23/24 European basketball discussion: Euroleague/BBL/ACB/LegaA/LNB/TBL..

[LTU_btc]

Some interesting results in Euroleague today. Monaco simply destroyed Real Madrid 98:74, they were leading whole 40 minutes and at one moment Monaco lead reached 29 points. Such huge result is big upset, but even teams like Real can have bad days.
Zalgiris reached comfortable win at home against Fenerbahche 98:75. Probably too much is already wasted to fight for Play-in, but seems that Trinchieri managed to change team face.
Panathinaikos won against Partizan. PAO is on fire, in last 8 Euroleague games they only lost once. It was good game to watch, but poor 4th quarter didn't let Partizan to fight till the end.

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Some interesting results in Euroleague today. Monaco simply destroyed Real Madrid 98:74, they were leading whole 40 minutes and at one moment Monaco lead reached 29 points. Such huge result is big upset, but even teams like Real can have bad days.
Zalgiris reached comfortable win at home against Fenerbahche 98:75. Probably too much is already wasted to fight for Play-in, but seems that Trinchieri managed to change team face.
Panathinaikos won against Partizan. PAO is on fire, in last 8 Euroleague games they only lost once. It was good game to watch, but poor 4th quarter didn't let Partizan to fight till the end.

Without Kevin Punter, Partizan's chances get low. Jaramaz is very inefficient and Jaleen Smith doesn't get much playing time. Perry Dozier continues his versatile game. 16p-7r-8a-6st are excellent stats. There seems to be some unrest in Partizan. They never play Kaminsky. Punter is nothing like last year. Jaramaz is terrible. He can't seem to get into a rhythm. On the other hand, Pana has the peace of mind of having found a rhythm one way or another. With Grant and Lesort, they raise the energy of the team very high. They gave the offence to Nunn and Sloukas, they got comfortable. Especially Nunn still having a lot of turnovers, but Pana accepts it. When you leave all the creative element on him, turnovers are a byproduct. It's hard to say how far Pana can go but things seem good.

[LTU_btc]

Didn't watched the game - what happened to Crvena Zvezda? They had no chance today against Alba. They burned my bet - odds weren't high, so, I had quite some money on this game.
Another upset is ASVEL win against Bayern. Nobody wants to be last.
Fenerbahche and Real got quite comfortablw wins, while Maccabi managed to win against Panathinaikos. PAO were on fire recently.
4 more games tomorrow, and all 4 is looking interesting.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Didn't watched the game - what happened to Crvena Zvezda? They had no chance today against Alba. They burned my bet - odds weren't high, so, I had quite some money on this game.
Another upset is ASVEL win against Bayern. Nobody wants to be last.
Fenerbahche and Real got quite comfortablw wins, while Maccabi managed to win against Panathinaikos. PAO were on fire recently.
4 more games tomorrow, and all 4 is looking interesting.

I just checked the pre game odds for the Alba vs Zvezda game and Alba was on a 4 point underdog with odd of 1.5 for Zvezda to win.
Looks a little bit like a trap game since Zvezda is MUCH better than Alba on paper. They didn't even miss big time players ( Teodosic these days can't be considered big time) and still they found themselves down by as many as 22 in the 3rd.

Really a strange game, just like Bayern.

Seems like the race to not become last place is on. 

[ajanwalker]

Fenerbahçe continues to win on its home field. last night d
It defeated Virtus Bologna, which was ranked above it in terms of points, 88-75. They lost once to Red Star on their home field. (We can also see it as a work accident 😔)
Fenerbahçe team plays very intense matches at Ülker Sports and Event Hall. He performs very well with the driving force of his audience, but unfortunately he cannot show the same success on the road. Now there is a 3-game away series, the first of which is Asvel and Asvel is a team at the bottom of the points table and Fenerbahçe must definitely beat Asvel. Because the next two matches are against Monaco and Panathinaikos and these two matches will be more difficult.

[casperBGD]

Didn't watched the game - what happened to Crvena Zvezda? They had no chance today against Alba. They burned my bet - odds weren't high, so, I had quite some money on this game.
~snip

not sure what it is between Alba and Zvezda, but Zvezda is probably only team that had negative balance with them (it is actually 8/2 for Alba in last 5 seasons)
wrote about that before match in Belgrade, where Zvezda managed to win over Alba after four consecutive loses at home
sorry for your bet

Partizan is facing Zalgiris tonight in Belgrade, hope to see a win, it is a really important match for us to stay in upper half
odds are low to risk it, and judging by Partizan plays at home, handicap on Zalgiris is better option (while I hope that Partizan will win it, and not close it)

[CLS63]

I was at Sinan Erdem Sports Hall today to watch Efes' game against Monaco. Efes were decent in the first half. However their performance in Q3 was a big disappointment. Their choices in offense organizations weren't good enough. Ending up with turnovers in really critical times also had a big affect on Efes to lose this game by 78-80.

Beaubois could have nearly extended the game to overtime but it turned out not to be a 3-pointer.    The coach Erdem Can targeted to keep the same level they had in the Barcelona game but there wasn't such performance this time.

[casperBGD]

Partizan won it last night, and was just above handicap
nevertheless, happy to see us win one match without getting to much behind and leading during the match
big change in comparison to usual -10+ to start playing some basketball

as it looks now, Partizan, Valencia, Baskonia and Olympiakos will fight it out for three places in play-off first round

[ILuckyGuyI]

Is there anyone who has seen Georgios Papagiannis' three-pointer in the last second? As a person who has been watching basketball for a long time Papagiannis managed to carry the game to overtime in a moment that I thought the match ended and Fenerbahçe won the match. I can't even imagine the disappointment Bahçeşehir players had.

https://x.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1751325290435850265

[LTU_btc]

Is there anyone who has seen Georgios Papagiannis' three-pointer in the last second? As a person who has been watching basketball for a long time Papagiannis managed to carry the game to overtime in a moment that I thought the match ended and Fenerbahçe won the match. I can't even imagine the disappointment Bahçeşehir players had.

https://x.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1751325290435850265

Wanted to post it, but you have done it before me. Crazy moment, even coach Jasikevicius already accepted loss and already walked to shake hands with Bahçeşehir coach. Such moments is ver rare in basketball and it instantly gave me flashbacks of similar Zoran Planinic buzzer beater:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K83bSLQIHsY Klemen Prepelic also have done something similar when he played for Joventut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uTyWm6PKYE

https://i.postimg.cc/3R6yC7k2/efes-monaco.jpg

I was at Sinan Erdem Sports Hall today to watch Efes' game against Monaco. Efes were decent in the first half. However their performance in Q3 was a big disappointment. Their choices in offense organizations weren't good enough. Ending up with turnovers in really critical times also had a big affect on Efes to lose this game by 78-80.

Beaubois could have nearly extended the game to overtime but it turned out not to be a 3-pointer.    The coach Erdem Can targeted to keep the same level they had in the Barcelona game but there wasn't such performance this time.

Damn, Efes lost so many close games... They don't get defeated by 20 points, almost all their losses is just few points margin. Watched game and wanted to see overtime, but yeah, Beaubois really crossed on the line.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Is there anyone who has seen Georgios Papagiannis' three-pointer in the last second? As a person who has been watching basketball for a long time Papagiannis managed to carry the game to overtime in a moment that I thought the match ended and Fenerbahçe won the match. I can't even imagine the disappointment Bahçeşehir players had.

https://x.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1751325290435850265

Oh wow, thanks for sharing.
This shot really deserves the title "desperation shot"!
Kind of a mix between a hook shot and a put shot, only difference its from like 35 or more meters. Amazing!
Just checked and watched the overtime as well, comeback complete!

Many other nice games yesterday as well. In Germany 3rd place and German champion Ratiopharm Ulm (13:4) lost at home by 21 points against 16th place Tübingen (4:13) . How these results can happen is beyond my understanding.

[LTU_btc]

Many other nice games yesterday as well. In Germany 3rd place and German champion Ratiopharm Ulm (13:4) lost at home by 21 points against 16th place Tübingen (4:13) . How these results can happen is beyond my understanding.

And Real got destroyed by Gran Canaria today 77:00. Yeah, they have excuse of missing many players because of injuries, but still, result is huge. Seems that trip to Las Palmas is one of toughest in Europe (not surprising when you see where this island is located) and Gran Canaria losses at home is very rare thing.
But this is why I love leagues like ACB or German BBL There is so many good level teams that every week you can get upsets. I think it says a lot about level of league that Baskonia is out of playoff zone in ACB.
Today there is Belgrade derby between Crvena Zvezda and Partizan in Adriatic league, too bad that this league isn't shown on TV in my country.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Last night I was up late to watch Crvena zvezda vs Partizan. This was an exiting game!!
Everything looked done in the first half already when Partizan was done by as many as 21 points, I felt a bit sad because I stayed awake just to witness a blowout.

But then in the 2nd half Partizan slowly got back into the game, always making some small runs but Crvena always had an answer until the 4th quarter. Beginning of the 4th being down 19 you would think the game is over, but never for these 2 teams.

The game got closer and closer and even a tie game in the last minute after a 3 point foul and 3 sunk fts. After the game winner by Crvena, Partizan still had a shot to win the game but it was a bad shot with also 2sec on the clock, could have gotten a better one with a pass.
After the end the atmosphere was as usual, AMAZING. That's why I watch these game, it's so electric. NBA feels so boring compared to this.

[ajanwalker]

Fenerbahçe Asvel passed away without any losses. Even though they trailed 42-39 in the first half, they managed to win the match with a score of 73-83.
Jonathan Motley had an important share in Fenerbahçe's victory with 24 points.
Bayern Munich Baskonia match ended 94-94 in normal time. Bayern won the extra time with a score of 112-109.
This Bayern team is an unbalanced team and while they beat Baskonia at home, they can still lose at home to Asvel, the weakest team in the league in terms of performance.
If Pablo Laso stays in the team next year and the Bavarian team allocates a good budget for basketball, the Euroleague championship may come. The final four is very difficult this year.

[LTU_btc]

Bayern Munich Baskonia match ended 94-94 in normal time. Bayern won the extra time with a score of 112-109.
This Bayern team is an unbalanced team and while they beat Baskonia at home, they can still lose at home to Asvel, the weakest team in the league in terms of performance.
If Pablo Laso stays in the team next year and the Bavarian team allocates a good budget for basketball, the Euroleague championship may come. The final four is very difficult this year.

Bayern - Baskonia was great game. Codi Miller-Mcintyre sent game to overtime with buzzer beater, but Bayern survived game in in overtime.
For me Bayern doesn't looks like team which have ambitions to win Euroleague soon. It's good organisation what comes from football, but they aren't ready to spend lot of money to win this trophy and don't get any returns. After all, in Europe you can't earn in basketball.
In other games Crvena Zvezda didn't had any troubles against Valencia. It was a bit strange to see many empty seats in Stark arena and calm atmosphere there. But maybe it's normal, after Belgrade derby this game looked meh.

[LTU_btc]

After huge defeat in Kaunas against Zalgiris, Anadolou Efes sacked coach Erdem Can. It's already 8th coach in Euroleague who lost his job this season, so, it's almost half of teams. Efes previously had many injured players and lot of very close loses, but there is no excuses for yesterday's loss by 26 points. Having all main players available and you lose game already in 1st quarter - 34:14.
Interesting who will be their next coach, I guess that appointing assistant is just temporary option.

[casperBGD]

Partizan lost important match last against Virtus, and we had our chances to win, but lost in the end

and it was a rollercoaster for me as well
had waiting Dortmund to win, and Virtus to win on a parlay
and since Dortmund wasn't scoring, and Partizan took a lead, I thought, at least we are going to win, but as soon as Dortmund finished, Partizan also stopped playing, and lost match, although had +6 when Dortmund ended

onwards to next round

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Partizan lost important match last against Virtus, and we had our chances to win, but lost in the end

and it was a rollercoaster for me as well
had waiting Dortmund to win, and Virtus to win on a parlay
and since Dortmund wasn't scoring, and Partizan took a lead, I thought, at least we are going to win, but as soon as Dortmund finished, Partizan also stopped playing, and lost match, although had +6 when Dortmund ended

onwards to next round

Well that's classic.
I almost never can win 2 team parleys. Always both teams start well, then suddenly 2 team stops playing and in the end both teams lose, at odds of 1.4-1.5 for each, always.
Seems like Kaunas is picking up some good wins lately, they look impressive.
Efes also secured their first win after firing their coach, even coming back after a terrible first half and being down by 10 or something. After the break they pretty much destroyed Milano.

Me as a Dortmund fan can feel your pain, even if you just bet on them. 

[ajanwalker]

It's a nightmare for F.Bahçe Basketball Team fans.
They closed the first half of the Monaco match ahead 36-44. The fight was close in the third quarter, but no matter what, the team scored 8 points in the fourth quarter, inviting defeat.
Monaco won the match by scoring 21 points in the last quarter. (76-69)
Some things in Fenerbahçe are completely psychological. I can't understand how a team can play well in three quarters and then play so badly in the last quarter.
Mike James looks to have found himself in Monaco. He is a player who could have made Monaco champions if he had not created unrest within the team and had problems with the coach, but he was always the one who caused problems in every team he went to. As far as I remember, CSK was expelled from Moscow. If he recovers psychologically, he will contribute a lot to the team.
F.Bahçe got the results I expected. I thought he would beat Asvel but lose to Monaco, and that's what happened.
The only thing I regret is losing against Monaco when we could have easily beaten them.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Have you seen the Anadolu Efes - Milano game? The third quarter was spectacular for the Turkish side. I mean a 30-7 quarter score by saying that. 

They really made me worried in the last quarter despite winning though. The main issue for Anadolu Efes was with defending in this game. They just couldn't defend inside well. I can't say they were good against outside shot attempts either.    It was at least nice to see some progress in set play. I couldn't see it in the previous home game against Monaco much.

What do you think on their chance to reach playoffs stage?