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September 10, 2023, 11:18:27 PM
Last edit: September 10, 2023, 11:33:09 PM by AmoreJaz
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A link doesnt automatically imply a causation. Geopolitical events, technological improvements, and market sentiment can affect market movement. Your prediction about bull runs' uncertain future is correct. Even though the Bitcoin halving event and timing are known, tying it to a bull run may be too straightforward. Bitcoin is a volatile market with no algorithm or formula that can predict the future. Thus, investors should only risk what they can afford. Can you explain how buyers should prepare for these unknowns?

Being prepared to face the unknown is being prepared to withstand any risk if it comes in the future, because as you said it is also logical enough for investors to understand, where they only have to take risks based on the abilities they have. It doesn't make it forced, because this is about market conditions whose certainty is still unknown even though there are many people who already know what events can affect the market and you have also mentioned some of these things.

However, things that have been predicted can still change because as we know, price and market predictions are initial guesses from research by experts and also each person based on what they have experienced before, although there is no complete guarantee that this will happen. -Things that have happened can be repeated more easily in the market because we are always in different years with different events, even though the names for each event may not be much different.

to be honest, individuals who can store their bitcoin long-term without much problem of waiting are the ones who are financially stable. it means, they are not depending on this investment for potential emergencies, because they have other means. well, lucky for them because not so many bitcoin holders can have such capability.
but if you have funds and you strongly believe on this market, why not? in time, you will reap your rewards if all goes well with your predictions.

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September 10, 2023, 11:39:03 PM
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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit. How can this be achieved is a an unknown myth. Based on my understanding whether the market is predicted to be bullish or bearish we should have the positive thinking. When we stay positive our act should be the same. For this it is always good to keep ourselves prepared to face the worst market situation. When we've kept our portfolio ready to face any form of fluctuations we can stay successful in the market.

Every halving used to bring bullish move in the market. Considering it, accumulating as much possible is good. However we should also be cautious while doing it. While spending the spare money no need to panic, if we're spending the money allocated for something else we need to be observing the market closely to book the profit and take the profit leaving the capital.
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September 11, 2023, 04:57:31 AM
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I have already accumulated bitcoin in my portfolio (70% of my portfolio is in bitcoin) which i will not sell until we are above the all time high again. Similarly, i have bought some major cap coins and a few others low cap too which i think will perform well in the bull season.  I have been doing this for the last 3 to 4 months, buying some at every dump.

You have a very good plan, and I think it is a good idea to invest 70% of your portfolio in bitcoin because that is where we all know we are and the one we think is the safest one. However, I think investing in other altcoins, as you said, is not a good idea for me because all these coins follow the bitcoin price. If the bitcoin dumps more, they will also do the same, and if it pumps seriously, that’s where we have problems. Sometimes some of these coins did not go high, and from there, I believe you will start thinking about why you chose those coins the first time because even some coins you thought would go high during the halving may decline in the market, so I think investing in only bitcoin will be the wisest idea.


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If the market dumps further, I will not panic and if I have more spare money, I may accumulate more bitcoin. I am confident that this bull season will be the best so far as it will be initiated by institutional investors.

If you still have the money right now, we still have the opportunity to buy more bitcoin, or did you think it would dump more? Nah, mate, I don’t think so, so you can see that all this while bitcoin has been dumping is still $25k, but let's see, the market is unpredictable; anything can happen; let’s just hope for the better.

However, I have never experienced the bull run before, but as it’s now serious, I’m well prepared, as I’ve bought some bitcoins and am still buying them once in a while, and I don’t think I will stop investing till I see the market go above $30k. That is when I think I will stop buying bitcoin as my plan, even though I know and I can see other people have been saying they think the price may be more than $100k or even more than that when the bull comes, which I believe will happen.

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September 11, 2023, 05:29:46 AM
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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.

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September 11, 2023, 04:57:36 PM
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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.

Also agreed as we all know the fact that everything possess some sort of risk may be its little of more. Bitcoin is risky investment but not as much as that of altcoins and everyone knows that after reduction there will be promoting worth of bitcoin therefore it is not consider as much risky.

Without the income which government provides for your job everything is full of risk because in government job you will have constant and confirmed payment whereas in the field where you invest will show you reducing value to discourage you.

Like that of bitcoin and gold which are lower in value presently and one who choose these two assets will be agonies about how to recover their cash back.









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September 11, 2023, 05:44:54 PM
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The biggest misconception about the bitcoin halving is that it's automatically going to ensue a bull run. The rewards being cut down in half as well as the discoverable supply is good and all that but taking 2020 for example, it's not necessarily enough to put bitcoin at a much better spot.

There are a lot of things at play that would cause bitcoin to increase in value besides the halving, if you'll ask me it's the least of the things that could really affect the people's disposition towards bitcoin. Let's hope a chain reaction happens or something, much like what happened during the best halving as of yet to put us in a more secure situation, otherwise I guess let's just work with what we have lol.

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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.
We always believed that history will repeat itself that’s why we have this mindset that once bitcoin halving will takes place, all the crypto coins will experience a price high surge. When in reality, there’s no guarantees that the same effect for halving will happen. It could still be the same in the previous halving, or it could start a new outcome that is unexpected. So all we have to do is to prepare for it, not only for the best but also for its worst as we hold no certainties that bitcoin halving will still bring a lot of profits.

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September 11, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.
We always believed that history will repeat itself that’s why we have this mindset that once bitcoin halving will takes place, all the crypto coins will experience a price high surge. When in reality, there’s no guarantees that the same effect for halving will happen. It could still be the same in the previous halving, or it could start a new outcome that is unexpected. So all we have to do is to prepare for it, not only for the best but also for its worst as we hold no certainties that bitcoin halving will still bring a lot of profits.
It will be very interesting to see what happens if there is no growth after the halving. But unexpected things always happen in the market, so it will definitely happen sooner or later. There is even a short joke among traders on this topic:
- Do you know what is written on the traders’ grave?
- What?
- I see this for the first time.

This is of course dark humor, but there is some truth in it. Of course, I wanted the cycles to repeat like the previous halvings, but we will only find out with time. There will also be those who will bet a fortune on repeating the cycle, and they will lose everything if this does not happen.

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September 11, 2023, 10:47:14 PM
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The only part I don't agree with is buying altcoins and calling it a "portfolio". We all know that all these altcoins depend on bitcoin price and majority of them have absolutely no future even the bigger ones are going to get dumped in the long run. For example the biggest shitcoin called ethereum has not been capable of pumping back to its 2017 highs and has lost about half of its value over the past 6 years. That's contrary to bitcoin that is still above its previous ATH.

Besides there is a high chance that alcoins you are bagholding could get dumped when bitcoin starts rising. It happens to a lot of them since the "investors" sell their coins to go back to bitcoin market and have more liquidity trading bitcoin/fiat pairs. That always dumps altcoins.
I agree with you completely; a lot of people have not really come to terms that Bitcoin is the real deal. Maybe they are swayed by the promised huge profits that always end up being a mirage. To further add to what you said, just this year there was halving in Litecoin (LTC) and there was practically no effect on the market.


We always believed that history will repeat itself that’s why we have this mindset that once bitcoin halving will takes place, all the crypto coins will experience a price high surge. When in reality, there’s no guarantees that the same effect for halving will happen. It could still be the same in the previous halving, or it could start a new outcome that is unexpected. So all we have to do is to prepare for it, not only for the best but also for its worst as we hold no certainties that bitcoin halving will still bring a lot of profits.
There is a high chance the halving will surely have effect. The market is driven by demand and supply and when the demand is higher or there is a drop in supply, the market will respond accordingly.What I'm saying is that the halving will create a reduction in supply (this time, block reward) and this will invariably cause a rise in price. Besides, Bitcoin is also influenced by news, so the news around the halving is enough energy to propel huge influx of capital which will correspond to a rise in price. Therefore, there is a huge tendency we might be seeing a surge in price following the halving event.

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September 11, 2023, 11:24:35 PM
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As you know bitcoin halving is a few months away (first quarter 2024) and then we may have bull season in 2024/2025. We are all excited about the bull season but no one prepares for it. People start buying Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies when the bull market is in progress and the prices are already high. Some even have the fear of missing out and buy at the top of the bull market. The result is that most people lose money in bull season too.
This rush buy order during bull market is one of the evedent feature of weak hands,  who does not have the mental capacity to analyze the Bitcoin market on a long term base because buying Bitcoin when the price is already on uptrend to a certain degree were it could be call a possible bull market places you at risk of possible lost.


And if care is not taken,  it will take the investor a very long time before he could recover his invested capital before he starts talking about gains,  so is very important to have that in mind before their decide to buy at the top,  but anyone that is wise and take bitcoin as a long term investment,  will accumulate Bitcoin over time,  and always take advantage of discount market to make each purchase.
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I have already accumulated bitcoin in my portfolio (70% of my portfolio is in bitcoin) which i will not sell until we are above the all time high again. Similarly, i have bought some major cap coins and a few others low cap too which i think will perform well in the bull season.  I have been doing this for the last 3 to 4 months, buying some at every dump.

If the market dumps further, I will not panic and if I have more spare money, I may accumulate more bitcoin. I am confident that this bull season will be the best so far as it will be initiated by institutional investors.

Also, to keep my bitcoin secure and to remain calm in times of dump, I have moved my bitcoins in cold storage so I never get tempted to sell on small profits like i won't be selling on 2x profit if bitcoin reaches 50,000$. My targets are clear and will sell in parts after bitcoin reaches new highs.
I started my bitcoin accumulation journey over a year ago,  and up until this point,  I have never considering diversifying my portfolio and with my current bitcoin balance,  I am ready for the next bull market to take maximum profits at the top.


This is the best advantage of the DCA approach,  it allows you to buy Bitcoin with the smallest amount and accumulate on a long-term basis.

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September 12, 2023, 01:50:09 AM
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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.
We always believed that history will repeat itself that’s why we have this mindset that once bitcoin halving will takes place, all the crypto coins will experience a price high surge. When in reality, there’s no guarantees that the same effect for halving will happen. It could still be the same in the previous halving, or it could start a new outcome that is unexpected. So all we have to do is to prepare for it, not only for the best but also for its worst as we hold no certainties that bitcoin halving will still bring a lot of profits.
This is what we do have in mind is on which we do really believe that there's a cycle on this market on which if theres bear market then there's definitely a bull one. It did really just turn out that people would really be starting on having doubts on the time that they would really be experiencing long time recovery or havent been seeing some significant movement in the space on which it would really be resulting that kind of emotion which it isnt really that new anymore. Now that we are fast approaching on halving event of Bitcoin then this is where bullish sentiments would be coming out.

Preparations? Then it would really be just wise that you should really be buying now since the price isnt really that high yet and this is the most sensible thing to be done. People would really be starting on FOMO
on the time that the price is starting to climb up but they should have done this thing earlier. Its always been like this where regrets do always come at the end and having that kind of regret
but actually we are on the situation on which this is the ideal spot for you to get in.

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Investing into bitcoin is risk free, and gives the best profit.

I do not agree with your statement, there is no investment or asset without risk, including real estate. An asset that everyone considers the safest also has certain risks. Don't forget, the higher the profit, the higher the risk. Furthermore, we also know that the future is unpredictable and that is why investing in bitcoin should only be with an amount you can afford to lose.

Bitcoin has the potential to increase in price significantly after each halving, and that has happened historically, but is there any guarantee that that will continue to happen? No, it's all just our predictions and expectations. Therefore, in addition to preparing for the bull season, we should also have a backup plan if the bull season does not come.
We always believed that history will repeat itself that’s why we have this mindset that once bitcoin halving will takes place, all the crypto coins will experience a price high surge. When in reality, there’s no guarantees that the same effect for halving will happen. It could still be the same in the previous halving, or it could start a new outcome that is unexpected. So all we have to do is to prepare for it, not only for the best but also for its worst as we hold no certainties that bitcoin halving will still bring a lot of profits.

As long as the money you put into it is what you can afford to lose then it is good to take the risk. There have really always been surges in the past halving on Bitcoin that almost all of the crypto goes green and reach their own ATH so because we already predict it even not 100% it is best if we can risk it and try to ride it because if not we will lose the opportunity.

There is no guarantee in our investment but if you don't take a risk and just be scared there will also no guarantee with us to gain profit, so just choose yours if what you want.
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September 12, 2023, 02:27:01 AM
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The only part I don't agree with is buying altcoins and calling it a "portfolio". We all know that all these altcoins depend on bitcoin price and majority of them have absolutely no future even the bigger ones are going to get dumped in the long run. For example the biggest shitcoin called ethereum has not been capable of pumping back to its 2017 highs and has lost about half of its value over the past 6 years. That's contrary to bitcoin that is still above its previous ATH.

Besides there is a high chance that alcoins you are bagholding could get dumped when bitcoin starts rising. It happens to a lot of them since the "investors" sell their coins to go back to bitcoin market and have more liquidity trading bitcoin/fiat pairs. That always dumps altcoins.
I agree with you completely; a lot of people have not really come to terms that Bitcoin is the real deal. Maybe they are swayed by the promised huge profits that always end up being a mirage. To further add to what you said, just this year there was halving in Litecoin (LTC) and there was practically no effect on the market.


I don't care about LTC because it's not worth the investment, but I disagree when pooya87 talks about ETH. I remember that ETH's ATH in 2017 was over 1k$ and ETH's ATH during the 2021 bull season was almost 5k$. Why do you say it can't return to the 2017 high? I agree, most altcoins are gambling not investments but ETH is not like that. You guys are bitcoin maximalists but you shouldn't deny the ongoing truth that ETH has as much potential as BTC. I even bet you two that the profit that ETH brings in the next bull season will be more significant than BTC brings if we calculate from the bottom price of this year's bear season.

People do not accept bitcoin as real, but you two also do not accept that ETH is a coin that is doing very well in the market, we need to be realistic.

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I don't care about LTC because it's not worth the investment, but I disagree when pooya87 talks about ETH. I remember that ETH's ATH in 2017 was over 1k$ and ETH's ATH during the 2021 bull season was almost 5k$. Why do you say it can't return to the 2017 high? I agree, most altcoins are gambling not investments but ETH is not like that.
Ethereum is still a risky altcoin even it has many years in the market, went through some bear markets and had some great bull runs.

A biggest risk of Ethereum is its centralization that puts the ETH blockchain under super big risk of being seriously regulated by governments. With its centralized network, transactions can be rolled back like after the DAO hack or censored by their big centralized validators.

If you want something really decentralized, it's only Bitcoin and if one more, it's Monero but not Ethereum.

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September 12, 2023, 02:49:31 AM
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there are bull markets and there are bear markets, and I like both because bull markets always provide profits, while bear markets always provide profit opportunities, because we can buy in bear markets and sell in bull markets.

if you have collected a lot of btc I want to congratulate you and wish you good luck on your investment in crypto.

and I also happen to have collected btc and altcoins in my wallet
and even now I still continue to buy btc and altcoins using the DCA system.
You are thinking like an investor and that is a great thing, I often see people complaining about the bear market and how their holdings are worth less than before, and I often think that such people if they do not change the way they think they will not make it far, an investor takes advantage of every opportunity they can find, bear markets are great as they allow you to buy the assets you like for a very low price, so when the bull market finally comes you can decide to sell whenever you want and make great profits anyway.

I think there will always be complaints if we buy and after buying the price continues to drop down even though we use the dca system because we won't know to what extent the price will drop, but there are times when the heart becomes doubtful if capital starts to run low even though we bought with the dca system at the time there is a price reduction.

So I think in crypto investment there are always obstacles and hurdles that must be overcome even if a great investor.

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If the market dumps further, I will not panic and if I have more spare money, I may accumulate more bitcoin. I am confident that this bull season will be the best so far as it will be initiated by institutional investors.

There is huge upside potential, so some see the upside potential as outweighing the risk. But for some traders, the desire for more profits justifies the use of leverage.

Also, to keep my bitcoin secure and to remain calm in times of dump, I have moved my bitcoins in cold storage so I never get tempted to sell on small profits like i won't be selling on 2x profit if bitcoin reaches 50,000$. My targets are clear and will sell in parts after bitcoin reaches new highs.

Investing in BTC can be a truly profitable venture for us but only if we do it right and  you have built better patterns and security.

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September 12, 2023, 03:26:45 AM
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The crux of the matter is that there's no certainty that a bull run will occur after each halving event, even though historically, a bull run has followed the four-year cycle of halving. However, we cannot guarantee that this cycle will repeat itself in the next halving.

What's on my mind right now is how market manipulators and whales might respond to the increasing number of people preparing for the post-halving bull run. Doesn't a growing anticipation among the masses diminish the element of surprise? After all, Bitcoin's surprises are more fitting when they come unexpectedly.

There is no guarantee in our investment but if you don't take a risk and just be scared there will also no guarantee with us to gain profit, so just choose yours if what you want.
Taking a calculated risk by not going all in, in my opinion, is sufficient for betting on our respective speculations.
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A few weeks ago, we were waiting for the halving of litecoin. Everyone was talking about growth, and that now the price of litecoin will be about $ 300 based on the experience of previous halvings. Three times I have even seen opinions that the price will be about 1000. Before halving, I placed the deferred orders and bought litecoins at a cheap price. As a result, nothing happened on the day of halving. Because everyone was waiting for growth. But in previous cycles, the public was not so sure about the price growth on the day of halving.

Therefore, now, when they talk about halving bitcoin, I am almost sure that practically nothing will happen on this day. After all, it would be too easy for everything to be so predictable in the cryptocurrency market.

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September 12, 2023, 05:09:56 AM
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I have already accumulated bitcoin in my portfolio (70% of my portfolio is in bitcoin) which i will not sell until we are above the all time high again. Similarly, i have bought some major cap coins and a few others low cap too which i think will perform well in the bull season.  I have been doing this for the last 3 to 4 months, buying some at every dump.

If the market dumps further, I will not panic and if I have more spare money, I may accumulate more bitcoin. I am confident that this bull season will be the best so far as it will be initiated by institutional investors.
This is a very good idea and holding bitcoin at 70% of the portfolio is very enjoyable and if it can continue to be improved to be more optimal then it will be even better because bitcoin is one of the best investments available. One thing that makes me sure is that you have strong self-confidence as a long-term holder, where you know very well the journey process and highest achievement (ATH). You didn't mention any buying strategy clearly, I assume you use the method of buying when bitcoin goes down and might also need to consider DCA as another method for you. 3 or 4 months into the market if you don't use large capital for purchases then the portfolio you have is not very large now, unless you are trying to buy large amounts from this fairly close period.

Long-term holders don't need to panic even though the market is badly corrected because the idea as long-term holders is just hoping to make a profit at ATH. So stay calm and wait for the cycle to run itself, then we will get the maximum profit as desired, but if you don't have a lot of spare money, maybe you should try the DCA pattern which will be much more optimal.

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September 12, 2023, 03:48:19 PM
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If you look at the capitalization of the entire crypto market (currently more than $1 trillion), it seems to me that this won't be a big problem for prices. Moreover, there will always be those who will buy at cheaper prices, this will happen sooner or later. Perhaps even in 2024, after the Bitcoin halving, which will be the reason for the start of a bullish rally. This seems to me the most likely scenario at the moment.

I wouldn't want larger Bitcoin holders such as MicroStrategy, who control 152,800 BTC (which is equal to 0.7% of the total BTC supply) to sell. If several of these large campaigns sell out in a short period of time, it will be a nightmare.
Indeed, there will be an impact on market prices, but this will not last long because as we know, ahead of the Halving, people will take advantage of cheap purchases this year. So if this scenario is implemented and FTX sells every week, of course investors who are waiting for momentum will not waste this opportunity. I quite agree with you, large institutions with Bitcoin holdings will control the price but there is nothing we can do but follow their lead while being part of a small percentage of Bitcoin investors.

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