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[Russlenat]

As what I you said, players creating an account agreed with all the terms so it has nothing to do with reputation unless the casino make a sudden change in the terms to do something against the players.
Anyway, this KYC thing seems to be a never ending discussion as it is being discussed in so many threads LOL.

Agreed. KYC related discussions were less in number several years ago because most crypto gambling sites never asked for KYC unless absolutely necessary, but that has clearly changed in recent times thanks to the rise in popularity of crypto.

What's messed up here is that some sites actually use KYC as an option excuse to avoid paying winnings leading to rising customer complaints.

That's why at this point we have to ensure that we are playing in a reputable casino because they'll not gonna mess their reputation just to steal our money. If they have a good reputation to protect, they'll value their gamblers, they'll pay whatever is due and will never use their TOS against the gamblers to scam them.

Some gamblers when required for a KYC, they'll just say no and let their funds getting confiscated because in the first place they could not comply the requirements.  So them as a gambler, they are aware that one day it'll come, so they enjoy while they can but at the same time well aware of the risk.

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[Catenaccio]

That's why at this point we have to ensure that we are playing in a reputable casino because they'll not gonna mess their reputation just to steal our money. If they have a good reputation to protect, they'll value their gamblers, they'll pay whatever is due and will never use their TOS against the gamblers to scam them.

It's good to choose a reputable casino to register an account, fund the account and start betting on it. At Shuffle.com, people will be provided services, games from a trusted casino and their reputable partners (game providers).

Some gamblers when required for a KYC, they'll just say no and let their funds getting confiscated because in the first place they could not comply the requirements.  So them as a gambler, they are aware that one day it'll come, so they enjoy while they can but at the same time well aware of the risk.

If they are legit users, they will not say No, and open scam accusations.

People who say No, usually are cheaters on casinos and they know very well that the casino smells something suspicious before asking them to KYC. So they have lot of fear that KYC will not help them to be verified and withdraw cheated money after that.

[panjul07]

Just noticed that there is now weekly raffle at Shuffle and there is also livestream every weekend for the draw of the raffle.
Good thing for this raffle is that the requirement to get 1 ticket is not that expensive, every $1000 wager will give us 1 ticket.
Prize pool for the raffle is $20k and there are 20 lucky winners to be drawn every week, so it is $1000 each.
Other good news, winners will also receive 500 SHFL each which worth about $130 with the current rate.
More information: https://shuffle.com/promotions/20-000-weekly-raffle

[Taskford]

That's why at this point we have to ensure that we are playing in a reputable casino because they'll not gonna mess their reputation just to steal our money. If they have a good reputation to protect, they'll value their gamblers, they'll pay whatever is due and will never use their TOS against the gamblers to scam them.

It's good to choose a reputable casino to register an account, fund the account and start betting on it. At Shuffle.com, people will be provided services, games from a trusted casino and their reputable partners (game providers).

Some gamblers when required for a KYC, they'll just say no and let their funds getting confiscated because in the first place they could not comply the requirements.  So them as a gambler, they are aware that one day it'll come, so they enjoy while they can but at the same time well aware of the risk.

If they are legit users, they will not say No, and open scam accusations.

People who say No, usually are cheaters on casinos and they know very well that the casino smells something suspicious before asking them to KYC. So they have lot of fear that KYC will not help them to be verified and withdraw cheated money after that.

Nope we can't say automatically that they are cheaters if they said no on a KYC procedure since there are people that doesn't like to submit any vital information online since maybe they are afraid for their personal security and we can understand that since there's huge risk if we hand it to anyone.

But since a reputable casino ask this then maybe people should consider to trust them or if they really have trust issues and can't really trust those platforms that ask a KYC even if they had long years of good service and reputable in this business then maybe playing in those casino who ask KYC is not for them. Then maybe they should think about to stop participating on any online gambling activities since most likely KYC will be ask there.

[dimonstration]

Nope we can't say automatically that they are cheaters if they said no on a KYC procedure since there are people that doesn't like to submit any vital information online since maybe they are afraid for their personal security and we can understand that since there's huge risk if we hand it to anyone.

But since a reputable casino ask this then maybe people should consider to trust them or if they really have trust issues and can't really trust those platforms that ask a KYC even if they had long years of good service and reputable in this business then maybe playing in those casino who ask KYC is not for them. Then maybe they should think about to stop participating on any online gambling activities since most likely KYC will be ask there.

This is right but we can't remove the possibility that they are cheaters since most of crypto users are already aware of the KYC process because regulation is already entered in our crypto world. Players should stop using any form of centralized services if they don't want to undergo KYC process because every business with a license usually has a potential KYC procedure.

Most of the cheaters use this argument against the casino to hide their identity once caught because a normal user with trap funds in a casino especially a huge amount will have no problem doing KYC unless the casino specifies in their ToS that there's no KYC even in the future.

[Mahdirakib]

Just noticed that there is now weekly raffle at Shuffle and there is also livestream every weekend for the draw of the raffle.
Good thing for this raffle is that the requirement to get 1 ticket is not that expensive, every $1000 wager will give us 1 ticket.

Are they following the footsteps of other popular crypto casinos to snatch the players? Shuffle has become so popular in crypto gambling industry within a short time. Recently they have started to spend a lot on marketing and promotional materials. Shuffle team have given away a good amount of money through SHFL airdrop to the VIP users. Looks like they have made a plan to compete closely with the top crypto casino.

[Wind_FURY]

Although, it shouldn't truly matter, right? Because even if the probability was 50/50 for the user, the casino pays slightly less than 50/50 of the total winnings for the user. Plus there are fees that also go to the casino per dice throw, which if a user played more volume, it would definitely make the casino happier, then they could distribute the airdrop to their most loyal users, who would also be happy to be incentivized to play more volume.

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If it’s really a 50/50 chance then it means the dice game has no house edge and the payment should be exactly x2 of the bet. Most of the dice game has a default x2 payout for a 49.5% chance of winning percentage. It’s dishonesty if they will claim that the winning percentage is exactly 50% and the payout is x2 while they deduct a certain amount even if it’s minimal on the payout amount.

You are pertaining to the house edge for those minimal amount being deducted when you bet on a 50 % winning chance rate because they only offer payout of x2 minus the house edge they set for their games which on this example dice game.

But if the dice game's probability can be truly 50/50, but the payment if you win is worth less than 50/50, then the casino maintains the house edge. Do you understand? For example if you win, you will receive a win of $49.00 from a bet of $50.00, but if the casino wins, it will receive $50.00 from $50.00. Plus you pay for the fees. For the casino it will be always 50/50, but for the user it will be less than 50/50.

It's a small edge, but the casino doesn't think short term. It thinks mathematically long term. They know that because of those probabilities, they will always win.

[Wapfika]

Although, it shouldn't truly matter, right? Because even if the probability was 50/50 for the user, the casino pays slightly less than 50/50 of the total winnings for the user. Plus there are fees that also go to the casino per dice throw, which if a user played more volume, it would definitely make the casino happier, then they could distribute the airdrop to their most loyal users, who would also be happy to be incentivized to play more volume.

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If it’s really a 50/50 chance then it means the dice game has no house edge and the payment should be exactly x2 of the bet. Most of the dice game has a default x2 payout for a 49.5% chance of winning percentage. It’s dishonesty if they will claim that the winning percentage is exactly 50% and the payout is x2 while they deduct a certain amount even if it’s minimal on the payout amount.

You are pertaining to the house edge for those minimal amount being deducted when you bet on a 50 % winning chance rate because they only offer payout of x2 minus the house edge they set for their games which on this example dice game.

But if the dice game's probability can be truly 50/50, but the payment if you win is worth less than 50/50, then the casino maintains the house edge. Do you understand? For example if you win, you will receive a win of $49.00 from a bet of $50.00, but if the casino wins, it will receive $50.00 from $50.00. Plus you pay for the fees. For the casino it will be always 50/50, but for the user it will be less than 50/50.

I get your point mate and I’m not trying to argue on my statement. Simply I’m just telling that casino shouldn’t give a 50% winning chance rate for a payout of x2 if they will still deduct the house edge on the total payout. They should just put the payout on slightly lower than x2 to show the house edge easily. But never mind, I might just complicating things and literally look to your example.

It's a small edge, but the casino doesn't think short term. It thinks mathematically long term. They know that because of those probabilities, they will always win.

And yes to this, I just explain that those minimal fees are the rakeback on my previous post. In the end, those small rakeback will surely make them on the positive side since players always keep coming back for more. 

[South Park]

Nope we can't say automatically that they are cheaters if they said no on a KYC procedure since there are people that doesn't like to submit any vital information online since maybe they are afraid for their personal security and we can understand that since there's huge risk if we hand it to anyone.

But since a reputable casino ask this then maybe people should consider to trust them or if they really have trust issues and can't really trust those platforms that ask a KYC even if they had long years of good service and reputable in this business then maybe playing in those casino who ask KYC is not for them. Then maybe they should think about to stop participating on any online gambling activities since most likely KYC will be ask there.

Gamblers should accept the reality, the days in which they could gamble and not give away their personal information to casinos are basically over, this makes picking the right casino a key decision as now a dishonest casino will not only cheat you for money, but they could get personal documents which could later be used or sold, and since this is something we do not want to see happen, picking a casino you can trust and that will not break that trust is of the utmost importance.

[komisariatku]

This is the first time I have seen the crash multiplier at shuffle so high and in fact I have never seen a multiplier that high in any casino. This is amazing



Does anyone know what the maximum multiplier is for a game crash?

[Bitinity]

Does anyone know what the maximum multiplier is for a game crash?

Must be depending on the game provider if the game comes from 3rd party provider and depending on the casino if the game is developed by the casino itself but I think most crash game is limited to 1,000,000x. I have seen much bigger multiplier than what you have just seen. There was a contest in other casino where participant needs to collect points on crash game some time ago, so I played crash almost every day and I saw huge multipliers above 100,000x few times.

[dimonstration]

This is the first time I have seen the crash multiplier at shuffle so high and in fact I have never seen a multiplier that high in any casino. This is amazing



Does anyone know what the maximum multiplier is for a game crash?

According to the support and I think many crash game providers doing this. There’s no definite maximum multiplier but rather they set the max limit on the max win which is 500K$ on their side. I think they don’t set a maximum multiplier because they have the max win as reference as limitations to all bets.

So answering your question with exact answer you can divide the minimum bet to 500K to get the maximum multiplier that they will pay on this original games.

[xLays]

This is the first time I have seen the crash multiplier at shuffle so high and in fact I have never seen a multiplier that high in any casino. This is amazing



Does anyone know what the maximum multiplier is for a game crash?

I'm surprised only five players playing crash game on shuffle.com at that moment. But it's okay to have 5 players at least you know they are really legitimate players unlike other casinos out there with almost 2,000 players per round. You don't know if those 2,000 players are real. 🙄

Regarding the highest multiplier for sure it's different from every other crash game but usually the maximum of a crash game is multi 1000x. I don't know about crash game by shuffle.com I think it's in the rules we just need to read it.

[Wapfika]

Guys! Shuffle has an Easter Egg hunt event in which they drop off code randomly every 8hrs to all their social media account including the telegram account.

They frequently rewarding 2$ and more by claiming the code on your Shuffle account. It only requires to have a 2K wager in the last 7 days in able to be eligible. I just recently claim the code from telegram so it’s still working.

Easter egg code: HAPPYEASTER-2

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I'm surprised only five players playing crash game on shuffle.com at that moment. But it's okay to have 5 players at least you know they are really legitimate players unlike other casinos out there with almost 2,000 players per round. You don't know if those 2,000 players are real. 🙄

Regarding the highest multiplier for sure it's different from every other crash game but usually the maximum of a crash game is multi 1000x. I don't know about crash game by shuffle.com I think it's in the rules we just need to read it.

I’m not a hardcore crash game players but I become active before on Bustabit(the original crash game) while the maximum multiplier is almost limitless because it depends on the casino bankroll and not with an exact number.

The only time I see a crash game with x1000 multiplier are those new casino like coins.game but the rest has a higher multiplier equivalent to the max win amount allowed by the casino. I missed the rainbow cat animation on Bustabit before whenever the insane multiplier is active.

Easter egg code: HAPPYEASTER-2

Ty.

[odapoda]

I would advise not playing here, I played here during late 2023/2024. stake size got limited fast on sports so I stopped using it.

Logged in 2 days ago and saw I had an airdrop to claim worth a good amount, did not let me claim it so I went on support:

https://imgur.com/a/ppoRr9S

basically accusing me of being some multi account mastermind for tipping a friend to play. (keep in mind I LOST $4k PLAYING)

conspiracy casino, stay far away.

[o48o]

I would advise not playing here, I played here during late 2023/2024. stake size got limited fast on sports so I stopped using it.

Logged in 2 days ago and saw I had an airdrop to claim worth a good amount, did not let me claim it so I went on support:

https://imgur.com/a/ppoRr9S

basically accusing me of being some multi account mastermind for tipping a friend to play. (keep in mind I LOST $4k PLAYING)

conspiracy casino, stay far away.

Consider making official scam accusation in scam accusations thread. But can you explain this?



Sounds like that person you tipped haven't done any kyc? Maybe if he/she did it, they might believe you are 2 different persons.

Also i don't get what they are talking about by "continuing" the betting. But i guess you fall into some common fraud pattern that people do by tipping. So maybe talk this trough with your friend, that is if that friend is real.

[nodejs]

Welcome to the forum and wish the best luck for your casino,I can try your casino
Site looks OTHER Lvl i visited Shuffle AND i think can be more games on future
9/10 design of this website  so i think this is in total 6/10

[dimonstration]

Consider making official scam accusation in scam accusations thread. But can you explain this?



Sounds like that person you tipped haven't done any kyc? Maybe if he/she did it, they might believe you are 2 different persons.

Also i don't get what they are talking about by "continuing" the betting. But i guess you fall into some common fraud pattern that people do by tipping. So maybe talk this trough with your friend, that is if that friend is real.

Providing KYC will not make a huge difference on his case. The support mention that they will further investigate once other user complete KYC and doesn’t mean everything will be solve. Anyone can use KYC of other person which the casino is already aware. They will still investigate on the intensity of the connection between the 2 account.

The user is limited on sports betting for a reason while the connected account received a tip from this user and continue the bet which makes me side to the casino on how they handle this issue.

[xLays]

Welcome to the forum and wish the best luck for your casino,I can try your casino
Site looks OTHER Lvl i visited Shuffle AND i think can be more games on future
9/10 design of this website  so i think this is in total 6/10

Shuffle would be the one who will welcome you. You're the newbie rank here. Shuffle has been operating since 2022 and been here in bitcointalk since last year. Also, upon looking at your account you're possibly using ChatGPT. Your post here isn't as good as your third post (your post in Winz.io). Just a little advice: don't be too obvious. Anyway welcome to bitcointalk. Hopefully your post won't be deleted.