Tim Gurner wants Unemployment to increase. Employers have lost their power.

[bitgolden]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

This summary above doesn't do justice. Watch the short clip where he said this here and come back to drop your comments.

I would guess that this could be the approach for employers, but employees may not give way, and that's the important difference. When unemployment increases a lot, that still gives a lot of power to unemployed people. Because if unemployment went up, that means there are jobs that are not getting done as well, and you need to increase the salary to find people if everyone rejects it.

There is a good amount of movement going around where people just quit their jobs and do not accept terrible job offers no matter what happens, they rather collect welfare check than be the soldier for an employer. Unemployment increasing will not change that, those already super rich billionaires will have hard time finding workers.

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[justdimin]

I know employers always say that there are other people willing to take up the job of their employees as soon as they are fired for incompetence or not meeting up some productivity metrics. There is already unemployment and if he or any other CEO think that their staff are not being productive enough, they can easily find another person willing to do the same work since they pay what the work is worth. Consequently, if their staff is not being productive and the CEOs aren't able to find any person to replace those workers, then it means that they simply aren't paying what his work is worth, and people will choose other better options.

And that is precisely the problem, we are seeing that many companies are trying to force people back to the office as in that way they can keep a very tight control of their employees, and people do not want that, however even when threatened they will be fired people are simply deciding to quit instead of going back to the office, this tells us the conditions are so bad at the office people are deciding to become unemployed or to start their own business, and when the biggest threat companies have has no effect on their employees, then they should realize they no longer hold the power they had before the pandemic.

Maybe some employees who truly care for their job, or afraid that they can't get a job immediately will obey those tight rules but there are some won't. It was still a wrong practice for the employers and they can get reported for this.

I am only worried for those who will lose their jobs after. Deciding to become unemployed sounds like an awful decision even though you still have the resources to survived because they can still run out someday. Will wait for that moment to happen? The pandemic on the other hand have changed a lot of lives. Some companies got weaker, some didn't survive, while some found an opportunity during this period.

[Gallar]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.
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Personally, I think such statements are completely inappropriate. Even though basically he is a person who has power over the company he owns. But since he has made a statement like that, I think it will be controversial. Because, even though the workers really need money through the job opportunities opened by their companies. However, if the boss or CEO expresses an opinion like that, I am sure the workers will think a little about joining and working for the company. In fact, he said, workers had to beg to get jobs at his company. I think this will hurt the hearts of workers who are looking for work a little. So in my opinion the CEO's actions were very selfish and demeaning to every worker there.

Although it cannot be denied that sometimes there are workers who make demands or desires so that the company where they work can fulfill all their wishes. But such cases, as far as I know, are very rare. Because I am sure, the majority of workers in this world must have good ethics and be humble in carrying out their work. Because this will provide plus points throughout his career.

And actually, if you want to find a solution to the problem of workers who are always demanding, in my personal opinion it is enough to just fire the workers who are demanding. So don't be complicated, let alone make statements like that. Because in my personal opinion, workers and company owners are components that need each other. So company owners should not make statements that could cause controversy among workers. Apart from that, workers must also be aware that they are workers, so that they do not carry out strange actions at work. So that the company is comfortable with its workers, and makes a profit and the workers can also be comfortable with their work and can get a steady income every month.

[naira]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

That's just the ramblings and selfishness of a company that would like to think that its power would exist without the contributions of others. So don't get your hopes up about getting a job in a company like this. In the world of work, regulations must be balanced and mutually protect workers' rights. The positions of company leaders and workers must complement each other in order to achieve goals. If you simply want to implement slavery in today's world of work, you risk being abandoned and forced into bankruptcy. Currently labor protection laws are set to eliminate the principle of gaps like this. As development progresses, people begin to be creative and realize that if they want to work according to rules that protect individual rights, then the involvement of company leaders must be in synergy with employees, namely creating mutually beneficial cooperation.

[slapper]

I know employers always say that there are other people willing to take up the job of their employees as soon as they are fired for incompetence or not meeting up some productivity metrics. There is already unemployment and if he or any other CEO think that their staff are not being productive enough, they can easily find another person willing to do the same work since they pay what the work is worth. Consequently, if their staff is not being productive and the CEOs aren't able to find any person to replace those workers, then it means that they simply aren't paying what his work is worth, and people will choose other better options.

And that is precisely the problem, we are seeing that many companies are trying to force people back to the office as in that way they can keep a very tight control of their employees, and people do not want that, however even when threatened they will be fired people are simply deciding to quit instead of going back to the office, this tells us the conditions are so bad at the office people are deciding to become unemployed or to start their own business, and when the biggest threat companies have has no effect on their employees, then they should realize they no longer hold the power they had before the pandemic.

Maybe some employees who truly care for their job, or afraid that they can't get a job immediately will obey those tight rules but there are some won't. It was still a wrong practice for the employers and they can get reported for this.

I am only worried for those who will lose their jobs after. Deciding to become unemployed sounds like an awful decision even though you still have the resources to survived because they can still run out someday. Will wait for that moment to happen? The pandemic on the other hand have changed a lot of lives. Some companies got weaker, some didn't survive, while some found an opportunity during this period.

You mean to say that companies with strict rules are taking advantage of their workers, right? Fuck it. They think they can control their workers by making them afraid, which is especially useful now that the economy is so bad. It's a clear attempt to gain power

And reporting them? Most definitely. It is disgusting to take advantage of workers because they want to keep their jobs. The pandemic, though? What a perfect excuse for these corporate sharks. Some companies really did have a hard time, but others saw this as a great chance to get a better handle on their employees. It is both sneaky and evil

This pandemic showed many companies what they really were like. And those who let their workers go instead of changing and adapting? Well, it shows how strict and short-sighted they are. A modern economy requires adaptability and humanity, not authoritarianism

[so98nn]

Eh, somehow I am not convinced with what he is saying. From where does he get the idea that an employee can now tell the employer what he needs and what he doesn't? The corporate world will never bend its knees in front of the employee. Let us make one thing really clear about jobs. If there is Anthony who doesn't accept an offer of a $100 per hour job then there is always another Tim who is willing to do the same job at the payroll of $80 per hour. That is the world around here, and that many variety of peeps already exists. In my opinion, his assumption is based on the society where he lives or whatever his company's situation might be.

But it's never ever gonna be the other way around. There are so many jobless out there that if anything comes their way, they are going to accept that offer no matter what. Employers are always in power, they will always find a way to fund their pockets no matter what.

[Peanutswar]

During the pre-pandemic era, the WHO restricted people from going outside, which is why some of the company must need to push their WFH setup to make their company still continue during this pandemic and somehow its benefits to the people keep it working but again, not all of the people are suitable with this reason why they get unemployed and in this case many people suffer and also accepts any kind of job just to make sure they can survive during this pandemic. Right now we are in the post-pandemic some of the companies and organizations resumes to their office or RTO. Still the employer have the power to manage their employees unless they don't really care and reason of suffering with their company.

[barisbilgili]

Tim Gurner, the CEO of the Gurner Group, wants unemployment to increase so that people can be subservient to their employers as it used to be. He believes that since the pandemic gave way to working from home, employees now how too much power and have even go as far as s dictating the terms of employment to their employers. He feels that employers have lost their power and that the only way for them to get back their powers over their employees and show to them whose boss is if the unemployment rate increases and people have to literally beg to have their or keep their jobs.

That's just the ramblings and selfishness of a company that would like to think that its power would exist without the contributions of others. So don't get your hopes up about getting a job in a company like this. In the world of work, regulations must be balanced and mutually protect workers' rights. The positions of company leaders and workers must complement each other in order to achieve goals. If you simply want to implement slavery in today's world of work, you risk being abandoned and forced into bankruptcy. Currently labor protection laws are set to eliminate the principle of gaps like this. As development progresses, people begin to be creative and realize that if they want to work according to rules that protect individual rights, then the involvement of company leaders must be in synergy with employees, namely creating mutually beneficial cooperation.

Having a balance and mutually protecting workers' rights is a way for companies to keep their employees feeling comfortable in doing their work so that their company achieves their success. If there are still companies that use the current slavery system, of course the company has violated the existing rules and the workers too would not want to work for that company. Currently people certainly know their rights to work and if they do work that is not in accordance with what is not their responsibility, of course no one wants to work in that place because that place does not protect their workers' rights.

[abel1337]

It's just that it is proven that works aren't that much limited on the employees local area nowadays. The work from home setup has proved that it is effective even if your client or employer is on another part of the world, employees have an additional options on who or what kind of work do they want to enter. It is not like before where people need to travel away from their local area to the business district just to get a well paying job. I believe that work from setup is effective, depending on the job of course. As long as the employee is responsible and the employer is supportive, the job will done right. Actually there are companies that had retained the work from home setup that had been utilized since the pandemic.

It's not that employers lost their power, employees just have other options.

[South Park]

It's just that it is proven that works aren't that much limited on the employees local area nowadays. The work from home setup has proved that it is effective even if your client or employer is on another part of the world, employees have an additional options on who or what kind of work do they want to enter. It is not like before where people need to travel away from their local area to the business district just to get a well paying job. I believe that work from setup is effective, depending on the job of course. As long as the employee is responsible and the employer is supportive, the job will done right. Actually there are companies that had retained the work from home setup that had been utilized since the pandemic.

It's not that employers lost their power, employees just have other options.

But it is precisely that increase on options employees have which is causing employers to lose a part of their power, the truth is if it was up to the employers they will pay you nothing for your work, but no one is crazy enough to accept those terms so they have to offer something in return, but what they offer is so small and with so many strings attached that people are simply turning their backs to them and finding other ways to make money, and this is what it is driving them crazy.

[mvdheuvel1983]

Tim Gurner is not alone in this. We have CEOs all over the counties of the world with just the same mindset about their employees. This is the reason why I encourage self-employment or the type where you are not committed to just one organization. And yes, these organizations can achieve their organizational dreams and goals without these types of staff. Employees should not be committed to an organization where the CEO is bent on making himself "fatter" while the employees labour their life's, health, happiness, relationships , dreams and career away.

[South Park]

Tim Gurner is not alone in this. We have CEOs all over the counties of the world with just the same mindset about their employees. This is the reason why I encourage self-employment or the type where you are not committed to just one organization. And yes, these organizations can achieve their organizational dreams and goals without these types of staff. Employees should not be committed to an organization where the CEO is bent on making himself "fatter" while the employees labour their life's, health, happiness, relationships , dreams and career away.

And I encourage this as well, a CEO is looking primarily after themselves and the company they are managing and not their employees, so if you join one of those large companies then they are going to try to extract all what they can out of you while paying you the lowest amount of money possible, but if instead you work on your own then you can work as hard as you want and you will get to preserve all of those profits for yourself, and you will not have to worry about being fired as no one can do it as you are now your own boss.