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September 11, 2023, 07:01:17 AM
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syncing the wallet takes a lot longer and consumes quite a bit of data.
To emphasize this: if you're going to use Unstoppable Wallet on mobile data, this is really something to keep in mind. It's on track now to consume more than 10 GB/month in bandwidth, and that's with only 4 coins in the wallet! I'm wondering now: does it download and check full Bitcoin blocks? It kinda makes sense for privacy, but I didn't realize it would be that much. If I'd use mobile data only, this alone would burn through my bundle.

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syncing the wallet takes a lot longer and consumes quite a bit of data.
To emphasize this: if you're going to use Unstoppable Wallet, this is really something to keep in mind. It's on track now to consume more than 10 GB/month in bandwidth, and that's with only 4 coins in the wallet! I'm wondering now: does it download and check full Bitcoin blocks? It kinda makes sense for privacy, but I didn't realize it would be that much. If I'd use mobile data only, this alone would burn through my bundle.

I just downloaded Unstoppable  and imported my coinomi seed.

It is Taking too long to sync (more than 10minutes and still 18%). I am not using Tor.

The wallet also has a heavy UI, too many useless tais like markets, news... I found how to hide some in the options.

Overall good wallet, but I think it could more simple and straightforward,  like electrum


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September 11, 2023, 02:11:22 PM
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I just downloaded Unstoppable  and imported my coinomi seed.

It is Taking too long to sync (more than 10minutes and still 18%). I am not using Tor.

The wallet also has a heavy UI, too many useless tais like markets, news... I found how to hide some in the options.

Overall good wallet, but I think it could more simple and straightforward,  like electrum

Do you have thousands of transactions by any chance? and are you using ZEC (I know they have an issue with it syncing)? Otherwise, I know the syncing is a bit slow (maybe a minute or two compared to other wallets) and I have experienced it before, but 10 minutes and you're still at 18%?! That's way too much.

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Do you have thousands of transactions by any chance? and are you using ZEC (I know they have an issue with it syncing)? Otherwise, I know the syncing is a bit slow (maybe a minute or two compared to other wallets) and I have experienced it before, but 10 minutes and you're still at 18%?! That's way too much.

No thousands, but a few dozens (less than a hundred)

Old wallet from 2017, all bitcoin address formats (before bch fork). So I have 4 bitcoin wallets and all of them are syncing independently (legacy , segwit, native segwit and taproot). I also have ethereum from the same time.

Wallet didn't sync yet (I minimized it, and it didn't work in background). I will keep it open for a while... less than 30%..

Maybe it will be slow just the first time.

Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)


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September 11, 2023, 07:25:15 PM
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Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)
There is: it's called "API" instead of "From Blockchain". I think that's the default, so I'm not sure which one you're using. I imagine "API" is like Electrum, while "From Blockchain" is more like Bitcoin Wallet.

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September 11, 2023, 11:15:50 PM
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Personally,  I think there should be a easy-quick sync option. Specially tk save mobile data (for those who are not near wifi)
There is: it's called "API" instead of "From Blockchain". I think that's the default, so I'm not sure which one you're using. I imagine "API" is like Electrum, while "From Blockchain" is more like Bitcoin Wallet.

Yes, it is default. I used API and Tor off.

It was very slow to complete the first sync. Now it is fast to sync when I open the wallet


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December 06, 2023, 07:21:29 PM
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I will make an update to this topic.

I used Unstoppeable wallet for some time, but it lacks too many functions (like coin control) and doesnt support many coins. So I continued to use Coinomi until now.

Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!

The reason is that they didnt update the monero wallet after the hard fork.

More details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/COINOMI/comments/x79hvt/monero_not_syncing/

and the solution here to recover monero coins from coinomi
https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000039549

In the end, I had to use a coinomi bip39 tool to recover my coins! (https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/)  and download a monero wallet.

Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)


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December 07, 2023, 08:23:57 AM
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^ yes, monero is under maintenance since quite a long time, but even other cryptos don't sync, so I was forced to make change too. It's sad to see such handy wallet being abandoned.

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December 07, 2023, 09:36:16 AM
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I used Unstoppeable wallet for some time, but it lacks too many functions (like coin control) and doesnt support many coins.
I don't mind the lack of coins (which I don't use anyway), but coin control is indeed needed. I'm using Tor and "From Blockchain" instead of API for maximum privacy, only to get my inputs connected on-chain.

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Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!
I don't get it: this is the reason I posted What happened to Coinomi?, which you Merited and linked from your OP. Why did you still use Coinomi for Monero?

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Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Last update: March 19, 2022. It's unfortunate.

I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.

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I don't get it: this is the reason I posted What happened to Coinomi?, which you Merited and linked from your OP. Why did you still use Coinomi for Monero?

I forgot that your problem was with XMR... I opened Unstoppeable I saw that it doesnt support XMR, and I didn't had time to set up a new wallet, I just generated the address with coinomi...

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I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.
I am using Moneruju on android, just ok for now.. Just use for dust too


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December 07, 2023, 04:34:47 PM
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Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Next time ask before using anything, especially old outdated closed source wallets  Wink
Many people here could tell you that about Coinimoi, and there are several alternatives you could use, Stack wallet is one of them for privacy multicoins, or you could just use monero-only wallets.
Maybe even Bisq exchange can work like a wallet, it supports Bitcoin, monero and few other coins.

This is one is last alternative I found for desktop (no xmr), but consider it experimental wallet only!
https://github.com/bitlogik/uniblow

I now use Feather for Monero (dust), a hot wallet on my desktop.
It works good, it looks very similar like Electrum wallet, and I think it supports hardware wallets (for people who need that).

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December 07, 2023, 05:41:25 PM
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Yesterday I had to receive some payment using XMR, and then I discovered Coinomi is supporting it (it generates addresses) but it doesnt sync and doesnt send coins. Terrible!

You have many closed source options for multi-currency wallets and I don't know why anyone would prefer to use currencies like XMR without open source wallets.
There is an easier solution, which is to use Cake wallet.
Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?

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December 07, 2023, 05:51:05 PM
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Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?
If it's abandoned, there may be nobody left to remove Monero.

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December 07, 2023, 06:11:56 PM
Last edit: December 07, 2023, 06:22:31 PM by bitmover
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Terrible experience, stay away from coinomi. (Great software, but abandoned)
Next time ask before using anything, especially old outdated closed source wallets  Wink
Many people here could tell you that about Coinimoi, and there are several alternatives you could use, Stack wallet is one of them for privacy multicoins, or you could just use monero-only wallets.
Maybe even Bisq exchange can work like a wallet, it supports Bitcoin, monero and few other coins.

This is one is last alternative I found for desktop (no xmr), but consider it experimental wallet only!
https://github.com/bitlogik/uniblow

I would say that there is no alternative to Coinomi wallet so far.

All those suggested wallets have problems, like bad bitcoin implementation (no coim control), lack of important coins such as xmr, etc...

I didn't download it now, I have in my phone since 2017.
I had to receive some XMR and it was the most handy alternative ...


Edit:
I won't use Unstoppable again, no coin control is a deal breaker to me.

I will take a look at cake wallet


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December 07, 2023, 06:52:20 PM
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Why does this wallet continue to add and use Monero even though they know there is a synchronization problem for more than a year?
If it's abandoned, there may be nobody left to remove Monero.
There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

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There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

The article hasn't been updated for a long time, and it's around the same time they started being inactive on their other social media accounts.

I think someone here asked about them not a very long time ago, and I tried to reach out to the support through Telegram IIRC, but there wasn't so much help. It does look abandoned but I'm surprised there are not many complaints about them online.

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There have been responses from the support team over the past year. It is funny that the support team works without an update from the technical team. https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000009675-how-much-do-i-have-to-pay-to-use-coinomi-how-do-i-set-fees-
I haven't read many articles, but some of the advice in the above article needs updating.

The article hasn't been updated for a long time, and it's around the same time they started being inactive on their other social media accounts.

I think someone here asked about them not a very long time ago, and I tried to reach out to the support through Telegram IIRC, but there wasn't so much help. It does look abandoned but I'm surprised there are not many complaints about them online.

Probably because for the 'basic' popular coins it does work.
BTC - LTC - ETH - Doge - any many others are still working.
Others like XMR have been dead for a while.

With no discussion or support how many NEW users are they getting.
And as old users slowly stop using it, and people here telling people not to use it even fewer new users will come onboard.
So IMO it's just going to slowly fade away.

And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

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And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.


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And since they do use standard derivations and we do have the iancolman tool it's not like people are loosing access to their coins. It's just a pain to get to them sometimes.

-Dave


I found out that iancoleman.io tool removed monero from the supported coins.

However,  coinomi has its own bip39 tool with monero support.  I linked it above.

True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

I was responding to the comment about there not being a lot of complaints about them.

There have been so many wallets that just faded away leaving people trying to figure out how to get their coins because they did something that was so non-standard as to make it just about impossible to get your coins.

Makes you wonder if we will ever know what happened to coinomi and why.

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Last edit: December 08, 2023, 08:39:15 PM by bitmover
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True but if you don't mind having your seed in more then one place (which is bad) can import your seed into an XMR wallet with no issues.

Actually, you can't.

You need to put your bip39 seed in coinomi bip 39, and then you will get the xmr seed

https://coinomi.github.io/tools/bip39/

So you need to use this XMR seed. You can't import the bip39 seed into moneruju or cake wallet.


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