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With this amount and its current value, in my country, you would be considered a rich person because you can already own several nice houses and also several luxury cars. And what's even better is that if you are someone who is wise in investing, then you can live quite peacefully until you are old and get passive income from the investments you make, whether in the stock market or property, such as renting out a house. We don't know if anyone has ever bought an iPhone 4s with Bitcoin, and if he still cares about Bitcoin prices imagine what he is thinking right now. I know someone who sold 4BTC to buy an item and if he still kept the BTC until now then he could buy more items, but we should enjoy what we have achieved and don't need to feel regretful about the decision taken because However that time we didn't know that BTC could be what it is today because no one can predict the future precisely. If we are talking about selling bitcoin to buy an iPhone or any other item in the past, why don't we mention the person who spent $10k to buy 2 Pizzas? If he could have kept those bitcoins until now, what would have happened? In my opinion, we should stop talking about past transactions because without those transactions, bitcoin might not be able to perform as well as it does today. Instead of just always talking about the past without taking any action from now on, which would be even more meaningless, if we already know that bitcoin is very valuable and will be even more valuable in the future, then from now on let's not waste it.
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Just imagine after buying an iPhone with a large amount of BTC, then some months later, iPhone 16 was produced. Then you keep planning to buy that one with another BTC. That means you will use all your BTC to buy an iPhone.
That is a very unlikely situation for the majority of people: many bitcoiners are also hodlers, and that doesn't necessarily mean that your are going to spend 0 crypto, if you need a new smartphone there is nothing wrong with it; buying a new model every single year is a totally different thing. I don't know about you, but I know very few people who change their smartphone every year. We have different lifestyles and some people are not interested in following the smartphone trend, many bitcoiners can afford an iphone 15 pro even though the price is 2 times higher but they don't use a cent of bitcoin to divert to non-investment except for investment needs in property, gold, shares and others for the purpose of profit opportunities. If someone uses bitcoin to buy other items such as an iPhone or other non-investment items, he or she has reduced the amount of investment assets for lifestyle needs but the price of the smartphone will fall every year. Even though they have achieved financial freedom, they can realize their lifestyle needs of buying a new iPhone without using Bitcoin investment because the investment funds have been set for a profitability strategy, it is possible that in the future when the price of Bitcoin has increased, the accumulated price of the iPhone will be 0.002 BTC. It's not about the smartphone trend, it's simply that there is a huge difference between buying a smartphone every 1-2 years and 4-5. At this point everybody in the world has a smartphone, is not something that we can renounce. Of course there are several brands, several prices, everyone can find what suits him the best. I like Apple products because they last a lot, I'm seriously considering buying the new iPhone because I'm still using a 2016 iPhone 7 (just to give an idea of ow long they last) and I can update it to the new iOS, also many apps run a little slow and sometimes also when watching a video there is some lag, but besides that it's impressive because it's 7 years old
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Prices in each country vary greatly. It's true, it's not about the product. From a number of price lists for each iPhone product that must be spent to get one iPhone unit, I find it difficult to spend a certain amount of BTC because there are still Android smartphones with pretty good security such as the latest Samsung smartphones if the function of a smartphone is only for communication, social media and for stylish. Using a Samsung Android smartphone is also very easy.
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It is irrational to buy Bitcoin, a store of value, and an iPhone, a product whose value decreases with use. This is good data for comparison. It is a good data showing that Bitcoin has become the center of our lives in a very short time. If I remember correctly, 2011 was a period when Bitcoin was almost unknown, and with the iPhone 4s, it took phone technology to a different stage.
If i had Bitcoin in those years, i would definitely have bought an iPhone but that's just a case of being short sighted. I can't blame anyone for that. As time passed, Bitcoin awareness increased and the belief in Bitcoin grew stronger day by day. So now you should never buy anything that will not create value with Bitcoin.
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Recently, Apple officially launched iPhone 15 with many improvements and new features. While the larger version iPhone 15 Plus starts at $899. iPhone 15 Pro will be priced at $999, while the larger version iPhone 15 Pro Max will be priced at $1199, iPhone models will be available for pre-sale on sep 15. still a good feeling for me that my first iphone4s purchased back then did not used Bitcoin , instead my December bonus from my first Job , because of does , maybe this will be my biggest frustration in life. 162 bitcoin for 10-13 years, , Unfortunately, i had iphone 5 but never had so much bitcoins. I was too young at that times
Which is the actual point of the topic. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) If you bought 53 Bitcoins instead of your iPhone 5, you could buy 100 iPhones right now and you would still have more Bitcoins left to enjoy the next bull cycle. You might be having shower-thoughts like, "Is it too late"? I believe NOT. 21,000,000 Bitcoins - Unlimited Fiat, just keep working/saving, then Buy the DIP and HODL. how we all wish that we have read this thread back those year and believe bitcoin will reach that level same as iphone be having iphone15 version from apple lol. I even doubt everyone, including me, what is the certainty that we would have bought bitcoin instead of an iPhone at that time if we did not know its value in the future? That's why many people didn't invest in bitcoin back then, at that time bitcoin was too risky to trust. We only regret when looking back at the past but never had the courage to become a pioneer and take risks. And if we talk about opportunities in life, we have even given up a lot of things, not just bitcoin. actually most of our posts here mate are just a way to express our bad feeling for not investing in Bitcoin back in the days when we first hear it.. and yes, even if we don;t know about Bitcoin back then yet i will not use mu bitcoin to buy Iphone as I mostly use my credit card in buying mobile or laptop lol.
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This is not an invitation to make a purchase, but observing people queuing up to get their hands on an iPhone serves as evidence that Apple hasn't lost its loyal customers, even though the prices it commands may seem high to some of us. >> iPhone Series 15 sales begin in India, buyers queue up since 4am at Apple stores >> Apple Stores worldwide — including China — are packed for iPhone 15Just imagine after buying an iPhone with a large amount of BTC, then some months later, iPhone 16 was produced. Then you keep planning to buy that one with another BTC. That means you will use all your BTC to buy an iPhone.
The swiftest calculation places it at 12 months, as Apple traditionally unveils its new gadgets in September each year. As for additional variants like the iPhone SE, certainty eludes us. However, let's assume you're purchasing the latest iPhone model for a 2-year period. This means that if the iPhone's price tag is $1000, you should allocate at least $42 each month to ensure that your iPhone doesn't become a financial burden. In my opinion, the iPhone 16 is likely to debut next year, but support for the iPhone 15 will undoubtedly extend for 2 or 3 more years.
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Every Apple product released is not only oriented towards the beauty of the hardware, but also the software. The iPhone is also considered more modern and implements new technological advances in each generation of its products. Supported by an elegant and unique design so that it becomes a special attraction for customers. One of the reasons many people want to compete to buy an iPhone is because of prestige and wanting to get recognition that Apple product users look more classy than other smartphone users, thus making iPhone users more confident.
My thinking is more about managing finances rather than spending them on buying things that don't add value when selling them. Currently buying Bitcoin is much better than buying an iPhone, investing in Bitcoin is more profitable than buying an iPhone, I can still live even if I don't wear branded goods.
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Every Apple product released is not only oriented towards the beauty of the hardware, but also the software. The iPhone is also considered more modern and implements new technological advances in each generation of its products. Supported by an elegant and unique design so that it becomes a special attraction for customers. One of the reasons many people want to compete to buy an iPhone is because of prestige and wanting to get recognition that Apple product users look more classy than other smartphone users, thus making iPhone users more confident.
My thinking is more about managing finances rather than spending them on buying things that don't add value when selling them. Currently buying Bitcoin is much better than buying an iPhone, investing in Bitcoin is more profitable than buying an iPhone, I can still live even if I don't wear branded goods.
I agree with you. Although the new iPhone is eye-catchy and has really nice features that are not present from the previous ones, I think I will surely pass on this new release. Despite being really into tech and a big fan of Apple products, the price for this new release is way out of my comfort zone when it comes to spending for something I don't generally need (my current phone is still up to date and is still working perfectly). Moreover, it is true that this product will not give me or produce any profit for me even if I decide to sell it one day, instead I'll just focus on my investment that will one day give me profit that I need. Hence, for now, it is a definite pass for me.
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September 22, 2023, 02:53:04 PM |
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Every Apple product released is not only oriented towards the beauty of the hardware, but also the software. The iPhone is also considered more modern and implements new technological advances in each generation of its products. Supported by an elegant and unique design so that it becomes a special attraction for customers. One of the reasons many people want to compete to buy an iPhone is because of prestige and wanting to get recognition that Apple product users look more classy than other smartphone users, thus making iPhone users more confident.
My thinking is more about managing finances rather than spending them on buying things that don't add value when selling them. Currently buying Bitcoin is much better than buying an iPhone, investing in Bitcoin is more profitable than buying an iPhone, I can still live even if I don't wear branded goods.
I agree with you. Although the new iPhone is eye-catchy and has really nice features that are not present from the previous ones, I think I will surely pass on this new release. Despite being really into tech and a big fan of Apple products, the price for this new release is way out of my comfort zone when it comes to spending for something I don't generally need (my current phone is still up to date and is still working perfectly). Moreover, it is true that this product will not give me or produce any profit for me even if I decide to sell it one day, instead I'll just focus on my investment that will one day give me profit that I need. Hence, for now, it is a definite pass for me. Many people might say that iPhone just want to have more money from their customers, but let's not forget the innovation and upgrade which we people always trying to enhance for every person's convenience. Whenever there's a new released model we can say it might looked alike from the previous and has a little new features that could be considered as innovative. Still upgrade is an upgrade, so people would still want the new ones. But it would be too impractical to buy a cellphone that are too pricey when you still have a phone that are still working. Just wait more few months or years, for sure it would be cheap and there's another new release phone.
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That illustration is all about why you don't want to spend your Bitcoin on things that could be bought fiat, to show that the things you wanted in life only depreciate, that investment is more important than being a social climber even when you can't afford but always choose to buy expensive things to show off. It also shows that fiat is very prone to inflation while Bitcoin is not.
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September 22, 2023, 03:34:29 PM |
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While the larger version iPhone 15 Plus starts at $899. iPhone 15 Pro will be priced at $999, while the larger version iPhone 15 Pro Max will be priced at $1199, iPhone models will be available for pre-sale on sep 15. i never thought about buying an iphone, because for $2500 it is worth it and if i buy an iphone at the end of september i will lose my btc and i will miss the upcoming bull run and conversely, if I buy an iPhone, I will not get long-term benefits, only luxury and satisfaction
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The bigger question are..... How does the person with the iPhone 4s feel now.... after they bought it for 162 BTC? Those bitcoins are now valued at $4 192 000 at todays price of $25 870 per bitcoin. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) This is the reason why most people are hoarding their coins and using it as an investment option and not as a Currency. Would you spend your bitcoins buying an expensive phone...and after a few years, finding out that it would have been worth 800 times more.. than what it was ..when you bought the phone? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It really depends on the person because there was Laszlo Hanyecz who spent 10k BTC for a pizza and yet don't regret it. So we might never know. May be the guy who bought 4s for 162 BTC might be feeling the same thing. If we all start comparing our purchases with current dollar price of bitcoin then most of us will be feeling sad about it. Instead, we all should be feeling happy that we are contributing to the bitcoin network. Holding BTC is not bad but we shouldn't feel bad if we have used it for any payments.
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Recently, Apple officially launched iPhone 15 with many improvements and new features.
Generally, people tend to prefer using branded items like Apple phones. However, my stance is a bit different. My argument is, let's say you have a need for something, and that need can be met through two different paths. One is the expensive route, and the other is the affordable one, since both serve the same purpose. So my innocent question is, can an iPhone 15, which fulfills your need, do something that an iPhone 14 or another Android can't? If it can't, then why spend on branded items when both the iPhone 15 and the iPhone 14 have minimal changes in terms of new features? In my opinion, spending on them without a valid reason is a waste. On the other hand, investing in valuable assets like Bitcoin is a sensible choice. The iPhone series releases every year, and they are becoming more expensive over time with just one additional feature. Meanwhile, Bitcoin, which is currently available at a certain price, may yield a considerable return in the future and provide profits, whereas an The iPhone cannot return its purchase price. So now, you should ponder which option is better and which one is more likely to result in losses.
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