Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky

[Odusko]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

I wonder why OP would bother contacting support for his ban account because he has already profitted from the casino in question and I doubt if they are ever going to unban that account because they are going to see him as a scammer as he beat their promotion. If it were off line, he probably would be visited by the casino because he either took advantage of the loop hole on the casino. Although, it is the casino who have allowed themselves the laspes as they didn't realize early enough on what was happening.

The Op is very lucky and I don't understand what he is asking from the casino or he is encouraging other accounts to go through the way he went, I'm sure the casino will be on the look out for such violation.

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

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[Beparanf]

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

He already provide some speculation on he get that promotion offer on the introduction of his post. He assumed that Rollbit might have access to his Stake information for being high roller in there which is really possible since some casino has some connected networks for players casino information that's why they can detect fraud activities even it happened from different casino.

Casino doesn't violate any ToS to claim the bonus. I believe the reason for the ban is due to his successful completing the bonus due to his strategy.

[darkangel11]

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

Maybe it's not that they downloaded his betting history from Stake, like OP thinks, but he received the bonus by mistake and gambled with it, without reporting it as a bug. Rollbit saw their mistake and saw player as untrustworthy. Instead of making things clear to the player they banned him. It's strange behavior, I agree, but I don't get how a casino would know how much a player has wagered on another sites and give that player freebies just for being a high roller somewhere else.

[BitcoinPanther]

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

This is indeed an abused if you cash out huge amount of money from their promotion using this strategy. Not totally an abused such as cheating but rather an abused to their promotion for using a safe bet to complete which they didn’t anticipate as loop hole to claim their prize in sure manner.

I am puzzled why is this abuse when the site itself is surely aware of it thus they offered this odds to their player.  I wonder if a player should have asked the support for confirmation before betting this kind of odds to keep the account safe.

It’s like when you find a bug on a software and you didn’t report. This is the reason for banning you because you already earned a lot from their bonus without risking any of your money. It’s their fault for counting wager from low odds bet but they have the right to ban your abusing the promotion. This is the reason why you still manage to withdraw because they are not aware on your method.

Can you explain why this is abusing the promotion?  Does winning from freebies considers an abuse now?  The way I look at it, it is the casinos fault and the player is just playing along the odds offered by the casino.  The casino should not offered the odds if it is not allowed to bet on. Probably @OP had done something that triggers the casino fraud security system aside from these low odds bet.

You already got profit saw I don’t see the need to create this thread? You are hurt that you can’t do the same trick to earn profit because casino ain’t charity. They will surely ban the user who’s continuously cashing out without risking money in the casino.

The casino should have not offered the bonuses if they can't afford to pay player that accept their generous offer if they continuously winning using the bonus amount.

[Coin_trader]

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Read my following post after that to have an overview on what I really mean.

This will help you to get what's my point here:

Maybe everyone forget here the premise of this thread. The OP got ban after clearing the promotion and withdrawn his balance. I’m just telling that it’s the way of the casino to limit user like OP that is not profitable to them by doing strategy to abused promotion. I’m not justifying the promotion rules or the way it can be claim. I’m giving only an insight on why the OP get banned.

My word abused here is for the casino reasoning on banning him out and not the literal abuse for player PoV since he doesn't violate any ToS. Please remember that he was ban after he withdraw his bonus profit. Simply the OP find a way to claim promotion without taking normal risk on gambling. It's an abuse to the casino promotion as a business owner PoV because the player is just playing minimal risk just to claim the bonus. I'm not telling that player should take risk intentionally but that's what the casino is thinking as reason for the ban.

My last reply on this thread.



This reply by @arallmuus is the simplest form of what I'm referring.

It seems Rollbit will restrict any account that attempt to do this type of bet. Wagering on their sportsbook will be counted as 3x of your wager so its pretty easy to level up your account with this type of 1.01 bet. I cant really find any fine print regarding this but I guess they dont really want to scare people around by putting that in their T&C and such

Considering that Rollbit gives alot of bonuses, I'd say they are losing pretty deep there if alot of people start doing this therefore they will nuke anyone that tried this

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

To be honest it does not make sense. You give me an option then when I use it you tell me I abused it, it is not allowed. Is it a joke?
If that happen to me then I will be mad and will not think a second to create a flag against the casino.

Rollbit is very aware of it as far as I can remember now. In a thread they talked about it as well.

Obviously Casino is a business not a charity but that does not give them license to do whatever they want. Either remove the odd which are 99.99999% easy to win or give the winning without making an excuse. Would they refund if such a bet was lost? No.

[crwth]

Having a high tier on the casinos definitely enable you to become a recipient of the bonuses that you have and that 6k for free is definitely something to be happy about and not to be scoffed at. You enabling it to make it into a 50-80k in the past year is outstanding. It's nothing to be ashamed about. Like wow. 

I'm quite of the edge with you with the Rollbit thing because you were able to cash out for a year and then with the sudden ban, there might be something curious with your account that made them do that.

Maybe you are just winning too much lol.

[Wind_FURY]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

You’re one of the lucky gambler to received such bonuses, maybe there’s a terms for that and you just have to know it. Rollbit will surely communicate it with you as they have an active support. Mind to share some proof here? Because most if your post are about a fake/scam site specifically about gambling sites.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”.  
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.


People here needs to understand that the promotion was a sign up bonus, which i could have cashed out instantly since there was no strings attached.

To odds on a 1.01 bet is not abusive at all, and it maybe happend like 10-20 times out of a thousand bets. Its normal for people who wants to climb the ranks to bet like that. I do that on Stake as well, and thats totally ok. Its not unusal that people also lose on odds 1.01, that happend to me as well.   Like Chelsea is up 3-1 in 80 minute, you place a odds 1.01 and the other team scores 2 goals the next 10 minutes.. It happends often!

Its like betting on Crash and cash it out on 1.01, is that abusive as well? People needs to understand that such bets is ok! You can climb the ranks faster but you lose big money when it fails. Its normal and totally ok.

I dont intend to speak fore to them.. Im fine with that being closed for good when they ban people without explanation, and i leave with good profit. I just want to make people aware that they can’t trust them at all.. Getting banned without knowing the reason is crazy and i wish for nobody to have balance in there while this happend.

Also remember that Rollbit is non transparent at all. No names on owners, all support/admins uses nicknames and they decide the communication.. if they dont want to discuss with you, they stop answeing. Thats how they do.

It's probably "technically not abusive", but it could be that from the casino's viewpoint? Plus like you said in your OP, you have withdrawn $50,000 - $80,000 in the past year and possibly another $50,000 - $80,000 more every year for the NEXT FEW years, do you really believe the site will just allow you to do that to them? Right or wrong from a user's point of view, it was a business decision to lock your account and kick you out, and it should be an expected one in my opinion. If you wanted to have a consistent stream of revenue from doing that, then you should have made other "moves" that makes you look like a pleb-gambler.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Nice story.

Glad you got lucky and they paid you.
I also got the same promotion email and since I was platinum 3 at the time I got 100$ if I remember correctly.

Contrary to you they wanted me to deposit before being eligible to withdraw, and they wanted full KYC.
Since I don't trust this site at all with my documents I refused to do KYC and moved on with my life, without the free money.

Ever since I am trying to warn about rollbit. A site that uses stolen data of a competitor for self promotion cannot be trusted in my eyes.

[goaldigger]

Having a high tier on the casinos definitely enable you to become a recipient of the bonuses that you have and that 6k for free is definitely something to be happy about and not to be scoffed at. You enabling it to make it into a 50-80k in the past year is outstanding. It's nothing to be ashamed about. Like wow. 

I'm quite of the edge with you with the Rollbit thing because you were able to cash out for a year and then with the sudden ban, there might be something curious with your account that made them do that.

Maybe you are just winning too much lol.

Still not a reason though to ban the account not unless the account made something suspicious aside from always winning.
Getting that free money is still a good one, and luck continues until he made a lot of profit from it, the site should still inform why though.
Being a high tier gambler means a lot, Rollbit site probably expect more from this player but the result is not in favor to them, hard to know though.

[Rollbit Razer]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

[bitbollo]

do we have all the details of the story? obviously not.
we only hear one part without any proof of what was said.

why post this information, and exactly, what should we look out for? to a casino that applies its TOS?

Anyway thanks for this warning. the day I will reach a diamond level on stake... I'll know what to do!

[goaldigger]

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

Check this one, maybe you have your records for this or else OP is just bluffing here and just trying to ruin the reputation of the site.
I hope we also get the updates here, so we can know if OP is telling the truth or not.
This is your best chance now OP, better to start communicating with them, good luck for this one.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”.  
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.
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[fritvalg]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

Hi!
Thanks for looking into this.

I was thinking, based on your replies to other issues regarding “sportsbook abuse”, could we then try something new to show some transparancy and make users make their own opinions about whats going on?

What you clarify exactly what i did wrong? Post the bets you think were abusive.. cause the more i think about it, the more Im sure i actually placed 1.1 odds bets rather than 1.01..

I have seen you only just post “yes 100% sportsbook abuse” .. i would like it detailed exactly what happend and why. Could we do that?

[Shishir99]

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

We are not talking here the 100% guarantee but the way you place bet just to claim the promotion reward. As a business owner. Are you happy that someone placing that kind of bet which he will not normally do without any promotion involved? This is why I said above if you read it that promotion is not intended that way. It’s an extra reward for your normal bets.

I understand your point. It's true that no casinos want their players take advantage of bonuses. It's not profitable for their business at all. But, what I am saying is, they have option to limit these things. They are aware of such behavior as they are the owner and they are the first one to notice the abuse. I believe you have played in some casinos where your wager does not count as qualified wager if you place bets in low odds. For example, In some casinos, you cannot use your free bet ticket on below 1.50 odds. Your wager won't count from table games. Your wager won't count from 99% win chance dice bets. Actually you can limit these things if you want as casino owner. But, why did you kept it open for users?

[fritvalg]

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

We are not talking here the 100% guarantee but the way you place bet just to claim the promotion reward. As a business owner. Are you happy that someone placing that kind of bet which he will not normally do without any promotion involved? This is why I said above if you read it that promotion is not intended that way. It’s an extra reward for your normal bets.

I understand your point. It's true that no casinos want their players take advantage of bonuses. It's not profitable for their business at all. But, what I am saying is, they have option to limit these things. They are aware of such behavior as they are the owner and they are the first one to notice the abuse. I believe you have played in some casinos where your wager does not count as qualified wager if you place bets in low odds. For example, In some casinos, you cannot use your free bet ticket on below 1.50 odds. Your wager won't count from table games. Your wager won't count from 99% win chance dice bets. Actually you can limit these things if you want as casino owner. But, why did you kept it open for users?

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

[acroman08]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

"If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse", That is a scary thing to say. I've done a lot of 1.01 bets and I'll be furious if they consider that as abuse and ban my account. what even is the point of having 1.01 odds on your games if you are going to ban them for using it? also, it doesn't matter if they use it to rank their account up, the gamblers that are doing that strategy basically risk losing their funds when doing it.

[mirakal]

You must be very lucky. I don’t know what’s the intention of Rollbit for giving you an unexpected bonus but good thing you’ve withdrawn it before banning of your account. So your point of this post is to make us aware that if there’s unexpected bonuses or rewards that enter into our account, at least we should be ready for its consequences. But I don’t see it from your post. It seems like they have an error sending it or whatsoever. At least if you bet it all in and then you lose, you have nothing to regret since it was never your money in the first place.

[hopenotlate]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse.

Honestly , if it was the reason I see an abuse from the Casino not frmo the player : they should state clearly what an abuse is, not saying afterwards that something the player was allowed to do then reveals to be an abuse and used as a reason not to pay the winnings.

[piebeyb]

You must be very lucky. I don’t know what’s the intention of Rollbit for giving you an unexpected bonus but good thing you’ve withdrawn it before banning of your account. So your point of this post is to make us aware that if there’s unexpected bonuses or rewards that enter into our account, at least we should be ready for its consequences. But I don’t see it from your post. It seems like they have an error sending it or whatsoever. At least if you bet it all in and then you lose, you have nothing to regret since it was never your money in the first place.

He's a great gambler, meaning he can take advantage of the bonuses he gets. Sometimes no gambler is lucky when he gets free money and wins a lot, instead he loses his bet and runs out of money, but OP seems to be lucky and can make good use of the money so the gambling he does always wins. so the casino banned it and said there was abuse.

I also don't think there is a prohibition like that, but the OP is smart enough to withdraw the money quickly so it doesn't hurt too much to lose money there even though it comes from free money, I think this can also be used as a lesson for other gambler friends to take advantage of any situation when get free money bet it all when you win withdraw money and go enjoy that money