23/24 European basketball discussion: Euroleague/BBL/ACB/LegaA/LNB/TBL..

[LTU_btc]

Finally Euroleague is back, this break looked such long. Partizan - Efes sound interesting, it's like 2 points game because direct competitors is playing.
Barca - Monaco should be good one too.

I am also not a fan of "buying players" and bringing them into the national team. I mean we also did this in the past with Chris Kaman and lately with Nick Weiler-Babb. But at least these guys have some German descent.

I'm fine when player have somie ties with country that he represents. But when they sign random players who maybe can't even find that country on the map, it's complete joke.

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[casperBGD]

match is in final moments, and Partizan is near a win over Efes, and probably over 100 points scored tonight
important win, hopefully there will not be some major surprise in last seconds, that gets us back into play-off race

on the other side, Efes is now pretty far from that fight, 2 wins at least, and there is not much games left
Maccabi already won over Alba, while Virtus is ahead over Valencia, and Real is surprisingly losing at home against PAO

[LTU_btc]

match is in final moments, and Partizan is near a win over Efes, and probably over 100 points scored tonight
important win, hopefully there will not be some major surprise in last seconds, that gets us back into play-off race

on the other side, Efes is now pretty far from that fight, 2 wins at least, and there is not much games left
Maccabi already won over Alba, while Virtus is ahead over Valencia, and Real is surprisingly losing at home against PAO

If we're talking about play-in, being 2 games away still isn't mission impossible, but situation is complicated after you lose against direct competitor. Zalgiris is 2 wins away too, they didn't had chances against Olympiacos today, but I'm not sure that they had that much expectations to win this game.
What is a bit unexpected is Monaco win against Barca away. Seems that Monaco become most difficult opponent for Barca after Real recently. And Alba - they didn't lost, they were humiliated. It's justshameful to lose at home by 35 points...

[casperBGD]

Efes stormed Bayern at home, and they are now both on 16 loses
cheering for Zalgiris and Barcelona to take down Maccabi and Valencia, which would be helpful for Partizan in a play-in fight

Monaco won over Zvezda
Partizan is playing one more important match (all till the end are) tomorrow against Olimpia in Milano, and win would be great to seal Olimpia out, and improve our own chances to get in
according to bookies it is possible, and IMO it is 50/50

[CLS63]

I was at Sinan Erdem Sports Hall today to watch the Anadolu Efes - Bayern Munich match. This was one of the greatest performances I have ever seen from Anadolu Efes in the Euroleague this season.    After some tension occurred on Bayern Munich side at the end of the first half they started to drop in performance a lot. It was so easy for Anadolu Efes to destroy them.

Tonight was absolutely the captain Larkin's night.    Such an amazing performance with 28 points! After opening the gap quite a lot Larkin just started to turn it into a great show to watch.

[LTU_btc]

Efes stormed Bayern at home, and they are now both on 16 loses
cheering for Zalgiris and Barcelona to take down Maccabi and Valencia, which would be helpful for Partizan in a play-in fight

Monaco won over Zvezda
Partizan is playing one more important match (all till the end are) tomorrow against Olimpia in Milano, and win would be great to seal Olimpia out, and improve our own chances to get in
according to bookies it is possible, and IMO it is 50/50

Zalgiris lost to Maccabi and if they still had dreams about playoffs, it's over.
Fenerbahche won against Real for the second time this season. And they did in confident way, something what you won't see in Madrid often.
Mike James become all time Euroleague top scorer with 4457 points and overtook Vassilis Spanoulis. Monaco achieved easy win against Crvena Zvezda.
About Olimpia - Partizan, Olimpia is such unpredictable team. Sometimes they play shit, but they're capable to beat almost anyone on good day.

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Efes stormed Bayern at home, and they are now both on 16 loses
cheering for Zalgiris and Barcelona to take down Maccabi and Valencia, which would be helpful for Partizan in a play-in fight

Monaco won over Zvezda
Partizan is playing one more important match (all till the end are) tomorrow against Olimpia in Milano, and win would be great to seal Olimpia out, and improve our own chances to get in
according to bookies it is possible, and IMO it is 50/50

Zalgiris lost to Maccabi and if they still had dreams about playoffs, it's over.
Fenerbahche won against Real for the second time this season. And they did in confident way, something what you won't see in Madrid often.
Mike James become all time Euroleague top scorer with 4457 points and overtook Vassilis Spanoulis. Monaco achieved easy win against Crvena Zvezda.
About Olimpia - Partizan, Olimpia is such unpredictable team. Sometimes they play shit, but they're capable to beat almost anyone on good day.

Mike James' accomplishment is impressive and praiseworthy. He is still not too old and he accomplished this while played in the nba 1,5 seasons if I'm not mistaken. I respect him a lot.

Fenerbahce had a huge win in an away game. They managed to get Tavares into foul trouble early and Nigel and Calathes played great and Fener got a very important win. Fener lost to Red Star Belgrade two times this season when they beat Real also two times. It is rather interesting. Fener will regret immensely those losses to Red Star at the end. I wonder how the playoffs will be.

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Mike James' accomplishment is impressive and praiseworthy. He is still not too old and he accomplished this while played in the nba 1,5 seasons if I'm not mistaken. I respect him a lot.

Fenerbahce had a huge win in an away game. They managed to get Tavares into foul trouble early and Nigel and Calathes played great and Fener got a very important win. Fener lost to Red Star Belgrade two times this season when they beat Real also two times. It is rather interesting. Fener will regret immensely those losses to Red Star at the end. I wonder how the playoffs will be.
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Considering Mike James is not in Europe for THAT long that really is impressive!
Back when he was with Brooklyn in the NBA he was already showing what he can do, that's why I was surprised when he went to Europe.
Maybe he would have made more money in the US but over there he is just one of many. In Europe he is a star that can shine in the brightest light. Not to mention that Monaco is a great place to live at, with a lot of advantages tax wise, if you know what I mean.

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Zalgiris didn't won against Maccabi, and probably lost all chances to get into top10 and play-in
but important win for Barca against Valencia, and Valencia is now on 15 loses, so Partizan have a chance to spare one lose against Olimpia tonight

our former player, Vesely had a lead against Valencia for Barca

will be intense tonight in Milano

[LTU_btc]

Considering Mike James is not in Europe for THAT long that really is impressive!
Back when he was with Brooklyn in the NBA he was already showing what he can do, that's why I was surprised when he went to Europe.
Maybe he would have made more money in the US but over there he is just one of many. In Europe he is a star that can shine in the brightest light. Not to mention that Monaco is a great place to live at, with a lot of advantages tax wise, if you know what I mean.

For American 10 seasons in Euroleague is quite a lot. In all these years he become face of modern era Euroleague. Now he is 33 years old, so, probably he still have 2-3 seasons remaining. With such scoring averages it will be difficult to reach him for someone. Now only thing that he is missing is winning Euroleague.

our former player, Vesely had a lead against Valencia for Barca

It was so long time ago that I already forgot that. It looks that he spent eternity at Fenerbahche.

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our former player, Vesely had a lead against Valencia for Barca

It was so long time ago that I already forgot that. It looks that he spent eternity at Fenerbahche.

yeah, that was in previous Partizan Euroleague stage, prior to almost a decade break that we had
he was so young then, came almost as a teenager, and can't remember well, but I think he had a NBA episode after that
our coach at the time, Vujosevic, had a great sense to pick good and young players

back to tonight game, intense in Milano, looks as a close match till the end
although teams do play in series so far

[LTU_btc]

back to tonight game, intense in Milano, looks as a close match till the end
although teams do play in series so far

It was close game until final seconds. Partizan had great chance to win game or send it to OT at least, but how you can make such poor attack after timeout. Leday goes with ball almost whole court and makes last shot. Especially when you have Punter on the court. And it's not first time this season, IIRC, there was game where Kaminsky had last shot and offcourse he missed it. Neither Kaminsky or Leday doesn't looks like players who you would like to see taking last shot.
This loss may cost a lot for Partizan.

[LTU_btc]

Terrible day for Serbian clubs in Euroleague. Crvena Zvezda had huge lead against Maccabi, but they wasted it, 4th quarter was just action in one direction. While Partizan, it already looked that that they're in the game when difference was just 4 points. But then Barca run away and didn't looked back, 4th quarter result 8:20.
Fenerbahche destroyed Valencia 118:88 and made new Euroleague record with scoring 24 3-pointers. 72 points from 3-pointers, crazy.
Olympiacos showed some elite defence and won in Greek derby against Panathinaikos 71:65.

[casperBGD]

Partizan lost in Barcelona, it was not that bad as result is showing, but it was hard to expect a win there
and now we are in a group of 6 teams fighting for one spot in play-in, Efes facing Asvel tonight, so expected to stay on 16 loses, while Bayern can knock Zalgiris and stay on the same level as well
that would probably send Zalgiris out of this fight

will be a tough call to pass into play-off, 5 games to go

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Terrible day for Serbian clubs in Euroleague. Crvena Zvezda had huge lead against Maccabi, but they wasted it, 4th quarter was just action in one direction. While Partizan, it already looked that that they're in the game when difference was just 4 points. But then Barca run away and didn't looked back, 4th quarter result 8:20.
Fenerbahche destroyed Valencia 118:88 and made new Euroleague record with scoring 24 3-pointers. 72 points from 3-pointers, crazy.
Olympiacos showed some elite defence and won in Greek derby against Panathinaikos 71:65.

Man, this Zvezda game was so weak. Such a nice lead and then a total collapse! In an away game this can happen, but at home this is unacceptable I think.
The passionate Serbian fans must have been pissed, haha.

I watched the Fener game, what an offensive explosion. We all know it's harder in the Euroleague to score than in the NBA but 118 points, in only 40 minutes, that's a statement.

At the moment we must consider Fener one of the strongest teams in Europe. They whooped Real Madrid in Madrid, destroyed @ Anadolu Efes and against Baskonia. Domestically they also have great performances lately, wiping the floor with their opponents, haha.
There are 5 more games to play, if they keep it up and Barcelona/Monaco have some slip ups they might go as high as 2nd place, which would give them home court until the final 4.

[LTU_btc]

Efes are still trying to jump into play in and they started double week with a win against Olympiacos and ejected Bartzokas. Now they're 1 win away from 10th place.
Partizan got important win against Baskonia which keeps them in 10th place. Zalgiris got easy win against Virtus, but IMO, it's difficult to consider them as serious contender for 10th place as they wasted too much already.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Efes are still trying to jump into play in and they started double week with a win against Olympiacos and ejected Bartzokas. Now they're 1 win away from 10th place.
Partizan got important win against Baskonia which keeps them in 10th place. Zalgiris got easy win against Virtus, but IMO, it's difficult to consider them as serious contender for 10th place as they wasted too much already.

It's never over until it's over. 
There are still a couple of games to play so getting into the 10th place or better is surely more than possible.
Recently they showed some improvement so I am sure Efes is one of the candidates to jump into the post season.

ALBA had a good fight but yet again fell apart in the 2nd half of the game.
I wonder why they almost never can get a whole 40min of solid play together. Upsetting Real would have been fun, haha. They were like a 12-14 point underdog but still had a 1 point lead midway through the 4th quarter .
In the 3rd they were leading by as many as 13 and then the ALBA effect came into play, going from +13 to -4 within 5-6 minutes, classic.

[CLS63]

Fenerbahçe completely dominated the game against Barcelona in the first half. The gap increased to like 25 points in the second quarter (40-15). The second quarter ended up with Fenerbahçe's 46-25 lead. As Barcelona won the first match played between them by 8 points it is very important for Fenerbahçe to win by at least 9 points tonight.

[LTU_btc]

Fenerbahçe completely dominated the game against Barcelona in the first half. The gap increased to like 25 points in the second quarter (40-15). The second quarter ended up with Fenerbahçe's 46-25 lead. As Barcelona won the first match played between them by 8 points it is very important for Fenerbahçe to win by at least 9 points tonight.

It looked that Fenerbahche will blow up Barca completely, but they had awful 3rd quarter which let Barcelona to return to the game. In 4th quarter they were solid again and achieved win by 14 points.
What really surprised me is Monaco loss to Olimpia Milano by 18 points at home. Olimpia is most inconsistent team in Euroleague, they can beat anyone and lose to anyone. But with this win they're still in race for 10th place.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Fenerbahçe completely dominated the game against Barcelona in the first half. The gap increased to like 25 points in the second quarter (40-15). The second quarter ended up with Fenerbahçe's 46-25 lead. As Barcelona won the first match played between them by 8 points it is very important for Fenerbahçe to win by at least 9 points tonight.

It looked that Fenerbahche will blow up Barca completely, but they had awful 3rd quarter which let Barcelona to return to the game. In 4th quarter they were solid again and achieved win by 14 points.
What really surprised me is Monaco loss to Olimpia Milano by 18 points at home. Olimpia is most inconsistent team in Euroleague, they can beat anyone and lose to anyone. But with this win they're still in race for 10th place.

In my opinion the Fener win was no surprise at all.
After the domination they showed in the past week Barcelona was just another stepping stone the easily got out of the way.
It's impressive what they are showing at the moment, even though of course they looked a bit troubled in the 3rd quarter. 

I thought about betting on them big   but then the game started so late in my time zone, that's why I didn't.
You could get odd as high as 1.5 for a Fenerbahce win, a true present I think.