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September 09, 2023, 02:07:00 PM
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If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.
Having a bitcointalk announcement thread does not legitimate a business. As you already said there are still risk. When a business scam then no matter if they have an account in bitcointalk or not, they will not give a cent back, they don't have to.

The best practice to legitimate a gambling site is to check if they have a valid license. So that if something unpleasant happen to you then you can complain the license body. However there are many crypto currency gambling platform who have no license but until they were able to prove their worth, it's not easy to gamble with the safely.   

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September 09, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious. .

The journey to become reputable starts from one day. These scam casinos can indeed entice gamers with attractive bonuses but this is not always the case. Although they might be difficult to identify, there are still many new casinos that are not scam projects. Some are genuinely out to do business. And we all know that one of the ways of attracting new customers is to offer attractive bonuses and wonderful offers.
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New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers. .

These may be signs of a badly managed casino, not really scam casinos. Some reputable casinos also experience these issues but when these problems occur consistently, then gamers need to be careful with such casino site. Some new casinos can experience these problems in the early stage of operations until they perfect thier system. New casinos are bound to make mistakes.

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6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews. .

I am not a believer in reviews because they can be deceptive. It is better to engage in research before using a casino. To be on the safer side, it is better to bet with reputable casinos especially the ones that have a reputation in bitcointalk community.

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September 09, 2023, 03:09:32 PM
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Yeah, that is one benefit of staying active on the forum. At least we get to know which casinos to try out and have a good reputation.
Although a casino site being on bitcointalk does not automatically means that they are genuine but over time they gain their reputation.
A good ANN thread shows that the casino site is serious with their site and this gives their users a positive impact about their reputation.

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September 09, 2023, 03:10:16 PM
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

When we are talking about things that relates to scam, I don't think anyone should be left out from being informed, this is not a serious challenge that onky the begginers could have, other experienced gamblers could also fall a victim if more attention is not given, the first attraction they use in setting up this kind of scam is by introducing a bonus offer for their  users, then they try to apply some certain conditions to be attached to these offers and before you know it, they are already physhing on user's data and many other fraudulent activities taken place underneath.

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Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

So if a scamming casino, does not have its ANN on bitcointalk, then people will not know about their scams as they won't be discussed here. This mean that most of the scam casino will not list their ANN here and this is one point that we may take, as you see if the Casino has an ANN thread or not.

If a casino has no ANN here, it is a straight NO for me to visit and test the new site. Having an ANN here means that people will publicly tell the good and bad things about the casino and it is better than the reviews sites like trust pilot etc.

I do agree with your statement.

Like what I also previously mentioned, a gambling casino that has an ANN thread on this forum can at least give you the sense of security of their genuineness. While such fact does not completely guarantee that they are real (e.g. Betnomi, 1xbit, etc.), at least there can be a comprehensive discussion about the website where everyone can input their experiences/problems should they have one.

In conclusion, look for casinos that contains an ANN on this forum to provide you at least an extra layer of security.

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Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

So if a scamming casino, does not have its ANN on bitcointalk, then people will not know about their scams as they won't be discussed here. This mean that most of the scam casino will not list their ANN here and this is one point that we may take, as you see if the Casino has an ANN thread or not.

If a casino has no ANN here, it is a straight NO for me to visit and test the new site. Having an ANN here means that people will publicly tell the good and bad things about the casino and it is better than the reviews sites like trust pilot etc.

I do agree with your statement.

Like what I also previously mentioned, a gambling casino that has an ANN thread on this forum can at least give you the sense of security of their genuineness. While such fact does not completely guarantee that they are real (e.g. Betnomi, 1xbit, etc.), at least there can be a comprehensive discussion about the website where everyone can input their experiences/problems should they have one.

For newbie sometimes its hard for them to determine on which is scam and which is legit since sometimes they only base on the ads they see or rely unto the feedbacks given by review sites that's why they came up late and research about the casino once they got scam by them. If they could really just track this forum early for sure they might not get scam by those scam casino since they can read all the feedbacks written or even discussed by legitimate experienced gamblers.

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September 09, 2023, 04:22:17 PM
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.
This has been the method utilised to entice people into getting scammed, and it's not just in the gambling industry, the same strategy is employed on other platforms as well. It is the main warning sign that newcomers should watch out for in order to spot a scam. When a gambling site wants to compete with established gambling brands and stay relevant, they create massive offers and bonuses to draw customers because that is the only way to steal them away from their rivals. Personally, I get discouraged when I see a business making such huge discounts because i think they won't be around for very long and are only doing it to draw in people so they can carryout their scam.

But not everytime all new gambling sites that make such offers end up as scam since it's the only way they can actually advertise their services and no one would want to work with a new brand if there is no reason to do so.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.
Regarding reviews we have to be very careful because OP is right, alot of people actually trust a company after going through the reviews but they can easily be deceived by the reviews because some scam companies will go as far as paying people to make positive reviews about them. Your research should not end after checking the reviews, we should research further and preferably it's better to make more enquiries here on the forum before using their services.

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September 09, 2023, 04:48:47 PM
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Yeah, that is one benefit of staying active on the forum. At least we get to know which casinos to try out and have a good reputation.
Although a casino site being on bitcointalk does not automatically means that they are genuine but over time they gain their reputation.
A good ANN thread shows that the casino site is serious with their site and this gives their users a positive impact about their reputation.

Yeah that's true because many casino which were also advertised here all turned out to be scam casino and the most annoying part is that they all started up very good so I guess when it's comes to new casino we all have to be very careful and not make any mistake by rushing to deposit  money into these casino because you might end up being scammed and regretting your actions that's if the funds is big.

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If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.
If a new casino really mean business and wants to be taking serious by forum members they have to create an announcement thread that's the viable medium of communication between the casino and their potential users. Any casino that tries to invade the creation of ANN thread is practically sending a message that they are not meant to be trusted in that ANN threads are like reviews ground for every experience a users encounters using the casino. I won't dare test a new casino without an ANN in the forum because to me they don't mean business and it also shows they're don't plan staying long too.

As forum member I agree on your statement but we should consider too that the forum is not the only place for the casino to male an announcement. We are just one out of many forum which they can announce their service so there’s a chance that there’s a lot pf trusted casino out there that still doesn’t have Bitcointalk forum.

ANN thread feedback is not always accurate since some casino performs very trusted on early introductions here then later turns into scam which you might fall victim if you rely only on feedback on the thread without doing further research. You can combine the ANN thread to casino review site like Gosu to verify their performance and cross check if the feedback is match on the ratings of 3rd party reviewer.

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Bonus is snare to newbies who want to receive free cash in the accounts to play game but they haven't thought the scamming side of the bonus, " there is no free bonus in free town in Sierra Leone", free things always hook people in the throats. When a site wants to scam people, the depositing link is always very active but the withdrawal link is the one always have issue. When you deposit and play games and probably win some games and you want to withdraw, and that is where the problem starts. That is where all the things you mentioned displayed. Though there were some casinos that were having ANN threads in the forum, yet the end up with Scam Accusation and left the forum.

No one is the best either having ANN in the forum or not. The best is always from the heart. Just take a precaution on any casino site and play the games. And at the beginning deposit a little to play the games for some times before you engaged yourself full.









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Yeah, that is one benefit of staying active on the forum. At least we get to know which casinos to try out and have a good reputation.
Although a casino site being on bitcointalk does not automatically means that they are genuine but over time they gain their reputation.
A good ANN thread shows that the casino site is serious with their site and this gives their users a positive impact about their reputation.

Yeah that's true because many casino which were also advertised here all turned out to be scam casino and the most annoying part is that they all started up very good so I guess when it's comes to new casino we all have to be very careful and not make any mistake by rushing to deposit  money into these casino because you might end up being scammed and regretting your actions that's if the funds is big.
It is very important for us to know how we use new casinos because there are a lot of bugs users experience which can frustrate newbies and make them think that all casinos do have the same problem.

Not all casinos experience majority of these problems because they have been in the market for long and might adjusted there games and site in the way that will be user friendly without toouch complain. It's good for us to use a good casinos especially the ones that have good reputations so that we can avoid unnecessary challenges being a user.









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You forgot the biggest issue : KYC! Almost all new crypto gambling sites state vague terms in their TOS for KYC which is usually ignored by gamblers and some of them end up getting screwed later on.

Gamblers need to spend more time reading the TOS of any site properly and clarifying any queries before depositing.

How many gamblers bother to read TOS or terms of agreement, on a just joined site, when the excitement of trying out the new gambling site is just a click away.
Many have had to learn from experience of ignorance because the time they would have taken to navigate the site to check for its authenticity and announcement on changes and upgrades, they go straight to credit their wallet and just gamble away, only to feel sorry after being penalized.
I do think even subscribing to a new registered gambling sites' newsletter, is one way to become serious about not losing out or falling cheaply to scammers or hackers.

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September 09, 2023, 05:17:14 PM
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Well, people can joke and have fun with casino announcements, in this particular case, with various bonuses and promotions. These things exist for us to have more fun...

First of all, watch your deposit, it's never a good call to deposit more than you can afford to lose, it's gambling... Once we make a deposit that's it. Some minor mistakes in understanding the bonus conditions are not too terrible, they mostly relate to the maximum bet, which games you can play, and probably most importantly what conditions must be met in order to be able to withdraw the profit, if we get there at all.

So just relax and don't be afraid to try new things out there, but for sure we need to pay attention on where we are trying and with how much money we are trying. Good Luck gamblers!

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I thought you're talking about gambling addiction and stuff, but nope.

Actually this kind problem is happen in every centralized exchange that related with money, it's no matter what's the business or service is. Centralized exchange, robot trading, cloud mining, investment company, P2P lending, casino etc are always the scam related to ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme.
Exactly any money-providing services most especially the centralized ones are prone to attacks being used as an exit scam on people and that is why one need to be very vigilant when dealing with any new casino or an exchange,  is better to stick to the old already known casinos instead risking your money on new casinos no matter what they promise you as a welcome bonus,  sometimes,  those bonuses are just traps and nothing more.

But still we still have some new casinos that are legit and we're able to maintain consistent for a long time, and in the end build a legit reputation for themselves in the long run,  so we can't conclude that all new casinos are scams or possible scams out rightly.
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So just relax and don't be afraid to try new things out there, but for sure we need to pay attention on where we are trying and with how much money we are trying. Good Luck gamblers!

I’m doing this practice for a long time just to change of atmosphere and try different type of bonus with unique requirements or challenge. I’m doing this with extra caution by using casino review site to verify the reputation of the new casino I’m going to enter.

I have different amount allocations on casino that has an ANN thread in the forum with good feeback in contrary to the casino that doesn’t have any feedback here yet trusted according to my trusted casino review site. There’s really no harm on exploring new casino as long as you do extra caution.

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Obviously, a new casino will offer something attractive even we refer to legit casinos.

That's how marketing works. Without something impressive and eye catching promotions and bonuses, these new casinos won't survive the competition especially today were there are lots of big casinos that already achieved being one of the famous casinos globally.

If we talk about new crypto casinos, I agree though that having an official announcement thread here does make sense and it's a big + for crypto users. But what if we talk about new casinos outside crypto? What will you do now where most of these sites don't have an announcement thread elsewhere. That's the time users should used their enhanced and improved DYOR or basically, just ignore new sites.

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September 09, 2023, 08:36:42 PM
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Yes, but we are now in this social community. There is no point in discussing other social platforms in this context. Also, we have a trust and flag system to alert members, which other platforms may not have. That is why I think it is important that the casino has an official representative and ANN topic here.
Many other platforms have ways to all out scams and notify others to steer clear.

Forum presence is important to us on who use it and will be of help to notify users here of what platforms to avoid, but is not a necessity for a casino house to have.

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September 09, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
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Yes, but we are now in this social community. There is no point in discussing other social platforms in this context. Also, we have a trust and flag system to alert members, which other platforms may not have. That is why I think it is important that the casino has an official representative and ANN topic here.
Many other platforms have ways to all out scams and notify others to steer clear.

Forum presence is important to us on who use it and will be of help to notify users here of what platforms to avoid, but is not a necessity for a casino house to have.

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This is the benefit of the forum where you can collect the ideas and comments about the site and use it to help you with your decisions either to try the site or just ignore it. I agree that if the offer is too good to be true then be careful with that, although most of the old sites here also have this kind of promotions before, its just that they are too good to be scam and they choose to do real business here instead of scamming people. Always do this with care and look for more informations as much as possible before trying it.
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September 09, 2023, 09:07:38 PM
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If you are thrilled or just interested in a brand new gambling platform, make sure to deposit exclusively small sums of money to test it, besides looking for reviews and feedbacks from another gamblers regards this service. This way you are safe from being scammed and losing considerable sums of money.

What you should keep in mind, though, is that promotions by such casinos are discouraged. Don't feel tempted into depositing a lot of money to take part promotions' requirements, expecting you are going to be rewarded later. Doesn't matter how good it looks, always be suspicious, since it's a recently launched website, therefore they don't have any solid evidence of reputation you can judge.

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September 09, 2023, 09:10:43 PM
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.

3. Lower withdrawal limits.

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.

If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

The list 1 to 5 is understandable since new casinos are still on their initial stage and is yet to optimized their services.  they are like testing the waters and adjust according to the need of improvement of their platform as players flocks in to their site.  While the list 6 simply means the casino isn't reputable at all since they have shown that they are not to be trusted because they are cheating their prospected player by creating fake reviews.  This kind of casino should be avoided at all cost.

I do not mind if the casino do not have an announcement here in Bitcointalk because it does not guarantee that it will not turn scam one day.  We have seen several casinos that have announcement here and yet they turned scam after some time.  They even have a signature campaign here so I am repeating that having an announcement thread here in Bitcointalk.org does not guarantee that it will not scam their players.
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