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September 03, 2023, 09:44:14 PM
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The sudden and recent emergence of Saudi Arabia Pro League in the timeline of football in the world is becoming a problem to the European football clubs.No one thought that it will happen this way. We would have thought that it will take Saudi Arabia more than 10 years to be the standard d that that they are now, but the presence of Ronaldo made everything happen quick. You can see that some coaches from the European side are now complaining about the transfer window of Saudi Arabia because they are used to snatching good players from the European side. This is a problem.
I don't think it will cause any problems other than being something good from a business point of view. See how much profit is generated from transferring players there and benefits the teams who want to sell their players. Moreover, they can't always target the best players in Europe because the players in question don't want to play there and choose to stay in Europe, so that has become an obstacle for some Saudi Pro League teams.

No problems to be expected, but this is something that should be considered as progress for the football industry. Take the positives and put your ego aside to continue wanting to see some of the top players stay in Europe with a form that is not as good as before.

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September 04, 2023, 09:56:50 AM
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I don't think it will cause any problems other than being something good from a business point of view. See how much profit is generated from transferring players there and benefits the teams who want to sell their players. Moreover, they can't always target the best players in Europe because the players in question don't want to play there and choose to stay in Europe, so that has become an obstacle for some Saudi Pro League teams.

No problems to be expected, but this is something that should be considered as progress for the football industry. Take the positives and put your ego aside to continue wanting to see some of the top players stay in Europe with a form that is not as good as before.

Just from a business point of view, European teams suffer very much - the Saudis inflate the prices of players and their salaries very much, so many clubs lose income or even become unprofitable. But I don't see any problems in this - if they can't do business in an organized way (introducing fair salary ceilings, minimum and maximum budget for the club), then let them suffer. In business, there is always someone who suffers and someone who wins.

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September 04, 2023, 01:45:09 PM
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It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.
It's obviously not a waste for them since it can boost their economy greatly if they can host the Football World Cup there, and they get sponsors from all around the world if they have more star players than they already have. Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar Jr. are already among the big names they have and I'm pretty sure that a lot more will come in the future, as you said, these star players also bring millions of fans along with them when they transfer there.

We can already see that the leagues in Saudi Arabia have started getting more and more attention worldwide just because of the star players that they have got lately, and we will see that attention increasing over time, and leagues in Europe are losing viewership all because of this.

There is another interesting fact. If Saudi Arabia can host the Fifa World Cup, don't think they will earn revenue from the World Cup event. Let's talk about the Qatar World Cup 2022. The total cost was around 220 Billion US Dollars while Fifaf earned around $7.5 Billion Dollars from the World Cup event. How much money Qatar may have earned? What do you think about it?

Qatar was unable to collect even 30 billion dollars yet this is the most successful world cup so far. So why countries still organize world cup while they lose 90% of their investment. I will leave this interesting question here.
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September 04, 2023, 02:14:26 PM
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Saudi Arabia Pro League wants to dominate the football market, and they are trying to attract players to their league. Let's say they continue to spend money on players for the next ten years. Does the European Football Federation have any stars willing to stay?
FIFA needs to step in to manage the Saudi Arabia Pro League transfer market. Otherwise, the consequences will be unpredictable.

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September 04, 2023, 03:38:43 PM
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It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.
In fact, it will benefit them because their league can have popular players from Europe who can make the matches even more interesting. As for the stadium, I'm sure Saudi Arabia will make a very magnificent stadium that may not exist in other countries. We know that Saudi Arabia's financial resources are very large, making it possible for the country to have all the best.

Maybe some conditions will be given by the Arab government to these famous players, but it seems that it is not a problem because it is not a matter of principle. On the other hand, these famous players will feel comfortable playing in the Saudi League because they will be given facilities that exceed what they got in the previous league.
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September 04, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
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It would be for sure. They are reeling in powerhouses of players which will definitely show in the performance of European Football moving forward. It would even affect its viewership since now, if you want to watch your idols play you'd have to tune in to the Saudi League instead of waiting for these new bloods from the European League to ripen up and be on par with the veterans. In any case this doesn't mean that the European League is done for. It's well established enough to suffer such defeat so I think the transfer of these players to newer leagues would incite major hiccups in the viewership and performance of the European League, but overtime the skill and anticipation of the people will catch up with it again.
as I said before that the large transfers carried out by teams from the SPL do not mean to give bad things to the European league. I mean, even though many star players were bought by teams from Saudi Arabia, that does not mean the league in Europe will lose its popularity because Europe is already very well established in terms of popularity and it is known throughout the country that the European league is the biggest football league in the world, so even though it lost several star players will not be a problem for teams in Europe and will still have many fans and spectators who will watch every match.

and the efforts of teams from the SPL are the same as teams in Europe in the past when they increased their popularity before they could be known throughout the country and this will be mutually beneficial between teams from Europe and teams from the SPL when European teams get big profits from offers of money with large values and the saudi arabia team got the star player they wanted and to be honest i support this.
That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

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That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.

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September 04, 2023, 10:59:10 PM
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You could ask yourselves what it is that's at the bottom of it all, because the transfers are the effect, but what is the cause?
IMO it's the money that Saudis have in abundance, but how did they get that much money? Because they're controlling oil prices and the whole world is bidding for it.

How could they change this situation?
They could buy it from other countries, but those that have oil deposits would require money to build infrastructure, and the West doesn't want to invest in unstable land like Venezuela, which has more oil than SA but we all know what's going on there.

They could also force people to use alternative energy sources like electric cars and that's what the EU is trying to do.

The players are businessmen, they'll work for the one who pays the most. I don't blame them and I don't blame the EU managers who can't pay as much as the Saudis. It's mainly the problem of SA making the world depend on their oil and getting filthy rich in the process while the US was printing petro dollars to pay for it all.

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Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.
Saudi important people strive to make their football league comparable with those found in Europe. They keep making enormous enticing offers for European players and signing them over, which in my opinion is not how to increase the team's excellence. Everything is an extended procedure, and we get tremendous results if they focus first on creating the structures of these teams before bringing in European players who are only here to earn treble or quadruple salaries compared to their previous ones they earned in Europe. Saudi Pro League clubs are aggressively scouting promising players and making beneficial signings during the transfer window.

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That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.
Top European players have very good potential to strengthen the team so that almost all Saudi teams are willing to spend a very large budget to be able to sign some of these top European players but not all of the top European players who go with the Saudi team are senior players or players who are nearing retirement because there are also many young players joining and interested in playing in the Saudi League.
This is like a diamond trade for the Saudi League which only attracts most of the star players to stop by and compete there but also has a bad impact on the development of the European League which can only rely on the few star players which was previously has.

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That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Isn't it really still negligible? There was a time when some starts went to China and there was a time when some stars went to the MLS, but none of those leagues has really turned into serious competition for Europe. If I am not completely mistaken, the players that now went to the SPL are what, 15 or 20 or how many? This doesn't change much. It kind of reminds me of forks and I have read this somewhere else already, you can't fork the ecosystem, but you can fork the blockchain.

Europe has not just been Messi + Ronaldo. It has been so much more and there is a reason it is the most prestigious place on Earth to play football. Messi vs. Ronaldo in La Liga is not the same as Messi vs. Ronaldo in the SPL.

Let's assume that La Liga from 10 years ago would have been integrated into the SPL. And then? Nothing would be the same anymore, no more Champions League between  Liverpool and Barcelona or Madrid and Manchester City. This - if at the SPL they really plan to become a global competitor - will take at least a decade to build something visible. It won't be done with just transferring 20 players per season from Europe to Saudi Arabia.

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This is crossing a limit. Why these Europeans always behave like cry-babies? No one ever complained when a lot of Asian, Latin American and African players decided to opt for the UEFA leagues instead of their own local leagues. Leagues in countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Japan and Nigeria suffered as a result of this. However no one ever published any news articles examining the negatives that non-European leagues had to deal with. Now the Saudi clubs are giving Europeans a taste of their own medicine and suddenly there is so much hue and cry. There can be no better example for hypocrisy.
That's a natural instinct, whenever you feel like you are losing control over something you start blaming others for it, and you won't be able to see what you did in the past that might have caused something similar to another entity. Similarly, they were obviously happy to see good players coming to Europe and joining their clubs as they had improved the quality of football in the region and brought in a lot of fans and money for the clubs and their sponsors, etc.

And now when they see they are losing their key players to another country or region, they can't digest that and I don't blame them for not being able to do that because it's not easy seeing all the good players moving out and taking their fans and everything with them and the quality of football reducing as well.

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That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.
right answer and this is what I want that we have to think positively about this scenario even though there will be a large transfer carried out by the saudi arabia league it does not mean there will be a loss and for sure it will be mutually beneficial in the future and we have to leave the worries about the bad that It will happen when some European star players move to Saudi Arabia, it not mean Europe will lose star players because Europe is always building new talents with younger and very reliable players like Haaland, Mbappe etc who are currently still in Europe and I'm sure Europe not lack of star players and also will not lose its popularity because we all know that almost all European football has academics to get new talent with very reliable talent.

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Saudi Arabia Pro League wants to dominate the football market, and they are trying to attract players to their league. Let's say they continue to spend money on players for the next ten years. Does the European Football Federation have any stars willing to stay?
FIFA needs to step in to manage the Saudi Arabia Pro League transfer market. Otherwise, the consequences will be unpredictable.

The reason behind the Saudi League buying the top class European players like Ronaldo to try to dominant their supremacy over the other team.This also include the European Football Federation,because many players of Europe was in Saudi Arabia League.This was the master move by the Saudi Arabia League and their government of Saudi Arabia Football club.The Saudi Arabia League are ready to get the contract of players till ten years and the player may not back at the ten year contract.This was the big move by the Saudi Arabia League and can be find only by the old football fans.

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Let's assume that La Liga from 10 years ago would have been integrated into the SPL. And then? Nothing would be the same anymore, no more Champions League between  Liverpool and Barcelona or Madrid and Manchester City. This - if at the SPL they really plan to become a global competitor - will take at least a decade to build something visible. It won't be done with just transferring 20 players per season from Europe to Saudi Arabia.

What you wrote is 100% true but the Saudis don't plan for short term either. In some cases, the players receive contracts for the period after their active career so that they can better build up the local system with their help. It won't be possible to become dangerous to European football overnight, but what will happen in 5-10 years? Many European clubs are heavily in debt, while Saudi clubs are essentially printing money with oil. Money doesn't matter for them and with the right strategy the SPL could become a threat.

By the way, there are now >30 well-known players that I at least know

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September 24, 2023, 11:58:02 PM
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most of players who transfer to Saudi league, want lot of money  the european football create always new players young players
the players have limited time of best playing of their life  , the same format very dificult at an old age , most athletes get tired after a period of play and effort
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October 02, 2023, 04:52:15 PM
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most of players who transfer to Saudi league, want lot of money  the european football create always new players young players
the players have limited time of best playing of their life  , the same format very dificult at an old age , most athletes get tired after a period of play and effort

The money played the big role in the game of the Saudi Arabia league as compared to the European football league.The football players who had enough experience in the game was hired by the Saudi Arabia league.The huge money reason for the Saudi Arabia League was the government of Saudi Arabia had helped the Saudi Arabia Club in the funds based.This was the big lesson for the European nation to sponsor their country owned club to avoid of good players moved to the Saudi Arabia League for the money purpose.

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March 17, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
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In the short term, all the shopping of all the expensive players last summer hasn't changed much. European football remains the most popular in the world and the Saudi league doesn't even come close. The question that arises is how long the Saudis will continue to pay extremely large sums of money. Many players are also dissatisfied with their situation. It's not just the cultural difference that matters, but also the weather. I can now imagine that the peak for the saudi league has been reached.

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March 17, 2024, 10:52:18 PM
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In the short term, all the shopping of all the expensive players last summer hasn't changed much. European football remains the most popular in the world and the Saudi league doesn't even come close. The question that arises is how long the Saudis will continue to pay extremely large sums of money. Many players are also dissatisfied with their situation. It's not just the cultural difference that matters, but also the weather. I can now imagine that the peak for the saudi league has been reached.
Saudi Arabian clubs knows too well that the only way they can bring many European based players to their league is by spending more than European clubs will do and that's what they've been doing over the last three transfer windows. But despite the huge amount of money that Saudi leagues uses to get these European based players they are still not on the same class with European football at least for now and that's why a lot of young European based footballs are still not accepting offers to join the Saudi league despite the mouthwatering deals they offer.
Gone are those days when football is majorly played for passion of the game but that's actually not now because at the moment, a lot of footballers at just playing for the money and that's why they're easily convinced to leave their former clubs because of their excessive love for money

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March 17, 2024, 11:57:27 PM
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Saudi league will bust in a few years. The teams aren't profitable. The viewership isn't there and the overall quality isn't rising in spite of all the popular player transfers.
To say that it'll be a problem to european leagues, would mean that transferring the most popular players out would ruin the entire culture of football in Europe...

I just think that the over saturation in big money to big players is actually doing more damage though. If european leagues have to utilize the talent pool at lower leagues and also academies to get more good players. I'm all for it actually. Saudis get all the overpaid players so we can bring out more local talent. Meanwhile it would take like a couple of generations to build a football culture. Saudi Arabia's football scene will probably collapse before that can happen Cheesy

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