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September 13, 2023, 09:17:07 AM
Last edit: September 13, 2023, 10:10:03 AM by Lavafreez
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hello, kingbj21

You are right i will do this right now.

I edit this just to say that i just made my complain to "askgambler" will let you know if i have any news
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September 13, 2023, 01:08:07 PM
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hello, kingbj21

You are right i will do this right now.

I edit this just to say that i just made my complain to "askgambler" will let you know if i have any news

Great news.

I have learned that, no point in accusing casinos over here. Most of the users will reply to your thread to increase their post count and always answer in a suspicious manner defending the casinos. I have solid evidence against duelbits for nerfing down my bonuses, what's the point. I ended up wasting my time, nothing progressive.
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September 13, 2023, 02:07:25 PM
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hello, kingbj21

You are right i will do this right now.

I edit this just to say that i just made my complain to "askgambler" will let you know if i have any news

You are in a hurry Obviously you do not have confidence that your account is clean You should have waited for Stake to come down here and announce the status of your case, in court it's called forum shopping looking for the right venue where he'll have a decision in his favor, just wait for the announcement Stake representative already announce they will address it, Askgambler could decline your case if he sees that you are using their platform for your interest and its an insult bringing the case when Stake rep announce that they are going to address the issue.

Don't jump right away the other one's case could be different from yours.


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September 13, 2023, 02:52:18 PM
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Hello, robelneo

First of all i was just following advice. However I do not see the issue in what i have done. Saying that i'am obviously "not clean" because i have asked help somewhere else is a dumb reflexion.

To answer you question of course i'am in a hurry to recover my money. We are talking about 100K.
I have been trying to recover my money for now more than 3 month. I do not believe what i have done will interfere with what stake will announce when they will come "Down here".

I also wan't to say that for Stake, my case is closed. That's what they told by email at least. So yeah i will try every recourse possible.
I will repeat this since you obviously did not read all of my messages. I never said that i never broke any of their "TOS" i said that i had the feeling that they are using this as an excuse to take disproportionate actions against me and steal my money.

"Obviously you do not have confidence that your account is clean" Basing your conclusions on such reflexions is completly random, and frustrating for me.

I have 100K locked into my Stake account.
Try to understand my position before making such statements.

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September 13, 2023, 07:37:00 PM
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Hello,

I deposited 50k on my account did an all-in in the roulette, won and when i tried to withdraw they locked and shut down my account.
They refused to let me withdraw and locked down my account.

After contacting support, they said i had broken their "TOS" and had multiple accounts. This turned out to be completly wrong, after a few weeks of investigatio, they admited that they where wrong and that i only had 1 account but still refused to let me withdrawn 🤯

They basicly robbed me 100k. This is Shameless behavior, worthy of a low-class casino.

Stake Username : Lavafreez
Where is the proof of your being scammed. You have not updated the deposit on here, no proof of the winning amount and more important thing that you have not posted any proof of your customer service and no proof of the amount as well as disable/locked account/fund.

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September 14, 2023, 06:25:09 AM
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hello, shasan

I invite you to go on page 1 and check. All the proof have been submited multiple times
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September 14, 2023, 07:31:14 AM
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Why bet so much money $50k on roulette?
Something fishy here...
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September 14, 2023, 08:41:04 AM
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Why bet so much money $50k on roulette?
Something fishy here...

It's his money, he can bet how much ever he wants. Will you ask the same question Drake? Go big or go home, it worked for him, why you dick heads blindly support the casinos. I don't get it.
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Be kind and do us a favor by entirely removing their quoted post from your post, please? I've report them to mods and they'll likely be nuked soon, or, at the very least, got their posts deleted. When that happen, your very own post will ironically contain the info that led gullible people to their trap.

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September 14, 2023, 10:24:46 AM
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Hello, robelneo

I have 100K locked into my Stake account.
Try to understand my position before making such statements.

I understand you, am I, not the guy who recommends that you upload all your evidence and quote it for everyone to see because what you are posting is all hearsay, am I not the guy who recommends the best action for your issue, is that how you treat people who just tries to help you on how you proceed and take action.


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September 14, 2023, 12:59:11 PM
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Hello, robelneo

First,
"After careful consideration of your case, AskGamblers Complaint Team reached to the conclusion that you must forward the dispute in front of the relevant Gambling Authority directly as they are the only competent authority to conduct proper investigation and reach to justified decision whether there was any breach of the regulatory requirements or not."

Askgamblers refused to help me so i do not regret the decision i took to contact them.
I'am greatful for the help you have provided to me.
However as i explained in my comment, i do not apreciate you trying to discreditate me because i looked for help somewhere else.

I hope you understand my point of view.

have a nice day
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September 14, 2023, 03:57:34 PM
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Of course, they did lock it. They wouldn't lock your account if you lost a million. That's a standard casino practice.
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September 14, 2023, 06:18:42 PM
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Of course, they did lock it. They wouldn't lock your account if you lost a million. That's a standard casino practice.
I have seen a lot of scamming site and saw those site disable withdraw and/or disavle account only if I win but until there is no winning and untill there is no withdrawal rrquest there is no ban or disable withdrawal or account. So, obviously you are right. You have told the untold words of a lots of gambler who fall on scamming.

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September 15, 2023, 08:47:07 AM
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A very strange situation.
Can any of the players who use Stake.com casino confirm which types of transactions are marked as "refunded" and which as "bonus received"? Why would the winning bet be called a bonus?

Are Stake representatives from this forum invited to this discussion?

That's what I was thinking as well.
I looks a little strange.
Normally when you are getting auto blocked you can't even withdraw, you would get a message that says "this is not possible right now" or something like that.
I was blocked myself in the past and it took a long time to get my account reopened, that's a lot of stress.

Anyway, cancelling the amount and then putting is back into the account as a bonus looks a little off, that's a strange notification!

Also, why would anyone bet 2 sides on roulette with 2 different accounts, this makes no sense. If the 0 hits you lose double and the house edge killed you. The odds of losing it all are the same as if you just use 1 account.
Instead of betting 50k here on red and 50k there on black you can make it in 1 account with 25k red / 25k black for 2 spins, even if that's stupid as well, haha.


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Good luck dealing with stake representatives. I have been trying to contact and make a reasonable convo with them for a huge while. I am here for support. Good luck in your case.

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September 15, 2023, 06:14:40 PM
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OP, my initial appearance here was to... tell someone to edit their post to prevent a scammer taking advantage of the situation. I only had a chance to read your case just now.

Do I understand correctly about two things as below:

1. Simplified the chronology was, you deposited, went all-in, you won, they confiscated the fund under multi-acc accusation, proven to be wrong, returned your fund, but block your withdrawal?

2. [you've acknowledge this yourself, so this is kinda just a formal confirmation] you're from France, which is a prohibited teritory and violation of such allows them to sanction your account?

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September 15, 2023, 07:52:51 PM
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Hello, holydarkness

1. Not exactly.
Simplified version is  :
a) i deposited 50K
b) i played and ended up doing an all-in at the roulette and winning
c) i tried to withdraw and refused to do so.
d) accused me of opposite betting and multi account
e) remooved the funds from my balance
f) i proved that i only had 1 account.
g) agreed with me
h) Still refuse to return my funds since i have broken their "TOS"

2. Yes i played from a banned region but this doesn't allow them to still my money.
They are currently in contract with French Streamers to promote their casino.

This only matter in the sens that i have no legal recourse against them. They perfectly know it and abuse it to steal my money. It has never been mention by them that beeing "French" was a breach of their "tos" during our exchange in emails.

I hope you are satisfied with my reply.

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September 16, 2023, 03:58:43 AM
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Hello, holydarkness

1. Not exactly.
Simplified version is  :
a) i deposited 50K
b) i played and ended up doing an all-in at the roulette and winning
c) i tried to withdraw and refused to do so.
d) accused me of opposite betting and multi account
e) remooved the funds from my balance
f) i proved that i only had 1 account.
g) agreed with me
h) Still refuse to return my funds since i have broken their "TOS"

2. Yes i played from a banned region but this doesn't allow them to still my money.
They are currently in contract with French Streamers to promote their casino.

This only matter in the sens that i have no legal recourse against them. They perfectly know it and abuse it to steal my money. It has never been mention by them that beeing "French" was a breach of their "tos" during our exchange in emails.

I hope you are satisfied with my reply.



Unlike some others, I have read this thread in full and have looked at your twitter feed as well. I can see that you've gone to great lengths to provide proof, and (to me) it seems like this is a legitimate claim.

I have seen tens of threads about Stake getting posted in this last month. It's obvious that Stunna is either abandoning/neglecting the casino, or is finally out of his depth...or, has put it into the wrong hands...or, he is abusing the sovereignty he very cleverly created for himself (I do not believe he is prosecutable by law, and if so, his financial and legal power is incredible from my research).

I wish you the best of luck in getting this unarguably giant sum back from this situation.
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September 16, 2023, 04:23:58 AM
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2. [you've acknowledge this yourself, so this is kinda just a formal confirmation] you're from France, which is a prohibited teritory and violation of such allows them to sanction your account?


Just my 2 cents on this matter about region and so on.
Being from a banned region can't be the cause here, 100% not.
I am from Germany ( also banned) , there are hundreds or thousands German players at stake ( you can see in the stake chat as well). If you registered a while ago it's ok to play from a "banned" region, you just won't be able to make a new account from these areas.
I know it sounds strange and doesn't make any sense but that's how stake handles this matter.

My account is verified with a German address, even though I live in Japan but that doesn't matter, and I never had any problem with that.


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