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September 12, 2023, 08:56:21 PM
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3 games will be held tomorrow in 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification - CONMEBOL matches:
Bolivia vs Argentina
Ecuador vs Uruguay
Venezuela vs Paraguay
Argentina is better than Bolivia and they should win this game away. Paraguay is better than Venezuela and they shouldn't have any problem also.
For the match between Ecuador and Paraguay, I find both of them quite equivalent with a slight advantage for Paraguay maybe.

South American games are very difficult to predict; they don't score as many goals and they rarely have a good victory margin too. With Bolivia vs Argentina; tipping Argentina to win is the safest bet; while ecuador vs uruguay would fit an X or Both teams to score. What do you think ?
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September 12, 2023, 08:57:02 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PM by famososMuertos
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The image shows the partial 0x1 but the first half ends 0x2, there are no more goals because it is being played in peace*, surely in the second half we will have the addition of a couple more goals.

 A misfortune for the Bolivian team not to achieve a draw.  That's all for now, friends, friends, whatever.



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(*) in a figurative sense to refer to its capital "La Paz".

80' 0x2:  The altitude definitely takes its toll on the players.



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September 12, 2023, 09:18:38 PM
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This topic can include national football teams or even clubs playing in official international competitions or friendlies.

Am I still off -topic?
You are not off topic since it is mentioned that friendlies are a part of this topic, maybe we should put [Friendlies] in the beginning of the post to avoid confusion. By the way, Germany won 2 - 1 vs France, a good result after their humiliating defeat against Japan by 4 goals to 1..

[CONMEBOL Qualifiers]
Argentina is leading with 2 goals to 0 vs Bolivia after 60 minutes of the game and Bolivia are playing with 10 players after the red card.

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September 12, 2023, 09:33:44 PM
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What make me not understand is Neymar, he can play for Brazil, but he haven't play any single game in Al Hilal. Based on few sources I found if Neymar is still injured lol, I think he has no interest to play in Saudi Professional League. Wihout Neymar, Brazil can still able to beat Bolivia to be honest.

There's no any good matches yet, we will see a big match in the next 2 months where Brazil will meet Argentina.

It would be interesting to see the Saudis' reaction if Neymar aggravated his injury and things went like Pogba did last season (interesting doesn't mean I'd want that). A really strange situation and I didn’t notice it until I read your comment. Apparently, after a pause due to international games, Neymar will still play his debut game

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September 12, 2023, 09:46:24 PM
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What make me not understand is Neymar, he can play for Brazil, but he haven't play any single game in Al Hilal. Based on few sources I found if Neymar is still injured lol, I think he has no interest to play in Saudi Professional League. Wihout Neymar, Brazil can still able to beat Bolivia to be honest.

There's no any good matches yet, we will see a big match in the next 2 months where Brazil will meet Argentina.
Brazil thrashing Bolivia 5-1, it was an easy game for them. Neymar Jr is available for club level games but he doesn't missed out on international games, he's always at his peak whenever he feature for international games. It's quite unfortunate for Saudi side to keep waiting for him to recover, while he's fully fit for gamed. He can't be pressure because he's a big-name and he does what he does to fit in. Neymar Jr have priorities to meetup which is actually breaking record for all time goal scorer for Brazil. He netted a bracd and gave an assist, showing strong excellent contributions to the team.

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September 12, 2023, 09:53:58 PM
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This topic can include national football teams or even clubs playing in official international competitions or friendlies.

Am I still off -topic?
You are not off topic since it is mentioned that friendlies are a part of this topic, maybe we should put [Friendlies] in the beginning of the post to avoid confusion. By the way, Germany won 2 - 1 vs France, a good result after their humiliating defeat against Japan by 4 goals to 1..

[CONMEBOL Qualifiers]
Argentina is leading with 2 goals to 0 vs Bolivia after 60 minutes of the game and Bolivia are playing with 10 players after the red card.


OP, if you don't leave this thread only for Conmebol then you are "off-topic", so, you are spamming board and encouraging it, there are already several threads with reference to the topic from other ligues and/or confederations on Topic football .

It's a shame because there wasn't a thread about the FIFA Conmebol specifically, then, we'll have an onslaught of spam, it's shit that should stop.

Anyway, I think this is my last post in this thread that promotes spam.

Argentina surely did the job in the first half, the altitude of La Paz (capital of Bolivia) takes its toll on the physical condition of the players.

Final: 0x3 Arg.

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September 12, 2023, 09:57:28 PM
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What make me not understand is Neymar, he can play for Brazil, but he haven't play any single game in Al Hilal. Based on few sources I found if Neymar is still injured lol, I think he has no interest to play in Saudi Professional League. Wihout Neymar, Brazil can still able to beat Bolivia to be honest.

There's no any good matches yet, we will see a big match in the next 2 months where Brazil will meet Argentina.
Brazil thrashing Bolivia 5-1, it was an easy game for them. Neymar Jr is available for club level games but he doesn't missed out on international games, he's always at his peak whenever he feature for international games. It's quite unfortunate for Saudi side to keep waiting for him to recover, while he's fully fit for gamed. He can't be pressure because he's a big-name and he does what he does to fit in. Neymar Jr have priorities to meetup which is actually breaking record for all time goal scorer for Brazil. He netted a bracd and gave an assist, showing strong excellent contributions to the team.

Although this is again typical for Neymar. On one days it is said that he is injured and on the next day he is sitting in the plane on his way to Brazil to play for the national team. Doesn't really seem to be very plausible, but yes he is too big of a name I guess that anyone in Saudi Arabia would dare to criticize him. He did even play the full 90 minutes. It would be a bit ridiculous when he now comes home and one week later is injured again or claims to not be able to play for his club.

But his stats are definitely impressive as he now stands at 79 goals in 125 games for Brazil. But lots of interesting things are coming in the future as I wonder whether the national coaches will keep all those players on their teams who have now decided to play in Saudi Arabia. Usually I think the league is not competitive enough to then have the ambition to win the World Cup for example. But for as long as the players keep scoring, I guess they will also remain part of their national teams.  

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I won't argue much about the usefulness of this thread since it is already mentioned in the first post.
To be clear this thread should include every competition that don't have already a dedicated topic. For example, European competitions from Champions League, Europa or Conference League, Nations League and EURO qualifiers have no place here and should be reported. Same goes for African competitions since they have their own thread.
For CONMEBOL, a member posting in this topic proposed to create a topic and I encourage him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465893. Once it gets enough attention and became popular, CONMEBOL related discussions should be moved there.
Otherwise, this topic will gather the remaining and less popular football competitions. If you detect a spammer, you can report him.
This topic is open for everyone and Bitcointalk rules apply on it obviously, I don't see why I am obliged to make a self moderated topic, and I don't count to but you can feel free to do so.

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September 12, 2023, 11:43:01 PM
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What make me not understand is Neymar, he can play for Brazil, but he haven't play any single game in Al Hilal. Based on few sources I found if Neymar is still injured lol, I think he has no interest to play in Saudi Professional League. Wihout Neymar, Brazil can still able to beat Bolivia to be honest.

There's no any good matches yet, we will see a big match in the next 2 months where Brazil will meet Argentina.

It would be interesting to see the Saudis' reaction if Neymar aggravated his injury and things went like Pogba did last season (interesting doesn't mean I'd want that). A really strange situation and I didn’t notice it until I read your comment. Apparently, after a pause due to international games, Neymar will still play his debut game

This subject generated a lot of discussion when the list of Brazilian players who would play in the national team was released, I remember that the Al Hilal coach said in the interview that he could not understand how it was possible that Neymar was being called up to play in the Brazilian national team while that he underwent medical examinations at Al Hilal and said that he was injured and that he needed to recover before he could return to play, for this reason the Al Hilal coach recommended that Neymar not play until he improves, but strangely we are seeing Neymar playing since the beginning of games in the brazilian national team

How can a player who was injured and expected to recover after some time without playing be a starter in Brazil's main team? And the most serious thing is that he played 90 minutes and didn't have any problems. I honestly don't know how far these guys from Al Hilal investigated before signing Neymar, but in my opinion this signing was a serious mistake because the guy is unlikely to play most of the games of the season, but he always plays for Brazil's main team, they are There are very few cases in which he doesn't play in Brazil's main team, but in the countries' domestic teams the guy is always injured



As expected Messi did not play and as expected Argentina won the game against Bolivia, in this game Argentina managed to score 3 goals and did not concede any goals, this showed the great superiority of Argentina and the great fragility of Bolivia's defense that before in this game they conceded 5 goals in the game against Brazil and now they conceded 3 goals in the game against Argentina. in 2 games they conceded 8 goals in total, this is not good for Bolivia

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Peru vs Brazil has been ended, it was almost draw before Marquinhos score a goal in the last minute.

It's really strange how Diniz always let Richarlison to play when he has no contribution, Martinelli is better than him. Brazil should improve their quality, it's not make sense if they can lose against Peru which is a weak team.
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Peru vs Brazil has been ended, it was almost draw before Marquinhos score a goal in the last minute.
From the start the match proceeded normally and possession of the ball seemed almost equal between the two national teams even though Brazil had better quality players but in fact until the 2 round they were only able to get 1 goal and maintain their lead until they became winners in this match.
Neymar doesn't look that impressive and it seems like he still finds it difficult to move freely because his injury has not completely recovered.
Congratulations to Brazil for winning thanks to a corner kick taken by Neymar and met with a header by Marquinhos.

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It's really strange how Diniz always let Richarlison to play when he has no contribution, Martinelli is better than him. Brazil should improve their quality, it's not make sense if they can lose against Peru which is a weak team.
At the 2022 Qatar World Cup Richarlison performed quite well in just 4 matches he scored 3 goals and that is the reason why currently Diniz is still relying on Richarlison as one of Brazil front line players.
But when you look at Richarlison performance in these qualifiers he looks a little worse and indeed Diniz should prioritize other players rather than playing Richarlison for every qualifying match.

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It would be interesting to see the Saudis' reaction if Neymar aggravated his injury and things went like Pogba did last season (interesting doesn't mean I'd want that). A really strange situation and I didn’t notice it until I read your comment. Apparently, after a pause due to international games, Neymar will still play his debut game

This subject generated a lot of discussion when the list of Brazilian players who would play in the national team was released, I remember that the Al Hilal coach said in the interview that he could not understand how it was possible that Neymar was being called up to play in the Brazilian national team while that he underwent medical examinations at Al Hilal and said that he was injured and that he needed to recover before he could return to play, for this reason the Al Hilal coach recommended that Neymar not play until he improves, but strangely we are seeing Neymar playing since the beginning of games in the brazilian national team

How can a player who was injured and expected to recover after some time without playing be a starter in Brazil's main team? And the most serious thing is that he played 90 minutes and didn't have any problems. I honestly don't know how far these guys from Al Hilal investigated before signing Neymar, but in my opinion this signing was a serious mistake because the guy is unlikely to play most of the games of the season, but he always plays for Brazil's main team, they are There are very few cases in which he doesn't play in Brazil's main team, but in the countries' domestic teams the guy is always injured
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Even on the first day, when it turned out that Neymar was injured and would not play for Al Hilal, I wrote that these guys do not yet know who they are mess with  Grin Soon they will learn about the Brazilian carnival, about the birthday of Neymar's sister and other very important events that will prevent him from playing for the club. But perhaps the club has some idea about these things, since even we know about it? Or are the Saudis so naive that they thought that if they paid Neymar a lot of money, he would earn it honestly? We'll see, but it will be funny if even in this “easy” league Neymar has problems with discipline and stability of results.

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September 13, 2023, 02:32:11 PM
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Even on the first day, when it turned out that Neymar was injured and would not play for Al Hilal, I wrote that these guys do not yet know who they are mess with  Grin Soon they will learn about the Brazilian carnival, about the birthday of Neymar's sister and other very important events that will prevent him from playing for the club. But perhaps the club has some idea about these things, since even we know about it? Or are the Saudis so naive that they thought that if they paid Neymar a lot of money, he would earn it honestly? We'll see, but it will be funny if even in this “easy” league Neymar has problems with discipline and stability of results.
Yep, that's always been a problem in third world country: not discipline, living with luxury life style, corruption etc.

Neymar's work ethic is low, just like many good players that always injured and only play for few matches. Right now Saudi Arabia don't mind to keep him even as a brand ambassador, but when Saudi Professional League become big, I believe they will force Neymar to play or they will kick him.

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September 13, 2023, 03:11:37 PM
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This subject generated a lot of discussion when the list of Brazilian players who would play in the national team was released, I remember that the Al Hilal coach said in the interview that he could not understand how it was possible that Neymar was being called up to play in the Brazilian national team while that he underwent medical examinations at Al Hilal and said that he was injured and that he needed to recover before he could return to play, for this reason the Al Hilal coach recommended that Neymar not play until he improves, but strangely we are seeing Neymar playing since the beginning of games in the brazilian national team.
I've not been following the Saudi Arabian league for sometime but if Neymar lied that he was injured so that he won't play for Al Hilal, later traveled and represented his national team, then that's very bad and unprofessional. Come to think of it, is it the position of Neymar to tell his new club that he's injured or Al Hilal medical team to run a thorough test on him to ascertain the injury? This doesn't really make sense because it's the club's medical team's responsibility to do so and not the other way round. From the look of things we might not be getting the correct information about the Neymar injury story.

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September 14, 2023, 07:20:32 PM
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Even on the first day, when it turned out that Neymar was injured and would not play for Al Hilal, I wrote that these guys do not yet know who they are mess with  Grin Soon they will learn about the Brazilian carnival, about the birthday of Neymar's sister and other very important events that will prevent him from playing for the club. But perhaps the club has some idea about these things, since even we know about it? Or are the Saudis so naive that they thought that if they paid Neymar a lot of money, he would earn it honestly? We'll see, but it will be funny if even in this “easy” league Neymar has problems with discipline and stability of results.
Yep, that's always been a problem in third world country: not discipline, living with luxury life style, corruption etc.

Neymar's work ethic is low, just like many good players that always injured and only play for few matches. Right now Saudi Arabia don't mind to keep him even as a brand ambassador, but when Saudi Professional League become big, I believe they will force Neymar to play or they will kick him.

100% Now the Saudi League is rapidly developing, so for those who go there it’s just easy money, but then everything will become stricter and I think even the level of salaries will not be several times higher than in Europe, but simply higher. This boom is reminiscent of the ICO boom (and probably any boom) - I remember how any projects (even obviously poor/fraudulent ones) collected huge investments in a short time because investors were confident of quick returns. But then the market matured and even serious projects could not raise the necessary capital. By the way, it’s funny that Neymar spends most of his career in “easy” boom conditions - first he was lured to Barcelona, then to PSG (on super conditions for that time) and now to Saudi Arabia. This guy just knows where to get the cream without the hard work!  Grin

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September 14, 2023, 08:23:57 PM
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Peru vs Brazil has been ended, it was almost draw before Marquinhos score a goal in the last minute.

It's really strange how Diniz always let Richarlison to play when he has no contribution, Martinelli is better than him. Brazil should improve their quality, it's not make sense if they can lose against Peru which is a weak team.

The qualifiers for the World Cup have always been difficult even for big teams in South America.Football is loved very much in every single South American country and as such the teams,even the weak ones like Peru in front of their home fans do the maximum to achieve good results even against strong teams like Brazil.Of course they cannot pretend to be winning or drawing against Brazil although they were very near a draw this time and it was only luck that brought Brazil that goal in the additional time of the game.
In the end it is important who get the three points and Brazil just got what they wanted so everything is OK for them.

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September 14, 2023, 09:09:08 PM
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This subject generated a lot of discussion when the list of Brazilian players who would play in the national team was released, I remember that the Al Hilal coach said in the interview that he could not understand how it was possible that Neymar was being called up to play in the Brazilian national team while that he underwent medical examinations at Al Hilal and said that he was injured and that he needed to recover before he could return to play, for this reason the Al Hilal coach recommended that Neymar not play until he improves, but strangely we are seeing Neymar playing since the beginning of games in the brazilian national team.
I've not been following the Saudi Arabian league for sometime but if Neymar lied that he was injured so that he won't play for Al Hilal, later traveled and represented his national team, then that's very bad and unprofessional. Come to think of it, is it the position of Neymar to tell his new club that he's injured or Al Hilal medical team to run a thorough test on him to ascertain the injury? This doesn't really make sense because it's the club's medical team's responsibility to do so and not the other way round. From the look of things we might not be getting the correct information about the Neymar injury story.
With the kind of welcome package Neymar got, the apartment, the exotic cars and gifts, also coupled with the fact that he is playing in a developing league where he may not really sweat to play much, should he decide to when available. He is a professional and has his manager and others to look out for him.
To relocate is not an easy to thing, it may take much more sacrifice inorder to do so, but, let's just agree he wants to really rest.
It's quite reasonable to assume that the next world cup might be a target and to stay fit and injury free till then, with a consistent record and form is the supposed mandate.

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The qualifiers for the World Cup have always been difficult even for big teams in South America.Football is loved very much in every single South American country and as such the teams,even the weak ones like Peru in front of their home fans do the maximum to achieve good results even against strong teams like Brazil.
I want to add that where to play have also an impact on match results. For example Argentina suffered in the past when they face Bolivia, I remember Messi said once that he will die in La Paz cause of the high altitude of the stadium.
Most of the teams aren't that bad and tiny details might have big impact there.
CONMEBOL games will resume in a month, same goes for nations friendlies.

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It's quite reasonable to assume that the next world cup might be a target and to stay fit and injury free till then, with a consistent record and form is the supposed mandate.
Neymar's current age is 31 years. And in the 2026 world cup he will be 34 years old. This is the age range where footballers will reach the end of their careers and retire. Neymar's decision to join the Saudi Arabian League is a natural one when it comes to money. Regarding his contribution to the national team and the competitive level of the Saudi Arabian Pro League, I don't think it's a problem because Neymar is no longer in his prime as a footballer. Don't compare it to Ronaldo, who is very persistent, disciplined and hardworking so he is still playing at the age of 38.

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Bolivia does have the advantage of being at an altitude above 3000 meters above sea level. La Paz Stadium is an additional strength for the Bolivian National Team. However, I think this is not a problem for the South American team because Bolivia's strength ranking is very far below other South American teams. We can see Bolivia appearing in the world cup a long time ago.

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