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September 16, 2023, 01:36:20 PM
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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.

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September 16, 2023, 01:56:19 PM
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indeed only calmness will be able to bring maximum results, but that does not mean it always leads you to profit because still the market is difficult to predict and with that at any time you can experience losses, but I mean at least with calmness you will not experience too big a loss. Yes that's clear, indeed everyone has their own personal traits, especially in terms of emotions, some of them are easily provoked by emotions and there are also some who are easy to return to normal. And obviously it will greatly interfere with them when trading, especially for those who have difficulty calming their emotions, will often lose control and may be one of the common causes they will experience more losses than they should. And also as you say emotions can make people far from calm, they will have difficulty making decisions between buy or cell in certain market conditions, and if they force to keep entering then surely usually will end up with losses because of wrong decisions.

But well, this kind of incident has happened a lot and it is true that we must be more active in learning again, especially in controlling mentally and psychologically in order to always be calm when looking for daily or monthly targets from trading.
As long as we learn from it, I think it is not going to be something that matters, we should be able to do it a lot better and shouldn't really worry about it if you ask me. I get the notion that people fear about the drops or get too excited about increases and all that but as long as we care about it very well and not really do anything major, we should be able to do something that would be a lot better.

I hope that we get to do something that will matter on the long run, and should be something a lot more decent. This is of course what I hope I could achieve, and should not be really that much of a problem on the long run. I get that it is not simple and could be a bit of a trouble for those who are having hard time controlling their emotions, but they can learn from their mistakes.

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September 16, 2023, 08:45:35 PM
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Yes that's true and indeed only calmness will be able to bring maximum results, but that does not mean it always leads you to profit because still the market is difficult to predict and with that at any time you can experience losses, but I mean at least with calmness you will not experience too big a loss. Yes that's clear, indeed everyone has their own personal traits, especially in terms of emotions, some of them are easily provoked by emotions and there are also some who are easy to return to normal. And obviously it will greatly interfere with them when trading, especially for those who have difficulty calming their emotions, will often lose control and may be one of the common causes they will experience more losses than they should. And also as you say emotions can make people far from calm, they will have difficulty making decisions between buy or cell in certain market conditions, and if they force to keep entering then surely usually will end up with losses because of wrong decisions.

But well, this kind of incident has happened a lot and it is true that we must be more active in learning again, especially in controlling mentally and psychologically in order to always be calm when looking for daily or monthly targets from trading.

Peace can be obtained when everything goes smoothly according to plan, but when plans don't go well then we have to have a backup plan. Emotions will indeed affect everything and the trigger is because predictions are not appropriate, because predictions will not be 100% correct, there will definitely be some mistakes that occur. Learning to control yourself will give you the strength to control your emotions

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September 20, 2023, 03:42:32 AM
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indeed only calmness will be able to bring maximum results, but that does not mean it always leads you to profit because still the market is difficult to predict and with that at any time you can experience losses, but I mean at least with calmness you will not experience too big a loss. Yes that's clear, indeed everyone has their own personal traits, especially in terms of emotions, some of them are easily provoked by emotions and there are also some who are easy to return to normal. And obviously it will greatly interfere with them when trading, especially for those who have difficulty calming their emotions, will often lose control and may be one of the common causes they will experience more losses than they should. And also as you say emotions can make people far from calm, they will have difficulty making decisions between buy or cell in certain market conditions, and if they force to keep entering then surely usually will end up with losses because of wrong decisions.

But well, this kind of incident has happened a lot and it is true that we must be more active in learning again, especially in controlling mentally and psychologically in order to always be calm when looking for daily or monthly targets from trading.
As long as we learn from it, I think it is not going to be something that matters, we should be able to do it a lot better and shouldn't really worry about it if you ask me. I get the notion that people fear about the drops or get too excited about increases and all that but as long as we care about it very well and not really do anything major, we should be able to do something that would be a lot better.

I hope that we get to do something that will matter on the long run, and should be something a lot more decent. This is of course what I hope I could achieve, and should not be really that much of a problem on the long run. I get that it is not simple and could be a bit of a trouble for those who are having hard time controlling their emotions, but they can learn from their mistakes.
Learning do comes from experience and this is the only way we could really make ourselves really be able to progress on which trying out to learn came from your experience. This is something that you should really be

needing if we do speak about emotion dealing or something that do talks about progress. Emotions is the main things that we would really be able to encounter specially on dealing with moving prices or a market which is really that unpredictable and this is why it would really be that better that you do need to learnt up things according on what you are currently dealing with neither with trading or investment. If you do could do both then the better but its not something that very simple that you could really be able to handle but in due time and better not to rush yourself because this is where wrong things could happen.
Emotions are just normal since we are just humans, it is really just that there are people who cant really be able to control it because they are just newbies or doesnt have experience
but on the time that you do have already then you do already know on how to handle it out.

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September 20, 2023, 11:04:18 AM
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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.
Indeed, many traders cannot control their emotions when they are too focused on profits and do not want to accept the losses they have experienced. They think they have to trade again immediately to return the money they have lost due to losses. In fact, it would be better if after experiencing a loss we had to take a break to calm our minds and then start to re-formulate our trading strategy when our minds are calm. We really have to learn to accept defeat and also have to learn from defeat. Usually emotions cannot be controlled in trading due to a trader's lack of insight and experience.
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September 20, 2023, 12:25:09 PM
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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.
We all trade for profits, that some traders resort into trading with high emotions and when they fail in their trades, they easily become frustrated and eventually lost their concentration in trading. And it’s like a do or die thing like you said. However, I also believe that this can’t be avoided most especially for beginner traders as they tend to be highly emotional at first, but when they start learning some lessons in trading, that’s when they get wiser and become cautious when trading.

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September 21, 2023, 01:16:07 AM
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Indeed, many traders cannot control their emotions when they are too focused on profits and do not want to accept the losses they have experienced. They think they have to trade again immediately to return the money they have lost due to losses. In fact, it would be better if after experiencing a loss we had to take a break to calm our minds and then start to re-formulate our trading strategy when our minds are calm. We really have to learn to accept defeat and also have to learn from defeat. Usually emotions cannot be controlled in trading due to a trader's lack of insight and experience.

Its very easy to say then to do but you're correct, when we lose a trade we shouldn't start a new trade, we should give it sometimes to rethink and put our thinking together properly because some reason why we lose when we're trading is because we're not in our right senses as we might be dealing with some emotional problem that might affect our right decision making. Many individual has emotional problem but they don't admit it which make it difficult to solve.

Putting your trade on an automatic mode can also help you control your  decision, if you know you're having a problem changing a decision you made when you enter the trade, you can set stop loss or take profit so when the market gets to those prices, it does it automatically.

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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.
We all trade for profits, that some traders resort into trading with high emotions and when they fail in their trades, they easily become frustrated and eventually lost their concentration in trading. And it’s like a do or die thing like you said. However, I also believe that this can’t be avoided most especially for beginner traders as they tend to be highly emotional at first, but when they start learning some lessons in trading, that’s when they get wiser and become cautious when trading.
with high emotionality in trading, it can damage their common sense, so they cannot carry out strategies according to plan, I think emotion is the highest science in trading, because only we ourselves can fight it, so it is difficult to do or learn without doing it. practice in real. after that we will have our own feelings about trading, so we will feel every time the next movement will occur, and this can be obtained along with our experience of trading

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September 21, 2023, 06:38:10 AM
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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.
We all trade for profits, that some traders resort into trading with high emotions and when they fail in their trades, they easily become frustrated and eventually lost their concentration in trading. And it’s like a do or die thing like you said. However, I also believe that this can’t be avoided most especially for beginner traders as they tend to be highly emotional at first, but when they start learning some lessons in trading, that’s when they get wiser and become cautious when trading.
with high emotionality in trading, it can damage their common sense, so they cannot carry out strategies according to plan, I think emotion is the highest science in trading, because only we ourselves can fight it, so it is difficult to do or learn without doing it. practice in real. after that we will have our own feelings about trading, so we will feel every time the next movement will occur, and this can be obtained along with our experience of trading
It's true as you said, only from experience can we learn about controlling emotions in trading.
Before I started trading, I used to learn a lot of the science of controlling my emotions in theory but in reality it didn't work and as time went by I learned and understood valuable lessons in self-control for anything that would damage my thought patterns which would lead to emotions that were detrimental to myself Alone.
It's not only emotions that can be detrimental in trading, but also greed in taking profits that we do outside of the strategy, it will also disturb emotions which can end up being detrimental.

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September 21, 2023, 07:37:53 AM
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 #130

Emotions is a weapon used against traders causing them to move out of a trade untimely which may eventually cost them loss.

How to avoid emotions:
  • set up  a TP(take profit) and SL(stop loss) for your trades
  • Stay away from the particular trade
  • Get in some activity that will keep you busy
  • Do your hubby activities at that moment
  • set up hours interval to check your trade
  • watch tvs and Go for walk Smiley

Note:Some of these might not be applicable if you are into scalping.


This is a crystal-clear comprehensive point towards the approach required of traders.

With these in place, one's mentality towards trading will be stable to a degree.


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September 21, 2023, 02:42:24 PM
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Indeed, many traders cannot control their emotions when they are too focused on profits and do not want to accept the losses they have experienced. They think they have to trade again immediately to return the money they have lost due to losses. In fact, it would be better if after experiencing a loss we had to take a break to calm our minds and then start to re-formulate our trading strategy when our minds are calm. We really have to learn to accept defeat and also have to learn from defeat. Usually emotions cannot be controlled in trading due to a trader's lack of insight and experience.

Its very easy to say then to do but you're correct, when we lose a trade we shouldn't start a new trade, we should give it sometimes to rethink and put our thinking together properly because some reason why we lose when we're trading is because we're not in our right senses as we might be dealing with some emotional problem that might affect our right decision making. Many individual has emotional problem but they don't admit it which make it difficult to solve.

Putting your trade on an automatic mode can also help you control your  decision, if you know you're having a problem changing a decision you made when you enter the trade, you can set stop loss or take profit so when the market gets to those prices, it does it automatically.
It is true that controlling emotions in trading sounds easy to do. But yeah, this is even more difficult than learning the analyzes in trading. Because emotional management in trading cannot only be studied through theory. But this involves a person's psychology. So it takes more than just theory. But it also takes experience to control emotions.

But yes, one thing that a trader must have if he wants to improve his emotional management is that he must realize his own mistakes. And he must realize that he does have difficulty controlling his own emotions. And if someone is not even aware of this. Then he will not be able to learn from experience forever.
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September 21, 2023, 03:37:42 PM
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I think emotion is the highest science in trading, because only we ourselves can fight it, so it is difficult to do or learn without doing it. practice in real.
It is our enemy, our emotion. It's pretty much easy to do things when you're not too emotional because it stops us from discovering things and that's making us think that we need to be limited in our activities especially in trading.

after that we will have our own feelings about trading, so we will feel every time the next movement will occur, and this can be obtained along with our experience of trading
If it's about trading, it's not just about our feelings. But we need to research the market and as well as look at the news that are coming and what affects the market. Having this feeling isn't just enough for you to tell on what's gonna happen next.

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Indeed, many traders cannot control their emotions when they are too focused on profits and do not want to accept the losses they have experienced. They think they have to trade again immediately to return the money they have lost due to losses. In fact, it would be better if after experiencing a loss we had to take a break to calm our minds and then start to re-formulate our trading strategy when our minds are calm. We really have to learn to accept defeat and also have to learn from defeat. Usually emotions cannot be controlled in trading due to a trader's lack of insight and experience.

Its very easy to say then to do but you're correct, when we lose a trade we shouldn't start a new trade, we should give it sometimes to rethink and put our thinking together properly because some reason why we lose when we're trading is because we're not in our right senses as we might be dealing with some emotional problem that might affect our right decision making. Many individual has emotional problem but they don't admit it which make it difficult to solve.

Putting your trade on an automatic mode can also help you control your  decision, if you know you're having a problem changing a decision you made when you enter the trade, you can set stop loss or take profit so when the market gets to those prices, it does it automatically.
It is true that controlling emotions in trading sounds easy to do. But yeah, this is even more difficult than learning the analyzes in trading. Because emotional management in trading cannot only be studied through theory. But this involves a person's psychology. So it takes more than just theory. But it also takes experience to control emotions.

But yes, one thing that a trader must have if he wants to improve his emotional management is that he must realize his own mistakes. And he must realize that he does have difficulty controlling his own emotions. And if someone is not even aware of this. Then he will not be able to learn from experience forever.
You would really be able to read up peoples responses and advises in regarding about control and discipline but the fact that it might really sounds too easy but on the time that you are on the field then things turns out

to be that different and you would really be able to realize that it was never been easy to be on the shoes into those people who do make out some mistake and errors with their trades just because they cant really be just that able to control themselves or able to assess on what are the things that must done on a particular situation and we know that its never been that so simple to take up on what decisions you would really be making.
Just like been said above that we are just humans and we dont really like on losing money on which it would really be just that normal that there would really be reactions in regarding into that situation on the time that we do lose money then sometimes we could really become that impulsive and this is where emotions and psychological aspects would really be greatly affected on which it would really be totally
messing up your earlier analysis which is something that must really be avoided in the first place.

Emotions could create that impulsive approach which would really be derailing you into your earlier analysis which this is most likely to happen for most people and this is why
mistakes do really that happen and regret do always at the end.

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September 25, 2023, 08:36:33 AM
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I think emotion is the highest science in trading, because only we ourselves can fight it, so it is difficult to do or learn without doing it. practice in real.
It is our enemy, our emotion. It's pretty much easy to do things when you're not too emotional because it stops us from discovering things and that's making us think that we need to be limited in our activities especially in trading.
A lot of people go with their guts in trading and that makes them lose money because your guts are not always going to be right in trading, you will need to understand the market sentiments, search for news and updates, follow up with the charts and how the market has been moving recently and don't just buy a coin or a token just because you have a gut feeling that it will go up or don't sell your assets just because you think the market will dump shortly.

When we are trading, we should keep our emotions aside and trade based on facts, figures, and stats available in the market, because that is the only way we can actually evaluate the market and at least have an idea about which direction the market might move next even if we are not sure about it.

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September 25, 2023, 10:15:11 AM
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I think emotion is the highest science in trading, because only we ourselves can fight it, so it is difficult to do or learn without doing it. practice in real.
It is our enemy, our emotion. It's pretty much easy to do things when you're not too emotional because it stops us from discovering things and that's making us think that we need to be limited in our activities especially in trading.
A lot of people go with their guts in trading and that makes them lose money because your guts are not always going to be right in trading, you will need to understand the market sentiments, search for news and updates, follow up with the charts and how the market has been moving recently and don't just buy a coin or a token just because you have a gut feeling that it will go up or don't sell your assets just because you think the market will dump shortly.

When we are trading, we should keep our emotions aside and trade based on facts, figures, and stats available in the market, because that is the only way we can actually evaluate the market and at least have an idea about which direction the market might move next even if we are not sure about it.
That's the point there because most of them underestimate trading and think that these influencers are telling the truth. The sad thing that happens is that they are fooling themselves and lose their money in a very short period of time. Until then, facts can't be changed, trading is risky and only those who have deep knowledge and skills become profitable.

Just to realize that trading is not just about having guts or instinct but instead, it requires a high level of market understanding and trading skills. And most of all, we don't have to underestimate the market.

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September 25, 2023, 01:01:42 PM
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The essence why we trade is to make profit through taking and in trading the outcome we get is either lost or gain, but some people have taking trading to make profits as a do or die affairs,  if they don't get exactly the profits they want, they would want to continue to get what they have targeted as profits. A mindset like this can lead to emotional feelings which can never be helpful to trading , people should learn to accept their lose and learn more to know what could be the cause for their failure in trading to get profits,  than just trading continuously in lose without getting a good knowledge for better outcomes.
We all trade for profits, that some traders resort into trading with high emotions and when they fail in their trades, they easily become frustrated and eventually lost their concentration in trading. And it’s like a do or die thing like you said. However, I also believe that this can’t be avoided most especially for beginner traders as they tend to be highly emotional at first, but when they start learning some lessons in trading, that’s when they get wiser and become cautious when trading.
That is a humane thing to feel and there is nothing wrong with that. I understand that we should not do it and that is not a good thing but at the end of the day we are talking about something that is human at its core. Which is why I believe that we are going to end up with a result that would be harder to ignore and we shouldn't really try to avoid feeling any emotions at all, because we will fail to do that.

What can we do then? We need to learn to trade properly WITH our emotions, we should learn to not use them during our trades, that would be a lot better and could return with something that would be better on the long run. Hopefully it will get to a point where we are going to end up mastering control over it.

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September 25, 2023, 01:23:24 PM
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And in trading there is involved big capital which trigers fear, greed, fomo, type of feelings. Which mostly cause us to lose.

If we try to trade with small capital we can try to trade without any emotions, like a computer but the profit will be very less.
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Don't take that trade when it hasn't come to your zone of interest which you mapped out during a particular chart analysis and never chase the market, ensure that the terms and conditions of taking a position in the market are met before hitting the Buy or sell button, and if the market didn't come to your zones of interest leave it, rather let that becomes a missed trade for you because is better to miss a trade than lose it.

From my angle of experience entering a position that hasn't come to your area of interest will trigger emotion to start thinking that the price may get a pullback into that zone, which happens often with price movement in the market and sometimes puts your trade-in a huge lose you may not be able to hold and contributes to bringing emotions to your trades.

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September 25, 2023, 06:35:19 PM
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It is true that controlling emotions in trading sounds easy to do. But yeah, this is even more difficult than learning the analyzes in trading. Because emotional management in trading cannot only be studied through theory. But this involves a person's psychology. So it takes more than just theory. But it also takes experience to control emotions.

But yes, one thing that a trader must have if he wants to improve his emotional management is that he must realize his own mistakes. And he must realize that he does have difficulty controlling his own emotions. And if someone is not even aware of this. Then he will not be able to learn from experience forever.

In trading you cannot be successful until you stop to decide emotionally and if continuously your work will based on emotions then you will always assume that trading is difficult but will never recognize your mistakes.

Actually sometimes a person make good expectations but due to Volatility these expectations does not achieved so it is important for such person that before starting trading you should fully understand volatility keep in mind that you will take decision according to the condition and will never leave your emotions uncontrolled.

Take the situations into account and then decide whether to trade or not because some people trade all the time as a result of which they loss the gaining percentage too.
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September 26, 2023, 06:49:10 AM
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It is true that controlling emotions in trading sounds easy to do. But yeah, this is even more difficult than learning the analyzes in trading. Because emotional management in trading cannot only be studied through theory. But this involves a person's psychology. So it takes more than just theory. But it also takes experience to control emotions.

But yes, one thing that a trader must have if he wants to improve his emotional management is that he must realize his own mistakes. And he must realize that he does have difficulty controlling his own emotions. And if someone is not even aware of this. Then he will not be able to learn from experience forever.

In trading you cannot be successful until you stop to decide emotionally and if continuously your work will based on emotions then you will always assume that trading is difficult but will never recognize your mistakes.

Actually sometimes a person make good expectations but due to Volatility these expectations does not achieved so it is important for such person that before starting trading you should fully understand volatility keep in mind that you will take decision according to the condition and will never leave your emotions uncontrolled.

Take the situations into account and then decide whether to trade or not because some people trade all the time as a result of which they loss the gaining percentage too.
Well, that's right. Sometimes when we enter the market too often and we trade too often without giving our mentality enough rest it will also make it more difficult for us to control our emotions. We must always have a break in trading to calm our minds and restore our thoughts so that they are fresh again.

Mental fatigue is sometimes more dangerous than physical fatigue. Because wrong decisions can arise when we make decisions when our mentality is tired and needs rest. And emotions are closely related to our mentality. Everything requires high discipline, such as emotional management, financial management and time management. Everything must also be applied in making our trading plans.

Without careful planning, a person can fall into impulsive actions. Which made him forget the risks he was taking. And this is very important to pay attention to because as traders we have to know the risks we are taking and we also have to be prepared for the risks we are taking. So it is true that we also need to study the volatility in the market before deciding to enter or not.
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