Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky

[fritvalg]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, let me first of all state that you are very lucky, I mean who wouldn't want such a bonus?, Rollbits giving you a total of 14k in bonus, how were they expecting to get a return from that money?, were they expecting you to play recklessly since its free money, then loss it all, then you deposit your own which you probably would play recklessly with as well and lose?..

Anyways, good thing that you were knowledgeable enough to make good use of the opportunity to make good money for yourself, gamblers mustn't always be the ones to lose to the casinos all the time, some time, the casinos should also lose to the gamblers, it is commonly said in my place that Dog's play is, if one fall for the other, the other will also fall for the one..

I would have suggested you continue to reach out to their customer care to try to find out what actually is the reason they banned your account, I mean, like what you did wrong to make them believe you were abusing their system, but then, you don't seem like you are still interested in playing on Rollbits, and good thing for you that you already withdrew all your money in the account before this issue came up, else, you probably would have lost it all.

This is another good reason gambler should never leave any reasonable amount of money on their casino account, no matter the casino , it is very risky, for aside hacks and theft, one never can tell the day the casino will wake up and come up with an issue just like this..

Anyways, happy for you though.

[Coin_trader]

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

This is indeed an abused if you cash out huge amount of money from their promotion using this strategy. Not totally an abused such as cheating but rather an abused to their promotion for using a safe bet to complete which they didn’t anticipate as loop hole to claim their prize in sure manner.

It’s like when you find a bug on a software and you didn’t report. This is the reason for banning you because you already earned a lot from their bonus without risking any of your money. It’s their fault for counting wager from low odds bet but they have the right to ban your abusing the promotion. This is the reason why you still manage to withdraw because they are not aware on your method.

You already got profit saw I don’t see the need to create this thread? You are hurt that you can’t do the same trick to earn profit because casino ain’t charity. They will surely ban the user who’s continuously cashing out without risking money in the casino.

[Johnyz]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

You’re one of the lucky gambler to received such bonuses, maybe there’s a terms for that and you just have to know it. Rollbit will surely communicate it with you as they have an active support. Mind to share some proof here? Because most if your post are about a fake/scam site specifically about gambling sites.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

As far as I remember I saw some discussion around this 1.01 odd bets. They have it but when someone use it then they think it is being abused. If something is giving so much trouble to the business then isn't it better to remove it?

Not totally an abused such as cheating but rather an abused to their promotion for using a safe bet to complete which they didn’t anticipate as loop hole to claim their prize in sure manner.

You are telling people to take risk intentionally? I don't know if that make even any sense. Either Rollbit is not aware [which I doubt] or they knowingly kept this so that they can selectively accuse people for abusing their system.

I really don't have a good picture about Rollbit so far.

[Coin_trader]

Not totally an abused such as cheating but rather an abused to their promotion for using a safe bet to complete which they didn’t anticipate as loop hole to claim their prize in sure manner.

You are telling people to take risk intentionally? I don't know if that make even any sense. Either Rollbit is not aware [which I doubt] or they knowingly kept this so that they can selectively accuse people for abusing their system.

I really don't have a good picture about Rollbit so far.

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

[Shishir99]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

Even though it's a business, casinos know that people will use every possible way in their favor. If casinos do not like users to place bets on low odds, they should not allow them to place bets there. Casinos know players will do that and they keep it so they can accuse players later if they make a huge profit from it. Casinos also use every possible options to deny user withdrawals when they win big.

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

[fritvalg]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

You’re one of the lucky gambler to received such bonuses, maybe there’s a terms for that and you just have to know it. Rollbit will surely communicate it with you as they have an active support. Mind to share some proof here? Because most if your post are about a fake/scam site specifically about gambling sites.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”. 
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.


People here needs to understand that the promotion was a sign up bonus, which i could have cashed out instantly since there was no strings attached.

To odds on a 1.01 bet is not abusive at all, and it maybe happend like 10-20 times out of a thousand bets. Its normal for people who wants to climb the ranks to bet like that. I do that on Stake as well, and thats totally ok. Its not unusal that people also lose on odds 1.01, that happend to me as well.   Like Chelsea is up 3-1 in 80 minute, you place a odds 1.01 and the other team scores 2 goals the next 10 minutes.. It happends often!

Its like betting on Crash and cash it out on 1.01, is that abusive as well? People needs to understand that such bets is ok! You can climb the ranks faster but you lose big money when it fails. Its normal and totally ok.

I dont intend to speak fore to them.. Im fine with that being closed for good when they ban people without explanation, and i leave with good profit. I just want to make people aware that they can’t trust them at all.. Getting banned without knowing the reason is crazy and i wish for nobody to have balance in there while this happend.

Also remember that Rollbit is non transparent at all. No names on owners, all support/admins uses nicknames and they decide the communication.. if they dont want to discuss with you, they stop answeing. Thats how they do.

[Eureka_07]

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I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

I am confident that this method is completely safe, especially if you're aiming to gain the experience required to level up your account. You can strategically place small bets, minimizing the risk of losing significantly. The advantage for the player is that they can make progress towards leveling up with minimal risk. However, it's important to note that this approach could be considered an abuse of the promotion in question, from a technical standpoint.

OP, I am curious hoe ChatGPT "helped" you with this.

[Coin_trader]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

Even though it's a business, casinos know that people will use every possible way in their favor. If casinos do not like users to place bets on low odds, they should not allow them to place bets there. Casinos know players will do that and they keep it so they can accuse players later if they make a huge profit from it. Casinos also use every possible options to deny user withdrawals when they win big.

If you are really following my post here, I’m not justifying the casino method is fair but explaining how the OP get banned after claiming the reward. If you are a casino owner, Are you happy that someone taking advantage to your promotion by playing safe and not actually normally gambling. It’s clearly taking advantage on the promotion.

The OP here is accusing casino as scam for banning him after successfully clearing a promotion reward. He is not a scam victim instead he wants to get some more. The casino action is more on limiting players that is not profitable to them. This is different story if the OP didn’t withdraw his profit.

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

We are not talking here the 100% guarantee but the way you place bet just to claim the promotion reward. As a business owner. Are you happy that someone placing that kind of bet which he will not normally do without any promotion involved? This is why I said above if you read it that promotion is not intended that way. It’s an extra reward for your normal bets.


Maybe everyone forget here the premise of this thread. The OP got ban after clearing the promotion and withdrawn his balance. I’m just telling that it’s the way of the casino to limit user like OP that is not profitable to them by doing strategy to abused promotion. I’m not justifying the promotion rules or the way it can be claim. I’m giving only an insight on why the OP get banned.

[Gozie51]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

I wonder why OP would bother contacting support for his ban account because he has already profitted from the casino in question and I doubt if they are ever going to unban that account because they are going to see him as a scammer as he beat their promotion. If it were off line, he probably would be visited by the casino because he either took advantage of the loop hole on the casino. Although, it is the casino who have allowed themselves the laspes as they didn't realize early enough on what was happening.

The Op is very lucky and I don't understand what he is asking from the casino or he is encouraging other accounts to go through the way he went, I'm sure the casino will be on the look out for such violation.

[fritvalg]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

I wonder why OP would bother contacting support for his ban account because he has already profitted from the casino in question and I doubt if they are ever going to unban that account because they are going to see him as a scammer as he beat their promotion. If it were off line, he probably would be visited by the casino because he either took advantage of the loop hole on the casino. Although, it is the casino who have allowed themselves the laspes as they didn't realize early enough on what was happening.

The Op is very lucky and I don't understand what he is asking from the casino or he is encouraging other accounts to go through the way he went, I'm sure the casino will be on the look out for such violation.

I am asking them why i can’t login.. Thats it? I dont go into a discussion about it.

People here talk to much about the promotion. I got those 6k like 8-9 months ago, and cashed them out the same day. Did spend the same money on daily/Weekly deposits where i also won very big.

Stop talking about that promotion. I only mentionened it to make people understand i was a winning player since they never got any of my “own” money. All deposits made from me is from cashouts made from that account.

I just believe they look at the ROI and saw they lost too much on me and then came up with such excuse. I just want to warn others who might be in profit to take your money out, and only deposit money you wont cry about if they confiscate. Rollbit is not transparent, and they can always close your account without letting you know why.

[Eternad]

I wonder why OP would bother contacting support for his ban account because he has already profitted from the casino in question and I doubt if they are ever going to unban that account because they are going to see him as a scammer as he beat their promotion. If it were off line, he probably would be visited by the casino because he either took advantage of the loop hole on the casino. Although, it is the casino who have allowed themselves the laspes as they didn't realize early enough on what was happening.

This wrong interpretation on the OP case. He doesn’t cheat at all by completing the promotion because he follow the rules and just beat the casino with their own rules. He might be tagged as user that is restricted to join the promotion instead of being scammer because he doesn’t commit any violation against the ToS.

I just believe they look at the ROI and saw they lost too much on me and then came up with such excuse. I just want to warn others who might be in profit to take your money out, and only deposit money you wont cry about if they confiscate. Rollbit is not transparent, and they can always close your account without letting you know why.

Just move on, we all knew that casino doesn't want players to be in constant profit. You are already lucky to withdraw your profit. Casino doesn't scam you any amount. What's the sense of giving warning to others if the casino doesn't owe you.

I believe you should move this on scam accusation board since this about Rollbit reputation inquiry.

[qwertyup23]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

This is interesting- I guess gambling casinos have their own pool of data where they can observe and see users who create on their website. Since they have acquired your personal information and they even awarded you with a bonus, then I guess it is a win for you. Good thing you have withdrawn your funds before they have banned you from their website.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

Have you tried reaching out with their customer support service? With Rollbit being one of the popular gambling websites, they can provide you with an explanation with their CS on this forum. Try reaching out so they can clearly explain on why they banned you for "abuse."

[cabron]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

I'm wondering how you relate this where the casino got your info from Stake. Did stake also locked your account and now its rollbit doing the same thing?  IF this is the case then you really have done the same abuse.

[Gozie51]

I just believe they look at the ROI and saw they lost too much on me and then came up with such excuse. I just want to warn others who might be in profit to take your money out, and only deposit money you wont cry about if they confiscate. Rollbit is not transparent, and they can always close your account without letting you know why.

I see your point there after all. Yeah casinos or any other business venture don't relish the idea of you having profit over them and you have shown such experience and dexterity to keep winning and that probably the reason they want to let you go. You can just move on since you made profit from them and all deposit you made were from your winnings you had from them.

The best part is that you were able to withdraw what profit you got before they decided to shut you out. It is a lesson to be wise not to leave huge money in casino wallet or exchange because you don't have total control of the funds there.

[fritvalg]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

I'm wondering how you relate this where the casino got your info from Stake. Did stake also locked your account and now its rollbit doing the same thing?  IF this is the case then you really have done the same abuse.

No, at Stake my VIP manager told me about betting on 1.01 since it would make me rank even faster. I asked him for advices, and Thats what He came up with.

Rollbit once started to send out bonus promotions to several stake users. I think they bought a hacked e-mail list for all stake users. Some got 100€ and some like me got 6k. You can see many users were contacted here:

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/69364-email-from-diffrente-casino-anyone-else-got-it/#comment-1482952

I work in the affiliate business and often gets contacted by shady people asking if we want to buy list of data for players - like usernames, e-mails, vip status and loss/winnings. Of course i say no to such things, but Rollbit seems to have taken the chance.

[KiaKia]

Your luck is on a whole new level mate, That's if this information you are passing is genuine, if I am the owner of Rollbit online casino I will ban you myself  

It's not doubt that casinos are making money through customers losses and you my friend are making much money from them, there must be something about you that scared the hell out of them, so don't take it too serious that you got banned, it happens.

You should find another top-notch online casino, the list still goes on and on, what about Roobet or Coinomize? You are welcome everywhere else, if Rollbit is some new online casino you won't be able to withdraw that money, they will hold it and make you look like something is wrong with you, probably telling you that you cheated the system and you can kiss your money goodbye.

Be happy with your winnings and enjoy, you are one hell of a lucky bastard, sorry to say, as not many people are this luck as you are, Be proud.

[arallmuus]

Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

This is probably not the first time that I've seen someone with this issue.

It seems Rollbit will restrict any account that attempt to do this type of bet. Wagering on their sportsbook will be counted as 3x of your wager so its pretty easy to level up your account with this type of 1.01 bet. I cant really find any fine print regarding this but I guess they dont really want to scare people around by putting that in their T&C and such

Considering that Rollbit gives alot of bonuses, I'd say they are losing pretty deep there if alot of people start doing this therefore they will nuke anyone that tried this

[yahoo62278]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

I'm wondering how you relate this where the casino got your info from Stake. Did stake also locked your account and now its rollbit doing the same thing?  IF this is the case then you really have done the same abuse.

I personally do not see it as abuse at all. If they do not want players placing those types of bets, then they shouldn't offer them. A person can just as easily lose that bet, so they can ask for a refund if it loses? Obviously a casino is not going to refund your bet if you lose, but saying a player is abusing them for betting x1.01 is kinda crazy IMO. They should either remove those bets or disallow them to count towards promotions. Solves the issue.

[Odusko]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

I wonder why OP would bother contacting support for his ban account because he has already profitted from the casino in question and I doubt if they are ever going to unban that account because they are going to see him as a scammer as he beat their promotion. If it were off line, he probably would be visited by the casino because he either took advantage of the loop hole on the casino. Although, it is the casino who have allowed themselves the laspes as they didn't realize early enough on what was happening.

The Op is very lucky and I don't understand what he is asking from the casino or he is encouraging other accounts to go through the way he went, I'm sure the casino will be on the look out for such violation.

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

[Beparanf]

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

He already provide some speculation on he get that promotion offer on the introduction of his post. He assumed that Rollbit might have access to his Stake information for being high roller in there which is really possible since some casino has some connected networks for players casino information that's why they can detect fraud activities even it happened from different casino.

Casino doesn't violate any ToS to claim the bonus. I believe the reason for the ban is due to his successful completing the bonus due to his strategy.

[darkangel11]

Another bigger question to the ops is, why didn't he contact the casino when he received such unusual bonus from them, and from his explanation he receive such bonus twice and have managed to withdraw 50k-80k that is huge profits enough for the ops, and if he wanted to get any clear understanding on the terms and conditions on the bonuses if there be any then he should have first of all reached out to the support team of the casino to get the template for the terms and conditions of the bonuse before he started gambling with it.
So its still a win-win for the ops and I suggest he move on, but anyway, he already stated that the thread was meant to just warn others, who may receive such an offer from the casino.

Maybe it's not that they downloaded his betting history from Stake, like OP thinks, but he received the bonus by mistake and gambled with it, without reporting it as a bug. Rollbit saw their mistake and saw player as untrustworthy. Instead of making things clear to the player they banned him. It's strange behavior, I agree, but I don't get how a casino would know how much a player has wagered on another sites and give that player freebies just for being a high roller somewhere else.

[BitcoinPanther]

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

This is indeed an abused if you cash out huge amount of money from their promotion using this strategy. Not totally an abused such as cheating but rather an abused to their promotion for using a safe bet to complete which they didn’t anticipate as loop hole to claim their prize in sure manner.

I am puzzled why is this abuse when the site itself is surely aware of it thus they offered this odds to their player.  I wonder if a player should have asked the support for confirmation before betting this kind of odds to keep the account safe.

It’s like when you find a bug on a software and you didn’t report. This is the reason for banning you because you already earned a lot from their bonus without risking any of your money. It’s their fault for counting wager from low odds bet but they have the right to ban your abusing the promotion. This is the reason why you still manage to withdraw because they are not aware on your method.

Can you explain why this is abusing the promotion?  Does winning from freebies considers an abuse now?  The way I look at it, it is the casinos fault and the player is just playing along the odds offered by the casino.  The casino should not offered the odds if it is not allowed to bet on. Probably @OP had done something that triggers the casino fraud security system aside from these low odds bet.

You already got profit saw I don’t see the need to create this thread? You are hurt that you can’t do the same trick to earn profit because casino ain’t charity. They will surely ban the user who’s continuously cashing out without risking money in the casino.

The casino should have not offered the bonuses if they can't afford to pay player that accept their generous offer if they continuously winning using the bonus amount.

[Coin_trader]

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Read my following post after that to have an overview on what I really mean.

This will help you to get what's my point here:

Maybe everyone forget here the premise of this thread. The OP got ban after clearing the promotion and withdrawn his balance. I’m just telling that it’s the way of the casino to limit user like OP that is not profitable to them by doing strategy to abused promotion. I’m not justifying the promotion rules or the way it can be claim. I’m giving only an insight on why the OP get banned.

My word abused here is for the casino reasoning on banning him out and not the literal abuse for player PoV since he doesn't violate any ToS. Please remember that he was ban after he withdraw his bonus profit. Simply the OP find a way to claim promotion without taking normal risk on gambling. It's an abuse to the casino promotion as a business owner PoV because the player is just playing minimal risk just to claim the bonus. I'm not telling that player should take risk intentionally but that's what the casino is thinking as reason for the ban.

My last reply on this thread.



This reply by @arallmuus is the simplest form of what I'm referring.

It seems Rollbit will restrict any account that attempt to do this type of bet. Wagering on their sportsbook will be counted as 3x of your wager so its pretty easy to level up your account with this type of 1.01 bet. I cant really find any fine print regarding this but I guess they dont really want to scare people around by putting that in their T&C and such

Considering that Rollbit gives alot of bonuses, I'd say they are losing pretty deep there if alot of people start doing this therefore they will nuke anyone that tried this

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

To be honest it does not make sense. You give me an option then when I use it you tell me I abused it, it is not allowed. Is it a joke?
If that happen to me then I will be mad and will not think a second to create a flag against the casino.

Rollbit is very aware of it as far as I can remember now. In a thread they talked about it as well.

Obviously Casino is a business not a charity but that does not give them license to do whatever they want. Either remove the odd which are 99.99999% easy to win or give the winning without making an excuse. Would they refund if such a bet was lost? No.

[crwth]

Having a high tier on the casinos definitely enable you to become a recipient of the bonuses that you have and that 6k for free is definitely something to be happy about and not to be scoffed at. You enabling it to make it into a 50-80k in the past year is outstanding. It's nothing to be ashamed about. Like wow. 

I'm quite of the edge with you with the Rollbit thing because you were able to cash out for a year and then with the sudden ban, there might be something curious with your account that made them do that.

Maybe you are just winning too much lol.

[Wind_FURY]

You mean Rollbit created an account for you? Or you already have one before receiving your first Bonus?
I’m sure Rollbit have a valid reason of restricting your account, are you able to contact the support and clarify this issue?

You’re one of the lucky gambler to received such bonuses, maybe there’s a terms for that and you just have to know it. Rollbit will surely communicate it with you as they have an active support. Mind to share some proof here? Because most if your post are about a fake/scam site specifically about gambling sites.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”.  
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.


People here needs to understand that the promotion was a sign up bonus, which i could have cashed out instantly since there was no strings attached.

To odds on a 1.01 bet is not abusive at all, and it maybe happend like 10-20 times out of a thousand bets. Its normal for people who wants to climb the ranks to bet like that. I do that on Stake as well, and thats totally ok. Its not unusal that people also lose on odds 1.01, that happend to me as well.   Like Chelsea is up 3-1 in 80 minute, you place a odds 1.01 and the other team scores 2 goals the next 10 minutes.. It happends often!

Its like betting on Crash and cash it out on 1.01, is that abusive as well? People needs to understand that such bets is ok! You can climb the ranks faster but you lose big money when it fails. Its normal and totally ok.

I dont intend to speak fore to them.. Im fine with that being closed for good when they ban people without explanation, and i leave with good profit. I just want to make people aware that they can’t trust them at all.. Getting banned without knowing the reason is crazy and i wish for nobody to have balance in there while this happend.

Also remember that Rollbit is non transparent at all. No names on owners, all support/admins uses nicknames and they decide the communication.. if they dont want to discuss with you, they stop answeing. Thats how they do.

It's probably "technically not abusive", but it could be that from the casino's viewpoint? Plus like you said in your OP, you have withdrawn $50,000 - $80,000 in the past year and possibly another $50,000 - $80,000 more every year for the NEXT FEW years, do you really believe the site will just allow you to do that to them? Right or wrong from a user's point of view, it was a business decision to lock your account and kick you out, and it should be an expected one in my opinion. If you wanted to have a consistent stream of revenue from doing that, then you should have made other "moves" that makes you look like a pleb-gambler.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Nice story.

Glad you got lucky and they paid you.
I also got the same promotion email and since I was platinum 3 at the time I got 100$ if I remember correctly.

Contrary to you they wanted me to deposit before being eligible to withdraw, and they wanted full KYC.
Since I don't trust this site at all with my documents I refused to do KYC and moved on with my life, without the free money.

Ever since I am trying to warn about rollbit. A site that uses stolen data of a competitor for self promotion cannot be trusted in my eyes.

[goaldigger]

Having a high tier on the casinos definitely enable you to become a recipient of the bonuses that you have and that 6k for free is definitely something to be happy about and not to be scoffed at. You enabling it to make it into a 50-80k in the past year is outstanding. It's nothing to be ashamed about. Like wow. 

I'm quite of the edge with you with the Rollbit thing because you were able to cash out for a year and then with the sudden ban, there might be something curious with your account that made them do that.

Maybe you are just winning too much lol.

Still not a reason though to ban the account not unless the account made something suspicious aside from always winning.
Getting that free money is still a good one, and luck continues until he made a lot of profit from it, the site should still inform why though.
Being a high tier gambler means a lot, Rollbit site probably expect more from this player but the result is not in favor to them, hard to know though.

[Rollbit Razer]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

[bitbollo]

do we have all the details of the story? obviously not.
we only hear one part without any proof of what was said.

why post this information, and exactly, what should we look out for? to a casino that applies its TOS?

Anyway thanks for this warning. the day I will reach a diamond level on stake... I'll know what to do!

[goaldigger]

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

Check this one, maybe you have your records for this or else OP is just bluffing here and just trying to ruin the reputation of the site.
I hope we also get the updates here, so we can know if OP is telling the truth or not.
This is your best chance now OP, better to start communicating with them, good luck for this one.

Hmm not sure if you are serious? “Rollbit will surely colmunicate with you”.  
If they did that, i would have had a reason for the ban.
https://ibb.co/q0g78BX

[fritvalg]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

Hi!
Thanks for looking into this.

I was thinking, based on your replies to other issues regarding “sportsbook abuse”, could we then try something new to show some transparancy and make users make their own opinions about whats going on?

What you clarify exactly what i did wrong? Post the bets you think were abusive.. cause the more i think about it, the more Im sure i actually placed 1.1 odds bets rather than 1.01..

I have seen you only just post “yes 100% sportsbook abuse” .. i would like it detailed exactly what happend and why. Could we do that?

[Shishir99]

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

We are not talking here the 100% guarantee but the way you place bet just to claim the promotion reward. As a business owner. Are you happy that someone placing that kind of bet which he will not normally do without any promotion involved? This is why I said above if you read it that promotion is not intended that way. It’s an extra reward for your normal bets.

I understand your point. It's true that no casinos want their players take advantage of bonuses. It's not profitable for their business at all. But, what I am saying is, they have option to limit these things. They are aware of such behavior as they are the owner and they are the first one to notice the abuse. I believe you have played in some casinos where your wager does not count as qualified wager if you place bets in low odds. For example, In some casinos, you cannot use your free bet ticket on below 1.50 odds. Your wager won't count from table games. Your wager won't count from 99% win chance dice bets. Actually you can limit these things if you want as casino owner. But, why did you kept it open for users?

[fritvalg]

Why do you play in a casino if you don’t want to take a risk?

This is why I said that rollbit might not aware on this kind of strategy to safely clear their protion with minimal risk involve and later on ban him when they detected.

I have a counter question. Placing bets on 1.01 odds does not guarantee that this is 100% safe. Why not take minimum risks when I can take it? The reward for the minimum risk is tiny as well. Why would I take risk when there are other options. If you don't give me other options, I have to take risk. I guess rollbit aware of it because there was another case in this forum. If it's a common pattern, then it's known by the casino already.

We are not talking here the 100% guarantee but the way you place bet just to claim the promotion reward. As a business owner. Are you happy that someone placing that kind of bet which he will not normally do without any promotion involved? This is why I said above if you read it that promotion is not intended that way. It’s an extra reward for your normal bets.

I understand your point. It's true that no casinos want their players take advantage of bonuses. It's not profitable for their business at all. But, what I am saying is, they have option to limit these things. They are aware of such behavior as they are the owner and they are the first one to notice the abuse. I believe you have played in some casinos where your wager does not count as qualified wager if you place bets in low odds. For example, In some casinos, you cannot use your free bet ticket on below 1.50 odds. Your wager won't count from table games. Your wager won't count from 99% win chance dice bets. Actually you can limit these things if you want as casino owner. But, why did you kept it open for users?

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

[acroman08]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

"If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse", That is a scary thing to say. I've done a lot of 1.01 bets and I'll be furious if they consider that as abuse and ban my account. what even is the point of having 1.01 odds on your games if you are going to ban them for using it? also, it doesn't matter if they use it to rank their account up, the gamblers that are doing that strategy basically risk losing their funds when doing it.

[mirakal]

You must be very lucky. I don’t know what’s the intention of Rollbit for giving you an unexpected bonus but good thing you’ve withdrawn it before banning of your account. So your point of this post is to make us aware that if there’s unexpected bonuses or rewards that enter into our account, at least we should be ready for its consequences. But I don’t see it from your post. It seems like they have an error sending it or whatsoever. At least if you bet it all in and then you lose, you have nothing to regret since it was never your money in the first place.

[hopenotlate]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse.

Honestly , if it was the reason I see an abuse from the Casino not frmo the player : they should state clearly what an abuse is, not saying afterwards that something the player was allowed to do then reveals to be an abuse and used as a reason not to pay the winnings.

[piebeyb]

You must be very lucky. I don’t know what’s the intention of Rollbit for giving you an unexpected bonus but good thing you’ve withdrawn it before banning of your account. So your point of this post is to make us aware that if there’s unexpected bonuses or rewards that enter into our account, at least we should be ready for its consequences. But I don’t see it from your post. It seems like they have an error sending it or whatsoever. At least if you bet it all in and then you lose, you have nothing to regret since it was never your money in the first place.

He's a great gambler, meaning he can take advantage of the bonuses he gets. Sometimes no gambler is lucky when he gets free money and wins a lot, instead he loses his bet and runs out of money, but OP seems to be lucky and can make good use of the money so the gambling he does always wins. so the casino banned it and said there was abuse.

I also don't think there is a prohibition like that, but the OP is smart enough to withdraw the money quickly so it doesn't hurt too much to lose money there even though it comes from free money, I think this can also be used as a lesson for other gambler friends to take advantage of any situation when get free money bet it all when you win withdraw money and go enjoy that money  

[benalexis12]

First of all, according to your story, before your Rollbit account was closed, you were able to withdraw your balance from their wallet, correct? Then what is not clear to me is that you received $6,000. Is it $6000 in dollars or 6000 in free spins? And it looks like you're a high-level Diamond player, doesn't it? And the amount of money you released using the Rollbit platform last year was also large, between 50k and 80k.Maybe it can be said that you are still lucky because you were also able to withdraw a large amount from the Rollbit platform before they blocked your account. But your account is also a waste because you are also a diamond player level in Rollbit. Maybe you should try to follow up to find out the reason why your account is disabled.

[Wind_FURY]

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

[Haunebu]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

[Shishir99]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

This is the case where Rollbit released the fund and blocked his account. We have seen another case where the user was banned with a couple of thousands of dollars for the same generic "sportsbook abuse". Later a guy from this forum created a thread in reputation board and accused the campaign manager for misusing his forum reputation.

I did not participated in those drama but I guess the case is still open in scam accusation board. My one and simple suggestions to casinos, if you do not allow something, block it. If one user abuse it, you already know how it was abused, why did you keep it open?

[Coin_trader]

Typically, casino promotion with wagering requirements doesn’t count some bet with low house edge or in his case 1.01 because this is purely not gambling but rather just a bet to claim reward which is not the way promotion was intended. Promotion is to make user engage on gambling by claiming the reward. Casino is a business after all.

To be honest it does not make sense. You give me an option then when I use it you tell me I abused it, it is not allowed. Is it a joke?
If that happen to me then I will be mad and will not think a second to create a flag against the casino.

Rollbit is very aware of it as far as I can remember now. In a thread they talked about it as well.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused. My previous comment is only illustrating what the casino think for a player that doing this kind of strategy since the OP is asking on reason why he got ban. The casino clearly doesn’t stated this rule specifically that’s why this user manage to withdraw his profit meaning his method doesn’t violate the ToS. But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

My one and simple suggestions to casinos, if you do not allow something, block it. If one user abuse it, you already know how it was abused, why did you keep it open?

Because adding more stricter rule will not be appetizing to players. Blackjack.fun add this kind of rules too on their promotion and I personally stop participating due to too much restrictions.

Maybe only few players do this. I guess?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused.

Sorry if you feel that way. With due respect your and my categorizing of looking it as abuse or not does not change anything to be honest.

[goldkingcoiner]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

It sounds like you may have done something which goes against the terms of service but lucky for you, you took out your money from that platform, into your own, personal wallet. Good job! I would not even go as far as to call that luck, but rather a smart decision not to hold crypto on a third party wallet. You would have definitely lost your money if you did.

Same goes for every wallet which is not your own(like exchange wallets). Not your keys, not your wallet.

[Sandra_hakeem]

You went to it extremes to have been booking games with such odds...most especially for the fact that you were given a grant/starter-pack as you said - I feel it's not profitable to the casino and in general, downgrades the reasons for getting such huge starter packs...
Secondly, you went away with the funds - I understand anyone would wanna do the same (not me though) but, I think that's also a reason because anything that would have made you withdrawn all the funds at the time, wasn't something good at all.... You're not expecting to act  based on your own jurisdictions; they've got TS/C's remember??

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[boyptc]

There's always two sides of the story.

But if it they reason out that you have abused their promotion and system even if you didn't do so, there's really nothing you can do to defend that to them.

It's just like one way of eliminating those gamblers that are into their promotions and yet they're winning a lot and cashes out money without even depositing.

That's why they can change or alter their rules without prior notice and that's why you can't do such appeal when they've already placed a banner on your head.

[Magoo8]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

why did they give you 6k?

[Wexnident]

Won't really know anything unless Rollbit says their claim about what abuse you said, OP talking about the 1.01 thing is only his assumption, not really a guarantee that it's the cause (unless other users also provide the same reason, then maybe we can safely assume that). Seeing as Stake allows it though it may just vary from casino to casino, guess Rollbit is just that much stricter when it comes to stuff like that. OP not also depositing anything but winning a lot might've also been a factor tbf.

Kind of curious how you were rewarded though for being a Diamond stake member. Did they have something like that since before?

[Slow death]

I confess that I read it several times to understand where you were wrong, and I confess that I didn't understand, because let's see the following: the casino gave you 6000$, you didn't ask them for that money, you didn't steal that money, you didn't cheat the casino to get that money, you didn't cheat to get that money, it was the casino that put that money in your account, so up until now you haven't done anything wrong. Now let's talk about the betting part, who placed bets with odd values of 1.01? The answer is simple: it was the casino, do you work at the casino to set odds of 1.01? no. you don't work at the casino;

So where in their TOS does it say that placing bets with odds of 1.01 is prohibited? Where in their casino's tomos does it say that betting on games with odds of 1.01 is considered cheating? If their texts don't say anything about it, then betting on games with odds of 1.01 isn't cheating, it's not abuse. It is necessary for the casino to create clear betting rules when involving bonuses, if the casino believes that odds of 1.01 should not be part of the bonus requirements then it is enough to state in the tos that only games with odds above 1.50 will be valid to increase the level of accounts and bonus requirements, that the problem is resolved.

now to say that it is abuse when there is nothing in their TOS that says that it is abuse to bet on games with odds of 1.01, I think this is wrong, I believe that the casino needs to make it very clear in their TOS if they do not like betting on 1.01. I don't know how it is possible for a casino to offer $6000 without them saying why they are giving such an amount of money

[Coin_trader]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.
Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

It’s their way to restrict players that is unprofitable. Again, I'm not telling this as support to the casino because I'm a player too but it's their term. Their ToS stated this line on their ToS.

3.13. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to suspend a client account without prior notice.

ToS is available upon registration. We don't have a choice than to follow it so expect this kind of move to this casino. This is why reading the ToS will help everyone here to accept easily all the decision by the casino.

You are viewing my comment as if I’m the one that categorizing it as an abused.

Sorry if you feel that way. With due respect your and my categorizing of looking it as abuse or not does not change anything to be honest.

It's useless now to continue this discussion since we are already off-topic if you don't consider my post as answer to this thread because I made that post related to this thread topic and not to directly address your opinion since you are the one who quoted it. I'm giving the OP the possible reason for his ban.

[Porfirii]

Isn't that the usual policy in Las Vegas? I mean, suddenly certain player starts winning big amounts and, shortly after, he is invited to leave the casino and not come back.

IMO, betting with 1.01, although many of you see it as cheating, is not wrong; in fact, the probability long term is the same (you have to bet 100 times to double, and chances are that you lose everything in one of those bets).

On the other hand, using it as a way to easily wager and withdraw such big bonuses you got for free is not very honorable, but as a colleague said, this is something to be controlled on beforehand by the casino, and not really users fault. But then, back to the start of this post, the user should expect to be "invited to leave".

[noormcs5]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

First what is the role of ChatGPT in all this case ? You mean that Rollbit got to know that you are a diamond level player at stake.com, through ChatGPT ? I don't think that chatGPT has such information of the users within the platform.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

You first received 6K bonus and then you received more bonuses that amount to the total of 14K bonus in your rollbit account. You think that they were doing this bonus transfers to your account as they thought that you will start depositing also ? I don't think rollbit needs to do such acts.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

[Kakmakr]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

[fritvalg]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

Spot on

[Dave1]

I think they offered you the money, thinking that you are a high roller and a good target for making a good profit. I also assume that you used a similar tactic with your Stake account and that you reached Diamond as a result of that.... and not because you played Slots the whole day. 

In any way, well done .... most people would say that they deserved it.. for trying to pinch highrollers from other casinos. I do not blame them, because the competition for the gambling whales are tough. 

I would agree that competition is really tough across all gambling platforms, even in landbased casinos, whales are given special privilege because if he jumps in to join and move to their competition, it's done for them. I personally know a big whale here in my country that's why I can attest to the influence of this big whales and high rollers.

Not sure though as per OP how did one casino share or get his information though that's why he was offered the money as you described because in the other casinos that he mentioned perhaps he as a Diamond member already?

[fritvalg]

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I made placed 10-20 bets 1.01, +20 bets 1.1, and the rest is casino..

And guys try to understand the 6K bonus i got was upon sign up. i cashed out, and did spend it again in there afterwards where i won big on CASINO. The only promotion/bonus was the 6K with No strings attached, they promotion ended after i cashed the money out and they became mine. Afterwards only my own deposits (from the won money) were used and i didnt recieve any other promotion after this (from signup until now - 8-9 months period). The only promotions os the Weekly and monthly bonus which everybody gets - and they always suck at this casino..

I am mainly a casino player, dont get offered special bonuses except for the signup 6K bonus and that bonus ended the same day since i cashed out. The betting on 1.01 has taken place but we are talking about 3 times a week maybe but i still placed more bets on higher odds like min. 1.10

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And the CHATGPT thing is because i asked it to correct my english, so if the post sounds a bit too professional, Thats because of that :-)

[Haunebu]

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I disagree. Why do you think so many casinos limit or outright ban long-term punters? It's because they are a business and they cannot afford to keep them around which makes sense if you think about it.

There are very few gambling sites out there that actually allow long-term winners to continue playing(Pinnacle etc).

[Wind_FURY]

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I disagree. Why do you think so many casinos limit or outright ban long-term punters? It's because they are a business and they cannot afford to keep them around which makes sense if you think about it.

There are very few gambling sites out there that actually allow long-term winners to continue playing(Pinnacle etc).

They ban all long-term punters? If that was actually true, then all long-term BlackJack players who actually has an edge on the game would have been banned. It's because they are a business that they also need to protect their reputation too, and not be that "notorious" Casino known for banning long-term players who actually gamble.

I believe you should also try to look at the situation from the casino's point of view too. Because from their viewpoint, you're merely farming for the cashback/rakeback rewards and not actually using the site for real gambling. From the point of view of the business owner, you're a leech that's taking revenue out of the business, not someone who brings something into the business. What would you do if you had such a "customer"?

Makes sense. No casino/sportsbook likes long-term winners which is why they usually resort to this stuff to try and keep their business alive. Rollbit actually released all of his funds successfully before banning him which is the most important part.

Sites which confiscate funds and ban winners are basically scams and Rollbit is clearly not one of them.

I believe not. From a viewpoint of a business, I think casinos accept that there will always be a very small percentage of users who will be long-term winners. BUT as long as they don't "abuse" the service by taking advantage of the rakeback/cashback rewards program by betting exclusively on 99% implied winners, then they won't be banned from the service. All users are expected to play in the casino under the the casino's terms. You either actually play/gamble, or leave. You could also play a game where you could find your own edge, like BlackJack.

I made placed 10-20 bets 1.01, +20 bets 1.1, and the rest is casino..

OK, but that's still probably what caused the problem.

[NewCryptocasinos]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

[FatFork]

But as casino side, They view this as unprofitable and abused to their promotion that’s why they ban such user after withdrawing the funds. Not all user in the casino is doing this so they just banning someone that doing it instead of updating the ToS just for the sake of controlling minimal number of user that doing this thing.

Remember, that there’s no money loss here. The OP got his money including the reward. I wonder how can he be mad and accuse a casino scam after he got his 100% balance.

No money loss, is not the point to justify a wrong or a trap to use it as a bait for players to ban their account. I don't know if the OP is mad or not, how strong his feeling about it. But what I am saying is it's a good excuse for Rollbit to use this shady promo and banning many accounts.

I agree with this. And I'm not talking about this specific case because I can't know for sure if this is actually the reason that caused the player to be banned or if there is something else that we don't know about. But generally, if a casino allows betting at certain odds or certain methods to clear bonuses and meet wagering requirements, then they can't use that as an excuse to restrict players. This should be defined in the bonus terms, or even better, regulated by software on the platform itself so that the player cannot even use such methods accidentally. If a player has not broken any defined rules, then they have no basis for restricting him, regardless of his betting patterns. I'm just illustrating here, but if, for example, they have a x5 wagering requirement to clear the bonus amount, then they can't limit a player because they haven't wagered their amount 50 times. Likewise, if they haven't defined what odds are required, then they shouldn't limit the player just because he bet 1.01x, not 1.5x or 2x. Such practices of restricting players without a valid reason are considered discriminatory and are even illegal in some jurisdictions, regardless of what is stated in their Terms of Service.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

*Snip

Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

Sorry but how is sending out an unexpected bonuses to a customer very bad , and goes against responsible gambling?

I am curious to know why you think this way, it was a bonus after all , and according to op, he did all his gambling with this bonus, which means he never deposited a dime of his money on the casino, so what exactly do you refer to; to be bad and irresponsible gambling?, is it the bonuses Rollbit gave to op? Or is it the way Op managed or used the bonus ? Was he supposed to deposit his own money when he clearly have more than enough money to play with for free ?..

[Mr.right85]

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

Such low odds, that’s something!
I think the idea for you was, trying to transfer the bonuses into wins so you could withdraw them as bonuses aren’t readily withdraw able. They somehow get to understand this and has to act in a way to stop this.

That’s my understanding to the situation and I can’t say if they are right or wrong should that be the case. The emphases as I see it now isn’t in the 1.01 odd bets but is in the act being perpetuated which is possibly a loophole within there gambling system and you wouldn’t expect them not to tighten loosed ends.

Perhaps a better means to do that would have been stating an odd limit or number of accumulated games there bonuses systems could allow. Some other gambling sites limit it to certain games but then, you can’t say you were exactly cheated with you not having to deposit anything.
You could as well view it as a credit to test there site bonus, lol!

[FatFork]

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Thanks for your story. I didn't know they send out "unexpected bonuses"
I think that is very bad and goes against responsible gambling.

Sorry but how is sending out an unexpected bonuses to a customer very bad , and goes against responsible gambling?

Good point! I'm not quite sure if his problem lies with the "unexpected" or the "bonus"?! Personally, considering we're in the gambling section, I'd say the "unexpected bonus" sounds way more enticing than the expected one! 

[Webetcoins]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

First what is the role of ChatGPT in all this case ? You mean that Rollbit got to know that you are a diamond level player at stake.com, through ChatGPT ? I don't think that chatGPT has such information of the users within the platform.

He probably meant that ChatGPT helped him write the message that he is posting here and not that it helped the casino in knowing he was a diamond player at Stake because the data that ChatGPT or any AI might collect from you won't be shared with any other users, so there is no way for them to get this information from ChatGPT. So, he possibly just use ChatGPT to help him write this messages since I believe English is not OP's first language.

Getting back to the topic, what messed up was that OP wasn't making any deposits and was playing it very safe by placing bets with very low odds only to win and increase his account level through the wagering he was doing so that he can get level bonus and the casino probably didn't like that.

[CryptSafe]

What is the point making deposit when OP was given enough bonus to start with. I am beginning to see the reasons why casinos ban accounts claiming they cheated meanwhile they are most times  set them up to do their biding but when the reverse is the case, they take unnecessary actions against their clients with a claim of them cheating the system. I think his was the same strategy rollbit wanted t use on OP but OP was very lucky with his or her game winning and claiming his wins and possibly rollbit was expecting OP to lose so they could get deposit from OP then begin with their losing gimmicks to run OP but it seems luck ran against them and OP was clever enough to withdraw wins before they banned OP.

My question now is this, If the reverse were to be the case, would rollbit casino ban OP account for recording losses? So they were making loss and were quick to ban OP immediately without any reasons to their actions.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

It sounds like you may have done something which goes against the terms of service but lucky for you, you took out your money from that platform, into your own, personal wallet. Good job! I would not even go as far as to call that luck, but rather a smart decision not to hold crypto on a third party wallet. You would have definitely lost your money if you did.

Same goes for every wallet which is not your own(like exchange wallets). Not your keys, not your wallet.

Well, the truth is, these types of things are what we can normally think that yes, there is a gross violation of the Tos, but it is something strange, I don't really understand what the serious mistake you made was, so in this order of ideas things are I don't think they're bad, it's strange that everything has been like that, generally, whenever a player gets banned they do things like they can't withdraw the money, but Rollbit is a casino that is very reliable, that has many features Well, in fact it is in an ancient cryptocurrency market, where it has its own NFT, and its RLB tokens, it seems to me that it is a casino that is growing little by little, but at great speed, this is something that I like, but at the same time At the same time I don't understand why what happened to him or that he violated the rules is strange, and also the withdrawal that was made was large and the fact that they didn't subject him to a review seemed quite strange to me, there was a lack of security on the part of of the casino team, because the truth is you did not take advantage of any vulnerability.

So you could say that things are being combined so that they are different types of things with casinos, it is always good to clarify where the rules were violated so that at least the other players do not fall into that, sometimes rules can be broken without knowing, and that it is in the Tos, but sometimes we are too lazy to read the Tos, we accept it just like that, just with the desire to play and continue playing big, sometimes this type of Fever makes us make mistakes and really read so much, because it is something that not everyone does, only the adrenaline of the game will once and for all take over from us to give that acceptance to the Tos, in the moment that it is accepted we are in the hands of the ones who Casnio has there, they are their rules, they are the ones that I have complied with, so it is difficult to know what they based on to ban you, could it just be because of the large withdrawal that was made? Or wanting it would be what was not allowed, but it is very strange that you have gotten away with all this.

[JustBet]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

[DoublerHunter]

~snip~

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

[ryzaadit]

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Because, to avoid multi-account claiming the abused (most of casino, somtime required user to at least one active deposit).
Anyway, I agree with @OP 1.01 bet on Crash is not really abusive because we can get multiple time 0/1.00 bust on crash. IMO, they should think about the counted waggering while the waggering are only counted from the money user win/lose not from the waggering amount.

Example
- Bet with 1.10 ODDS
- I bet 1000$
- Win Estimation: 1100$
- Waggering Counted (Win = 100$ & Lose = 1000$).

[Nrcewker]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake? Moreover I am not getting the motive behind this post, you are warning the users to not play because they banned your 0 balance account for no reason? If you don’t provide any proofs of what you are saying then no one will believe you mate.

[bettercrypto]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

You know, if I compare what you experienced with the previous ones who had issues with the casino that they gambled on, you are the luckiest of them because before your account was transferred, you had the opportunity to release most of your funds from the casino platform in honesty.

Think about how much money you have taken out compared to other complainants who have not been able to recover or withdraw their funds that were left in their account on the casino platform. Take note that their account has not been cashed even though it is still on hold, which is still possible they can recover, but most of them have not recovered their account and fund balance in the wallet of the casino where they play.

[Out of mind]

I think you want to take your account to a higher position with different strategies. The tactics you have used may have abused the rules of Rollbit for which you have been banned from there. But if you minimize your risk and bet, a casino platform will never ban your account, maybe you have banned your account due to various abuses. And did you mention that you never deposited much money there but got money there by referral with various bonuses and gambled with them. There may be many other types of gambling abuses that Rollbit doesn't like at all and therefore bans.

[Outhue]

~snip~

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

[FatFork]

~snip~

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

Even if they're Web3 casinos, they're not completely decentralized. They still require a website, software, a centralized database on servers, a domain, and a bunch of other centralized stuff that are under regulatory control. They might be able to fly under the radar for a limited time, but eventually, their activities are likely to catch the attention of authorities or regulatory bodies.

[acroman08]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake?

OP believes that Rollbit bought "hacked email list of all stake.com users", that is why Rollbit were able to send the promotion bonus to the OP and other Stake.com users.

this is a thread from stake.com forum where they talk about suddenly getting emails from different gambling site.

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/69364-email-from-diffrente-casino-anyone-else-got-it/#comment-1482952

Moreover I am not getting the motive behind this post, you are warning the users to not play because they banned your 0 balance account for no reason? If you don’t provide any proofs of what you are saying then no one will believe you mate.

The OP was accused of "abuse" that's why he was banned. Rollbit never elaborated on the screenshot OP shared. but OP believes that he was banned for betting on 1.01 odds to quickly rank up his account on the gambling site.

[JustBet]

~snip~

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

^ How many web3 gambling casinos are out there now?
That is definitely right, a KYCed casino should left behind on this web3 casino. They doing trap promotion that seems a bait to their customer from banning and saying goodbye to their money once it has a balance. It is a shame that the casino has had many complaints recently.
Has your Justbet promoted it here?

If you mean the ones that are fully decentralized only a few. JustBet launched a few months ago and doing a great job so far. We don't have sign-up or deposit bonus etc. because players directly play through their web3 wallet. Unfortunately we can't promote as we don't accept bitcoin because bitcoin doesn't have smart contracts.

Every promotions for casino is a trap promotion, it's the same with every jackpot you hit from casino, it will take heavens grace and your own knowledge to avoid giving the money back to them because of your own greed.

The problem I have with web3 casinos is how they will maintain no KYC policy while they are growing, it's like been decentralized, since all you need is to connect your wallet to the platform and gamble.

I remember what happened with Uniswap, they work in such manner too, but they later succumb to the SEC power, they block project off the platform.

If they can do this, any web 3 online casino can come up with rubbish too, whatever this person is telling you about web 3 casino is another promotion too, will they keep to it on the long run? That's a million dollar question.

We all will see what the future brings. At least we are keen to build a safer online casino experience. At least JustBet can't ban any player and can't interfere with withdrawals.

[Crypt0Gore]

I don't know what to call someone like you, if I were in this situation I won't even come on here to make any complaints, you earn some free money, isn't that good enough? You got banned for getting free money based on your luck and it keeps happening, did Rollbit steal from you? I don't think that's it.

You should feel lucky that you are able to withdraw that free money, I am pretty sure there is more to why you are banned, maybe you violated the platform or something, but let's push this aside for a second, you got free money from them and you withdraw with no problem., so what's the problem?

With your accusation of been abuse, some other online casinos won't even grant your withdrawal request.

[famososMuertos]

OP,

It's written there in the small letters, any casino always has them, "any player who abuses the promotions will not be selected or will not be allowed to participate in them", and "blah, blah, blah, blah."

If you are an experienced player as you say, I am getting to know you from this thread, You don't know that, it's basic... common sense of every bettor.

The most recent promotion that I remember, it does not mean that it is active now, was a casino that for simply depositing offered free spins and not 20 or 50, it was up to 250 free spins with each deposit, and they had it weekly, for example, if I deposited $xyz, and I didn't won anything with the spins, wager 1x of my deposit, this was not mandatory, so, deposited again, until one day I managed to hit a good multiplier, yeah, I did the same with my deposit (1x) and withdrew my winnings, without problems.

The condition of making a 1x wager was not in the ToC, and! they had a large "neon" notice that mentioned that there were no binding conditions for slot winnings for their spin deposit promotion, they met it...

...I stopped that practice, which I took advantage of at the time and I'm still in that casino, they have good promotions that I like to take advantage of, but I don't forget that above all the relationship with a casino is commercial, "win-win", It's up to you to put the percentage to that "win".

So. It's common sense, and it's a business, it's just not worth it to be in a casino where they take away your royalties, that doesn't work for you and it doesn't work for the casino either.

There is a belief that casinos want losing players and the truth is that they want guys like you, who know how to win and that is why they promote them, a looser does not know how to invest any bonus or royalty that they give him, it is obvious that the casino wants you to bet, but the science of betting is to manage to maintain a return over time, I think you could obtain better profits in the long term, in the long run these types of "commitments" are for the casino like an investment, they are not "royalties".

For constant 1.01 bet players who want to take advantage of the royalties, some casinos choose to be explicit and make it known clearly in their Toc, others simply leave it in the gray area of "any abuse of our promotions leads to their suspension" , easy money in casinos does not exist.

At the end of this whole story, because it only serves as an example regardless of whether your story is true or not, is that you defined the type of player you are "i was lucky".

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I don't know what to call someone like you, if I were in this situation I won't even come on here to make any complaints, you earn some free money, isn't that good enough? You got banned for getting free money based on your luck and it keeps happening, did Rollbit steal from you? I don't think that's it.

You should feel lucky that you are able to withdraw that free money, I am pretty sure there is more to why you are banned, maybe you violated the platform or something, but let's push this aside for a second, you got free money from them and you withdraw with no problem., so what's the problem?

With your accusation of been abuse, some other online casinos won't even grant your withdrawal request.

Well, I don't think you completely understand or understood what the op is all about exactly.
Based on what I understand, he's not actually accusing Rollbit or scamming any way, and neither is he really complaining about his account that was banned by Rollbit who claimed he was banned due to abuse .

What exactly he(the op ) is saying here is that, he made this thread to warn other users who might be as lucky as he is to receive the kind of bonuses he received , op is only warning us to always withdraw such money out of the casino as soon as we can, as the casino might wake up one morning and ban the user, most especially when he or she has won a lot of money easily from nothing else but the bonus the casino gave to awarded the user with .

[Mr.right85]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake?

OP believes that Rollbit bought "hacked email list of all stake.com users", that is why Rollbit were able to send the promotion bonus to the OP and other Stake.com users.

this is a thread from stake.com forum where they talk about suddenly getting emails from different gambling site.

I had complicated thoughts understanding what the OP meant by Rollbit.com haven’t somehow discovered him or her as a diamond player on Stake.com. Like, where these guys (gambling sites) into any form of data sharing… well it appears that isn’t the case with you talking about email hacks and data sells but, is that overly possible? How many spam mails has one got to read to single out certain high stake or ranking users on the other parties gambling site.
As unusual as the case may seem, it’s most likely not to be the case as, I don’t see a reputable gambling platform like Rollbit going into such shady act just to acquire and keep gamblers.

[CryptSafe]

How Rollbit got your information? Stake and Rollbit are associated with each other? I am not aware of it? And they credited bonus in your account out of no where, only because you are a high roller or diamond player at stake? Moreover I am not getting the motive behind this post, you are warning the users to not play because they banned your 0 balance account for no reason? If you don’t provide any proofs of what you are saying then no one will believe you mate.

I think OP sounds realistic. Casinos have interrelationships and communicate amongst themselves that is why sometimes you see that casinos know and have details about players not just players but high roller coaster players with high membership level on the various casinos they are with. So rollbit giving OP such bonus means they know OP details and are definitely doing that to get OP deposit funds with them as he or she does with other casinos and probably OP took advantage of them and did not deposited anything which was their major target. Definitely, that must have resulted to OP being banned from the casino without any reasons but however calling the attention of the members here is a good thing OP did because this would help prevent some future occurrences as this thread has already revealed most of it and the experience from different replies and comments.

[Wind_FURY]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

Is JustBet truly an onchain gambling service like DirectBet was, or is it merely the wallet interacting with the site on login?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.0

I believe no casino could actually claim to be "no KYC" if it doesn't utilize the blockchain as it should be at the back-end/when the casino's website merely functions as a front-end for the service.

Plus another clue. I believe if a casino is regulated, there are definitely no assurances that it will stay "no KYC" forever. But if it isn't regulated, I want to be assured that the casino is a real onchain casino.

Real "Onchain Casinos" built on top of a real blockchain, that claim to be truly "no KYC" would be very hard to execute.

[swogerino]

10-20x doing it on 1.01. If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse. It probably depend on who is managing the casino. Lets just say its under new management and they noticed your account doing all these to rank up and get benefits.

I'm wondering how you relate this where the casino got your info from Stake. Did stake also locked your account and now its rollbit doing the same thing?  IF this is the case then you really have done the same abuse.

I personally do not see it as abuse at all. If they do not want players placing those types of bets, then they shouldn't offer them. A person can just as easily lose that bet, so they can ask for a refund if it loses? Obviously a casino is not going to refund your bet if you lose, but saying a player is abusing them for betting x1.01 is kinda crazy IMO. They should either remove those bets or disallow them to count towards promotions. Solves the issue.

There are many casinos which have odds like those that do count toward the level up and bonuses as well like 1.03 to 1.10 count toward leveling up in most casinos.The casinos should clearly state that these type of bets do not count toward the promotions just like Stake for example makes it clear in the Level up or slot challenges that they do weekly,they say explicitly that buying the bonus will consist a max of x5 multiplier even if you win a big multi on the bonus round,so you have to play normally in order to go for the promotion prizes.

The same for sport bets,the casinos should be clear,Rollbit in such case should have offered a much more professional explanation as this is bad to their reputation.

[JustBet]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

Is JustBet truly an onchain gambling service like DirectBet was, or is it merely the wallet interacting with the site on login?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.0

I believe no casino could actually claim to be "no KYC" if it doesn't utilize the blockchain as it should be at the back-end/when the casino's website merely functions as a front-end for the service.

Plus another clue. I believe if a casino is regulated, there are definitely no assurances that it will stay "no KYC" forever. But if it isn't regulated, I want to be assured that the casino is a real onchain casino.

Real "Onchain Casinos" built on top of a real blockchain, that claim to be truly "no KYC" would be very hard to execute.

Completely decentralized. You can check the docs and contracts here.  https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/contracts

[AussieMat]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

This is why we have built JustBet. You can directly play from your web3 wallet. Instant payouts, no deposit, no withdrawal, no KYC, no bullsh*t. No one can ban you. Use decentralized casino and stay safe.

Is JustBet truly an onchain gambling service like DirectBet was, or is it merely the wallet interacting with the site on login?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.0

I believe no casino could actually claim to be "no KYC" if it doesn't utilize the blockchain as it should be at the back-end/when the casino's website merely functions as a front-end for the service.

Plus another clue. I believe if a casino is regulated, there are definitely no assurances that it will stay "no KYC" forever. But if it isn't regulated, I want to be assured that the casino is a real onchain casino.

Real "Onchain Casinos" built on top of a real blockchain, that claim to be truly "no KYC" would be very hard to execute.

Completely decentralized. You can check the docs and contracts here.  https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/contracts

On your website it does say KYC. There is deposit and withdrawal. This is not decentralized

[davis196]

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

Being a Diamond player at Stake.com means that you are a hardcore gambler. Right?
How the hell did Rollbit find out that you are Diamond level player on Stake.com? Do you think that the crypto casinos share information about players between each other? That doesn't seem right to me. I don't want multiple crypto casinos to have info about me.
Congratulations on getting such big bonuses. I didn't know that some crypto casinos might be so generous to hardcore gamblers.
I don't think that many people would become cautious about Rollbit. Your post might cause the opposite effect and more people will join Rollbit expecting a big bonus.

[Beparanf]

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

Being a Diamond player at Stake.com means that you are a hardcore gambler. Right?
How the hell did Rollbit find out that you are Diamond level player on Stake.com? Do you think that the crypto casinos share information about players between each other? That doesn't seem right to me. I don't want multiple crypto casinos to have info about me.
Congratulations on getting such big bonuses. I didn't know that some crypto casinos might be so generous to hardcore gamblers.
I don't think that many people would become cautious about Rollbit. Your post might cause the opposite effect and more people will join Rollbit expecting a big bonus.

This is just an OP assumption since he never provided a proof about Rollbit knew that he is high roller on different casino. I believe he is just assuming it to establish a case about his accusation on Rollbit that is not trusted for banning his account.

One thing is questionable here the moment I read this thread. Why does the OP is still salty on his account banned even though he already withdrew his balance including the bonus while he can continue to play again his previous casino which is Stake that he ihas a high level VIP. He already completed his goal if ever his assumption is true that he received exclusive promotion just because he is a high roller on Stake. He manage to win on a casino that is still new to him so I don't understand what's the point on pursuing this kind of warcry unless there's still something else untold in his story.

[fritvalg]

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

Being a Diamond player at Stake.com means that you are a hardcore gambler. Right?
How the hell did Rollbit find out that you are Diamond level player on Stake.com? Do you think that the crypto casinos share information about players between each other? That doesn't seem right to me. I don't want multiple crypto casinos to have info about me.
Congratulations on getting such big bonuses. I didn't know that some crypto casinos might be so generous to hardcore gamblers.
I don't think that many people would become cautious about Rollbit. Your post might cause the opposite effect and more people will join Rollbit expecting a big bonus.

This is just an OP assumption since he never provided a proof about Rollbit knew that he is high roller on different casino. I believe he is just assuming it to establish a case about his accusation on Rollbit that is not trusted for banning his account.

One thing is questionable here the moment I read this thread. Why does the OP is still salty on his account banned even though he already withdrew his balance including the bonus while he can continue to play again his previous casino which is Stake that he ihas a high level VIP. He already completed his goal if ever his assumption is true that he received exclusive promotion just because he is a high roller on Stake. He manage to win on a casino that is still new to him so I don't understand what's the point on pursuing this kind of warcry unless there's still something else untold in his story.

What a wierd message dude.. I am not allowed to post here because i won money?
i warn people..
If you ever had like a 10k balance on Rollbit, im telling people to cash out, cause these people bans accounts, ignoring messages. Lucky for me is that i didnt have money in there when it happend, but maybe you had? If you then came across this post you would maybe consider taking the money out. You for sure can’t say i didnt warn you.

Regarding proofs..

I also provided proofs of their unresponsiveness and i also passed a link for  stakecommunity where all recieved a bonus from Rollbit at the same time. How can you make such an ignorant message if you dont go through it all?

I GUESS ( and try to understand that it really is a guess, but i do think Im right cause a know the Industry pretty well) somebody from Stake or a hacker sold a list to Rollbit with very valueable info. If i deposit +1M$ on Stake, then its obvious that they try with a 6K bonus rather than sending a 100$ to me. It worked.. but because of my luck it didnt pay off. My activity in there has been 80% casino and 20% sports.

I couldnt care less about Rollbit, i just tell people that Rollbit is Wild Wild West and People’s money can be gone forever without any explanation about what happend.

Honestly - after looking around in here.. How many post is about users getting confiscated crazy amount like 20K+. People in here is somehow always trying to defend the casinos actions and eats the answers from the casino raw. Look at him Razors answers “ yea 100% sports abuse confirmed”. He said that to another post, but didnt get detailed or provided any proofs and people started to call the OP of that post an abusers. People afraid of pushing that Razor guy? Is he god?

I believe many people got their money confiscated unjustified from this casino as its uses shady methods to get players, all mods and support uses nicknames and there is no official person with a real name public for this casino.. also too many people who got their balance confiscated. Would never happend with a more serious license like Malta or UK. Here they would be forced into getting detailed. Curacao is just a cheap license with no real option to get a complaint resolved by professionals. The people who reply to a complaint can’t even write proper english.
The bonus i got from Rollbit is even higher than what it cost to accuire a license in curacao.

Not saying that all curacao brands are shady.. you just have to be careful. I 100% trust Stake.. they are big enough to run a proper business and you know the owners. Nothing is hidden. Real names and pictures of support.
Rollbit is a totally different league bro. Ride the wave, until you get shaved.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

Being a Diamond player at Stake.com means that you are a hardcore gambler. Right?
How the hell did Rollbit find out that you are Diamond level player on Stake.com? Do you think that the crypto casinos share information about players between each other? That doesn't seem right to me. I don't want multiple crypto casinos to have info about me.
Congratulations on getting such big bonuses. I didn't know that some crypto casinos might be so generous to hardcore gamblers.
I don't think that many people would become cautious about Rollbit. Your post might cause the opposite effect and more people will join Rollbit expecting a big bonus.

Unfortunately, I personally do not see the big bonus as anything, because first, becoming a hardcore gambling, and even becoming a diamond player in stake, requires that the gambler would have spent more money than what op made as profit from the bonus Rollbit awarded him, and it is not new that most times, in the process of reaching such a level, the gambler must have lost far more money than they've ever won, expect for the few lucky ones who's luck might help them beat the casino over time .

And how Rollbit obtained op information is still a mystery to me as well, because I do not know or believe that casinos share users information with other casinos, that I believe will be so unprofessional and a breach of the user's privacy , maybe op is wrong with that statement that Roll bit obtained his information from Stake, I do not think that is true .

[Beparanf]

One thing is questionable here the moment I read this thread. Why does the OP is still salty on his account banned even though he already withdrew his balance including the bonus while he can continue to play again his previous casino which is Stake that he ihas a high level VIP. He already completed his goal if ever his assumption is true that he received exclusive promotion just because he is a high roller on Stake. He manage to win on a casino that is still new to him so I don't understand what's the point on pursuing this kind of warcry unless there's still something else untold in his story.

What a wierd message dude.. I am not allowed to post here because i won money?
i warn people..
If you ever had like a 10k balance on Rollbit, im telling people to cash out, cause these people bans accounts, ignoring messages. Lucky for me is that i didnt have money in there when it happend, but maybe you had? If you then came across this post you would maybe consider taking the money out. You for sure can’t say i didnt warn you.

Where do you see on my post that you are not allowed to post here? What I’m trying to say here is why you are willing to spend time here just to claim that Rollbit is a scam while there’s no harm to you in terms of money loss. You can’t guarantee either that this issue will happen or happened to other users?

Your proof is not enough to prove that they are scam. Yes your account was banned but they have the right to do it according to their terms of services.

I’m not saying that their action is right but they are not scamming you either or other players. This is what I don’t understand. If you are a real high roller player, It will be easy for you to move on and just continue on Stake with your high level VIP right? Rollbit is operating here for many years without any unresolved issues. The support sent a message here already which shows their willingness to resolve your issue. What happened to it?

[fritvalg]

One thing is questionable here the moment I read this thread. Why does the OP is still salty on his account banned even though he already withdrew his balance including the bonus while he can continue to play again his previous casino which is Stake that he ihas a high level VIP. He already completed his goal if ever his assumption is true that he received exclusive promotion just because he is a high roller on Stake. He manage to win on a casino that is still new to him so I don't understand what's the point on pursuing this kind of warcry unless there's still something else untold in his story.

What a wierd message dude.. I am not allowed to post here because i won money?
i warn people..
If you ever had like a 10k balance on Rollbit, im telling people to cash out, cause these people bans accounts, ignoring messages. Lucky for me is that i didnt have money in there when it happend, but maybe you had? If you then came across this post you would maybe consider taking the money out. You for sure can’t say i didnt warn you.

Where do you see on my post that you are not allowed to post here? What I’m trying to say here is why you are willing to spend time here just to claim that Rollbit is a scam while there’s no harm to you in terms of money loss. You can’t guarantee either that this issue will happen or happened to other users?

Your proof is not enough to prove that they are scam. Yes your account was banned but they have the right to do it according to their terms of services.

I’m not saying that their action is right but they are not scamming you either or other players. This is what I don’t understand. If you are a real high roller player, It will be easy for you to move on and just continue on Stake with your high level VIP right? Rollbit is operating here for many years without any unresolved issues. The support sent a message here already which shows their willingness to resolve your issue. What happened to it?

Are you from Rollbit or?
They never scammed me, but if i didnt withdraw the last 10K balance i had in there before i was banned.. then i would have been scammed. Cause i got a bonus like almost a year ago, since then i only deposited and withdrew with my own money (and yes money that i won, but that doesnt matter here. A deposit is a deposit.)

Have you ever looked in the Rollbit thread or searched their name? Its full of unresolved issues with people who got confiscated life changing money without any accurate explanation. So when Rollbit support joins a post thats getting to hot with a reason to the issue being “ Our sportsbook provider Betby warned us and confirmed 100% abuse” then you think its resolved. I read about confiscations every week. Where do you read?

One day it might be you who got extremely lucky and suddenly the money you won would be gone and you might be left out of the account with no further explanation. Imagine comming here with your case and meet people like yourself, who more trust a shady brand that you know absolutely nothing about.

Yes, they reached out to me, and i requested that i would give them the username here public if they would be 100% detailed about what i did, so people in here could make their own opinion if it was fair or not. Did support answer that? Nope.

Btw i didnt post this in scam accusations cause i was not scammed, but if you were betting in there right now.. i could hopefully help you a bit to read this so you knew that “ okay i have a good balance here on a brand that multiple people actually got their money confiscated from.. maybe i should withdraw it”.

See it as a help. That was my intention.

[AbsoluteT]

There are many good alternatives to rollbit I found and like BetSwirl  but there tons of better sites

[Haunebu]

Rollbit does not scam gamblers, but they do employ shady tactics very often to make sure that their business stays afloat based on what I observed which is why it's not advisable to invest huge amounts there.

Anyone with a half-decent brain knows that they utilise KYC in a messed up manner now and then to try and stop gamblers from withdrawing their winnings successfully.

[dewez]

Hi. My friend CHATGPT help me out:

I wanted to share my experience as a Rollbit user. It appears that Rollbit somehow acquired my information, possibly from my previous involvement with Stake. As a Diamond-level player on stake, Rollbit unexpectedly awarded me 6k for free. This made me quite profitable since I hadn't deposited any of my own funds, and I managed to cash out between 50-80k in the past year.

However, my Rollbit account was recently disabled without any prior notice. Fortunately, I had already withdrawn my balance as a precaution. When I reached out to inquire about the reason behind the ban, I received only a brief response: "Banned permanently for abuse." They didn't offer any further explanation.

My activities on Rollbit mainly involved participating in their crash game and placing bets on various sports events. Occasionally, I made 1.01 bets in pursuit of their Level up bonus. If such bets were not allowed, it raises the question of why Rollbit offered those odds in the first place.

I'm not deeply attached to my Rollbit account, but it seems they may have grown weary of not seeing a return on the money they awarded me. In total, I received 14K in bonuses without ever depositing my "own" money.

My intention in sharing this story is to caution all of you to approach Rollbit  with caution. It's essential to be aware of the risks, especially when they involve receiving unexpected bonuses or promotions from them.  I hope none of you have to endure the disappointment of having your funds confiscated. Stay safe

i think its pretty clear what happened. they fronted you cash, hoping it would sink a hook into your cheek- turning you into a long term user who would then dump them cash. since this did not happen, they cut ties with you.

[Wiwo]

Most casinos have a system in place that acts as if the whole mechanism of. The system is designed to cheat the players but then also we have to be sure that what we feel and see as a cheat from the casino is not just one of those unfavourable house edge advantages that the casino has silently mentioned in their terms and conditions.

So for sure we as players have to be clear on some things to help us avoid many assumptions,  because what was mentioned that Rollbits scammed him is all tailored to the fact that he may have failed to properly understand how this casinos act with their principles.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Most casinos have a system in place that acts as if the whole mechanism of. The system is designed to cheat the players but then also we have to be sure that what we feel and see as a cheat from the casino is not just one of those unfavourable house edge advantages that the casino has silently mentioned in their terms and conditions.

So for sure we as players have to be clear on some things to help us avoid many assumptions,  because what was mentioned that Rollbits scammed him is all tailored to the fact that he may have failed to properly understand how this casinos act with their principles.

You are literally right, and I agree with you bud, there are many gamblers out there who do not read, but are quick to accuse a casino of trying to, or actually scamming them at the slightest given opportunity, some do this when they expected to win a game but lost instead, they find a way to get back at the casino, and one of such ways is to accuse the casino of scam or so.

I use to have a friend in some days far way, who will always come one forum like this accuse a casino of scamming him after he has gambled on the casino and legitimately lost, his accusation is not because he does not know that he legitimately lost, but because he is angry and needed to vent some of those anger on the casino  , this is why I usually don't believe scam accusations against gambling casino without the accuser providing concrete evidence.

[Hamphser]

There are many good alternatives to rollbit I found and like BetSwirl  but there tons of better sites

You are really just making some bumps of a thread which it had been inactive for months already on which this isnt really that good.
So refrain on doing that on next time.

Going back into the topic about alternatives to Rollbit? Yes, there are tons and this is the best thing when the competition is high because you could really be able
to choose on what options that you are taking because different sites does have their different user experience and offering they do give.
I dont see for Rollbit to be a shit site though considering that they've been running through all the years here on this space and maintain their popularity.
The fact that they had launched recently their signature campaign showing those Rollbit Arena on which i could tell that it is really that interesting.