Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement

[Haunebu]

How many gamblers bother to read TOS or terms of agreement, on a just joined site, when the excitement of trying out the new gambling site is just a click away.
Many have had to learn from experience of ignorance because the time they would have taken to navigate the site to check for its authenticity and announcement on changes and upgrades, they go straight to credit their wallet and just gamble away, only to feel sorry after being penalized.

Most gamblers are lazy which is why they completely ignore the TOS and end up regretting it later on as you mentioned. The sites do warn them about any changes in their TOS now and then, but they ignore them too.

Why do beginners will gamble into a new casino? There are established casinos that have already been proven over time, and most of them are reliable. If the new players want to gamble, then those established casinos are the best to try out.

Every casino was new at some point. You shouldn't just ignore all new sites just because of a handful of scam sites.

[knowngunman]

Following your suggestion means not encouraging a new casino to expand their business. I don't agree with your points.

I second your view. I have seen numerous posts like this on this forum countless times and in my opinion it sounds as demarketing the new and upcoming casinos. A journey of thousand miles start with a step as the saying goes. Even the reputable casinos today started from somewhere and they wouldn't have come this far if people were discouraged to use them in the first place. I know it's very good to be cautious due to high growth of scam in the gambling sites now but without trial we can not tell if the casino is legit or scam and using Bitcointalk Ann thread as the basis of trust is ridiculous.

Bitcointalk is actually a bigger Forum with a significant number of gamblers. Having representative here in the forum and Ann thread is actually good in order to create awareness and attend to issues transparently but discarding casinos that does not have Ann thread in this forum is not a nice idea. I know of a reputable sites that have no representative here. The reason for most of this casinos presence in the forum is absolutely for marketing purposes.

[noormcs5]

How many gamblers bother to read TOS or terms of agreement, on a just joined site, when the excitement of trying out the new gambling site is just a click away.
Many have had to learn from experience of ignorance because the time they would have taken to navigate the site to check for its authenticity and announcement on changes and upgrades, they go straight to credit their wallet and just gamble away, only to feel sorry after being penalized.

Most gamblers are lazy which is why they completely ignore the TOS and end up regretting it later on as you mentioned. The sites do warn them about any changes in their TOS now and then, but they ignore them too.

Gamblers usually focus on the announcement of the casino but they never care to read the full terms and conditions associated with it. They realize it later when it is actually too late and the casino won't come to your rescue. Better we pay the same attention to the TOS as we are dedicated to reading the bonus and free play announcements.

Every casino was new at some point. You shouldn't just ignore all new sites just because of a handful of scam sites.

Well, I usually ignore the new casinos and wait for them to become a bit old when they have a few positive reviews and only then do I decide to deposit and play at those casinos.

[Gozie51]

Well, I usually ignore the new casinos and wait for them to become a bit old when they have a few positive reviews and only then do I decide to deposit and play at those casinos.

I also think that this is what solution that can be adopted to at least reduce the risk of getting scammed because some casino exit almost as soon as they have been launched so if you take a little more time maybe you can avert it. Although, some after some years may still go away but that could be because of harsh competition that they are not able to meet up to which is understandable.

But whichever way we try to protect ourselves from losing our money from scam, it is still discouraged to keep alot of money in your casino wallet because casino that intend to scam will not tell you they are going to exit. We need to safe ourselves the regret by only leaving little money in casino account.

[Crypt0Gore]

Even if the new online casino has ANN thread on the forum it still too early to know if the project will work out, some knew that they are about to scam their customers, they come on this forum to use people like us, by the way, you are also promoting a new online casino which means we can't know what they are up to yet, there is no reviews on that particular casino too.

My main point is, it will be stupid to think that any casinos that make their ways into this forum have good motives, some are here to scam as well, so you need to be careful with online casinos on this forum still, ANN threads means no shit.

You do have a solid point that some new casinos buy their reviews online, I have seen such thing played out before and the scam casino managed go attract some people and they got scammed.

Always do your own research

[Mr. Magkaisa]

A new casino can later become to scam. Sometimes the people that created the casino may not be able to market the casino very well and because of low profit in a way the casino can no longer function, they just stop the casino and not allowing people to withdraw.

I too will advice people to just try the casinos or other gambling sites on this forum instead. If it is a new casino, they should try it with little amount of money. They should try the ones that have signature campaign which are able to market their gambling sites on this forum. The gambling sites that I have gone for on this forum have active signature campaign and also having active announcement thread.

If it is a new gambling site that is not in this forum, I do not try to register and this has been the reason no casino has scammed me before. I am not saying that new gambling sites can not scam, use very low amount of money to gamble on such gambling sites.

       -   Exactly. It is difficult to put a large amount in a new casino that has appeared in the crypto gambling industry. Since nothing has been proven yet, your advice is also correct to only put a small amount of money into it first because there is a high chance that later, when it is not making much money, it will suddenly not allow them to issue a withdrawal amount to users.

It's really different when the casinos here in the forum that have been in this field for a long time are the ones we put money into to gamble. Rather than the new casinos here. We have nothing against that compared to those who already have a reputation and can solve any issues that old casinos have here in the crypto space.

[letteredhub]

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If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

If a new casino really mean business and wants to be taking serious by forum members they have to create an announcement thread that's the viable medium of communication between the casino and their potential users. Any casino that tries to invade the creation of ANN thread is practically sending a message that they are not meant to be trusted in that ANN threads are like reviews ground for every experience a users encounters using the casino. I won't dare test a new casino without an ANN in the forum because to me they don't mean business and it also shows they're don't plan staying long too.

As forum member I agree on your statement but we should consider too that the forum is not the only place for the casino to male an announcement. We are just one out of many forum which they can announce their service so there’s a chance that there’s a lot pf trusted casino out there that still doesn’t have Bitcointalk forum.

ANN thread feedback is not always accurate since some casino performs very trusted on early introductions here then later turns into scam which you might fall victim if you rely only on feedback on the thread without doing further research. You can combine the ANN thread to casino review site like Gosu to verify their performance and cross check if the feedback is match on the ratings of 3rd party reviewer.

It doesn't take a thing from them creating an ANN still in the bitcointalk forum just as they did in those others. Quite alright they may not be a scam casino just by not creating an ANN thread in the forums, but won't that give a wrong signal about them not valuing the patronage of bitcointalk forum members as they'd with those of other forums. Further research is also needed to be conducted about a new casino but nevertheless Ann announcement thread is the first and closest means of information to forum members and that's what makes it a necessity to be created .

[Pandu Geddon]

A new casino can later become to scam. Sometimes the people that created the casino may not be able to market the casino very well and because of low profit in a way the casino can no longer function, they just stop the casino and not allowing people to withdraw.

I too will advice people to just try the casinos or other gambling sites on this forum instead. If it is a new casino, they should try it with little amount of money. They should try the ones that have signature campaign which are able to market their gambling sites on this forum. The gambling sites that I have gone for on this forum have active signature campaign and also having active announcement thread.

If it is a new gambling site that is not in this forum, I do not try to register and this has been the reason no casino has scammed me before. I am not saying that new gambling sites can not scam, use very low amount of money to gamble on such gambling sites.

       -   Exactly. It is difficult to put a large amount in a new casino that has appeared in the crypto gambling industry. Since nothing has been proven yet, your advice is also correct to only put a small amount of money into it first because there is a high chance that later, when it is not making much money, it will suddenly not allow them to issue a withdrawal amount to users.

It's really different when the casinos here in the forum that have been in this field for a long time are the ones we put money into to gamble. Rather than the new casinos here. We have nothing against that compared to those who already have a reputation and can solve any issues that old casinos have here in the crypto space.

that's why it's important to try a new casino with multiple deposits and small bets. especially if they give you bonuses and big wins. when they allow withdrawals fairly, then their reputation will gradually grow in the forum.
I am not against new casinos, however, this business is quite profitable for some of the players. but how strong they are to compete with long-standing and reputable casinos depends on how consistent they are in doing everything well.
we can see that some new casinos only carry out campaigns on forums with a short duration, which doesn't mean it's bad but it proves that there is something wrong with their finances in terms of allocation for marketing and promotion.

[Eureka_07]

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I kinda agree to the list, except on points 4 and 5.
Some new casinos start with a limited selection of games and gradually expand based on player demand or their own preferences. Regarding limited payment methods, it can indeed be a matter of their choice. However, it's essential for players to research the casino they choose when trying out crypto casinos initially. Information is readily available, and you can also seek advice from platforms like Bitcointalk. Always remember to gamble responsibly.

[Jawhead999]

It doesn't take a thing from them creating an ANN still in the bitcointalk forum just as they did in those others. Quite alright they may not be a scam casino just by not creating an ANN thread in the forums, but won't that give a wrong signal about them not valuing the patronage of bitcointalk forum members as they'd with those of other forums. Further research is also needed to be conducted about a new casino but nevertheless Ann announcement thread is the first and closest means of information to forum members and that's what makes it a necessity to be created .

There are many reasons why not all crypto casinos creating an ANN thread in this forum:

1. Underestimate Bitcointalk.
2. Can't post due to evil IP address (don't want to pay the fee due to skepticism).
3. Never know about this forum.
4. The casino is created for scam in the first place, they don't want to get caught.
5. Don't want to get criticism.

Many of casinos in this forum can become big after they open an ANN thread, run a long term signature campaign, solving an accusation ASAP, and any other thing. It's just sad for some casinos stopped to run a campaign and inactive, they will not able to compete against the big casinos.

[YOSHIE]

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

What new casinos should do, advertise outside first before they advertise here, that should be done by every new casino, at least they have been operating for 1-2 years outside of a forum with a good reputation, After that, they go to Bitcointalk, because if they come here directly and if something untoward happens in a matter of hours, their reputation could collapse.

Nowadays we often see new casinos getting licenses directly here, actually the license is not a guarantee for them to act fraudulently for users who want to bet at their casinos, especially for beginners, Maybe that's one of the big targets for new casinos, but even so, as you said, information about new casinos outside this forum is important, at least they can judge which ones are good and bad for them, not only guided by the bonuses they offer, it could be a trap, I hope this forum will be the best for the whole world for those who advertise gambling here. Bottom line: judgment, caution, consideration are essential for those who want to gamble at a new casino.

[Gyfts]

If a Bitcoin accepting casino does not have an announcement thread on the forums, I disregard it entirely. Casinos willing to have forum presence show at least some degree of credibility. Makes it more difficult to hide customer feedback as well.

[maydna]

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lucky if you are already in this forum, because most probably, you already know how to look for legit casinos or bookies to place bet with. a lot are getting screwed because they don't know the reputation of the site itself. however, if you have been for quite some time, the chance of learning these casinos is quite high.
just consider the fact that no scam site can launch their campaign here. or if not, the campaign manger himself will pause or stop the campaign if the site has ongoing issue with their player. that alone, will give you a hint that no scam site can continue to promote their site. unless, there are some members here who continue to promote an allegedly scam site.

Yes, we who are on this forum are lucky because we can find a trusted casino and be included in the list of our favorite casinos. This gives us the opportunity to avoid fraud from casinos that do not intend to make their casinos big. Perhaps those from scam casinos will look for other places where they can promote to get more players. But when people from out there can visit this forum, they will see that this casino is one of the scam casinos they should avoid.

And yes, scam casinos cannot promote their casinos on this forum because all the members here will always say that the casino is a scam casino, so new people who try to gamble at the scam casino can refuse to choose the casino. They will see that this forum already has many trusted casinos, so they will start looking for these casinos to find a casino that is suitable for them.

~snip~

but we cannot deny that there are still some people that wanted to be fooled by  new and scam casino while there are already so many existing here with good reputation and have served gamblers for many years.
I don't know how long they will continue letting to be victim when there are so many safer gambling site this forum can offer.
but there is no wrong trying new casino , but make sure to dig harder to know them , and also to to limit your deposit and gaming , so if ever you turned victim there will small regret on you.

Yes, we cannot deny it, but at least it can help reduce the number of people tricked into playing at new or scam casinos because we always warn them not to try gambling at these casinos. It's better for them to take a moment to look for the casino than try a new one they don't know about yet.

As long as they don't want to search on this forum and just simply register and deposit their money, they will probably be cheated more often than those who search for the casino by reading reviews from members here. Yes, it's not wrong to try a new casino, but we have to try it with small money or money that we can afford so that we won't regret it later.

[Accardo]

Following your suggestion means not encouraging a new casino to expand their business. I don't agree with your points.

I second your view. I have seen numerous posts like this on this forum countless times and in my opinion it sounds as demarketing the new and upcoming casinos. A journey of thousand miles start with a step as the saying goes. Even the reputable casinos today started from somewhere and they wouldn't have come this far if people were discouraged to use them in the first place. I know it's very good to be cautious due to high growth of scam in the gambling sites now but without trial we can not tell if the casino is legit or scam and using Bitcointalk Ann thread as the basis of trust is ridiculous.

Bitcointalk is actually a bigger Forum with a significant number of gamblers. Having representative here in the forum and Ann thread is actually good in order to create awareness and attend to issues transparently but discarding casinos that does not have Ann thread in this forum is not a nice idea. I know of a reputable sites that have no representative here. The reason for most of this casinos presence in the forum is absolutely for marketing purposes.

Yes, marketing is the primary aim of any casino, to reach their goals, and make lots of money to settle their enormous bills. And it's rare to understand the plan of any casino, it can change at any time. Such things as staying in touch with casino announcements is a great advice. But, bitcointalk is not the only platform for gamblers to choose a good casino. Other casino guru forums exist where honest reviews are made to keep up with the genuineness of a casino. Yet it doesn't change anything for a casino that decides to cheat players after claiming to be genuine for few months. Forums as these only help reduce  the number of affected players, by alerting everyone to stay away from tricky or scam casinos.

[danadc]

If a Bitcoin accepting casino does not have an announcement thread on the forums, I disregard it entirely. Casinos willing to have forum presence show at least some degree of credibility. Makes it more difficult to hide customer feedback as well.

I am the same, if there is no presence of that casino in the forum I do not review it either, because on the web there may be many advertisements but they may be casinos that are focused on scams, or that make deposits to supposedly withdraw money and it is Purely, they make them deposit someone's money so that after that they make them scam and lose all the money, that is something that applies a lot, there are sites that are slot machines where you have free spins, then you make profits The casino tells them that they have to deposit so they can withdraw the money, and then what they do is not allow the withdrawal, there are many people who have fallen, I never trust those ads either.

[Hispo]

If a Bitcoin accepting casino does not have an announcement thread on the forums, I disregard it entirely. Casinos willing to have forum presence show at least some degree of credibility. Makes it more difficult to hide customer feedback as well.

Well, to be fair, there is always a small chance some Bitcoin casino won't have knowledge of the existence of this place. At least, I have got the impression Bitcointalk is not very popular or well known within the Spanish speaking part of the world; so I have seen some advertisements here in my city about casinos which one won't fine here in the forum. It is about the marketing priorities of those behind the casino, I guess.

Just because a casino does not have an official thread here it means it is a bad one, though I agree with you that it helps much to step up trust and the community support. Sadly, there are also companies which, even though they like Bitcoin and support BTC payments, are unaware that all of it began here.

[Haunebu]

Well, I usually ignore the new casinos and wait for them to become a bit old when they have a few positive reviews and only then do I decide to deposit and play at those casinos.

This is a cautious approach which is a good strategy, but most gamblers don't have the patience to wait and see due to which they end up investing right away if they like something related to the new site.

Impatience is also why they don't read the TOS properly before signing up as I mentioned earlier.

[Blitzboy]

If a Bitcoin accepting casino does not have an announcement thread on the forums, I disregard it entirely. Casinos willing to have forum presence show at least some degree of credibility. Makes it more difficult to hide customer feedback as well.

Well, to be fair, there is always a small chance some Bitcoin casino won't have knowledge of the existence of this place. At least, I have got the impression Bitcointalk is not very popular or well known within the Spanish speaking part of the world; so I have seen some advertisements here in my city about casinos which one won't fine here in the forum. It is about the marketing priorities of those behind the casino, I guess.

Just because a casino does not have an official thread here it means it is a bad one, though I agree with you that it helps much to step up trust and the community support. Sadly, there are also companies which, even though they like Bitcoin and support BTC payments, are unaware that all of it began here.

the world's a big place, and not every Bitcoin casino will know about or prioritize Bitcointalk. Different strokes for different folks, especially in the vibrant world of casinos.

You've got a point about the regional nuances. Some casinos might just be spinning their wheels in a different direction and focusing more on local advertising. Its not a sign of quality but of strategy. But yes, having a presence here surely ramps up the trust factor. A bit of education about Bitcoin's origins wouldnt hurt them, though. Knowledge is power, after all!

[darkangel11]

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

These two shouldn't be a problem as long as everything else is in order. There used to be a lot of successful online casinos that offered just one or two games. It's better to have a few good ones than a lot of bad ones


I like when the casino doesn't accept shitcoins. Less shitcoins usually means less issues and less unstable wallet software for the casino to worry about.
As far as fiat money goes, if they only accept fiat they aren't really a crypto casino and there's no point in talking about them here.

[dothebeats]

This is what I don't get as well. People who have been here for months or years try casinos that cannot be found on this forum, and then complains about getting scammed the next day asking for help to identify who the operators of the casino are. It doesn't work that way; if you want to be safe while gambling, better gamble on platforms that have active threads in here and runs a signature campaign. That ensures you that they are actively communicating with the community and can easily be reached out to if there are problems that need to be addressed.