Tim Gurner wants Unemployment to increase. Employers have lost their power.

[Davidvictorson]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.

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[jrrsparkles]

Australian Real estate tycoon.

But the employers already hammered mass layoffs post covid from Google, Facebook, Twitter/X and everyone else the reasons are pretty simple there is no need for the employees and the employers will not carry a dead burden no matter what so unless the employees provide something profitable for the employers.

Governments will not hurt rich people even if they make such calls as what happened here, which again proves money controls everything and the decentralized monetary system such as Bitcoin paves the way for an escape from it.

[EarnOnVictor]

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Well, this is Tim Gurner's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs even if it's so dumb, selfish and foolish like this guy just spat out now. I wish the reverse is the case where he's the employee, maybe he will wish for such again.

Nothing has a monopoly forever, and the market will always drag itself between more jobs and fewer jobs in a sane economy. Everyone is free to jump from one to the other during surplus and even upgrade their terms as either employee or employer dominates in the workforce.

[arallmuus]

Well, this is Tim Gurner's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs even if it's so dumb, selfish and foolish like this guy just spat out now.

His opinion actually make sense. Some employee are demanding too much right now and that is pretty weird because there is a set of rules that you need to follow as an employee. There will be always alot more of employee compared to the employer so instead of just submitting to all these silly request and whatosoever, employer could just cut them off then hire another person that is willing to do the job right

Its pretty simple actually, if you are not happy with the terms then you leave and find another that suits you

[Gyfts]

Well, this is Tim Gurner's opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs even if it's so dumb, selfish and foolish like this guy just spat out now.

His opinion actually make sense. Some employee are demanding too much right now and that is pretty weird because there is a set of rules that you need to follow as an employee. There will be always alot more of empl to the employer so instead of just submitting to all these silly request and whatosoever, employer could just cut them off then hire another person that is willing to do the job right

That's normally how the private sector operates, except Tim Gurner wants employers to collude with one another to drive unemployment artificially high, thereby reducing market wages of everyone participating in the labor market. His opinion is corporatist jabber.

Employees shouldn't monopolize the labor market to artificially raise wages nor should employers do the same with job openings.

[Gozie51]

He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

Unfortunately he can't do anything about the new online job revolution. The thread (trend) has already started with the COVID-19 pandemic that was a major factor for it. Gone are those days when sack from a job caused panic but now, the internet is there to embrace such person.

He should not instigate others to follow his myopic sentiment.

[Ndabagi01]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers.

Tim Gurner must be speaking from a privately owned sector perspective, I don't believe companies have the authority to dictate work for their employees in a public sector setting. This only occurs in the private sector. I agree with him on how employers now misuse and always want to take control or advantage of the privileges they have while engaged to work, but generalising it to affect other employers is not what I want to agree on. You are the boss of your own firm; you make the rules; they follow, they break the rules; you fire them and hire fresh staff.

[Fortify]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.

You understand that some people just like to spread controversy because they have no other way of getting anyone to interact with them? You're basically doing advertising for this loser, who would otherwise disappear into the noise and occupy his tiny little space in the universe where he could have a power trip over his own employees. He sounds like a lousy person to walk for and is most likely venting because of high staff turnover in his own company. Instead of doing a bit of self reflection, he has decided that the employees are the problem and not his management style. They do say a large amount of people with psychopathic tendencies end up in the highest positions and maybe he is an example of this.

[hatshepsut93]

So when these guys make millions/billions they love free market, but when the free market results in something they don't like, like the shortage of workers, then they cry like babies and want to fix it. And the hate of working from home is completely delusional, they are not even trying to hide that they treat their workers as a resource to be squeezed and discarded. So why should the workers shouldn't stand their ground, especially if they get more bargaining power? Out of sympathy for a rich guy who could only afford 1 yacht this year instead of 3?

[MusaMohamed]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers.

Employees have human instinct and they are self fish when they can. They do not care about employers and they should know that employers must maximize profit for their business operation so that lazy employees are at bottom of employer's choice. The pandemic actually gives employees great opportunities to work remotely, work from home but refuse to return to offices when pandemic is almost over and life is back to normal is unacceptable.

No doubt that without face to face interactions, working is less effective in most of companies and employees must know that.

He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

The world will return to normality soon but it takes time to erase consequences of the pandemic and lockdowns, quarantines months ago.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

This is ridiculous. Unemployment is the main problem in 3rd world countries and a major problem in Western countries. This guy sounds like he wants to buy the employees with the salary and make them do whatever his company wants. I live in a country where a person works as a driver, but the employer forces him to do grocery shopping, cleaning the house and other things as well. The driver does not have other options except to do what his boss asks him to do. Because he is afraid of losing his job and thousands of people are waiting for this position.

I won't work for people who want to use their employees in such ways. I have worked with international companies where a European guy was the boss. He was too humble and always tended to apologize if it was his mistake. I cannot imagine any of my local employers saying sorry to their employees for their mistakes.

[Yogee]

[....]He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

The pandemic actually gave more access to a variety of options for those working from home. People have realized that they don't have to stick with their former employers when someone else across the country is willing to pay him more for his services while staying at home. I'm pretty sure Tim knows this.

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There will be always alot more of employee compared to the employer so instead of just submitting to all these silly request and whatosoever, employer could just cut them off then hire another person that is willing to do the job right

They could do that but they can't easily replace skill set and experience.

[Lida93]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers.

Employees have human instinct and they are self fish when they can. They do not care about employers and they should know that employers must maximize profit for their business operation so that lazy employees are at bottom of employer's choice. The pandemic actually gives employees great opportunities to work remotely, work from home but refuse to return to offices when pandemic is almost over and life is back to normal is unacceptable.

No doubt that without face to face interactions, working is less effective in most of companies and employees must know that.

Have you taken a second thought to ponder that just maybe the fall short in maximization of profit could be arising from the management at the top due to poor managerial decisions? There's much to consider on both sides, therefore laying off an entire staffs and employing new won't make that much difference when the management haven't taking a sober reflection on their on path in whatever downturn the company might be facing.

There certain worker's in a company that when you lose their kind of unique expertise it take you if not +5 to get someone to fill their space perfectly. Hope he the employer/company can cope with losing such staff's going by his idea of mass sack?

Todd Boehly   the new owner of Chelsea football club  is a simple example, instantly sacking of all old staffs to employ new staffs and since then the resultant effect of that action on the club results hasn't been the same despite billions spent on players.

He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

The world will return to normality soon but it takes time to erase consequences of the pandemic and lockdowns, quarantines months ago.

And you think that the world returning back to normalcy after the effect of the covid-19 global pandemic is by employers laying off their entire workers based on the excuse that the employees are gaining or have gained much power? 
He's only heading for his company's doom as it's only an employee that doesn't know his worth would be begging for job.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Unfortunately he can't do anything about the new online job revolution. The thread has already started with the COVID-19 pandemic that was a major factor for it. Gone are those days when sack from a job caused panic but now, the internet is there to embrace such person.

He should not instigate others to follow his myopic sentiment.

But this revolution you are talking about does not apply to everyone. There are still waiters and factory workers whose working conditions are like those of the 20th century. More and more people are able to work online, or at least generate extra income from the internet, and that's a power they didn't have in the 20th century, let alone further back.

Anyway, I think he's partly right that with COVID people were sent home and paid not to work. This meant a change that is now returning to the previous normality, little by little, but what he says about the fact that we need to see 50% unemployment for this to be fixed is too exaggerated. Neither one thing nor the other, neither paying people not to work nor mass unemployment to make them accept slave-like conditions, which is what he would like.

[dothebeats]

Although Tim Gurner has a point that there are cases when employees are demanding too much and are taking so much authority from their employers, this is just a ridiculous outlook, especially from a developing country's perspective. Unemployment is one of the biggest problems developing countries are facing and it contributes to a lot more pressing matters that we face. Moreover, it will be close to impossible (especially right now) to take control of the rising quantity of work-from-home employees as it has flooded the industry when COVID-19 hits. If he wants to take back the power he feels like employers are losing to their employees I'm sure there are other ways to do so than engrave fear of unemployment to others. This honestly just feels like an idea from a privilege individual (which I don't doubt that he is).

[slapper]

Tim Gurner's point of view is a little hard for me to understand. advocating for higher unemployment as a way to take control? That's a pretty unusual way to make money. I've always thought that companies and workers should work together to make a better whole. Respect for each other comes first. Yes, things have changed with online work, but I think it's a bit too much to say that the employee has more power than the boss. Shouldn't we cheer for worker freedom instead of wanting a subservient environment? Still, it's interesting that these points of view keep coming up in the time after the pandemic. They make us think about how the balance of power at work is always changing

[Gozie51]

Unfortunately he can't do anything about the new online job revolution. The thread has already started with the COVID-19 pandemic that was a major factor for it. Gone are those days when sack from a job caused panic but now, the internet is there to embrace such person.

He should not instigate others to follow his myopic sentiment.

But this revolution you are talking about does not apply to everyone. There are still waiters and factory workers whose working conditions are like those of the 20th century. More and more people are able to work online, or at least generate extra income from the internet, and that's a power they didn't have in the 20th century, let alone further back.

To a greater extent I think we are saying the same thing. If I'm not mistaken, you are corroborating my views on the internet revolution on job creation which is witnessed during the COVID-19 work from home sager. So you will be surprised that if such factory workers lose their job or resign from it, they won't find it very difficult to hook up with opportunities online if they are internet compliance or are willing to learn the requirements of using a smart phone or computer/laptop. The internet has given more opportunity of assumption of unemployed people, the internet has driven people into hidden talents they never knew, like different video on YouTube teaching on different life experience, comedy skits, health talks, relationship and marriage etc.

[davis196]

I kinda understand his logic and his point of view, but I don't understand why does he have to share his thoughts publicly.
If he was a member of the working class, such statements would probably make him angry.  More power to the people and less power to the rich elite is actually something good. The employers are still making lots of money(even after the pandemic and the "work from home" trend). What is he complaining about? I don't really think that the employers need "more power". They have enough power and more than enough money.

[Queentoshi]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

Sadly, this is just how some people who have occupied positions of power often think. It can corrupt just as it this CEO has been corrupted in thinking and opinion because he has been in a position where he dictates the employment and unemployment status of people. CEOs with this kind of thinking often overuse their staff and are not usually happy when they see that their staffs are doing well. People have often said that there are some CEO's who are not happy about the progress of their staffs, this Tim Gurner is an example of this.

[rat03gopoh]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers.

Or conversely, employers with opinions like this are actual dictators who support a system of slavery. They think they can still stick to the old rule of "money is power". The Covid pandemic has actually helped employees to remove the shackles of dictation from previous bosses and opened up opportunities to find better economic stability variables. Covid is the new economic order.