interested against Inoue.

[carlisle1]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

We cannot really blame them for thinking about it, I mean they are just thinking what they think is best for him that is why they wanted somebody else and not this Oguni because this fight will not help him in his case and because Casimero himself haven't said either that he is already done chasing towards Inoue and will instead take his own pace.

So, it's quite normal and somewhat understandable if they, the fans, will still assume the same scenario that Casimero is still interested against Inoue.

I agree with you, fans still hoping that chances for these two fighters to meet inside the ring is still possible, though
we can't speak for both of them, but we can always presume that it might take place.

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

[harizen]

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

He might get there someday since Casimero is now ranked by most boxing councils.

Another win against Oguni, especially if that's an impressive one will boost again his ranking, and now close to being a title contender again.

And no need for those fans to be worried since there's no plan for Inoue to move up if he wins against Tapales, at least "for now". Adding to that, if Tapales won instead and upset The Monster, Casimero would now be close to facing Inoue much more. But that was too early to think.

[serjent05]

Casimero is aging fighter so chances for this fight to happen is so slim since he doesn't anything hold to get convince to fight Casimero. But if Casimero will get a championship belt where Inoue camp is interested to get then maybe we can see their match up to happen so he really need to win against Oguni and get win on more bigger matches to have good chance to provoke  Inoue and make this fans dream fight to happen.

Casimero is 34 years old his last fight was not good I'm not saying that he is past his prime but he needs to have impressive fights to have good fights that are worth title contention, there are unpredicted that happen in boxing we just never know if Inoue's management decided to talk to Inoue's management to have a title fight before Inoue moved up of course this will happen after he beats Tapales.
Inoue and Casimero both have Japanese managers and promotions so there's a possibility that this could happen, if Casimero knocks Oguni out Japanese boxing could demand Inoue to step in for revenge.

I heard that Casimero had cheated his age when he was 16 declaring he is 18 just to get into professional boxing.  So from that information, Casimero is only 32 so he is some years away from being past his prime and I agree that Casimero needs an impressive win in his upcoming fight so that the boxing council will find him worthy of the title shot.

About Casimero knocking out Oguni, looking at the record, he got 2 losses and both of them were KO so there is a high chance that Casimero might get the victory through KO.

[coin-investor]

I heard that Casimero had cheated his age when he was 16 declaring he is 18 just to get into professional boxing.  So from that information, Casimero is only 32 so he is some years away from being past his prime and I agree that Casimero needs an impressive win in his upcoming fight so that the boxing council will find him worthy of the title shot.

Did they correct it? On the internet, he is already 34 years old but if it's true that his real age is only 32 years then all of his potential opponents should know that they are fighting a Casimero that is 2 years younger, it works to Casimero's advantage if his opponents thinks he is old but his body is not.

About Casimero knocking out Oguni, looking at the record, he got 2 losses and both of them were KO so there is a high chance that Casimero might get the victory through KO.

Casimero should go for a knockout, his last win against Fillipus Nghitumbwa was not impressive considering that it was held in front of his countryman, and interest in Inoue's fight will heat up again if comes out with an impressive win.

[Distinctin]

Casimero should go for a knockout, his last win against Fillipus Nghitumbwa was not impressive considering that it was held in front of his countryman, and interest in Inoue's fight will heat up again if comes out with an impressive win.

Beating a KO artist with 11 wins, all by KO, before the fight isn't impressive? I think your standards are too high. Casimero won a tough battle, and what's important is that he won via unanimous decision. Perhaps at that time, Fillipus Nghitumbwa was underestimated, but his record indicates he's a volume puncher, and he was undefeated at that time. If a KO comes, that's great, but Casimero's primary goal was to secure the win. Most likely, a KO could happen if Oguni tried to avoid leaving the fight in the hands of the judges.

Casimero vs. Nery could be next; who knows? After that, he might become a mandatory challenger for Inoue. Let's trust the process, one step at a time. When we don't expect too much from Casimero, he may surprise us by delivering a good win.

[AmoreJaz]

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

He might get there someday since Casimero is now ranked by most boxing councils.

Another win against Oguni, especially if that's an impressive one will boost again his ranking, and now close to being a title contender again.

And no need for those fans to be worried since there's no plan for Inoue to move up if he wins against Tapales, at least "for now". Adding to that, if Tapales won instead and upset The Monster, Casimero would now be close to facing Inoue much more. But that was too early to think.

yeah, i guess it is more on inoue winning over tapales here. but casimero should continue what he is doing, take each fight and win. and maybe his path to inoue will be faster. because if there will be controversy regarding his weight again, his actual fight will be pushing thru and delayed again. so he always needs to be prepared for the upcoming fight and get that belt, if there's any.
i know, a lot are looking forward to see the inoue vs casimero here. but casimero should wake up his mind and conquer each and every fight he is in.
btw, casimero's current promoter, Ito is a japanese. so if he is really up to facing inoue, i believe his promoter can make it happen. that is, if he already beats all those boxers before reaching inoue's level.

[Maslate]

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

He might get there someday since Casimero is now ranked by most boxing councils.

Another win against Oguni, especially if that's an impressive one will boost again his ranking, and now close to being a title contender again.

And no need for those fans to be worried since there's no plan for Inoue to move up if he wins against Tapales, at least "for now". Adding to that, if Tapales won instead and upset The Monster, Casimero would now be close to facing Inoue much more. But that was too early to think.

yeah, i guess it is more on inoue winning over tapales here. but casimero should continue what he is doing, take each fight and win. and maybe his path to inoue will be faster. because if there will be controversy regarding his weight again, his actual fight will be pushing thru and delayed again. so he always needs to be prepared for the upcoming fight and get that belt, if there's any.
i know, a lot are looking forward to see the inoue vs casimero here. but casimero should wake up his mind and conquer each and every fight he is in.

I believe Casimero is putting in the effort to stay active and win all his fights. However, this year, he hasn't faced many quality opponents. This is only his second fight of the year, and it might be his last, so he needs to end the year with another significant win. Perhaps next year, he'll have the opportunity to face top-ranked super bantamweight fighters.

As for Inoue vs. Casimero, it's unlikely to happen this year, especially if Inoue beats Tapales. There's a chance Inoue might decide to move on and not honor his commitment to stay in the division for long. This would leave Casimero in a chasing mode.

[mirakal]

For now, Oguni is the one which Casimero needs to fight and win against. After that we will wait for any update for his next opponent
hopefully if ever, it isn't Inoue yet but someone who is also close to a belt challenger.

He might get there someday since Casimero is now ranked by most boxing councils.

Another win against Oguni, especially if that's an impressive one will boost again his ranking, and now close to being a title contender again.

And no need for those fans to be worried since there's no plan for Inoue to move up if he wins against Tapales, at least "for now". Adding to that, if Tapales won instead and upset The Monster, Casimero would now be close to facing Inoue much more. But that was too early to think.

Casimero just needed to be consistent in winning his future fights including this bout so that he will move, even if it's just a decision, the important thing is that he will win. But if ever he can do a knockout result, then he should do it in this fight so that people will again get excited and will start calling for a fight, we never know, something might happen that we have already waited for a long time now.

If ever Tapales wins, he will have more chances. I'd say that he should fight Tapales first so that if he can win, Inoue himself will come for him. No need to call him as Casimero will be a target as he will be the new belt holder.

[BitcoinPanther]

Same here, it's kind of late already since Casimero is still fighting to have a decent rank in this weight class and on the other hand, Naoya Inoue is already on his way unifying all the belts against Tapales. After that, we're still unsure if Inoue will still remain in this division if he already achieved his goal as the undisputed champion because there is also that other chance that Inoue will climb again.

I don't know why others are having that as a problem.

Casimero is fighting to get back in the champion list, not to chase Inoue or what. It doesn't matter anymore if Inoue will climb up to the next division if he wins against Tapales in their unification fight. Casimero just needs to follow his own timeline and win as much as possible in all of his next fights until he is in a title match regardless of who will be his opponent.

I agree when Casimero  go up in weight, Inoue was still on the 118 lbs.  So the reason why Casimero go up in 122 lbs is not about chasing Inoue but when Inoue moved up to the same division, Casimero started to target Inoue again which looks like he is chasing Inoue for a fight.

If it is destined that he will face Inoue soon, then so be it. His career is not all about facing Inoue in the first place. I know it's really exciting to watch the face-off between Inoue and Casimero but Quadro Alas can move forward even without fighting Inoue.

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

[Maslate]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

[Finestream]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

[Hirose UK]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero will do anything to be able to meet and fight against Inoue in the Batam super class and later after the fight between Casimero vs Oguni is finished it is very likely that there will be a direct open challenge that will be conveyed to Inoue side.
Everyone is supporting and calling for a fight between these two boxers and of course it is not only Inoue who is in the spotlight as a hot fighter but Casimero will also experience the same thing as Inoue.

I really can't wait for the challenge given by Casimero and Inoue accepts the challenge.
I'm sure this fight will also make a lot of money so Inoue will definitely accept and be interested in fighting Casimero at super batam class.

[lienfaye]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

Even before, Casimero is eager to fight Inoue and it became a hype that many fans are looking forward for this to push through. Inoue is a monster and a champion so fighting him can make Casimero's name popular among other boxers. But the question is, do he stand a chance to win? For now, he needs to prove himself by winning through KO since his opponent is not someone who can bring him into the limelight.

[inthelongrun]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

But imagine if Johnreil Casimero gets knocked out hard by Naoya Inoue in their fight? Casimero's taunting or even his lifestyle created a lot of haters even to his own countrymen so he will most likely get bashed a lot if he loses badly. But hopefully, Casimero is well-composed if the worst-case scenario happens. Because I am really expecting their fight to happen next year unless Tapales scores an upset this December. Inoue's handlers already said that they would stay in the division if ever he becomes undisputed and named Casimero and Luis Nery as the targeted opponents. Hopefully, it will be Casimero in the US. Nery is banned in Japan so Casimero has the edge if Inoue wants to defend his undisputed belts in front of his countrymen.

[carlisle1]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

But imagine if Johnreil Casimero gets knocked out hard by Naoya Inoue in their fight? Casimero's taunting or even his lifestyle created a lot of haters even to his own countrymen so he will most likely get bashed a lot if he loses badly. But hopefully, Casimero is well-composed if the worst-case scenario happens. Because I am really expecting their fight to happen next year unless Tapales scores an upset this December. Inoue's handlers already said that they would stay in the division if ever he becomes undisputed and named Casimero and Luis Nery as the targeted opponents. Hopefully, it will be Casimero in the US. Nery is banned in Japan so Casimero has the edge if Inoue wants to defend his undisputed belts in front of his countrymen.

If such a plan will be followed and Casimero will also win his upcoming fight, I think that opportunity will be good for Casimero,
Inoue is more comfortable playing at home and with Nery's case, it would be fit for Casimero to take the challenge,

A good way to settle whatever it is between Inoue and Casimero, they will meet and showcase their individual talent and show the fans
who's better between them.

[ultrloa]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

But imagine if Johnreil Casimero gets knocked out hard by Naoya Inoue in their fight? Casimero's taunting or even his lifestyle created a lot of haters even to his own countrymen so he will most likely get bashed a lot if he loses badly. But hopefully, Casimero is well-composed if the worst-case scenario happens. Because I am really expecting their fight to happen next year unless Tapales scores an upset this December. Inoue's handlers already said that they would stay in the division if ever he becomes undisputed and named Casimero and Luis Nery as the targeted opponents. Hopefully, it will be Casimero in the US. Nery is banned in Japan so Casimero has the edge if Inoue wants to defend his undisputed belts in front of his countrymen.

If Casimero became a mandatory challenger of Inoue this fight will happen but if there's nothing like that will exist then maybe we cannot see this fight to happen. Also maybe Inoue's camp is just waiting for Casimero to be out of his prime so that he can easily dispatch this guy and continue to build his legacy. If he really want to fight then maybe this one happened already with no distractions or other things stopping it. I also don't think Inoue will fight outside in japan since he always make sure that he has a advantage in this fight especially playing at home.

[btc_angela]

I agree if they are destined to fight, then they will have their chance to face each other.  It is that Casimero's action is too obvious that he is frustrated to fight Inoue as soon as possible, or it is just some gimmick so that he can gain some attention since Inoue is one of the hottest boxer today.

Both avenues can lead to a faster Casimero vs. Inoue fight. If fans continue to call for the fight as Casimero taunts Inoue, they may play a significant role in pushing for this matchup. Additionally, Casimero is taking the right approach by continuing to fight and improve his ranking. Perhaps Inoue will consider facing Casimero once he becomes the undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division.

Casimero has been consistent in taunting Inoue, but the fight has yet to materialize. Inoue recognizes that the matchup is considered a significant one, even though Casimero is not currently a champion. The hype generated by Casimero has reached a large number of fans, and interestingly, there are even Filipinos who don't believe Casimero would win due to his attitude. So, his strategy to gain attention has proven to be very effective.

But imagine if Johnreil Casimero gets knocked out hard by Naoya Inoue in their fight? Casimero's taunting or even his lifestyle created a lot of haters even to his own countrymen so he will most likely get bashed a lot if he loses badly. But hopefully, Casimero is well-composed if the worst-case scenario happens. Because I am really expecting their fight to happen next year unless Tapales scores an upset this December. Inoue's handlers already said that they would stay in the division if ever he becomes undisputed and named Casimero and Luis Nery as the targeted opponents. Hopefully, it will be Casimero in the US. Nery is banned in Japan so Casimero has the edge if Inoue wants to defend his undisputed belts in front of his countrymen.

It will really be bad for the image of Casimero if he gets knockout by Naoya Inoue. However, we have seen great fighters losing to Inoue so at least Casimero gets his chance against Inoue (if ever they will fight).

Yes, I would also like to see Inoue at least stay in this division for good and fight not just Casimero but other contenders as well like Luis Nery so that it can really cemented his legacy at 122 lbs before moving to another weight class that he wants to conquer.

[Natalim]

It will really be bad for the image of Casimero if he gets knockout by Naoya Inoue. However, we have seen great fighters losing to Inoue so at least Casimero gets his chance against Inoue (if ever they will fight).

Yes, I would also like to see Inoue at least stay in this division for good and fight not just Casimero but other contenders as well like Luis Nery so that it can really cemented his legacy at 122 lbs before moving to another weight class that he wants to conquer.

This situation could imply one thing: Casimero's journey might face obstacles. His popularity largely stems from his winning streak, and there's ongoing anticipation that he'll eventually face Inoue. While the majority believes Casimero would lose, it's worth noting that Casimero has been unpredictable in the past and has triumphed as an underdog. So, it wouldn't be surprising if he managed to defeat Inoue, who is expected to be the heavy favorite.

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

[Russlenat]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

[Questat]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

I believe that's quite evident. Even Filipino fans don't see Tapales as the favorite to beat Inoue. Inoue is currently in his prime, and his dominance in the ring, with most of his fights ending in knockouts, sets him apart as a special boxer. Tapales deserves appreciation for his courage in facing Inoue without fearing the loss of his belts. He truly embodies the spirit of a warrior.

Just imagine, if he loses both of his belts in this fight, he'll essentially be starting over again. That's how much is at stake for him in this bout.

[carlisle1]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

Not to bring Tapales behind but yes if it's Casimero who have that opportunity to fight Inoue, surely there is more interest not just with
pinoy fans but also those who knew Casimero.

The fighting capabilities of Casimero might have a better chance compared to what Tapales can offer, and same with you I might also be betting for
Casimero and spare some money to add up with the support for him, though not with KO, but just to win the fight.

[arwin100]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

Not to bring Tapales behind but yes if it's Casimero who have that opportunity to fight Inoue, surely there is more interest not just with
pinoy fans but also those who knew Casimero.

The fighting capabilities of Casimero might have a better chance compared to what Tapales can offer, and same with you I might also be betting for
Casimero and spare some money to add up with the support for him, though not with KO, but just to win the fight.

Even the japanese fans ask the fight to happen since they are also been hype for the possible match up but the camp of Inoue and other forces of evil stop to make this fight to happen. To many fans still discuss about this match but Inoue still not showing some interest and want to climb up or chase more belts, so for that this will make Casimero less on his priority. For now lets watch if Tapales can give a good fight here since if he defeat Inoue maybe we can see a different story here.

[Maslate]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

Not to bring Tapales behind but yes if it's Casimero who have that opportunity to fight Inoue, surely there is more interest not just with
pinoy fans but also those who knew Casimero.

The fighting capabilities of Casimero might have a better chance compared to what Tapales can offer, and same with you I might also be betting for
Casimero and spare some money to add up with the support for him, though not with KO, but just to win the fight.

Even the japanese fans ask the fight to happen since they are also been hype for the possible match up but the camp of Inoue and other forces of evil stop to make this fight to happen. To many fans still discuss about this match but Inoue still not showing some interest and want to climb up or chase more belts, so for that this will make Casimero less on his priority. For now lets watch if Tapales can give a good fight here since if he defeat Inoue maybe we can see a different story here.

That wasn't the exact statement made by Inoue's camp. If I recall correctly, they mentioned that Inoue intends to stay in the super bantamweight division for a while after securing all the belts. This statement opens up opportunities for challengers to face Inoue, and we hope that Casimero can be one of those challengers. Unfortunately, when I checked the rankings, Casimero was only in the top 3. To increase his chances, he needs to win more fights and make a more impressive showing. Who knows, Inoue might consider giving him a chance in the future.

[carlisle1]

Have you noticed that the names Casimero and Inoue are still frequently discussed? It appears they are considered among the best fighters in their division.

We have many Filipino fans here, and despite Tapales being a champion, we still believe that Casimero is the better fighter, which is why we'd love to see him fight Inoue. Personally, I'm not very confident that Tapales could beat Inoue. However, if it's Casimero who gets the chance to face Inoue, it would truly excite me. I'd even be willing to bet on Casimero winning via KO, even if the odds of that happening are slim.

Not to bring Tapales behind but yes if it's Casimero who have that opportunity to fight Inoue, surely there is more interest not just with
pinoy fans but also those who knew Casimero.

The fighting capabilities of Casimero might have a better chance compared to what Tapales can offer, and same with you I might also be betting for
Casimero and spare some money to add up with the support for him, though not with KO, but just to win the fight.

Even the japanese fans ask the fight to happen since they are also been hype for the possible match up but the camp of Inoue and other forces of evil stop to make this fight to happen. To many fans still discuss about this match but Inoue still not showing some interest and want to climb up or chase more belts, so for that this will make Casimero less on his priority. For now lets watch if Tapales can give a good fight here since if he defeat Inoue maybe we can see a different story here.

You are right, even there are also Japanese fans who show an interest in a possible matchup between Inoue and Casimero
there are still factors that prevent it to happen, either promoters of handlers don't see it as worthy or whatever the reason behind.

In the case of Tapales, we never know what fate he has as no one expects him to win his belts, an unknown challenger to many who upset the
current champ.

Maybe by chance he might upset Inoue as well. No one can conclude the outcome of this upcoming fight till we hear the announcer dictate the
name of the winner.

[bisdak40]

Casimero training update:

Casimero's promoter have sent to Ormoc City where the latter lives two high level sparring partner as the training has intensified since the fight will be in less than a month from now. Gauging on the video, Casimero is almost there, he hits very hard and that hook if touches Oguni;s chin, i think he would fall to the canvas.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEtMFMt210&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

[Vaculin]

Casimero training update:

Casimero's promoter have sent to Ormoc City where the latter lives two high level sparring partner as the training has intensified since the fight will be in less than a month from now. Gauging on the video, Casimero is almost there, he hits very hard and that hook if touches Oguni;s chin, i think he would fall to the canvas.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEtMFMt210&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Thanks for sharing his training video. There's no doubt about Casimero's power, and I'm sure he keeps improving every day. His timing is really good; he doesn't throw a lot of punches, but his counterpunches are very dangerous. It's great to see him training hard for this fight. Despite Oguni not being as popular as him, he still didn't underestimate him. I think he really wants to prove the doubters wrong and win this by KO.

[Kelvinid]

Casimero training update:

Casimero's promoter have sent to Ormoc City where the latter lives two high level sparring partner as the training has intensified since the fight will be in less than a month from now. Gauging on the video, Casimero is almost there, he hits very hard and that hook if touches Oguni;s chin, i think he would fall to the canvas.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEtMFMt210&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Thanks for sharing his training video. There's no doubt about Casimero's power, and I'm sure he keeps improving every day. His timing is really good; he doesn't throw a lot of punches, but his counterpunches are very dangerous. It's great to see him training hard for this fight. Despite Oguni not being as popular as him, he still didn't underestimate him. I think he really wants to prove the doubters wrong and win this by KO.

I also saw a video on Facebook about his trainer, who is Japanese, feeling the power of Casimero even while wearing protective equipment for his body. Casimero and Inoue have different styles of boxing, but both are effective in their own way, so it's really interesting to see which method will prevail.

I apologize for diverting the discussion, but it seems that despite Inoue and Casimero having their respective fights, we keep steering the conversation towards Inoue vs. Casimero because it's more interesting to watch now.

[Yaunfitda]

Casimero training update:

Casimero's promoter have sent to Ormoc City where the latter lives two high level sparring partner as the training has intensified since the fight will be in less than a month from now. Gauging on the video, Casimero is almost there, he hits very hard and that hook if touches Oguni;s chin, i think he would fall to the canvas.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEtMFMt210&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Thanks for sharing his training video. There's no doubt about Casimero's power, and I'm sure he keeps improving every day. His timing is really good; he doesn't throw a lot of punches, but his counterpunches are very dangerous. It's great to see him training hard for this fight. Despite Oguni not being as popular as him, he still didn't underestimate him. I think he really wants to prove the doubters wrong and win this by KO.

Yes, it seems that Casimero is in great shape right now, and it is really sparring?

I mean the two are throwing bombs against each other and there's no one to stop them. I guess I'm used to watch sparring that they didn't put 100% in training, and it the trainer sees enough or at least the sparring partner is hurt, they will blow their whistle and stop the fight.

So there's no underestimating from the camp of Casimero against Oguni, and leaving no stones unturn.

[Jating]

Casimero training update:

Casimero's promoter have sent to Ormoc City where the latter lives two high level sparring partner as the training has intensified since the fight will be in less than a month from now. Gauging on the video, Casimero is almost there, he hits very hard and that hook if touches Oguni;s chin, i think he would fall to the canvas.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eEtMFMt210&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Thanks for sharing his training video. There's no doubt about Casimero's power, and I'm sure he keeps improving every day. His timing is really good; he doesn't throw a lot of punches, but his counterpunches are very dangerous. It's great to see him training hard for this fight. Despite Oguni not being as popular as him, he still didn't underestimate him. I think he really wants to prove the doubters wrong and win this by KO.

I also saw a video on Facebook about his trainer, who is Japanese, feeling the power of Casimero even while wearing protective equipment for his body. Casimero and Inoue have different styles of boxing, but both are effective in their own way, so it's really interesting to see which method will prevail.

I apologize for diverting the discussion, but it seems that despite Inoue and Casimero having their respective fights, we keep steering the conversation towards Inoue vs. Casimero because it's more interesting to watch now.

I do agree, it seems if we compare it before, from Floyd or Manny, after they win, people starts to ask when they are going to fight, as if their names are intertwined. So unless we see them fight in the future, John Riel and Naoya names will always pop up even if they have different opponents.

However, the burden is for Casimero to come up with big wins before he could fight Inoue, or at least Top Rank and his Japanese counterpart will be interested. So with the Oguni fight and the video resurfacing that Casimero is trying hard because he wants to fight Inoue next, it should be interesting on how Casimero will dispatch Oguni in their fight.

[Maslate]

However, the burden is for Casimero to come up with big wins before he could fight Inoue, or at least Top Rank and his Japanese counterpart will be interested. So with the Oguni fight and the video resurfacing that Casimero is trying hard because he wants to fight Inoue next, it should be interesting on how Casimero will dispatch Oguni in their fight.

On paper, yes, but among the fans, Inoue dodging Casimero will have a negative impact on his legacy. Just like Mayweather, who is undeniably a great fighter and was undefeated when he retired, but people still talk more about Pacman and believe that he had a better career than Mayweather. I think in boxing, it's the fans who should be followed, and since they want to see Inoue fight Casimero, I think the champion should make that happen.

[Hypnosis00]

However, the burden is for Casimero to come up with big wins before he could fight Inoue, or at least Top Rank and his Japanese counterpart will be interested. So with the Oguni fight and the video resurfacing that Casimero is trying hard because he wants to fight Inoue next, it should be interesting on how Casimero will dispatch Oguni in their fight.

On paper, yes, but among the fans, Inoue dodging Casimero will have a negative impact on his legacy. Just like Mayweather, who is undeniably a great fighter and was undefeated when he retired, but people still talk more about Pacman and believe that he had a better career than Mayweather. I think in boxing, it's the fans who should be followed, and since they want to see Inoue fight Casimero, I think the champion should make that happen.

It's not good for Inoue, though. He has some baggage left as he moves up in weight. As long as Casimero is still active in boxing, people will continue to link him to Inoue. I also think that if Inoue were to move up, Casimero might follow, especially if his goal is to prove to the world that he can beat Inoue, whom he called a turtle.

[Japinat]

However, the burden is for Casimero to come up with big wins before he could fight Inoue, or at least Top Rank and his Japanese counterpart will be interested. So with the Oguni fight and the video resurfacing that Casimero is trying hard because he wants to fight Inoue next, it should be interesting on how Casimero will dispatch Oguni in their fight.

On paper, yes, but among the fans, Inoue dodging Casimero will have a negative impact on his legacy. Just like Mayweather, who is undeniably a great fighter and was undefeated when he retired, but people still talk more about Pacman and believe that he had a better career than Mayweather. I think in boxing, it's the fans who should be followed, and since they want to see Inoue fight Casimero, I think the champion should make that happen.

It's not good for Inoue, though. He has some baggage left as he moves up in weight. As long as Casimero is still active in boxing, people will continue to link him to Inoue. I also think that if Inoue were to move up, Casimero might follow, especially if his goal is to prove to the world that he can beat Inoue, whom he called a turtle.

Let's not be quick to judge; there's another chance that the anticipated fight is going to happen. Just take the words from Inoue; they will stay for a while, so it could possibly imply that he is willing to fight Casimero. The thing is, Inoue has been defeating Filipino boxers while Casimero has been defeating Japanese boxers. So let's be optimistic that eventually, they will face each other.

[Vaculin]

The thing is, Inoue has been defeating Filipino boxers while Casimero has been defeating Japanese boxers. So let's be optimistic that eventually, they will face each other.

That's a good comparison. Both are slayers, so they should meet soon to determine who is the best. Well, on paper, obviously the best is Inoue, as he is at the top of the pound-for-pound list, while Casimero wasn't even a champion and does not have a good rank in the division he is competing in now.

However, I think we should be realistic. We should know when it could potentially happen. It's not happening this year for sure, and if this fight does not happen next year, then I guess it will never happen.

[inthelongrun]

I also believe that next year is the deciding year if Johnreil Casimero can really take on Naoya Inoue. This year it is most likely that Inoue will have his chance to unify his belts with another unified champion Marlon Tapales. But we haven't got the final deal yet on Inoue-Tapales. There's also the chance that both fighters will ask for a rematch clause but maybe it is not needed as long as they are getting paid well.

From what I know, these are the situations of the 4 sanctioning bodies:
WBA- Former champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev needs to fight for an eliminator. Former champion Tomoki Kameda refused the mandatory so there will be a delay on the WBA mandatory which gives Inoue/Tapales a window of a voluntary defense which could be Casimero.
WBC- Former champion Luis Nery already won an eliminator earlier but it was not stated as final so it is likely that there will also be a final eliminator which also means another window of opportunity for Inoue/Tapales to make a voluntary defense.
IBF- Sam Goodman already won an eliminator so the IBF can call Inoue/Tapales for a mandatory anytime. This is the biggest obstacle of Casimero because if Goodman gets the winner of Inoue/Tapales then it is also likely that the WBA and WBC mandatories will follow next.
WBO- No mandatory and eliminator yet. #1 Goodman, #2 Nery and #3 Casimero. Goodman is already an IBF mandatory. Maybe Nery and Casimero can fight for the WBC (final) and WBO eliminator early next year if both can't get Inoue/Tapales. But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

[bisdak40]

But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

The above scenario will most likely to happen if he comes back to MP Promotions because rumors had it that Manny or Sean Gibbons have sent notice to Quadro Alas if he is interested in being back in their wings as they will accept him back with open arms hehe. Sean Gibbons has so many connections with those sanctioning bodies especially the WBO so this may be the short for an Inoue fight that we have been longing for.

[Yaunfitda]

But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

The above scenario will most likely to happen if he comes back to MP Promotions because rumors had it that Manny or Sean Gibbons have sent notice to Quadro Alas if he is interested in being back in their wings as they will accept him back with open arms hehe. Sean Gibbons has so many connections with those sanctioning bodies especially the WBO so this may be the short for an Inoue fight that we have been longing for.

I'm not really sure what you meant, why is going back to MP suddenly WBO will give him the chance to become the mandatory? I don't think that Sean has so much influence though, we really even don't know how he become Manny's manager, he wasn't even by his side when Manny was in his prime?

Anyhow, I think if ever he will be given the chance by the WBO, it's because he is the former champion at 118 lbs. So we all know that some governing bodies prioritized their champions when moving up.

[inthelongrun]

But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

The above scenario will most likely to happen if he comes back to MP Promotions because rumors had it that Manny or Sean Gibbons have sent notice to Quadro Alas if he is interested in being back in their wings as they will accept him back with open arms hehe. Sean Gibbons has so many connections with those sanctioning bodies especially the WBO so this may be the short for an Inoue fight that we have been longing for.

I'm not really sure what you meant, why is going back to MP suddenly WBO will give him the chance to become the mandatory? I don't think that Sean has so much influence though, we really even don't know how he become Manny's manager, he wasn't even by his side when Manny was in his prime?

Anyhow, I think if ever he will be given the chance by the WBO, it's because he is the former champion at 118 lbs. So we all know that some governing bodies prioritized their champions when moving up.

I also heard this but there are conditions asked before Johnreil Casimero gets admitted again. I forgot the exact demands but I remember that Casimero needs to make a public apology to Sean Gibbons, etc., and fire his brother Jayson Casimero as his coach. Manny Pacquiao should fire Gibbons and his gang out of MP IMO.

I do not know if Casimero responded to this or if he already threw the offer into the trash can where it should belong. Casimero already mentioned before how important Jayson is to him, especially during fights. And Casimero is already WBO #3 by only fighting mediocre opponents twice so he is doing good without MP.

[bisdak40]

But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

The above scenario will most likely to happen if he comes back to MP Promotions because rumors had it that Manny or Sean Gibbons have sent notice to Quadro Alas if he is interested in being back in their wings as they will accept him back with open arms hehe. Sean Gibbons has so many connections with those sanctioning bodies especially the WBO so this may be the short for an Inoue fight that we have been longing for.

I'm not really sure what you meant, why is going back to MP suddenly WBO will give him the chance to become the mandatory? I don't think that Sean has so much influence though, we really even don't know how he become Manny's manager, he wasn't even by his side when Manny was in his prime?

Anyhow, I think if ever he will be given the chance by the WBO, it's because he is the former champion at 118 lbs. So we all know that some governing bodies prioritized their champions when moving up.

Whether we like it or not, there is bullshit politics in boxing  . Casimero is the number fighter out of the Philippines to this date that may be the reason why MP Promotions is interested in having him back, he could sell a fight by just talking b_s. With regards to connections of Sean Gibbons just look at Marlon Tapales, Jerwin Ancajas and Mark Magsayo, they all have fought for the championship belt because of Sean Gibbons efforts and even Casimero when he was with him. He got his WBO 118lbs title under MP Promotions.

[btc_angela]

But there's also the chance that Casimero will right away become mandatory for the WBO or he will fight for an eliminator against #4 or anyone that is available.

The above scenario will most likely to happen if he comes back to MP Promotions because rumors had it that Manny or Sean Gibbons have sent notice to Quadro Alas if he is interested in being back in their wings as they will accept him back with open arms hehe. Sean Gibbons has so many connections with those sanctioning bodies especially the WBO so this may be the short for an Inoue fight that we have been longing for.

I'm not really sure what you meant, why is going back to MP suddenly WBO will give him the chance to become the mandatory? I don't think that Sean has so much influence though, we really even don't know how he become Manny's manager, he wasn't even by his side when Manny was in his prime?

Anyhow, I think if ever he will be given the chance by the WBO, it's because he is the former champion at 118 lbs. So we all know that some governing bodies prioritized their champions when moving up.

Whether we like it or not, there is bullshit politics in boxing  . Casimero is the number fighter out of the Philippines to this date that may be the reason why MP Promotions is interested in having him back, he could sell a fight by just talking b_s. With regards to connections of Sean Gibbons just look at Marlon Tapales, Jerwin Ancajas and Mark Magsayo, they all have fought for the championship belt because of Sean Gibbons efforts and even Casimero when he was with him. He got his WBO 118lbs title under MP Promotions.

Yeah, it really takes a good manager and promotional company to really bring the best out of their boxers and won a belt. But for me, it still base on the fighters themselves, I mean they could be given chances to fight for the belt, but in any case, if they are not really that good then they couldn't win any belts.

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

[Russlenat]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

[Kelvinid]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

Yes, this was in 2019 when Inoue won the tournament by beating Donaire in the final round.
For more information about that, you can check out this link: World Boxing News - Naoya Inoue

Inoue idolizes Pacman, maybe that's the reason why he also chose Bob Arum to be his promoter because he believes it can help elevate his career. We are already seeing it now; he is fighting to become an undisputed champion, and maybe after this, he will be moving up, probably next year.

[Kemarit]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

The thing though with Top Rank is that they don't solely 100% promote Inoue, Ohashi Promotions from Japan also co-promotes.
So as much as we love to see Inoue fight in Japan, Top Rank's counterpart might have wanted for Inoue to stay in Japan as this is his hometown.
However, I think that it won't last that long, sooner or later Bob Arum will have to make Inoue fight in the US so that he will make a lot of money.
Perhaps if Inoue goes up again at 126 lbs and fight US fighters or at least champions for US or Mexico, then Inoue will have no choice but to travel to US.

[Yaunfitda]

I tried to subscribe to John Riel Casimero's youtube account and I just see some shadow boxing, he really looks solid and fast. And if I'm not mistaken, his body is really built like a tank, small frame but he is stocky perhaps I will compare him to Manny Pacquiao during his prime when he had this shadow boxing in Wild Card gym.

This is the video that I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mhEZpE-f0iY

Hopefully though, he will have the stamina to last even if it needed 12 rounds. Many sparring rounds so that he will be used to this kind of fast phase and his power will be the same all throughout, just like what Manny had. And Manny said during his first fight with Barrera that he did train many rounds so that you can see his power and his phasing not even slowing down in this fight as he really prepared for it.

[carlisle1]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

Yes, this was in 2019 when Inoue won the tournament by beating Donaire in the final round.
For more information about that, you can check out this link: World Boxing News - Naoya Inoue

Inoue idolizes Pacman, maybe that's the reason why he also chose Bob Arum to be his promoter because he believes it can help elevate his career. We are already seeing it now; he is fighting to become an undisputed champion, and maybe after this, he will be moving up, probably next year.

Maybe he's focusing on how to achieve more glory and he's letting Arum to work for him in terms of money.

not sure if what his handler's doing to make sure that they are getting what they supposed to earn while Inoue's career still hyping up.

Still preferred to fight inside his home crowd and there's no update yet if he will soon to travel and fight outside especially
in the US where money may overflow.

Maybe if by chance Him and Casimero will be setup and deal, maybe US would be best for them both to bring huge amounts of money.

[btc_angela]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

The thing though with Top Rank is that they don't solely 100% promote Inoue, Ohashi Promotions from Japan also co-promotes.
So as much as we love to see Inoue fight in Japan, Top Rank's counterpart might have wanted for Inoue to stay in Japan as this is his hometown.
However, I think that it won't last that long, sooner or later Bob Arum will have to make Inoue fight in the US so that he will make a lot of money.
Perhaps if Inoue goes up again at 126 lbs and fight US fighters or at least champions for US or Mexico, then Inoue will have no choice but to travel to US.

Yes, but as we have been telling or at least what we think is the best for Inoue, him and Top Rank and his Japanese promoter should really venture out of their comfort zone and established their names in the US.

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

[Sanitough]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

[Oasisman]

Just like what Top Rank's did to Manny and now to Inoue. They have the blue print to make a good fighters to be great and legendary by careful match making. But just imagine if Manny doesn't have the power or the charisma he had in the ring, he wouldn't be that great though.

Inoue was already popular before he joined Top Rank. If I remember correctly, he only joined after he beat Donaire in their first fight. I thought that when he joined Top Rank, he would have more fights outside his country, but he still chose to fight in Japan rather than in the USA. I'm not sure if Inoue is making more money fighting in Japan or in the USA. How can Top Rank maximize the potential income?

He'd still earn good figures in Japan as he has the full support of his countrymen, not to mention he'd also attract tourist to watch him fight live. So, Inoue fighting in Japan could help their tourism businesses as well. However, this won't stay longer especially when boxing fans starts to become disinterested due to the fact that he's not fighting outside Japan.
Inoue needs to explore more of his career in fighting outside his territory, it would help him become even better with where he is right now.

[inthelongrun]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

I believe both Naoya Inoue and Manny Pacquiao are both risk-takers. But both have their own different ways of risking their careers. Opportunity costs a lot in this sport since fighters have limited years in their prime.

Pacman (retired):
- Was only 19 years old when he won his first world title.
- The only 8-division champion in the history of the sport.
- The only 5-division lineal champion in the history of the sport.

The cost of Pacman's constant moving up in weight:
- Zero undisputed
- He never really became a unified champion. He only fought another belt holder twice in his long career and failed to win both

Monster (active):
- 20 years old when he won his first world title.
- He only had 5 wins when he fought for his first world title.
- After only 7 wins he moved up in weight for his second-division world title fight. This might be the fastest in the history of the sport.
- 1 time undisputed champion
- 4 division world champion
- 2 division lineal champion
- 2 division unified champion

The cost of Inoue spending 4 years of his prime to unify the belts at 118 might have put his limits as to how many divisions he could take in his remaining years.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

[Iranus]

Of course, he had been heard and known already, he is even in the pound for pound list. But US fans wanted to see the Japanese monster and really be the name from Asia. Just like Manny Pacquiao is, even after he retires, he has been given so much respect by the boxing community in the US and whenever he goes to watch live fights, everyone is very happy to see the living legend and even his former nemesis are there for Manny.

Definitely, that's what Inoue's team should do if they want to gain recognition worldwide. Inoue has the same skills as Manny Pacquiao, and perhaps even better, but he isn't as much of a risk-taker as Manny, who would fight anyone, even when some people didn't think he could beat them. I mean, he kept proving the experts wrong every time he move up in weight and stepped into the ring. That's because he still had the speed and power, and, mind you, he wasn't a boxer afraid of losing; all he wanted was to entertain the fans, as they deserved.

Remember that Manny Pacquiao was a champion in five/eight different weight classes? He was the champion of eight different weight classes, to be honest.

Not only Inoue I actually think that there is no one in this world right now who is actually going to take a risk like that. In this day and age, everyone likes to play it safe. And he is definitely also like that. In this era, people are more interested in having a career which is really perfect. It's like if you do not have like 100 wins and zero losses you are not a good fighter. And of course, I don't think we can actually blame any fighter for taking things easy and careful.

[Shamm]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

You know what the pretty boy Mayweather is too far from Manny pacman Pacquiao ad we all know and saw how he fight Floyd has the strategy of backing once his opponent are stronger than him we won't give a belt to belt fight which is pretty bad for me. That's the reason why he has the name of pretty boy because his face is very protective by his elbow and arms. While Manny pacman gives us an exciting match a belt to belt punches until both of them felt slow.

[Kemarit]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

Exactly, US is the mecca of boxing, so it's better for Inoue to make his fights in the US and risk everything.
Of course, they are making as well good money in the US, but if you wanted to cement your legacy and chasing the biggest audience that will be the US of A.
But we can't do anything if his Japanese handlers are in their comfort in Japan.
There might be language barriers, but Top Rank is there to work with them.
Not sure how long is Inoue's contract though, maybe when he is on his last term with Top Rank, perhaps he will be fighting in the US.
But for now, he seems to not compromise his career and just steadily fighting in his home country.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

He did the right thing because his promoter knows where the bigger market is, compared to Inoue, who can still make a lot of money even if he only fights in Japan. But it cannot be denied that he will make more if the fight is held in the USA. I don't know what their plan is, but right now, in terms of career development, Inoue is on the right path. Maybe next time he moves up in weight, he'll focus his fights in the US.

Exactly, US is the mecca of boxing, so it's better for Inoue to make his fights in the US and risk everything.
Of course, they are making as well good money in the US, but if you wanted to cement your legacy and chasing the biggest audience that will be the US of A.
But we can't do anything if his Japanese handlers are in their comfort in Japan.
There might be language barriers, but Top Rank is there to work with them.
Not sure how long is Inoue's contract though, maybe when he is on his last term with Top Rank, perhaps he will be fighting in the US.
But for now, he seems to not compromise his career and just steadily fighting in his home country.

Top Rank hasn't been dictating where Inoue would fight. I read that he only signed with Top Rank for a co-promotional agreement, which means it's not Top Rank that has total control. I believe he signed in 2019 and announced it after the fight with Donaire, so it's been more than three years already. He has had six fights under Top Rank, but only two of the fights were held in the US: his fights with Jason Moloney and Michael Dasmarinas.

[carlisle1]

^^ But I think Manny did the right thing though, moving up in weight winning 8 divisions and now he has become a legend. And could be in the argument for one of the best, GOAT in boxing. As let's say to Floyd's unblemished record, but if you have to compare him and Manny, what Pacman accomplished was greater as it hard to beat that record and maybe it will stand for many years that not even Inoue can break it if he wanted to. But fighting in the US, could really be good for Inoue's exposure and of course getting huge money as well.

You know what the pretty boy Mayweather is too far from Manny pacman Pacquiao ad we all know and saw how he fight Floyd has the strategy of backing once his opponent are stronger than him we won't give a belt to belt fight which is pretty bad for me. That's the reason why he has the name of pretty boy because his face is very protective by his elbow and arms. While Manny pacman gives us an exciting match a belt to belt punches until both of them felt slow.

Not to hijack this thread but yes, Floyd and Manny are different, as how the post above you describe it and how you state your own
interpretation, Floyd uses his tactics and keeps that clean records.

While Manny brings all the excitement and we know how popular he is not just in front of his countrymen, but also he gains the love all around the world.

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

[bisdak40]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

[Yaunfitda]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

[Natalim]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

[Jating]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

For now, yes, we can say that he could be the best bet for us to beat Inoue, and obviously, they haven't face so we can say that. But before Casimero, the same was said by Fulton himself and thinks he can just manhandled Inoue at super bantamweight as he is the champion and he has beaten a lot of great boxers in the past and hasn't lost yet, and he is still improving from what I seen.

But Inoue proved how great he is. Although we can say that Fulton is not a knockout artist or doesn't have that power as compare to Casimero. So still a great fight if we will ever see this two in top of the ring and see if Casimero has what it takes and do the thing that other boxers failed, that is to beat Inoue.

[Shamm]

And, hopefully if ever Casimero will have that chance to meet Inoue inside the ring, he will show something that will hype his
name, more on the side where opportunity might open up for after this upcoming fight.

Though i'm a fan of Casimero but i think he will lose to Inoue if ever they will meet in the future. Casimero has power, we knew that but Inoue has a granite chin, we saw that when he fought Donaire, though his jaw was broken but still he stood standing and finished the fight gallantly.

But Inoue vs Casimero will be interesting to ordinary fans and tickets might sell like hotcakes if Quadro Alas would start opening his mount and taunt Inoue.

Regardless of us being a fan though of Casimero, we still wanted to see if he can back up all his talks about Inoue. I mean he is a trash talking, very uncanny for a Filipino boxer. But I guess that's what his personality is, and again, I follow his social media accounts and it seems that he is also helping back his community with the money he earn from boxing and help his family.

Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if he taunt Inoue again after he wins his fight again Oguni, specially if it will be in spectacular fashion like a knockout win because that will boost his confidence againt call out Inoue for a showdown.

Boxing is a business, and no matter how good a boxer is, if he doesn't know how to market a fight and promote himself, promoters may be hesitant to keep him in the spotlight. Casimero understands that Inoue is his best chance to become a popular boxer, so he is doing everything he can to gain Inoue's attention, hoping that one day Inoue's camp will sign a contract for a fight. Casimero might have a rougher journey compared to Inoue, but we have to admit that he is the closest rival to Inoue right now, and people see that as the reason they are supporting Casimero with his taunting style.

For now, yes, we can say that he could be the best bet for us to beat Inoue, and obviously, they haven't face so we can say that. But before Casimero, the same was said by Fulton himself and thinks he can just manhandled Inoue at super bantamweight as he is the champion and he has beaten a lot of great boxers in the past and hasn't lost yet, and he is still improving from what I seen.

But Inoue proved how great he is. Although we can say that Fulton is not a knockout artist or doesn't have that power as compare to Casimero. So still a great fight if we will ever see this two in top of the ring and see if Casimero has what it takes and do the thing that other boxers failed, that is to beat Inoue.

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

[Sanitough]

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

[Reatim]

ctto

It is just announced a few hours ago that Casimero will be back in the ring against another Japanese fighter in Oguni on October 12 at Ariake Arena in Japan.

The good thing about this card is that many Filipino fighters will be fighting in the undercard.

Will update the OP once there are available odds and updates about the subject.

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how I wish that it is Inoue that he is fighting but since this is another Japanese then lets assume that this is about country that stands in their name , and also in this it is Casimero that will be the favorite,
and with many Filipino that partaking un undercard then there will be more to watch here.

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

lets not talk about Inoue because this is a different opponent , and for me Casimero knows what he is doing and that shows in his great record as boxer .

[carlisle1]

Casimero must do a good observation in order that a plan how he defeat inoue as we all know that the monster inoue is not just an easy fighter he is a good and talented one so for sure casimero   will take this as a serious cause one mistake he make when they are fighting for sure casimero will loss. But for now hoping casimero will win against oguni as we all know that he must win this fight before he will face inoue.

That's not Casimero's first priority; he certainly knows how to win, as he is currently on a winning streak. In my opinion, Casimero is more focused on how he can secure a fight against Inoue, and the rest will follow. As for his upcoming opponent, who is also Japanese, Oguni isn't a quality boxer, at least not at the current time, so I doubt this fight will be competitive, and Casimero will likely not struggle.

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

[stadus]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

[Yamifoud]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

If Oguni doesn't put up a strong performance, it's highly likely we'll witness a knockout here. I don't even understand why Oguni was chosen as Casimero's opponent when there are other boxers with a much better record. Some might see it as a tune-up fight; who knows, Casimero could potentially face Nery or Inoue next.

[Jating]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

No, the last fighter that Casimero beat is Nghitumbwa and the fight was held in Manila. It was a dominant win by Casimero against the bigger opponent, and he had almost knock him out. But Nghitumbwa took the best of Casimero and was able to withstand.

That's why we said that against Oguni, Casimero should be impressive enough to get the attention of Inoue to be the next boxer that we will fight. At least if this fight ends in a knockout win for John Riel they hype will still be there for a potential Inoue class next year.

[stadus]

Though his opponent is no longer in his prime, Casimero still needs a win with a big hype under his name. Winning it with an early KO
might bring the attention to the crowd.

Especially that he's fighting against a Japanese fighter where pride is really important, winning it with a KO or taking his opponent down with something
that vlogger can write a good story behind might really spark the interest of promoters to set him up against Inoue.

An important win to make or create a noise for your name and push the intensity to bring himself closer to Inoue's next challenger.

Im hoping to witness that. The last boxer he beat was Ryo Akaho. Although it was initially controversial and ruled as a no contest, since Ryo Akaho admitted he lost the fight, the win was awarded to Casimero via a 2nd-round knockout as we can see it in Ryo Akaho's record.

No, the last fighter that Casimero beat is Nghitumbwa and the fight was held in Manila. It was a dominant win by Casimero against the bigger opponent, and he had almost knock him out. But Nghitumbwa took the best of Casimero and was able to withstand.

Yes, you are right but I didn't write it well, I was referring to the last Japanese boxer that he beats.

That's why we said that against Oguni, Casimero should be impressive enough to get the attention of Inoue to be the next boxer that we will fight. At least if this fight ends in a knockout win for John Riel they hype will still be there for a potential Inoue class next year.

Casimero, prior to getting stripped of his belt in the bantamweight division, already had some impressive wins. I don't think that's what Casimero is looking for because, obviously, their fight is highly anticipated, and there should be no problem with marketing the fight.

Though the possible fight with Casimero has him as the challenger, it would be more attractive if they could bring this fight to the US. More audience means more money, and if Inoue really wants to become more popular, he should consider fighting more in the US.

[yazher]

Though the possible fight with Casimero has him as the challenger, it would be more attractive if they could bring this fight to the US. More audience means more money, and if Inoue really wants to become more popular, he should consider fighting more in the US.

That's the only fight if he wins, he will no longer be doubted by all of the fans because he will just simply prove himself as the best boxer he really is, opposite to whatever Casimero is claiming. I doubt that he will accept the fight in the US because it won't be that good and it should be in Japan because that was what Casimero was saying back then. he even fights Inoue in Japan even if the referee is his father. That would be a great challenge for Casimero, I really hope to see that fight after Inoue is done against Tapales.

[stadus]

Though the possible fight with Casimero has him as the challenger, it would be more attractive if they could bring this fight to the US. More audience means more money, and if Inoue really wants to become more popular, he should consider fighting more in the US.

That's the only fight if he wins, he will no longer be doubted by all of the fans because he will just simply prove himself as the best boxer he really is, opposite to whatever Casimero is claiming. I doubt that he will accept the fight in the US because it won't be that good and it should be in Japan because that was what Casimero was saying back then. he even fights Inoue in Japan even if the referee is his father. That would be a great challenge for Casimero, I really hope to see that fight after Inoue is done against Tapales.

No doubt Casimero would fight Inoue in Japan because that is not new to Casimero. Remember, he was called a "road warrior" as he has gone to different countries to challenge their champions. My concern is Inoue's promising future; if he wants to be well-recognized, then he shouldn't be just fighting in Japan.

Most of the big fights happen in the US, so while Inoue is still in his prime, he has to take advantage of the opportunities in front of him.

Here are the highest-grossing PPV boxing events. I believe most of the fights are in the US.

https://worldsportsweekly.com/top-ten-highest-grossing-ppv-boxing-fights-of-all-time

[Natalim]

Though the possible fight with Casimero has him as the challenger, it would be more attractive if they could bring this fight to the US. More audience means more money, and if Inoue really wants to become more popular, he should consider fighting more in the US.

That's the only fight if he wins, he will no longer be doubted by all of the fans because he will just simply prove himself as the best boxer he really is, opposite to whatever Casimero is claiming. I doubt that he will accept the fight in the US because it won't be that good and it should be in Japan because that was what Casimero was saying back then. he even fights Inoue in Japan even if the referee is his father. That would be a great challenge for Casimero, I really hope to see that fight after Inoue is done against Tapales.

No doubt Casimero would fight Inoue in Japan because that is not new to Casimero. Remember, he was called a "road warrior" as he has gone to different countries to challenge their champions. My concern is Inoue's promising future; if he wants to be well-recognized, then he shouldn't be just fighting in Japan.

Most of the big fights happen in the US, so while Inoue is still in his prime, he has to take advantage of the opportunities in front of him.

Here are the highest-grossing PPV boxing events. I believe most of the fights are in the US.

https://worldsportsweekly.com/top-ten-highest-grossing-ppv-boxing-fights-of-all-time

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao still tops the list with $410 million in PPV sales. If Inoue is indeed compared to Manny Pacquiao, then I hope not only his achievements in terms of championships will increase but, more significantly, his earnings in boxing as well.

According to this article. https://thesportslite.com/net-worth/naoya-inoue-net-worth-salary-endorsements-cars-houses-properties-charities-etc/
Inoue's net worth in 2023 is,

Naoya Inoue’s current net worth is around $5 million as of 2023.

That could increase if he try to go out of his comfort zone.

[bisdak40]

No doubt Casimero would fight Inoue in Japan because that is not new to Casimero. Remember, he was called a "road warrior" as he has gone to different countries to challenge their champions. My concern is Inoue's promising future; if he wants to be well-recognized, then he shouldn't be just fighting in Japan.

Most probably they would fight each other in Japan where the Japanese Monster is comfortable. I have read an article that Japanese are buying tickets for this fight and seems like they are interested to see how Casimero would perform against Oguni because they also wanted to see our very own Quadro Alas fight their own pride.

With regards to Inoue just settling in Japan, i think Top Rank is already aware of that and for sure they will make some move to bring their cash cow to the boxing mecca of the world, Las Vegas.

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

[Jating]

No doubt Casimero would fight Inoue in Japan because that is not new to Casimero. Remember, he was called a "road warrior" as he has gone to different countries to challenge their champions. My concern is Inoue's promising future; if he wants to be well-recognized, then he shouldn't be just fighting in Japan.

Most probably they would fight each other in Japan where the Japanese Monster is comfortable. I have read an article that Japanese are buying tickets for this fight and seems like they are interested to see how Casimero would perform against Oguni because they also wanted to see our very own Quadro Alas fight their own pride.

With regards to Inoue just settling in Japan, i think Top Rank is already aware of that and for sure they will make some move to bring their cash cow to the boxing mecca of the world, Las Vegas.

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

Yes, time flies so fast, last week we have the Charlo vs. Canelo and now the one that we all waiting for, Casimero against Oguni and as we have said, the pressure could be in the shoulder of Casimero to win impressively and by a knockout no less so that his name is still in the works for a Inoue fight which fans like us are waiting, regarding if the fight is to be held in Inoue's country.

Bob Arum should really work his magic and tell the Inoue's that it's better for them to have their boy fight in the mecca of boxing which is the United States so that they can cement his legacy and obviously, makes a lot of money as well.

[btc_angela]

No doubt Casimero would fight Inoue in Japan because that is not new to Casimero. Remember, he was called a "road warrior" as he has gone to different countries to challenge their champions. My concern is Inoue's promising future; if he wants to be well-recognized, then he shouldn't be just fighting in Japan.

Most probably they would fight each other in Japan where the Japanese Monster is comfortable. I have read an article that Japanese are buying tickets for this fight and seems like they are interested to see how Casimero would perform against Oguni because they also wanted to see our very own Quadro Alas fight their own pride.

Also, the manager of Casimero is Japanese, so there's no need of some kind of translation as both managers can sit down comfortably and talk about the business and how the money will be split. But definitely, Inoue will be the A-side here.

With regards to Inoue just settling in Japan, i think Top Rank is already aware of that and for sure they will make some move to bring their cash cow to the boxing mecca of the world, Las Vegas.

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

Same process though mate, it might be shown after a day or two before the actual fight. Obviously, this doesn't have the hype that other fights that we have so the listing of the odds might be delayed until the date of the fight itself. Nevertheless, we will wait and most likely bet if we see some value on it.

[Hypnosis00]

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

There's no betting odds yet on sportsbooks, however, I've seen a website that could give us an idea about the possible betting odds of the fight.

https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-oguni/#iw-modal

Latest Odds
FavoriteCasimero to win: 1/2
UnderdogOguni to win: 2/1

As we can see, Casimero is a slight favorite with 1.50 odds if converted on decimal, I think it's already worth taking.

[Distinctin]

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

There's no betting odds yet on sportsbooks, however, I've seen a website that could give us an idea about the possible betting odds of the fight.

https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-oguni/#iw-modal

Latest Odds
FavoriteCasimero to win: 1/2
UnderdogOguni to win: 2/1

As we can see, Casimero is a slight favorite with 1.50 odds if converted on decimal, I think it's already worth taking.

Thank you for giving us a picture of what the betting odds could possibly be once they're available. 1.50 is quite attractive already, considering his opponent isn't that popular and doesn't have a better ranking than him. The only worry here is if the fight ends up in a judges' decision because Oguni is fighting on his home court, and you know about the home-court advantage. Additionally, Inoue might not be interested in fighting Casimero if he doesn't win impressively.

I would also help you guys update once the real odds are out, I'm sure it will be out soon since the fight is already a week from now.

[Shamm]

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

There's no betting odds yet on sportsbooks, however, I've seen a website that could give us an idea about the possible betting odds of the fight.

https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-oguni/#iw-modal

Latest Odds
FavoriteCasimero to win: 1/2
UnderdogOguni to win: 2/1

As we can see, Casimero is a slight favorite with 1.50 odds if converted on decimal, I think it's already worth taking.

Thank you for giving us a picture of what the betting odds could possibly be once they're available. 1.50 is quite attractive already, considering his opponent isn't that popular and doesn't have a better ranking than him. The only worry here is if the fight ends up in a judges' decision because Oguni is fighting on his home court, and you know about the home-court advantage. Additionally, Inoue might not be interested in fighting Casimero if he doesn't win impressively.

I would also help you guys update once the real odds are out, I'm sure it will be out soon since the fight is already a week from now.

Ohh that's a good odds casimero is the favorite here, but without the doubt he has the momentum right now. But hoping it will long last and win in this fight because it's almost come 7, days in countdown cssimero once again in the ring fighting aiming for the win in order to face that monster fighter in  Japan Inoue which is once it will happen it will be one of  the biggest fight in boxing . Cause  we all know how the carisma when we are watching the battles if champion .

[Botnake]

Ohh that's a good odds casimero is the favorite here, but without the doubt he has the momentum right now. But hoping it will long last and win in this fight because it's almost come 7, days in countdown cssimero once again in the ring fighting aiming for the win in order to face that monster fighter in  Japan Inoue which is once it will happen it will be one of  the biggest fight in boxing . Cause  we all know how the carisma when we are watching the battles if champion .

You know, we can probably score better odds once the whole market's in on it. I'm thinking about going for a knockout here, just like what Casimero must be thinking. He's got to secure that win and not leave it up to the judges. I'm guessing the odds for a KO victory are around 1.80 to 1.90, but either way, it's a lot better than the 1.50 odds.

[btc_angela]

Time flies so fast that this Casimero vs Oguni would be happening next week but have not seen odds yet for this fight, hopefully they would cover this early.

There's no betting odds yet on sportsbooks, however, I've seen a website that could give us an idea about the possible betting odds of the fight.

https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-oguni/#iw-modal

Latest Odds
FavoriteCasimero to win: 1/2
UnderdogOguni to win: 2/1

As we can see, Casimero is a slight favorite with 1.50 odds if converted on decimal, I think it's already worth taking.

Thank you for giving us a picture of what the betting odds could possibly be once they're available. 1.50 is quite attractive already, considering his opponent isn't that popular and doesn't have a better ranking than him. The only worry here is if the fight ends up in a judges' decision because Oguni is fighting on his home court, and you know about the home-court advantage. Additionally, Inoue might not be interested in fighting Casimero if he doesn't win impressively.

I would also help you guys update once the real odds are out, I'm sure it will be out soon since the fight is already a week from now.

Yeah, that's a good odds for Casimero. I thought he will be like 1.2x something as favorite, nevertheless if we fans of him think that it's already attractive, then we should wait for our favorite crypto casinos to released the odds and then we can beat on them.

Videos of Casimero circulating about this training for this fight also looks good. I mean he is very sharp and then some random running together with his entourage. Maybe they still think that Casimero needs more stamina and gas against Oguni at it might be a long night for him. But we all wanted for Casimero to have a signature knockout to really show his arrival in this division.

[coin-investor]

Videos of Casimero circulating about this training for this fight also looks good. I mean he is very sharp and then some random running together with his entourage. Maybe they still think that Casimero needs more stamina and gas against Oguni at it might be a long night for him. But we all wanted for Casimero to have a signature knockout to really show his arrival in this division.

He is doubling the effort, his last fight is not good he appeared to lose his knock-out power in his last fight against Filipus Nghitumba he did floor him but he had a problem with his gas, and it was noticeable, a boxer's last fight is his parameter for his next fight so he needs to show that he still has it, it's only 5 days to go so he is now in tip-top shape.
Casimero if he is at his best can knock out anybody in the first 5 rounds I hope he knocks out Oguni so he gets another shot at the title

[danherbias07]

Researching Casimero and I saw this.
Checked Stake.com and the odds are still not available although at outrights the other fights like Francis Nganou versus Tyson Fury are already available even though it is set for October 29th.
I think for the Filipinos who like to put their bets, we will need to wait until Wednesday or earlier before the odds will come out.
I really like to bet for me and I wish the odds would come out as early as possible in my favorite sports bookie. But let's understand, it's not like this will be a popular fight which is why it's not yet posted in other bookies. Still I will watch this fight and support Casimero because I want him to get the higher ranks and have a chance against Inoue someday.

[carlisle1]

Ohh that's a good odds casimero is the favorite here, but without the doubt he has the momentum right now. But hoping it will long last and win in this fight because it's almost come 7, days in countdown cssimero once again in the ring fighting aiming for the win in order to face that monster fighter in  Japan Inoue which is once it will happen it will be one of  the biggest fight in boxing . Cause  we all know how the carisma when we are watching the battles if champion .

You know, we can probably score better odds once the whole market's in on it. I'm thinking about going for a knockout here, just like what Casimero must be thinking. He's got to secure that win and not leave it up to the judges. I'm guessing the odds for a KO victory are around 1.80 to 1.90, but either way, it's a lot better than the 1.50 odds.

If you are aiming for bigger odd KO win, for sure will be much better, but for some gambler ML with 1.50 odd is already good enough.

Though if Casimero is aiming for another big fight to come, he needs to win this fight with an attracting KO, it will hype his name and will create social media conversation,

Chances that fans will again call for his chance to face Inoue. This fight will take place inside Inoue's crowd and who knows, maybe if Casimero will show some exciting skills, might be possible that it will be boosted by the Japanese fans to call for Inoue's next fight.

[Japinat]

Ohh that's a good odds casimero is the favorite here, but without the doubt he has the momentum right now. But hoping it will long last and win in this fight because it's almost come 7, days in countdown cssimero once again in the ring fighting aiming for the win in order to face that monster fighter in  Japan Inoue which is once it will happen it will be one of  the biggest fight in boxing . Cause  we all know how the carisma when we are watching the battles if champion .

You know, we can probably score better odds once the whole market's in on it. I'm thinking about going for a knockout here, just like what Casimero must be thinking. He's got to secure that win and not leave it up to the judges. I'm guessing the odds for a KO victory are around 1.80 to 1.90, but either way, it's a lot better than the 1.50 odds.

If you are aiming for bigger odd KO win, for sure will be much better, but for some gambler ML with 1.50 odd is already good enough.

Though if Casimero is aiming for another big fight to come, he needs to win this fight with an attracting KO, it will hype his name and will create social media conversation,

Chances that fans will again call for his chance to face Inoue. This fight will take place inside Inoue's crowd and who knows, maybe if Casimero will show some exciting skills, might be possible that it will be boosted by the Japanese fans to call for Inoue's next fight.

I personally would bet on a KO win. I mean, it's not safe to leave it to the judges, especially when you're fighting in your opponent's home country. Casimero's got that knockout power, you know? He can take out anyone if they're willing to go toe-to-toe. And honestly, I don't see anything particularly special about Oguni, so I think it's just going to be an ordinary day for Casimero.

I'm really curious about what kind of preparation Casimero has been putting in to ensure a solid win in this fight. But whatever it is, I hope it works out for him on the actual fight night. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the fans start booing Casimero since he's been disrespecting their champ, Inoue.

[Dave1]

Researching Casimero and I saw this.
Checked Stake.com and the odds are still not available although at outrights the other fights like Francis Nganou versus Tyson Fury are already available even though it is set for October 29th.
I think for the Filipinos who like to put their bets, we will need to wait until Wednesday or earlier before the odds will come out.
I really like to bet for me and I wish the odds would come out as early as possible in my favorite sports bookie. But let's understand, it's not like this will be a popular fight which is why it's not yet posted in other bookies. Still I will watch this fight and support Casimero because I want him to get the higher ranks and have a chance against Inoue someday.

Yes, that's what we have been saying, this kind of fights, in the lower division, most of the time the sport bookies are very late to list the odds until the last minute of the fight. So all we can do is wait or at least someone will tell us here that the odds have been released so that we can bet.

And with that, we could only wait and if we wasn't able to put the bet on time, then so be it. But at least we can only hope that Casimero can win this fight and with a KO victory so that Inoue will likely be interested in fighting him.

[Kemarit]

Here is the latest update or video regarding this fight, and it seems that he is already in Japan,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrbu7S6IOBw

And the title says he was not allowed to get out of the Japanese airport upon arrival and that he was corned by the Japanese boxing media to have an interview with him and asked questions about him fighting Inoue?

Nothing is wrong with it though, Casimero is really famous boxer, and he has a Japanese promoter right now so it make sense the the Japanese boxing media is really waiting for him in the airport to have a interview. Still a good publicity for the former Filipino champion.

[btc_angela]

^ It's not like a formal interview though, and it seems that it was just a ambushed interview, but it seems that there is some translator along the way, maybe it was provided by the Japanese manager of Casimero as for sure they are the one who pick him up at the Japanese airport.

Regardless, it's good to see that Casimero is in Japan already as the fight is just several days from now. It's just weird though that the date of the fight is not weekends as usually it's Sunday a fight is held. But I will not be surprised as it will be held in Asia, so maybe they doesn't care what the date is, as long as it can be made and many fans are going to see this fight, then it's all good.

[Botnake]

Ohh that's a good odds casimero is the favorite here, but without the doubt he has the momentum right now. But hoping it will long last and win in this fight because it's almost come 7, days in countdown cssimero once again in the ring fighting aiming for the win in order to face that monster fighter in  Japan Inoue which is once it will happen it will be one of  the biggest fight in boxing . Cause  we all know how the carisma when we are watching the battles if champion .

You know, we can probably score better odds once the whole market's in on it. I'm thinking about going for a knockout here, just like what Casimero must be thinking. He's got to secure that win and not leave it up to the judges. I'm guessing the odds for a KO victory are around 1.80 to 1.90, but either way, it's a lot better than the 1.50 odds.

If you are aiming for bigger odd KO win, for sure will be much better, but for some gambler ML with 1.50 odd is already good enough.

Though if Casimero is aiming for another big fight to come, he needs to win this fight with an attracting KO, it will hype his name and will create social media conversation,

Chances that fans will again call for his chance to face Inoue. This fight will take place inside Inoue's crowd and who knows, maybe if Casimero will show some exciting skills, might be possible that it will be boosted by the Japanese fans to call for Inoue's next fight.

I'm really looking forward to the betting odds coming out soon. If KO's odds are at least 2.00, I think I might be tempted to bet on it. Casimero has power in both hands, so winning by KO is definitely a good possibility.

From what I've seen, Casimero tends to perform better when he's fighting outside the country. It seems like he's up for the challenge of proving himself in front of a new crowd.

And who knows, maybe Inoue will be watching this fight closely. If Casimero comes out as the winner, it'll be interesting to see what he says when he sees Inoue. Casimero has been taunting Inoue on his social media platforms, so maybe this is the moment he challenges Inoue face to face. We'll just have to wait for Inoue's response, and that might push him to fight Casimero.

[bisdak40]

I'm really looking forward to the betting odds coming out soon. If KO's odds are at least 2.00, I think I might be tempted to bet on it. Casimero has power in both hands, so winning by KO is definitely a good possibility.

From what I've seen, Casimero tends to perform better when he's fighting outside the country. It seems like he's up for the challenge of proving himself in front of a new crowd.

And who knows, maybe Inoue will be watching this fight closely. If Casimero comes out as the winner, it'll be interesting to see what he says when he sees Inoue. Casimero has been taunting Inoue on his social media platforms, so maybe this is the moment he challenges Inoue face to face. We'll just have to wait for Inoue's response, and that might push him to fight Casimero.

KO bet is interesting and you are right, if it is above 2.0 then i think that's the bet to go as Casimero is really on shape right now and Oguni is has not been active for more than a year, that is a very big factor in boxing, ring rust might be the reason on his downfall.

Casimero is already in Japan, watched their vlog and he is somewhat popular there as people, especially the press are talking about him fighting Inoue in the future. The Japanese people are closely watching Quadro Alas if he is indeed a threat to their hero.

[Natalim]

And who knows, maybe Inoue will be watching this fight closely. If Casimero comes out as the winner, it'll be interesting to see what he says when he sees Inoue. Casimero has been taunting Inoue on his social media platforms, so maybe this is the moment he challenges Inoue face to face. We'll just have to wait for Inoue's response, and that might push him to fight Casimero.

That could be a bit of a trap because I'm sure Casimero's camp has already considered that possibility. When a champion says 'yes,' he's expected to honor his word, so if Inoue is in the venue, the fight will probably happen soon. I'm not ruling out Oguni's chances, but he did kind of come out of nowhere, which was a surprise. What we really want to see is Casimero taking on the best, and that's Inoue.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

And who knows, maybe Inoue will be watching this fight closely. If Casimero comes out as the winner, it'll be interesting to see what he says when he sees Inoue. Casimero has been taunting Inoue on his social media platforms, so maybe this is the moment he challenges Inoue face to face. We'll just have to wait for Inoue's response, and that might push him to fight Casimero.

That could be a bit of a trap because I'm sure Casimero's camp has already considered that possibility. When a champion says 'yes,' he's expected to honor his word, so if Inoue is in the venue, the fight will probably happen soon. I'm not ruling out Oguni's chances, but he did kind of come out of nowhere, which was a surprise. What we really want to see is Casimero taking on the best, and that's Inoue.

Not sure if this could be a trap though, Casimero is battle tested already to the point of going to the backyard of the champion and beat him. So I doubt that he will be affected even if Inoue is watching closely the fight. On the other hand, he might have like that idea so that he can show the Monster his power. And maybe after he beat Oguni, he will call up Inoue for a fight and we will see what will be the reaction of Inoue, so it will be good for him to see and have Inoue watch his fight. And it could also mean that Naoya is interested to fight him in the future. And with this chance that Casimero is fighting another Japanese, Naoya will have a good look as how Casimero and gauge his power.

[Shamm]

^ It's not like a formal interview though, and it seems that it was just a ambushed interview, but it seems that there is some translator along the way, maybe it was provided by the Japanese manager of Casimero as for sure they are the one who pick him up at the Japanese airport.

Regardless, it's good to see that Casimero is in Japan already as the fight is just several days from now. It's just weird though that the date of the fight is not weekends as usually it's Sunday a fight is held. But I will not be surprised as it will be held in Asia, so maybe they doesn't care what the date is, as long as it can be made and many fans are going to see this fight, then it's all good.

Yeah it's nice to see that casimero is already in the Japan which is pretty good enough to prepare his upcoming fight as we all know that this is one of this big fights so he need to take it seriously so that he will win and claim the peoles charisma once again and if that's gonna happen then for sure a chance of facing the monster of Japan Inoue will be happen soon as possible.

[goinmerry]

Yeah it's nice to see that casimero is already in the Japan which is pretty good enough to prepare his upcoming fight as we all know that this is one of this big fights so he need to take it seriously so that he will win and claim the peoles charisma once again and if that's gonna happen then for sure a chance of facing the monster of Japan Inoue will be happen soon as possible.

I hope they won't do something stupid again while preparing for the fight lol. They should be aware of Japan's terms. I know they are really aware but they are just courageous to do something unusual. But I trust Casimero's camp that they are now in a much more professional state.

A few days before the fight, there's no need for hard preparation. Just the usual, small, and light practice routine every day.

And one more thing, Casimero badly needed this win in order to be close to being a title contender.

[Yamifoud]

Yeah it's nice to see that casimero is already in the Japan which is pretty good enough to prepare his upcoming fight as we all know that this is one of this big fights so he need to take it seriously so that he will win and claim the peoles charisma once again and if that's gonna happen then for sure a chance of facing the monster of Japan Inoue will be happen soon as possible.

I hope they won't do something stupid again while preparing for the fight lol. They should be aware of Japan's terms. I know they are really aware but they are just courageous to do something unusual. But I trust Casimero's camp that they are now in a much more professional state.

A few days before the fight, there's no need for hard preparation. Just the usual, small, and light practice routine every day.

And one more thing, Casimero badly needed this win in order to be close to being a title contender.

Oh, you mean that time when they stripped Casimero of his belt in the past? Yeah, I don't think that's even a concern now. He's moved up in weight, and honestly, he seems way more comfortable there. And don't sweat it, there's no belt to strip anymore since he's not the champ.

I mean, it'd be pretty dumb if Casimero underestimates his opponent, right? Losing could mess up his whole future, especially that dream of going toe-to-toe with Inoue. He's gotta get that, for sure.

[bisdak40]

Oh, you mean that time when they stripped Casimero of his belt in the past? Yeah, I don't think that's even a concern now. He's moved up in weight, and honestly, he seems way more comfortable there. And don't sweat it, there's no belt to strip anymore since he's not the champ.

I mean, it'd be pretty dumb if Casimero underestimates his opponent, right? Losing could mess up his whole future, especially that dream of going toe-to-toe with Inoue. He's gotta get that, for sure.

I have followed the vlogs of Casimero and that of his brother Jason Casimero because i want to know the updates on their training and based on their vlogs, they were doing well in training and he seems fit and trimmed at the moment and weight is not a problem for him.

The fight will be in three days, Thursday, and still no odds for this fight yet, maybe tomorrow bookies will put some markets/odds on this fight. It is just weird to note that in Japan they don't held boxing on a weekend. If my memory is right, Inoue's last fight was held in a Tuesday.

[Questat]

Oh, you mean that time when they stripped Casimero of his belt in the past? Yeah, I don't think that's even a concern now. He's moved up in weight, and honestly, he seems way more comfortable there. And don't sweat it, there's no belt to strip anymore since he's not the champ.

I mean, it'd be pretty dumb if Casimero underestimates his opponent, right? Losing could mess up his whole future, especially that dream of going toe-to-toe with Inoue. He's gotta get that, for sure.

I have followed the vlogs of Casimero and that of his brother Jason Casimero because i want to know the updates on their training and based on their vlogs, they were doing well in training and he seems fit and trimmed at the moment and weight is not a problem for him.

The fight will be in three days, Thursday, and still no odds for this fight yet, maybe tomorrow bookies will put some markets/odds on this fight. It is just weird to note that in Japan they don't held boxing on a weekend. If my memory is right, Inoue's last fight was held in a Tuesday.

I also checked the betting odds, but it seems they're not available yet. Most likely, the odds will be released by Wednesday, so it's a good idea to stay tuned to make sure you don't miss out on betting for this fight. While it's not a championship bout, I still believe there will be odds for this fight, and some bettors might find it interesting.

[Natalim]

And who knows, maybe Inoue will be watching this fight closely. If Casimero comes out as the winner, it'll be interesting to see what he says when he sees Inoue. Casimero has been taunting Inoue on his social media platforms, so maybe this is the moment he challenges Inoue face to face. We'll just have to wait for Inoue's response, and that might push him to fight Casimero.

That could be a bit of a trap because I'm sure Casimero's camp has already considered that possibility. When a champion says 'yes,' he's expected to honor his word, so if Inoue is in the venue, the fight will probably happen soon. I'm not ruling out Oguni's chances, but he did kind of come out of nowhere, which was a surprise. What we really want to see is Casimero taking on the best, and that's Inoue.

Not sure if this could be a trap though, Casimero is battle tested already to the point of going to the backyard of the champion and beat him. So I doubt that he will be affected even if Inoue is watching closely the fight. On the other hand, he might have like that idea so that he can show the Monster his power. And maybe after he beat Oguni, he will call up Inoue for a fight and we will see what will be the reaction of Inoue, so it will be good for him to see and have Inoue watch his fight. And it could also mean that Naoya is interested to fight him in the future. And with this chance that Casimero is fighting another Japanese, Naoya will have a good look as how Casimero and gauge his power.

What I'm saying is I've got a feeling Inoue might get caught in a bit of a bind here. After the fight, when Casimero gets interviewed, he might just throw down the gauntlet and challenge Inoue on the spot. And naturally, the crowd and Inoue's fans would expect a response. If Inoue says yes in front of all those people, he's kinda locked in, and there's no turning back. That could set the stage for a potentially epic showdown next year!

[yazher]

That could be a bit of a trap because I'm sure Casimero's camp has already considered that possibility. When a champion says 'yes,' he's expected to honor his word, so if Inoue is in the venue, the fight will probably happen soon. I'm not ruling out Oguni's chances, but he did kind of come out of nowhere, which was a surprise. What we really want to see is Casimero taking on the best, and that's Inoue.

That's why Casimero shouldn't slack on this one and use every ounce of his skills to beat Oguni in order to increase his chances of fighting Inoue in the future. surely Inoue will watch this fight because of the probability of fighting Casimero if he runs out of opponents in their weight division which has a high probability of happening. Because Tapales is no match for him and he will be beaten badly so quickly and after that who knows maybe they could finally meet inside the ring after so many disputes.

[btc_angela]

That could be a bit of a trap because I'm sure Casimero's camp has already considered that possibility. When a champion says 'yes,' he's expected to honor his word, so if Inoue is in the venue, the fight will probably happen soon. I'm not ruling out Oguni's chances, but he did kind of come out of nowhere, which was a surprise. What we really want to see is Casimero taking on the best, and that's Inoue.

That's why Casimero shouldn't slack on this one and use every ounce of his skills to beat Oguni in order to increase his chances of fighting Inoue in the future. surely Inoue will watch this fight because of the probability of fighting Casimero if he runs out of opponents in their weight division which has a high probability of happening. Because Tapales is no match for him and he will be beaten badly so quickly and after that who knows maybe they could finally meet inside the ring after so many disputes.

Yes, don't underestimate the Japanese, don't slack and push himself in this fight as this could be his ticket for the next biggest fight of Casimero's career. It could be against another trash talker in the division which is Nery. I think this is also as big as a fight for Casimero as both are bigger puncher and love to bad mouth their opponent pre-fight to create a lot of hype.

But before he can get a hold of Nery, he should take care of his business against Oguni. And as we are discussing, impressive win John Riel, this is want we want to see from you again and not decision win. So that your name will be in the discussion as well for the Inoue sweepstakes because that's also one fight that you wanted and proved that you are the one that can break down the Monster.

[bisdak40]

Odds are already out and it seems bookies are predicting that this would end via knockout so let us guess what round it may be.

Unlike Nghitumbwa, Oguni is very silent and secretive about his training camp and not so vocal about this fight so i think he is intimidated by Casimero. Since it is very hard to predict on what round this will end, i will just bet that this fight will reach over 6.5 with that @1.91 odds.

[Japinat]

Odds are already out and it seems bookies are predicting that this would end via knockout so let us guess what round it may be.

Unlike Nghitumbwa, Oguni is very silent and secretive about his training camp and not so vocal about this fight so i think he is intimidated by Casimero. Since it is very hard to predict on what round this will end, i will just bet that this fight will reach over 6.5 with that @1.91 odds.

Just as anticipated, the odds have been released in advance of tomorrow's fight. I'm quite interested in observing how Casimero plans to defeat Oguni. He's the clear favorite, judging by the odds but odd is attractive on winning by decision. The probability of that happening seems quite low. So, it's either he faces the risk of losing if the fight goes to the judges' scorecards, possibly due to hometown bias, or he might secure a victory by knocking out Oguni.

The over 6.5 rounds option is tempting, but, to be honest, I'm more inclined to take a chance on odds greater than 1.91, but I wanna say good luck to you.

[Kasabus]

@bisdak40, thanks for sharing the betting odds of the fight. i check it my own and I can see that all markets are not yet available. I was waiting for the round range as it's way easier to predict compared to predicting the exact round. Maybe i'll just check again tomorrow, maybe they'll add that, hopefully.

As this site says, https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/john-riel-casimero-vs-yukiorni-oguni-date-start-time-tv-channel-and-live-stream/b9414df5e8l61ts8q9yim887v

The time is

Casimero vs. Oguni fight date, start time
Date : Thursday October 12
Time : 10 a.m. UK / 5 a.m.​ ET
Main event ringwalks (approx): 12 p.m. UK / 7 a.m.​ ET

That's 7:00 PM tomorrow if converted.

[Hypnosis00]

I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight. Casimero taking on a relatively unknown fighter might not be the best matchup, but the fact that it's happening in Japan could set the stage for some serious hype around a potential Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

They say Casimero should secure a win by KO, so it's a smart move to bet on him for a KO victory.

Unfortunately, there aren't any betting odds available yet for Casimero winning by KO. Right now, it's just the moneyline, and the odds are only at 1.15.

[Natalim]

I'm tuning in right now, and I believe the main event is up next. I missed the undercard, but it seems there's a Filipino winner. I'll have to find out the name later, I guess. But for now, I'm really looking forward to the upcoming match.

Speaking of streaming, there are plenty of free streams on Facebook, so you all can tune in there now.

GOOD LUCK KABAYAN CASIMERO!

[coin-investor]

I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713

[Ziskinberg]

I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713

Thanks for sharing, buddy! Let's savor this fight; I'm pretty sure they won't take it down because they want us to witness our champ in action, hehe. I'm not sure who the PPV provider is for this event, but I don't really bother since most of Casimero's fights are live on Facebook, even if it's through unofficial streaming.

Right now, Casimero is in an interview, and he seems like a genuinely helpful person, quite the opposite of his boxing persona.

[bisdak40]

I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight. Casimero taking on a relatively unknown fighter might not be the best matchup, but the fact that it's happening in Japan could set the stage for some serious hype around a potential Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

They say Casimero should secure a win by KO, so it's a smart move to bet on him for a KO victory.

Unfortunately, there aren't any betting odds available yet for Casimero winning by KO. Right now, it's just the moneyline, and the odds are only at 1.15.

Yeah, limited options to bet on our local bookies but i secured a bet on my crypto bookies "over 6.5". I hope that Casimero would not catch Oguni early in the fight so that we will enjoy watching until the 10th round hehe.

ATM, Casimero's name is already called by the announcer.

Good luck to us Kabayans.

[Oilacris]

I'm pretty confident I won't miss that one. With plenty of streamers online, there's no issue catching that fight.

Yes they are and I'm sharing one of them right now, the undercard is underway now, the Casimero-Oguni is coming up later, I hope it will not be taken down because its not coming from big promotion like Top Rank or Showtime


https://www.facebook.com/100095128836955/videos/861018028882713

Thanks for sharing, buddy! Let's savor this fight; I'm pretty sure they won't take it down because they want us to witness our champ in action, hehe. I'm not sure who the PPV provider is for this event, but I don't really bother since most of Casimero's fights are live on Facebook, even if it's through unofficial streaming.

Right now, Casimero is in an interview, and he seems like a genuinely helpful person, quite the opposite of his boxing persona.

Thanks for the shared up link bro!

Right now it is already the start of the main event. Singing their national anthem. Seems like Casimero is really that in good condition and shape. Somewhat he shouldnt really be that confident
though yet it turns out that he's the favorite of this fight against with Japanese fighter. Lets see if this fight would really be able to show something if ever Casimero and Inoue
would happen but well lets just focus on this fight for now.

About on the stream then usually it wont really be taken down.Somewhat streamers do shows off those text for some donations but well its not
really that being forceful though but its up to you whether be giving out some donation or not.  

[Yaunfitda]

The Japanese fighter is taller though, and so it seems that Casimero has had a hard time against Oguni. However, Casimero is throwing big bombs and at least 4 has connected by Oguni is just eating it.

But I'm not sure if that jaw can hold with that power from Casimero. John Riel is also targeting that body.

Round 2 has just started, let's see if Casimero can score a knockout win as we wanted him to win that way. Another good round for Casimero.

[btc_angela]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

[Oilacris]

Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.

[robelneo]

The fight ended not as we wanted it seems the referee ruled it a draw because of the cut on Oguni's head the rule is if there's a cut because of the headbut before round 4 it is considered a draw, I noticed that Casimero lost sting on his punches, but he deserves this win because the cut results from punches and not from headbut there's a possibility of a draw but with this fight we have seen that Casimero is easily losing steam he caught Oguni with big punches but failed to bring him down, could be Oguni has a solid chin or Casimero losses in his punches.
I don't think he stands a chance against Inoue if they ever meet.

[freedomgo]

Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.

I'm a bit puzzled about why the fight ended in a draw. If it's true that Oguni was ahead on the scorecards, then he should have been declared the winner, especially since the fight was stopped due to a possible accidental headbutt. Casimero seems to have a streak of bad luck when it comes to facing Japanes opponents. The last time ended in a "no contest," and he was fortunate that his opponent admitted defeat and that win was recorded as TKO.

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

[Hypnosis00]

The fight ended not as we wanted it seems the referee ruled it a draw because of the cut on Oguni's head the rule is if there's a cut because of the headbut before round 4 it is considered a draw, I noticed that Casimero lost sting on his punches, but he deserves this win because the cut results from punches and not from headbut there's a possibility of a draw but with this fight we have seen that Casimero is easily losing steam he caught Oguni with big punches but failed to bring him down, could be Oguni has a solid chin or Casimero losses in his punches.
I don't think he stands a chance against Inoue if they ever meet.

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

[Oilacris]

Sorry for consecutive reply but it ended up a draw. LOL!

 Casimero do lacks stamina and its evident on Round 2 to Round 3.
 The Japanese fighter is really that having that good stamina and endurance despite of the power of Casimero but checking and had observed
that when it comes to points then Oguni does have the upperhand but unfortunately the fight had been stopped and ended up on DRAW.
Good hit for those who do able to make some bets on DRAW which odds arent that bad.

I'm a bit puzzled about why the fight ended in a draw. If it's true that Oguni was ahead on the scorecards, then he should have been declared the winner, especially since the fight was stopped due to a possible accidental headbutt. Casimero seems to have a streak of bad luck when it comes to facing Japanes opponents. The last time ended in a "no contest," and he was fortunate that his opponent admitted defeat and that win was recorded as TKO.

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

Not really that knowledgeable when it comes to boxing rules when it comes to headbutts and cuts if a fight would really be that be completely stopped and would be called a draw, because we've seen fights that even fighters have those cuts but still the fight continues. I totally much agree that when it comes to stamina then that Jap fighter is much more tougher and its true that the current
performance or fighting style of Casimero is really just that too far off for Inoue on which i could say that he wont really be standing a chance.

Imagine that Oguni caliber isnt really that much but he do struggle out on knocking him out. How much more if we do speak about Inoue? He would really be massacred inside the ring.
For the fight results then everyone is shocked, some say that Casimero win but for me i would go for Oguni when it comes to scores.

[coin-investor]

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

This is the second straight time that Casimero has shown sluggishness in his fight he easily loses steam if the fight was not stopped he could lose the fight because Oguni just eats his punches and there are many punches of Oguni coming in.
Will this become the end of Casimero's era I didn't see Casimero's old form, he usually hurt or knockout his opponents if he connected his left hook but it seems the power of those hooks is not there anymore, I hate to say that Casimero is fading I rule out an Inoue fight its risky to fight Inoue after hsi dismal showing in his last two fights.

[bisdak40]

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.

[arwin100]

Now, when it comes to Casimero's stamina, it was pretty obvious. He appeared sluggish, and his punches weren't landing accurately. I'm starting to think he might not be ready for Inoue, or perhaps he's not comfortable in his current weight class.

This is the second straight time that Casimero has shown sluggishness in his fight he easily loses steam if the fight was not stopped he could lose the fight because Oguni just eats his punches and there are many punches of Oguni coming in.
Will this become the end of Casimero's era I didn't see Casimero's old form, he usually hurt or knockout his opponents if he connected his left hook but it seems the power of those hooks is not there anymore, I hate to say that Casimero is fading I rule out an Inoue fight its risky to fight Inoue after hsi dismal showing in his last two fights.

He's out of gas earliest of the round and that is disappointing part to be seen. If he remain like that for sure he don't have any chance to win against Inoue since that Japanese monster is well known to last until 12 rounds. Many fans got disappointed since he start so strong on first round but he's catching some air when round 2 until the end of their match. Also got disappointed with the result since I really think that Casimero win that match since he heavily beaten up Oguni on that match.

We see how strong the punches of Casimero but his stamina is really a huge upset to it so maybe on his next fight he need to get a proper trainer to enhance his gas so he can last long and can deliver more solid punch to his opponent. Many are not satisfied with his todays performance and for sure his haters will laugh at him and call him old and need to retire. Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.

[Hypnosis00]

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.

Right from the get-go, it seemed like Casimero was off-balance, and he lost some of his speed. It appeared as if he was eager to finish the fight early with a knockout, which might have caused him to tire out. This strategy didn't work out so well, especially since his opponent had a strong chin and absorbed many good counter punches while continuing the fight.

It's definitely a draw, and I'm sure quite a few of us were hoping for a KO or a clear win by decision for Casimero.

Now, it makes me curious what was the odds for draw, isn't it x100?

[aioc]

 Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.

I agree Inoue will just beat him easily if this is the kind of performance he can show, he thought he could knockout Oguni in the first round but Oguni just took all his punches, and Oguni also connected, power punches of Casimero who usually drops his opponents are not there anymore I don't want to know what happens to his punches but it seems he cannot carry his power in the Super Bantamweight but unfortunately he cannot stay in the Bantamweight because he can not keep up with the weight.
Casimero is fading if this continues he will end up beaten up by a good fighter in the Super Bantamweight, Oguni is not even considered as a top prospect in that weight category.

[avp2306]

 Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.

I agree Inoue will just beat him easily if this is the kind of performance he can show, he thought he could knockout Oguni in the first round but Oguni just took all his punches, and Oguni also connected, power punches of Casimero who usually drops his opponents are not there anymore I don't want to know what happens to his punches but it seems he cannot carry his power in the Super Bantamweight but unfortunately he cannot stay in the Bantamweight because he can not keep up with the weight.
Casimero is fading if this continues he will end up beaten up by a good fighter in the Super Bantamweight, Oguni is not even considered as a top prospect in that weight category.

Even Oguni has a chance to defeat him if the fight didn't get stop since Casimero is in danger with that time since he already catching up his breath so early. It would be dangerous for him to make the match take long that's why its good that the fight has been stop and still good to see a draw match result since we know both of the boxers has been saved for that match. I agree with other statement that he needs a good training on enhancement of his stamina since this is a big problem to him for his past match since he is easily got beaten up due to this weaknesses. if we talk about Inoue here many says that he is so far to defeat that guy and I would provably agree with that since if Inoue will attack him badly while he is out of air for sure he will sleep on the canvass the same to those past boxers he defeated. Casimero need  to prove his self next time since for this match against Oguni he didn't satisfy he's fans and also his haters.

Casimero's career is slowly fading down and he need to get a big win so that he can recover back and get more bigger matches. Let see if he learns a lot from this fight since he's been totally exposed on this fight against Oguni.

[inthelongrun]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

[btc_angela]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).

[Mahanton]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).

Some people been saying that he become that too confident and not really just that serious on his training and come unprepared for this fight just because of that confidence that he could knock easily his opponent?.

Recently, we've been seeing Casimero's trash talking or provocation about Inoue to fight him but basing on what he's really showing on this recent fight then he wont really be standing a chance against the monster.
Imagine that he had go full blast in Round 1 and then gassed out on Round 2 and 3 which it is really that  evident or really that obvious basing up on how often he clinch out on the opponent or on Oguni.
When it comes to endurance then we can say that Oguni doesnt really come down so easy which means that power is already lacking on Casimeros punch on which he's really known for?

The main issue i could see for Casimero is really on his stamina and the team should really be working for that because he doesnt really last up that long and its really just that
good for Round 1 and the rest then its just a meh. 

[carlisle1]

 Also for sure many are convince that he's not ready yet to fight Inoue since we see how bad his performance and Inoue will just eat him for that.

I agree Inoue will just beat him easily if this is the kind of performance he can show, he thought he could knockout Oguni in the first round but Oguni just took all his punches, and Oguni also connected, power punches of Casimero who usually drops his opponents are not there anymore I don't want to know what happens to his punches but it seems he cannot carry his power in the Super Bantamweight but unfortunately he cannot stay in the Bantamweight because he can not keep up with the weight.
Casimero is fading if this continues he will end up beaten up by a good fighter in the Super Bantamweight, Oguni is not even considered as a top prospect in that weight category.

With that performance, even I'm one of those who wanted to see him getting that opportunity to face Inoue. It will be an easy fight for the monster, looking with those throw punches from Ogani and that reaction from Casimero.

I'm pretty sure that Inoue's' power is far better than Ogani, and imagine if a combination of Inoue landed at Casimero kissing the floor will be his
destination.

With the outcome of this fight, it's a clear win for Casimero. The fight was stop but those converted punches of Casimero were so clear
and should have been given him that win.

[Yaunfitda]

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.

Although I gave some rounds to Casimero, he seems to be hit more often here. It's good that he has a good chin, however, if Oguni has the power, he don't know, maybe he might go down. And I do agree that somewhat, his power is no longer with him, and seems to be like going to the motions, we don't know if he felt the power of Oguni or what, and then will fight in spurt and hope to land that one big shot. If this version shows against Nery? I think Nery will outslugged Casimero. And if he look at the face of Casimero after just 4 rounds, he is badly bruised already. He might be lucky that the fight has been stopped, perhaps there could be chances that he will lose this one in the judges card or even by a technical knockout. I do not think that he can last against Inoue.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

You've got a point there; it seems the hype around Casimero wasn't matched by his performance, and it's hard to see him matching up against Inoue successfully. It's pretty funny that he jokingly called Inoue his best friend in an interview before the fight.

A rematch might be possible, but it doesn't look all that likely. It's not exactly a high-profile bout, and I think Casimero might be better off moving up to face a tougher challenger, like Nery. However, beating Nery could be a tougher nut to crack than Oguni, for sure.

Casimero is self-destructing, or he is deteriorating. His promoters are spending a lot of money only to give that kind of performance for is not acceptable. He was training hard but i think he needs a legit trainer now, not just rely on his brother as this might end his career abruptly.

But he doesn't want to separate with his brother and those close to him right? But I do agree that he needs to train differently,  I mean he could still be training old school but there's a lot of new techniques that Casimero might learn with a new trainer.

He was supposed to look good in this fight but it seems he was revealed, i mean how can he call out Inoue if he kept on getting that kind of sub-par performance? A rematch is unlikely because the aim here is to get higher ranking in every fight won so i think Nery could be a good fight if his promoters can secure that.

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

[Japinat]

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

[btc_angela]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).

Some people been saying that he become that too confident and not really just that serious on his training and come unprepared for this fight just because of that confidence that he could knock easily his opponent?.

Then it could be a disaster for Casimero if he always feels overconfident in his fight and take his opponent very lightly. We've seen videos of him training very hard and even had some runs with some teenagers. But I guess that's what we also see, or that's what Casimero wanted us to see that he is really training very hard but maybe he just focused on the last couple of weeks.

Recently, we've been seeing Casimero's trash talking or provocation about Inoue to fight him but basing on what he's really showing on this recent fight then he wont really be standing a chance against the monster.
Imagine that he had go full blast in Round 1 and then gassed out on Round 2 and 3 which it is really that  evident or really that obvious basing up on how often he clinch out on the opponent or on Oguni.
When it comes to endurance then we can say that Oguni doesnt really come down so easy which means that power is already lacking on Casimeros punch on which he's really known for?

Yes, the power has somewhat diminished as Casimero is not getting any younger. He still wants to provoke Inoue and have a fight with him. That's his target for a long time. But maybe he should test himself against Luis Nery first and see if he can take his power or if he will perform better at super bantamweight because in his first 3 fights, it's all controversial.

The main issue i could see for Casimero is really on his stamina and the team should really be working for that because he doesnt really last up that long and its really just that
good for Round 1 and the rest then its just a meh. 

Yep, his stamina is lacking, you can see he open his mouth and we didn't see the "angas" that he had when he was a bantamweight. I would agree that he need to switch trainer as well and get help to improved his gas tank. Or maybe it boils down to his discipline in training?

[Kemarit]

I think it will still a go though for Casimero vs Inoue, that is, if the camp of Inoue will be interested on the Filipino base on what he shows against the sparring partner of Inoue in Oguni. I'll give the first round to Casimero as he caught and wobbled Oguni in that round. And same in the second round, although Oguni tried to have the fight in his phase and own game but Casimero fighting some good shots from time to time. Unfortunately, it ended in a technical draw because of the clash of heads. And as per the judges scorecard, two judge has Casimero ahead by score of 29-28 and the other judges had it Oguni with the same score. It's just too bad that it has to end this way, as the fight is shaping to be a good fight as neither boxers is not backing up although from what I see Casimero is ahead on my card. But I do agree with the concerns of some of the boxing fans here, seems that Casimero doesn't have the gas tank or maybe he still has problems with the climate when he arrives in Japan and wasn't able to adjust.

And on the undercard:

Upset in Tokyo, Japan! Former world championship contender Froilan Saludar (34-7-1) 🇵🇭 surprises Keita Kurihara 栗原慶太 (17-8-1) 🇯🇵 and stops him in the very first round.

https://twitter.com/PermantexG/status/1712418354760192103

[ultrloa]

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

But its not gonna happen now especially that Casimero performance is declining and Inoue cannot get anything with him so most provably that same scenario will happen that Inoue's camp will ignore Casimero request to fight him. If Casimero did just get a huge victory against Oguni maybe it became different since japanese fans might call out this fight against Inoue will happen. But for what happen and how the fight looks it seems that in next match people will lost interest to watch Casimero's match especially if he fight another japanese fighter since they would know that it will be a boring match to watch.

If he want to improve he need to get proper trainor to improve his stamina and this is what many people suggest to him since for his past couple of fights stamina is his big problem so he need to fix that to became relevant since power is there but its just he need to improve to became more better.

To many people believe at his current condition he can't defeat Inoue so hopefully he will be inspired to change his attitude and get a proper trainor so he will not end up his career losing heavily to his future opponent.

[Oasisman]

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

I don't want to see it anymore after my initial expectations from Casimero became true when I saw his fight against Oguni. I was actually expecting not much from him after I saw a video surrounding the internet about Casimero gaining a weight that was very evident because of his big stomach while preparing for this fight. I knew for sure that he's going to lose a stamina.
The Japanese guy was really intelligent for punishing Casimero with a lot of body shots, causing him to even lose stamina. If the headbutt didn't happen, Casimero will most probably lost that fight.
Therefore, I don't want to see a fight between Casimero and Inoue anymore. I've already lost interest from it.

[coin-investor]

The Japanese guy was really intelligent for punishing Casimero with a lot of body shots, causing him to even lose stamina. If the headbutt didn't happen, Casimero will most probably lost that fight.
Therefore, I don't want to see a fight between Casimero and Inoue anymore. I've already lost interest from it.

After this fight there are a lot of doubts and uncertainty about where Casinero is going now, this is supposed to be a cherry-picked fight for him to gain ground and ask Inoue to fight him, but Casimero cannot dare Inoue to fight him, Inoue will become an overwhelming favorite if Inoue agreed to fight him.
Casimero should go for top fighters now, it's no used cherry picking opponents he is fast losing his reputation as a knockout artist.

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

[Jating]

I've seen this Youtube video and not sure if this is true or not as I can't find any source for that. But it says that the JBC, I'm assuming that it was the Japanese boxing commission, has overturned the decision and declared Casimero as the winner as there was no head butt, but clearly a punch that did damage to Oguni,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQxS59OIJ4

I just hate the background music though.

Maybe someone can confirmed it or not if indeed the decision was overturned by the Japan.

[bisdak40]

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

[danherbias07]

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

[Distinctin]

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

I'm with you on that one; I'm not quite sure what he was thinking either. Maybe he felt the pressure to secure a KO victory. People had their doubts after his last fight where he didn't end up with a KO win, so this time, right from the first round, he was super aggressive, all out for that knockout. It's possible he underestimated Oguni and wanted to prove to the fans that he's ready to take on their biggest champion, Inoue.

It's important that he hasn't suffered a loss since, and a draw is certainly better than a loss. But that result is indeed quite controversial. I think the boxing organization should investigate it further, as it wasn't entirely clear whether it was the headbutt that caused the cut or Casimero's powerful punches.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

     -   I watched that, and the result was a draw. At the beginning of the fight, our stoner showed quite a good performance, but as the round increased, he seemed to struggle with what he wanted to happen to knock down his opponent.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with his performance in that fight scene. Though I saw that he struggled and was hurt, obviously it was a physical fight, it seems like he didn't really give his all. If you notice that when it was announced that they were a draw, he just shook his head, as if it were a waste of tiredness and difficulty accepting his opponent's punches.

[carlisle1]

     -   I watched that, and the result was a draw. At the beginning of the fight, our stoner showed quite a good performance, but as the round increased, he seemed to struggle with what he wanted to happen to knock down his opponent.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with his performance in that fight scene. Though I saw that he struggled and was hurt, obviously it was a physical fight, it seems like he didn't really give his all. If you notice that when it was announced that they were a draw, he just shook his head, as if it were a waste of tiredness and difficulty accepting his opponent's punches.

He should finish the fight as early as round 1 as he mentioned that he can do it he just don't want the fans to be disappointed
as if he finished it that early the live viewers might be disappointed.

I don't think that the result should be a draw as he got more solid conversions, and he also has that attempt to finish it but the ref gives Ogani time
to stand up and rest a little.

Good to learn that if you really can take down your opponent better to do it as early as possible, this will avoid surprise result like this.

[coin-investor]

I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

That's because Casimero is too excited to knock out Oguni in the fastest possible way underestimating Oguni's stamina and power but unfortunately, it backfires he is the one losing steam and getting hit a lot, and he may hit Oguni with his own punches but he is able to stand those punches.

While watching the fight I was wondering where Casimero's power went, those were the punches that hurt and knockout all his past opponents now it seems he cannot carry his power in the upper weight division if he cannot carry his power then he is just an ordinary fighter and Fulton can easily knock him out before he can go to Inoue.

[bittraffic]

I saw lots of haymaker punches from Casimero like he was trying to get a lucky punch that would end the fight, that's not how boxing works, he also lacks the basics. I think he is too impatient about winning and climbing the ranks to get his shot against Inoue but he doesn't notice that by doing this he is just making the gap longer.
After watching him against the Japanese Oguni I didn't see good boxing and I bet many Filipino boxing fans would feel the same. He is forcing a knockout but he ain't that young Casimero anymore. He should think about taking it slow and using his experience as his main weapon instead of fighting like a 25 year old boxer with lots of stamina reserved, he ain't that guy anymore.
In round 2, I saw him resting and breathing heavily from his mouth, which is why I have round 2 to Oguni because he took advantage of that and let his punches fly all over Casimero.

That's because Casimero is too excited to knock out Oguni in the fastest possible way underestimating Oguni's stamina and power but unfortunately, it backfires he is the one losing steam and getting hit a lot, and he may hit Oguni with his own punches but he is able to stand those punches.

While watching the fight I was wondering where Casimero's power went, those were the punches that hurt and knockout all his past opponents now it seems he cannot carry his power in the upper weight division if he cannot carry his power then he is just an ordinary fighter and Fulton can easily knock him out before he can go to Inoue.

I think he gassed out already in the 2nd round but he tried to steal the 2nd round before the ringbell. It's in the 3rd that I see more haymakers. If one of those landed right, it could make him win.

It's a wonder why it was a draw though. Obviously, Casimero landed more shots while Oguni did more at the back of Casimero's head. This is the advantage of having the fight in your home country, the favor will always be with their dog. Its a rob.

[Baofeng]

The worst thing about this fight for Casimero he is getting hurt by punches from a guy who is not known to be a knockout artist and has a low knockout percentage, unless he shows something in his next fight, I'm afraid Casimero's career will be over in a couple of years.

Yeah, he was exposed big time. Casimero lacks the stamina of a true champion. He just relied on that one big punch that might not land as Oguni was also intelligent and he countered every punch that Casimero threw. If no changes on the trainer and conditioning coach/nutritionist then i agree with you that Quadro Alas' career will be over in a couple of years. That kind of performance was B level and he will just last 3 or 4 rounds if his opponent is Inoue.

Right, a supposedly tune up fight for him turns out to be a disaster, as he was visibly looks very turn from the start of the fight. And just like those big punchers, they are looking for that one lucky punch that will change the complexion of the fight itself and Casimero wasn't able to hit Oguni. Although he still has the power, very hard to see how he can the face of 122 lbs with this kind of another controversial technical draw.

So I'm not seeing any Inoue fight for him in the future, and for sure there will be a lot of bashers on Casimero because of the result of this fight. And with this kind of performance, I'm seeing that it is the start of his decline, sad to say.

[Mahanton]

I can't understand what they are saying, but it seems that the fight ended in a draw? So another controversial ending for Casimero here, we are expecting that he will be coming with a big win here.

Anyways, it will leave a bad taste for Casimero fans, this is supposedly a cherry pick fight for him but Oguni is really very difficult for Casimero as he is very tall and knows how to used his reach. Although Casimero hit him cleanly, he remains standing.

The fight ended in a draw due to an unintentional headbutt.

I have a feeling that the early draw is a blessing in disguise. Casimero seems too predictable. And his stamina is losing even if the fight is still too early. I hope this is a wake-up call to Casimero that he really needs a serious training camp the next time he gets a scheduled fight. He needs to train in a place where there are zero to fewer friends to avoid temptations. His brother Jayson is not giving him anything special. Also, it is better to have a reliable dietician and a conditioning coach.

I won't be surprised if Inoue will still pick Casimero early next year if he wins over Tapales.

Ok, just what I thought, yes, I would agree that Casimero doesn't seem to be very special in this fight, I mean not just against Oguni, but when we step up at 122 lbs, the power is no longer there. Yeah, he hit Oguni will clear power shots, but the guy is not going down. And his stamina here is very question, seems to be very tired after round 2 and he was also eating a lot of shots from Oguni.

Yes, If Inoue picks him up after beating Tapales and unified all the belts. I think Casimero will suffer a brutal knockout. (Sorry, am I fan of Casimero, but if he shows this version against Inoue, very slow and doesn't have a gas tank, Inoue will eat him alive and will put a beating worst than he did to Fulton).

Some people been saying that he become that too confident and not really just that serious on his training and come unprepared for this fight just because of that confidence that he could knock easily his opponent?.

Then it could be a disaster for Casimero if he always feels overconfident in his fight and take his opponent very lightly. We've seen videos of him training very hard and even had some runs with some teenagers. But I guess that's what we also see, or that's what Casimero wanted us to see that he is really training very hard but maybe he just focused on the last couple of weeks.

Being confident and getting that reckless or not minding much about your training would really be that a giving that huge effect or toll about your performance. If we do really trying to look on Casimeros
performance and those flaws then stamina is really that main issue but it seems that it do becomes worst and thats really that obvious with the recent fight that we've seen. The only edge or weapon
he had is having that strong one time blows on which it  could really knock you down but if we do speak about on trying to make use of the same strategy with those blows then it is really that do easy
to make some counter and we've seen that Oguni does have that reach advantage and we've seen that this guy is tough too on which it would really be that showing that power
isnt really that relevant anymore on Casimero.

Then how he would really be facing up Inoue with that kind of fighting condition or performance? He doesnt even have that footwork or even having that good defense.
Body defense? not that quite and this is really that a favorite spot. 

[lionheart78]

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

I somehow inclined to agree that with the current performance of Casimero, he will have a hard time beating Inoue.  I see how careless Casimero is when attacking his opponent which may give Inoue a chance to early KO Casimero if ever they meet each other in the ring.

However, we can't rule out the possibility that Casimero might improve; we've observed his weakness, particularly his endurance, which his training camp should address.

Training is there to improve a boxer, so we might see a lot of improvement once Casimero camp had spotted the area that needs improvement.

In an interview, he expressed his desire to become the first champion from their boxing gym. This seems like a formidable challenge in the current division, with Inoue still reigning supreme.

It is always an honor to be the first, so there is no doubt that aside from defeating Inoue, he wanted to make his name marked on the history of his recent camp so  I believe Casimero needs to improve a lot.


It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

[Yamifoud]

It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

I would consider Japan to be one of the most reputable countries for boxing. I rarely ever see a bad decision or blatantly biased referees. Those sort of things happen in the US and UK regularly but I just don't think it's common in Japan. I've watched the replay and slowed it down during these supposed controversial moments and in neither instance does it show Casimero landing a legal blow. People are making assumptions due to their favoritism but the referee made the right call to determine it was a headbutt that caused the injury to Oguni.

[Yamifoud]

It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

I would consider Japan to be one of the most reputable countries for boxing. I rarely ever see a bad decision or blatantly biased referees. Those sort of things happen in the US and UK regularly but I just don't think it's common in Japan. I've watched the replay and slowed it down during these supposed controversial moments and in neither instance does it show Casimero landing a legal blow. People are making assumptions due to their favoritism but the referee made the right call to determine it was a headbutt that caused the injury to Oguni.

Now, that was a very clear picture of what happened, but wasn't Oguni already injured before the headbutt occurred? Sometimes what we see in a picture doesn't tell the whole story. I'm referring to the impact of that headbutt versus the impact of what Casimero had been throwing throughout the fight.

To claim that Japan is one of the most reputable countries for boxing, I have my doubts. I watched Casimero's last fight against a Japanese opponent. It was initially ruled as a no contest but was later announced as a TKO. If they truly scrutinized the situation before making a decision, they could have awarded the win to the deserving fighter right then and there.

[Jating]

It is just another controversial stoppage and a technical draw.  From the start of the fight, I felt uncomfortable, when the referee did not count a knockdown when the Japanese boxer fell down. It is obvious that there is a connection and wether it was blocked or not, as long as  it is not an illegal punch, it should have been considered a KD.

It's a drawback when a boxer competes in a country with a less reputable boxing scene. There can be instances of questionable actions, but proving them falls to us, although not necessarily through legal means. It's not just the supposed knockdown; the final sequence was highly controversial. It was supposed to be a knockout, yet they ruled it as a head butt. If Casimero had managed to conclude the fight in the first round, it could have been a game-changer for him. The hype around his career would have surged, potentially setting the stage for an Inoue vs. Casimero showdown.

I would consider Japan to be one of the most reputable countries for boxing. I rarely ever see a bad decision or blatantly biased referees. Those sort of things happen in the US and UK regularly but I just don't think it's common in Japan. I've watched the replay and slowed it down during these supposed controversial moments and in neither instance does it show Casimero landing a legal blow. People are making assumptions due to their favoritism but the referee made the right call to determine it was a headbutt that caused the injury to Oguni.

Now, that was a very clear picture of what happened, but wasn't Oguni already injured before the headbutt occurred? Sometimes what we see in a picture doesn't tell the whole story. I'm referring to the impact of that headbutt versus the impact of what Casimero had been throwing throughout the fight.

To claim that Japan is one of the most reputable countries for boxing, I have my doubts. I watched Casimero's last fight against a Japanese opponent. It was initially ruled as a no contest but was later announced as a TKO. If they truly scrutinized the situation before making a decision, they could have awarded the win to the deserving fighter right then and there.

It's really hard to say if it is a head butt that really do the damage or it was a shot that Casimero throws that inflicted that cut on Oguni. It's not the question on the referee though, but I do agree that every country is biased towards their fighters. But in this fight I think Casimero is really doing some damage on Oguni already and it just so happen that either the head butt comes first or that Casimero hit him, with the size of his gloves causing that big gash on Oguni face. And then the referee doing his job, calling a halt and consulted with the ring physician. And most likely it will be controversial to think that in boxing we need to have the benefit of the replay and see what really happen before the referee making that big decision to stop and then calling it a technical draw.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

On the contrary, he was exposed, he doesn't have the gas tank and stamina, he was open for counter, doesn't have that reflex to protect himself, and then the poweris not there. Sure he hit Oguni and put him on skates, but it's not enough to even score a 8 count from the referee. And to be fair with the referee, he did good in officiating this fight, no biased whatsoever and stop it because Oguni can't see anymore and the injury is close to the eye.

I still want to witness him face Inoue, if only to finally settle their unfinished business. Given the way Casimero performed, fans of Inoue would eagerly anticipate their idol silencing him. The word "afraid" should no longer be in use, as Casimero's current condition is insufficient to defeat Inoue in a fight.

I somehow inclined to agree that with the current performance of Casimero, he will have a hard time beating Inoue.  I see how careless Casimero is when attacking his opponent which may give Inoue a chance to early KO Casimero if ever they meet each other in the ring.

Yes, for sure Inoue has seen this fight already and he himself is not impressed by the performance of Casimero to the point that maybe he is no longer wants to fight him. And even if Casimero win against Oguni, given the fact with the way he handle himself, with no stamina and he was hit by Oguni, I do agree that his current condition is not enough to defeat the Monster.

Inoue right now is a complete package, and chances are very high that we will be the 2nd man to have two unified belt. The first one is Crawford, at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. And Inoue with his scheduled fight against Tapales this December. Casimero will have to go home enjoy his pay check but somewhat will have to think about his career at time is running out for him.

[bisdak40]

Yes, for sure Inoue has seen this fight already and he himself is not impressed by the performance of Casimero to the point that maybe he is no longer wants to fight him. And even if Casimero win against Oguni, given the fact with the way he handle himself, with no stamina and he was hit by Oguni, I do agree that his current condition is not enough to defeat the Monster.

Inoue right now is a complete package, and chances are very high that we will be the 2nd man to have two unified belt. The first one is Crawford, at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. And Inoue with his scheduled fight against Tapales this December. Casimero will have to go home enjoy his pay check but somewhat will have to think about his career at time is running out for him.

For now, it is safe to say that Inoue vs Casimero is out of the picture with that horrible performance, and what makes it worse is the statement of Casimero after the fight that seems to me that he was just there to take the money and not minding if the fight fans were enjoying the show.

I've read an article that says the fight between Tapales and Inoue might be on December 26, seems legit as both guys are hitting the gym at this point preparing for that big event, not only for Inoue but also for Tapales. No one knows that there might be an upset as Tapales is not nicknamed The Nightmare for nothing hehe.

[Kemarit]

Yes, for sure Inoue has seen this fight already and he himself is not impressed by the performance of Casimero to the point that maybe he is no longer wants to fight him. And even if Casimero win against Oguni, given the fact with the way he handle himself, with no stamina and he was hit by Oguni, I do agree that his current condition is not enough to defeat the Monster.

Inoue right now is a complete package, and chances are very high that we will be the 2nd man to have two unified belt. The first one is Crawford, at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. And Inoue with his scheduled fight against Tapales this December. Casimero will have to go home enjoy his pay check but somewhat will have to think about his career at time is running out for him.

For now, it is safe to say that Inoue vs Casimero is out of the picture with that horrible performance, and what makes it worse is the statement of Casimero after the fight that seems to me that he was just there to take the money and not minding if the fight fans were enjoying the show.

That is too bad if Casimero is just looking for paycheck after paycheck moving forward. And if he keeps going this way, sooner or later he might not have these big money coming in and hopefully he had some already invested because it seems that if you follow his social media, he is very flamboyant and living the lifestyle as if money is not going to be a problem for him in the future.

I've read an article that says the fight between Tapales and Inoue might be on December 26, seems legit as both guys are hitting the gym at this point preparing for that big event, not only for Inoue but also for Tapales. No one knows that there might be an upset as Tapales is not nicknamed The Nightmare for nothing hehe.

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

[Natalim]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

[Hypnosis00]

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

He was expected to win that fight convincingly, but we were surprised by his performance. If you watched that fight, you could really see how badly he wanted to knock out his opponent. It was evident right from the very first round of the fight that this was his intention. But we should never underestimate his opponent; after all, he was a former bantamweight champion, so he has some skills and the mindset of a champion.

I'm not sure what's next for Casimero, but the fact that he didn't lose still keeps him in a ranking that could potentially improve over time. I know he's very eager to fight Inoue, but I think he should let that opportunity pass for now. There's a time for everything, and what he needs to do is train well, get some more fights under his belt, and make sure he impress the fans. That's when the hype for their matchup will be created again.

For now, we can only speculate on the possible outcome of an Inoue vs. Tapales fight, as this is shaping up to be the most significant bout in the lower division so far.

[Jating]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

It might work on Tapales the positive way, at least he is not afraid of the monster. Unlike many of his opponents in the past that like trash talking Inoue but was a total different boxer in the ring.

As for Casimero I do agree with what we have seen in this fight,

- no gas tank or doesn't have that stamina
- feel in love with his one hit punch, but when it didn't work he don't know what to do
- should be getting a new trainer. People around him are just kissing his ass
- his power is no longer there at 122 lbs
- his age is showing in this fight

He should not be obsessed with a Inoue fight since this kind of performance will not get Inoue excited to fight him.

[avp2306]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

No one gonna buy that knowing that Casimero in prime is at different level, but I love the confidence of the guy since he really want to get the nerve of Inoue but we all know here that the Japanese guy have the advantage in all aspect. But let see if there's a surprise will happen and Tapales will be the one declared as a winner since for sure this will create a big noise on boxing scene knowing that many fans believe that Tapales will lost on their match.

I also don't know if he have enough preparation so lets see if he can able to last at round 12 since if he take all slow and let Inoue dominate him maybe we cannot see him last for long rounds knowing that Inoue is always looking for early knock out to make the fight not last for more long rounds.

[bisdak40]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

No one gonna buy that knowing that Casimero in prime is at different level, but I love the confidence of the guy since he really want to get the nerve of Inoue but we all know here that the Japanese guy have the advantage in all aspect. But let see if there's a surprise will happen and Tapales will be the one declared as a winner since for sure this will create a big noise on boxing scene knowing that many fans believe that Tapales will lost on their match.

I also don't know if he have enough preparation so lets see if he can able to last at round 12 since if he take all slow and let Inoue dominate him maybe we cannot see him last for long rounds knowing that Inoue is always looking for early knock out to make the fight not last for more long rounds.

Preparation-wise, Tapales has been training for almost two months now in the US with regards to his fight with Inoue, that's how prepared he was considering that the fight will tentatively happen on December 26, more than two months from now. I could say that Tapales has the confidence now because it is not easy to unify two belts and he got it with passion.

Back to Casimero, coming from the word of his promoter that the Inoue fight that they are chasing might not take place anymore due to Casimero's consecutive lack-luster performance. We can't blame them as their ward was not fighting to the hype he was given.

[Kemarit]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

I wouldn't say Tapales is trying to be Casimero or what. We haven't seen him being brandish in the ring or something, perhaps he just want to show that he is confident in his abilities and not afraid of the Monster.

And this is what I have been saying about Casimero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_f0RZGeiQ

He might end up with nothing if he stops fighting because he just give his money away and this the problem not just with Casimero. All other boxers in the past lost their money this way. Didn't save some for them and in the end, all those that they help disappear.

[Distinctin]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

I wouldn't say Tapales is trying to be Casimero or what. We haven't seen him being brandish in the ring or something, perhaps he just want to show that he is confident in his abilities and not afraid of the Monster.

And this is what I have been saying about Casimero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_f0RZGeiQ

He might end up with nothing if he stops fighting because he just give his money away and this the problem not just with Casimero. All other boxers in the past lost their money this way. Didn't save some for them and in the end, all those that they help disappear.

Pacman has been giving money to the poor, and I don't think that would significantly affect Casimero's finances. He is earning a substantial amount of money as a popular boxer, and it would be unwise for him to give away everything he has; of course, he can only afford to lose a certain amount.

Casimero is not done, I can assure you. Once the fight between Inoue vs. Tapales takes place and Inoue emerges as the winner, the discussions will likely focus on Casimero, Nery, and Inoue if he chooses to remain in the same division.

So, let's not overreact; giving money would not make a boxer poor. In fact, one of the major reasons I know that makes them poor is gambling and other vices.

[bisdak40]

And this is what I have been saying about Casimero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_f0RZGeiQ

He might end up with nothing if he stops fighting because he just give his money away and this the problem not just with Casimero. All other boxers in the past lost their money this way. Didn't save some for them and in the end, all those that they help disappear.

I have seen this video also in his own vlog account and I could that it is just a penny to what he earned on the Oguni fight, besides the amount he gives was not so big and most of the recipients are his relatives so it is not so alarming that he do that.

I'm sure that Casimero knew the consequences if he became broke and he already saved for his future if we take a closer look at his lifestyle, it is not as lavish as Manny's when he was beginning to earn millions of dollars. Gambling is one cause for a man to go broke, if Casimero gambles irresponsibly then that might bring him down.

Will lock the thread in a few hours and as usual thanks for all of your comments guys.

I still hope that the door to Inoue vs Casimero fight is still open so the business between them will be over.

[Slow death]

Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.

Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

looking at this fight and just as some people have already said, Casimero's performance was very low during the fight, it didn't even seem like he was seen as the favorite, the comments from people that I could read, it was as if most people looked at He's like a fighter who uses dirty methods to win the fight, he had a lower body posture, so he was in a position where he could easily headbutt his opponent, but I don't believe he did that out of malicious intent, it's probably a his fighting strategy. but this didn't go down very well with his image from now on, with this poor performance it will be difficult to attract the attention of other good fighters to fight against him

I had already commented on this elsewhere, that currently boxing is accompanied by marketing, when people create high expectations about a fighter and that fighter's fight draws a lot of attention and during the fight the guy doesn't perform well to the point of not meeting people's high expectations, then that fighter loses attention from people and other fighters. he will need to train a lot and try to fight against a very strong boxer and when he wins convincingly then he will attract the attention of other strong boxers