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October 25, 2023, 01:18:53 PM
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It all depends on the player!  This is absolutely true! 
However, players are very different.  Someone visited the casino website for the first time and didn’t even read the ToS.  And another player has already played in 10 casinos and has experience in receiving his winninngs.  I think that mostly it is players with no experience at all and even without basic knowledge who most often find themselves in situations where they begin to think that the casino is deceiving them.  And that these casinos are fraudulent.  Several times on our forum I read such posts from indignant users who were allegedly deceived by the casino.  But when such users realize their mistake and casino representatives publicly explain to them the course of events when playing such an inexperienced player, then usually this issue ceases to be relevant. 
I think that 95% of all reviews with claims against casinos and accusations of fraud are exactly like this.
That's why it's useful to read the ToS of each casino because the rules will vary from one casino to another. And novice gamblers must also understand all the rules to understand the meaning of the casino rules. If they need help understanding it, they can ask the support service, which is always ready 24/7 to help those who need clarification or need help knowing. The novice gambler is just too lazy to read the ToS and just wants to immediately register himself and start depositing his money and immediately start gambling. If they gamble at a shady casino, they will only experience fraud from the casino, but if they gamble at a trusted casino, they will not experience any problems. If there is a misunderstanding, the casino will understand it, and perhaps the novice gambler will receive compensation from the casino as a small gift for the novice gambler.

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October 25, 2023, 03:08:44 PM
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It all depends on the player!  This is absolutely true! 
However, players are very different.  Someone visited the casino website for the first time and didn’t even read the ToS.  And another player has already played in 10 casinos and has experience in receiving his winninngs.  I think that mostly it is players with no experience at all and even without basic knowledge who most often find themselves in situations where they begin to think that the casino is deceiving them.  And that these casinos are fraudulent.  Several times on our forum I read such posts from indignant users who were allegedly deceived by the casino.  But when such users realize their mistake and casino representatives publicly explain to them the course of events when playing such an inexperienced player, then usually this issue ceases to be relevant. 
I think that 95% of all reviews with claims against casinos and accusations of fraud are exactly like this.
That's why it's useful to read the ToS of each casino because the rules will vary from one casino to another. And novice gamblers must also understand all the rules to understand the meaning of the casino rules. If they need help understanding it, they can ask the support service, which is always ready 24/7 to help those who need clarification or need help knowing. The novice gambler is just too lazy to read the ToS and just wants to immediately register himself and start depositing his money and immediately start gambling. If they gamble at a shady casino, they will only experience fraud from the casino, but if they gamble at a trusted casino, they will not experience any problems. If there is a misunderstanding, the casino will understand it, and perhaps the novice gambler will receive compensation from the casino as a small gift for the novice gambler.
The terms of use on almost all sites are similar, if not pasted copies of one another. For new users or those who have mastered the basics without much experience, it will not be of much benefit to them to carefully review these conditions if the platform intends to trick them. In this sense, the forum has one of the most important roles related to those reviews published by users from here and there, which can greatly help in guiding those new users to choose which casinos are safer and which platforms are more suitable for each of their preparations.
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October 26, 2023, 02:40:59 PM
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The terms of use on almost all sites are similar, if not pasted copies of one another. For new users or those who have mastered the basics without much experience, it will not be of much benefit to them to carefully review these conditions if the platform intends to trick them. In this sense, the forum has one of the most important roles related to those reviews published by users from here and there, which can greatly help in guiding those new users to choose which casinos are safer and which platforms are more suitable for each of their preparations.
Yes, forums can help provide more information because some members already have experience playing gambling on certain casino sites and even casino sites outside this forum. They will provide reviews to members who ask about the site or share their experiences gambling at other casinos. This will certainly be useful for anyone looking for more information about the casino so they can know their options. In this forum, we already have many recommended casinos that can be an option for people who haven't found their favorite casino and still want to read reviews from members here.

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October 26, 2023, 02:50:16 PM
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The terms of use on almost all sites are similar, if not pasted copies of one another. For new users or those who have mastered the basics without much experience, it will not be of much benefit to them to carefully review these conditions if the platform intends to trick them. In this sense, the forum has one of the most important roles related to those reviews published by users from here and there, which can greatly help in guiding those new users to choose which casinos are safer and which platforms are more suitable for each of their preparations.
Yes, forums can help provide more information because some members already have experience playing gambling on certain casino sites and even casino sites outside this forum. They will provide reviews to members who ask about the site or share their experiences gambling at other casinos. This will certainly be useful for anyone looking for more information about the casino so they can know their options. In this forum, we already have many recommended casinos that can be an option for people who haven't found their favorite casino and still want to read reviews from members here.
Actually, for me though, I don't see any need or reason to still gamble on any casino that is outside this forum since i am already here, except i have been gambling on that casino before i find my way into this forum, then that is totally a different case, but for me to be in this forum and be looking at gambling on casinos that are outside this forum, i honestly do not think it makes sense though some people may still think there is nothing wrong with that.

There are a lot of great casinos here on the forum, good and reputable casinos one doesn't have to search so hard to trust, and the beautiful thing is that, since the casino is already here, it's very easy to follow them up in terms of updates, and also very easy and convenient to report the casino any time they begin to mess up.

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October 26, 2023, 03:51:44 PM
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Actually, for me though, I don't see any need or reason to still gamble on any casino that is outside this forum since i am already here, except i have been gambling on that casino before i find my way into this forum, then that is totally a different case, but for me to be in this forum and be looking at gambling on casinos that are outside this forum, i honestly do not think it makes sense though some people may still think there is nothing wrong with that.

For the bitcointalk forum users, yes, it is easy to choose the casino as there are so many casinos having advertisements here, and most of them have ANN threads where official representatives are actively replying to gamblers' queries. We do not need to seek gambling sites other than on this forum as I think that the best of the best sites are advertising here.


There are a lot of great casinos here on the forum, good and reputable casinos one doesn't have to search so hard to trust, and the beautiful thing is that, since the casino is already here, it's very easy to follow them up in terms of updates, and also very easy and convenient to report the casino any time they begin to mess up.

Another thing is that here you will get true feedback of the casino sites on their gambling Ann threads. There is no paid or false feedback on bitcointalk as we often see on other platforms such as trust pilot etc.

Also, most of the time, all the announcements of the gambling sites are posted on the ANN thread and thoroughly discussed by the members, hence this forum is one of the convenient ways to know about all the updates of the casino sites.

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October 26, 2023, 04:05:02 PM
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The terms of use on almost all sites are similar, if not pasted copies of one another. For new users or those who have mastered the basics without much experience, it will not be of much benefit to them to carefully review these conditions if the platform intends to trick them. In this sense, the forum has one of the most important roles related to those reviews published by users from here and there, which can greatly help in guiding those new users to choose which casinos are safer and which platforms are more suitable for each of their preparations.
Yes, forums can help provide more information because some members already have experience playing gambling on certain casino sites and even casino sites outside this forum. They will provide reviews to members who ask about the site or share their experiences gambling at other casinos. This will certainly be useful for anyone looking for more information about the casino so they can know their options. In this forum, we already have many recommended casinos that can be an option for people who haven't found their favorite casino and still want to read reviews from members here.
There is no doubt that this forum is considered one of the best places where the user can find what he is looking for when it comes to choosing the appropriate casino platform for him. But I would like to point out an important point based on your statement: Just as most review sites are not honest enough to be trusted by a wide range of users, given that fake reviews can be published to deceive readers, the same thing can happen to the forum. Therefore, it must be known that choosing a platform by looking at the reviews should not be random because not all reviews are correct and objective.
The best way to do this is to ask directly in a separate topic and follow the opinions of trusted users as directed by them who can be trusted based on their reputation.
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October 26, 2023, 06:39:01 PM
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Actually, for me though, I don't see any need or reason to still gamble on any casino that is outside this forum since i am already here, except i have been gambling on that casino before i find my way into this forum, then that is totally a different case, but for me to be in this forum and be looking at gambling on casinos that are outside this forum, i honestly do not think it makes sense though some people may still think there is nothing wrong with that.

There are a lot of great casinos here on the forum, good and reputable casinos one doesn't have to search so hard to trust, and the beautiful thing is that, since the casino is already here, it's very easy to follow them up in terms of updates, and also very easy and convenient to report the casino any time they begin to mess up.
I agree with you because at least I don't look for other casinos outside this forum because I'm too afraid of becoming a scam victim. I have also found many trusted casinos recommended by members of this forum, making it easier for me to find casinos that have become my favorite casinos for gambling. Casinos outside this forum do not guarantee that they can provide comfort like what we get in this forum, especially since the casinos out there do not have representatives on this forum, so if we experience problems, we will not be able to solve them.

That is why many of us are comfortable with the casinos on this forum and feel there is no need to look for casinos from outside this forum. We can also gamble comfortably without having any problems, and if, for example, we experience problems, we can ask for help from the casino representatives on this forum. And the casino representative will help to solve our problem well.
~snip~
There is no doubt that this forum is considered one of the best places where the user can find what he is looking for when it comes to choosing the appropriate casino platform for him. But I would like to point out an important point based on your statement: Just as most review sites are not honest enough to be trusted by a wide range of users, given that fake reviews can be published to deceive readers, the same thing can happen to the forum. Therefore, it must be known that choosing a platform by looking at the reviews should not be random because not all reviews are correct and objective.
The best way to do this is to ask directly in a separate topic and follow the opinions of trusted users as directed by them who can be trusted based on their reputation.
The method you explain can be tried for those who don't understand and still want to find a casino site that is suitable for them. I guess they can try other reviews from other members to find the casino. But even though they have found lots of reviews, they still have to try the casinos one by one because each person's experience is different. By trying the casinos one by one, they will know which casino they are looking for, not just because of the reviews from members. We can only provide casino reviews and recommendations. However, people still have to search and find their own casino without help from other people because it is a matter of comfort in gambling at a casino that will be different from other people.

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October 26, 2023, 09:31:24 PM
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I say, if you're a beginner gambler and you're just learning the ropes into this industry, Don't go for the new casinos as they typically come with more risks and less payoffs. Stick to those that are already established like Stake, Duelbits, or whatever's already up and running for years now. It's much better to be safe and enjoying your gambling journey than risking it and eventually losing your money to either casinos with convoluting withdrawal schemes, or outright scams. And it's not like these established casinos I spoke of earlier's not pushing out deals, discounts and giveaways anyway, just play with those that everyone already knows so you don't have to trouble yourself with dealing with scammers.

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October 26, 2023, 10:00:50 PM
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If you stay close to a casino to understand what is happening. It is good thing that beginning us should get accustomed to reading casino announcements however this does not make them a meal true losses on the same casino. The outcomes are totally random.

The one advantage of reading casino announcement is that you get to know what they casino is doing like are they bringing new games , payment methods etc. all these are vitally important.

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October 26, 2023, 10:27:52 PM
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I say, if you're a beginner gambler and you're just learning the ropes into this industry, Don't go for the new casinos as they typically come with more risks and less payoffs. Stick to those that are already established like Stake, Duelbits, or whatever's already up and running for years now. It's much better to be safe and enjoying your gambling journey than risking it and eventually losing your money to either casinos with convoluting withdrawal schemes, or outright scams. And it's not like these established casinos I spoke of earlier's not pushing out deals, discounts and giveaways anyway, just play with those that everyone already knows so you don't have to trouble yourself with dealing with scammers.
The wisest thing to be done rather t han on making yourself that being too careless on dealing with those new casinos which we know that tendency of scams could really happen and it would be just that wise that you should really be sticking into something that will really be that less risky and its the smartest thing to be done.On the time that you would really registering then it would be always
recommended that you should really be that aware or able to read up sites terms and conditions. This is where usually people getting have some issues later on, if you arent aware of their terms
then they could really be able to make use against you on which leaving you no choice but losing up your winning entirely.

Whenever there's announcement then you should really be that attentive, in regarding for people not to read up any terms and conditions is that we are really that too
lazy on reading up that long pile of text on the time that we do able to see it up on the time that we do register which i couldnt really blame out because im also like this.  Tongue

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October 26, 2023, 10:33:54 PM
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The wisest thing to be done rather t han on making yourself that being too careless on dealing with those new casinos which we know that tendency of scams could really happen and it would be just that wise that you should really be sticking into something that will really be that less risky and its the smartest thing to be done.

When the new casino sites was come to the market,it’s essential for the gambler to Check the background of the website.The details of the owner,developer and the origin country of the website.If the owner social media account was fake,you can change the mind of using that gambling site.If the three mention detail was accepted and the origin country from the developed country,So the gambler will use the gambling site.Incase the any of this was not acceptable,the gambler should use the other gambling sites.Because we are using the real money in the gambling site,So we can’t take risk in the usage of gambling site.
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It all depends on the player!  This is absolutely true! 
However, players are very different.  Someone visited the casino website for the first time and didn’t even read the ToS.  And another player has already played in 10 casinos and has experience in receiving his winninngs.  I think that mostly it is players with no experience at all and even without basic knowledge who most often find themselves in situations where they begin to think that the casino is deceiving them.  And that these casinos are fraudulent.  Several times on our forum I read such posts from indignant users who were allegedly deceived by the casino.  But when such users realize their mistake and casino representatives publicly explain to them the course of events when playing such an inexperienced player, then usually this issue ceases to be relevant. 
I think that 95% of all reviews with claims against casinos and accusations of fraud are exactly like this.
That's why it's useful to read the ToS of each casino because the rules will vary from one casino to another. And novice gamblers must also understand all the rules to understand the meaning of the casino rules. If they need help understanding it, they can ask the support service, which is always ready 24/7 to help those who need clarification or need help knowing. The novice gambler is just too lazy to read the ToS and just wants to immediately register himself and start depositing his money and immediately start gambling. If they gamble at a shady casino, they will only experience fraud from the casino, but if they gamble at a trusted casino, they will not experience any problems. If there is a misunderstanding, the casino will understand it, and perhaps the novice gambler will receive compensation from the casino as a small gift for the novice gambler.
It's absolutely true that new players almost never read ToS.  And even more so, they don’t read them carefully and understand the intricacies of different points of the rules of playing in a casino.  But it’s probably not worth scolding newcomers for this, because most of them just want to start playing quickly and automatically, without thinking, click the “agree” icon.  Also, of course, newcomers to casino gambling do not place large bets in the first hours of their game.  They still try to play with a smafl amount. 

I, too, when I started gambling, I absolutely remember that I didn’t read any ToS, but just wanted to start playing.  And I kept putting off reading the rules until the next days.  Then I really began to read, and not in its entirety, but individual points that I considered important for me.

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October 27, 2023, 11:18:38 AM
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Just as most review sites are not honest enough to be trusted by a wide range of users, given that fake reviews can be published to deceive readers, the same thing can happen to the forum. Therefore, it must be known that choosing a platform by looking at the reviews should not be random because not all reviews are correct and objective.
The best way to do this is to ask directly in a separate topic and follow the opinions of trusted users as directed by them who can be trusted based on their reputation.
The forum works way differently than a review site where users basically create an account with a random email address and post a review, it will be publicly available and it will also have an impact on the overall trust rating of the particular website or service they are leaving a review for. There are a lot of things like the trust system, active moderators, and trusted forum members who are constantly reading and responding to messages and threads just to make sure that people don't get misguided.

So, posting a fake review and successfully misguiding people on this forum isn't as easy as one might think, because if you create a normal thread and allow everyone to comment, you will be exposed in no time, and if you create a self-moderated thread just to delete comments that are trying to expose you, you will be reported to the mods and will probably get the thread deleted because it is misguiding.

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October 27, 2023, 11:50:25 AM
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New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.

3. Lower withdrawal limits.

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.

these issues are in favor of the sites , but what about the issues that go against them? like Asking KYC when going withdraw but not asking when depositing.

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1- and the number 4? the casino that priorities fiat is not totally a crypto casino instead they are just luring some from our ends.

2 - lacking of game collection? that maybe because they don't want to extend their business and not focusing in progress and upgrade.

it is best to face these 2, because we are to favor players instead of site .


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October 27, 2023, 01:45:13 PM
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It's absolutely true that new players almost never read ToS.  And even more so, they don’t read them carefully and understand the intricacies of different points of the rules of playing in a casino.  But it’s probably not worth scolding newcomers for this, because most of them just want to start playing quickly and automatically, without thinking, click the “agree” icon.  Also, of course, newcomers to casino gambling do not place large bets in the first hours of their game.  They still try to play with a smafl amount. 

I, too, when I started gambling, I absolutely remember that I didn’t read any ToS, but just wanted to start playing.  And I kept putting off reading the rules until the next days.  Then I really began to read, and not in its entirety, but individual points that I considered important for me.
If a novice gambler still thinks like that, we can't force them because they will feel it. After all, we only advise that because many of us have experienced it, and we don't want them to experience it too just because of something trivial. Some beginners will want to read the rules until they understand them and contact support if they need help understanding something. This is because they don't want to miss any information in the casino and don't want to experience any problems while gambling at the casino. This is what all novice gamblers must do to avoid the problems other novice gamblers face.

We have had a similar experience where I didn't think to read the rules when I first started gambling. But fortunately, at that time, I didn't use much money and only gambled moderately. And I once gambled with big money but didn't win any winnings.

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October 27, 2023, 11:30:41 PM
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If a novice gambler still thinks like that, we can't force them because they will feel it. After all, we only advise that because many of us have experienced it, and we don't want them to experience it too just because of something trivial. Some beginners will want to read the rules until they understand them and contact support if they need help understanding something. This is because they don't want to miss any information in the casino and don't want to experience any problems while gambling at the casino. This is what all novice gamblers must do to avoid the problems other novice gamblers face.

We have had a similar experience where I didn't think to read the rules when I first started gambling. But fortunately, at that time, I didn't use much money and only gambled moderately. And I once gambled with big money but didn't win any winnings.

The gamblers with more knowledge will read the entire rules of the gambling sites and they were ready to build the game based on the new rules to the gambling site.Only the new people will not read the rules and start to loss their money in the gambling sites.If you are using the casino for the longer period,it’s your responsibility to mange the rules and new announcement to the casino sites.It’s essential for the gambler to use the new rules in the upcoming game to avoid of loss of funds because of not following the rules.
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October 28, 2023, 01:54:18 PM
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The gamblers with more knowledge will read the entire rules of the gambling sites and they were ready to build the game based on the new rules to the gambling site.Only the new people will not read the rules and start to loss their money in the gambling sites.If you are using the casino for the longer period,it’s your responsibility to mange the rules and new announcement to the casino sites.It’s essential for the gambler to use the new rules in the upcoming game to avoid of loss of funds because of not following the rules.
We can only advise new or novice gamblers to read the rules at the casino so that they know what they can and cannot do while they are gambling and when they want to withdraw their money. But if they still don't want to follow what we suggest, that's up to them because we can't force them to do what we suggest. By reading all the rules, they will understand and will not try to break them because it could cause their gambling account to experience problems and could be frozen by the casino.

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October 28, 2023, 03:32:21 PM
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Just as most review sites are not honest enough to be trusted by a wide range of users, given that fake reviews can be published to deceive readers, the same thing can happen to the forum. Therefore, it must be known that choosing a platform by looking at the reviews should not be random because not all reviews are correct and objective.
The best way to do this is to ask directly in a separate topic and follow the opinions of trusted users as directed by them who can be trusted based on their reputation.
The forum works way differently than a review site where users basically create an account with a random email address and post a review, it will be publicly available and it will also have an impact on the overall trust rating of the particular website or service they are leaving a review for. There are a lot of things like the trust system, active moderators, and trusted forum members who are constantly reading and responding to messages and threads just to make sure that people don't get misguided.

So, posting a fake review and successfully misguiding people on this forum isn't as easy as one might think, because if you create a normal thread and allow everyone to comment, you will be exposed in no time, and if you create a self-moderated thread just to delete comments that are trying to expose you, you will be reported to the mods and will probably get the thread deleted because it is misguiding.
I know this is not easy on the forum, but it is possible. It does not always require creating new accounts to post fake reviews because there are members with old memberships who provide these services for a fee. These members publish their service offers on other sites, not on the forum, of course, and most likely they present their offers on Telegram and Discord groups. This is in addition to the possibility of purchasing an account with a relatively high membership, which can be claimed to be a member of the Scam platform team, for example, or that he has tried the service and is satisfied with it.
I hope I am not presenting ideas to scammers to help them deceive people further, but this is actually the reality of what is happening and what can be done.
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October 29, 2023, 07:10:21 AM
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It's absolutely true that new players almost never read ToS.  And even more so, they don’t read them carefully and understand the intricacies of different points of the rules of playing in a casino.  But it’s probably not worth scolding newcomers for this, because most of them just want to start playing quickly and automatically, without thinking, click the “agree” icon.  Also, of course, newcomers to casino gambling do not place large bets in the first hours of their game.  They still try to play with a smafl amount. 

I, too, when I started gambling, I absolutely remember that I didn’t read any ToS, but just wanted to start playing.  And I kept putting off reading the rules until the next days.  Then I really began to read, and not in its entirety, but individual points that I considered important for me.

I guess this is something not limited to Casinos, ToS are hardly read by anyone whether you are opening a bank account or installing a Windows operating system. The main reason is ToS are so lengthy for people to read in short duration, majority just prefer to press 'I accept' button and get started. We only start paying attention to these terms and conditions once we are struck on some issue and support representative says you already agreed to these terms.
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I guess this is something not limited to Casinos, ToS are hardly read by anyone whether you are opening a bank account or installing a Windows operating system. The main reason is ToS are so lengthy for people to read in short duration, majority just prefer to press 'I accept' button and get started. We only start paying attention to these terms and conditions once we are struck on some issue and support representative says you already agreed to these terms.
Hahaha it very true what you say if almost everyone feels bored and reluctant to read high fives because there are long list of rules written down, they prefer to agree directly without reading what in tos.
But things like this will actually make it difficult for them at some point because they don't know in detail what rules and prohibitions gambling site or so on has.
It is very important to know the contents of the tos so that we can avoid all forms of prohibitions and we can remain wise gamblers by obeying them all.

Well, when we have problem we will think about reading the high five and studying what is contained in it so as not to repeat the same mistake, but some people don't want to read after making mistake because they feel the problem has been solved with the support team.

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