The comment layout is awful here

[tread93]

Honestly can we make a push to bundle comments directed towards a certain side convo between users within a certain topic to stack directly underneath with a collapsible drop down that doesn't move the comments all the way to the last page? I feel like this system is due for an upgrade and could use some more social media like elements. ...



Update:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466990.0

After reading the responses to my last post in this section I realize that there is merit to the current order of things here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466736.msg62842780#msg62842780

Keeping it OG is very important, while other changes suggested by others could perhaps seem necessary my recent suggestion is far from one that should ever be implemented. I realized how ridiculous I sounded after I went back and read what I wrote.

One thing I realized after the fact is that the current comment layout helps to foster cumulative responses taking eveything said into account. If you want to keep up with this platform you have to be invested and sort through all of the commentary, this is something that is unique and also makes things more fun.

Posts that pop up like social media with an algorithm are engineered as such exactly to monetize, the organic posting nature of this forum is so unique it would be a shame and probably cause people to leave because nobody likes change.

Don't change a thing with BTalk  

[mk4]

You're pretty much describing Twitter and/or Reddit. If you prefer that layout, you can simply move to there. This old-style forum layout is one of the reasons why a lot of people are here so it'd be counter-intuitive to change it.

(Assuming Theymos is planning on changing anything in the first place lol.)

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I don't see it as awful at all but maybe it's because I don't comment on Twitter or Reddit.

If you prefer that layout, you can simply move to there. This old-style forum layout is one of the reasons why a lot of people are here so it'd be counter-intuitive to change it.

I agree.

(Assuming Theymos is planning on changing anything in the first place lol.)

You can never know what's going through his mind, but I'd bet he's not even thinking about making such a change.

[Upgrade00]

This will be hectic to implement here on bitcointalk. In discussions there are always multiple side conversations where one user can quote 2 or more users at a particular time, and a collapsible dropdown button will fail to capture the entire thread of discussion.

The current layout is also not terrible, it's just a matter ofbwhat you frequent. I am mostly on the forum, so when I visit Reddit which is sparingly I struggle to go with the flow of discussions there and end up not going further than the first lump of replies, same happens on Twitter to (except it's a really interesting conversation).

I feel like this system is due for an upgrade and could use some more social media like elements. ...

We definitely don't need more social media like elements.

[hugeblack]

I don't think what you are looking for is available in the latest version of SMF ---> https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF/milestones

since we are talking about changes in the front-end, I think it is possible to create a UserScript to display the quoted responses under each other, but still with the same current theme, but with the same effect as what happens in Reddit.

Although I like how threads are displayed on Twitter and/or Reddit, discussions can be followed here.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

SMF patches to ignore users but they only satisfy part of OP demands.

Skipping to the next/previous post within a topic by the same author (SMF patch)

Member filtering widget.

[LoyceV]

You're pretty much describing Twitter and/or Reddit.

It sounds a lot like OP wants an algorithm to decide what he gets to read. That's great for maximizing advertising revenue on social media, it's terrible for the content itself.

[NotATether]

You're pretty much describing Twitter and/or Reddit.

It sounds a lot like OP wants an algorithm to decide what he gets to read. That's great for maximizing advertising revenue on social media, it's terrible for the content itself.

Such an algorithm already exists her, it's called "Show unread posts since last visit".

A quick and dirty way for a user to put this into action is to place all the topics they don't like on ignore, and all the boards they are not interested in reading on ignore as well (which will automatically ignore all topics in that board), and then that feed will be full of topics you actually want to read.

[LoyceV]

place all the topics they don't like on ignore

How? I don't think that's possible (but I'd like to have this feature).

[NotATether]

place all the topics they don't like on ignore

How? I don't think that's possible (but I'd like to have this feature).

Oh... I just remembered that the topics that appear ignored are because the person who created them is on the ignore list, not the topic itself. But maybe it is possible somehow to implement a patch in SMF that places a button next to each topic on the far right that you can click on to toggle ignore/unignore status (@PowerGlove?) and combine that with the list of ignored users to get the final set.

[Nheer]

OP you should understand that all platforms have different ways of doing things and the Layout from twitter and other social media platforms which you prefer must not be applicable to all platforms so you don’t have the right to condemn the ways of this forum. We are okay with it and we are already used to it so making changes will not change anything.

It’s even better this way because early replies are the most relevant and other replies are mostly spam. Also reading a post and early responses makes it easier to understand the topic better.

Such an algorithm already exists her, it's called "Show unread posts since last visit".

This feature makes things easy and instead of regularly going through the whole forum and boards to access new posts you will have all unread posts and threads from different boards lined up for you. I sometimes make use of this feature.

A quick and dirty way for a user to put this into action is to place all the topics they don't like on ignore, and all the boards they are not interested in reading on ignore as well (which will automatically ignore all topics in that board), and then that feed will be full of topics you actually want to read.

I have not come across this feature of placing a board on ignore, rather i simply place notifications on the topics and boards that interests me so i get notified of new posts on a particular board.

[Rikafip]

Honestly can we make a push to bundle comments directed towards a certain side convo between users within a certain topic to stack directly underneath with a collapsible drop down that doesn't move the comments all the way to the last page?

God please no (not that theymos will seriously consider this, but still..).

Just let us oldtimers enjoy this last remnants of what discussion on Internet looked like before all that social media/chat type of platforms took over. And as others pointed out, you have reddit if you prefer that kind of style.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You're pretty much describing Twitter and/or Reddit.

Heaven help us all if Theymos changes the forum format to anything akin to Reddit.  I know nothing about how Twitter is laid out, but I've seen screenshots of tweets and the whole thing looks retarded with a very big capital "R".  Should that ever come about, I think I would flee to my fantasy sig campaign castle and live there behind locked doors for eternity.

Yeah, I hate Reddit with a passion.

(Assuming Theymos is planning on changing anything in the first place lol.)

That's anyone's guess.  Sometimes you think he's ignored all suggestions and then suddenly one of them has been implemented.  It's a crapshoot with him--but I'd bet the house he's not going to lift a finger to act on this one.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Honestly can we make a push to bundle comments directed towards a certain side convo between users within a certain topic to stack directly underneath with a collapsible drop down that doesn't move the comments all the way to the last page? I feel like this system is due for an upgrade and could use some more social media like elements. ...

Spend less time on those social media platforms and more on Bitcointalk and you'll get used to the features here and prefer them to those of the social media platforms you're speaking about. I love the forum layout especially the comment section. The layout makes it easier to track comments based on which one came first and makes it easy to understand where the conversation is heading. I don't like collapsible drop down layout, it looks untidy to me and obstruct the flow of reading. The forum layout looks clean and simple to understand. We have the quoting function that can be used to reply others comments and they're clickable (redirecting you to the quoted message) so I don't understand why there's a problem here.

We're getting too used to the new look of social media but we're forgetting that they're arrangements those platforms in the best way it'll be easier for them to get their advertisements to a broader audience. I like the fact the forum is different from the rest of the social platforms and it gives me another type of feeling when I'm here which I prefer to other social platforms. This layout makes it easier to read and follow up conversations on the thread.

[Rikafip]

I know nothing about how Twitter is laid out, but I've seen screenshots of tweets and the whole thing looks retarded with a very big capital "R".

Twitter is good for a quick exchange of informations and I use it on the daily basis as that's where crypto news usually show up first, but its totally unsuitable for any type of serious conversation and it shoulnd't really be used for that.

Yeah, I hate Reddit with a passion.

Yesah same here. Not because of comment layout though but instead how easy is to get banned there.

[philipma1957]

Honestly can we make a push to bundle comments directed towards a certain side convo between users within a certain topic to stack directly underneath with a collapsible drop down that doesn't move the comments all the way to the last page? I feel like this system is due for an upgrade and could use some more social media like elements. ...

No we should not.  in fact you should go on reddit and ask them to switch their format to bitcointalk.

You are simply programmed wrong and don't even understand why it was done to you.

Please for your home work go complain on reddit.

[Rruchi man]

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There is no need for this, the layout makes the forum remain unique.

Whenever you are on the forum, you can see that it is a serious place from the layout, a place to learn from, not some social media platform where their layout has been made to look attractive to make people want to remain.

If you are truly in the forum to learn, the layout will be the least of your concerns.

[Faisal2202]

You're pretty much describing Twitter and/or Reddit. If you prefer that layout, you can simply move to there. This old-style forum layout is one of the reasons why a lot of people are here so it'd be counter-intuitive to change it.

(Assuming Theymos is planning on changing anything in the first place lol.)

I totally, agree, plus it kind a feels cool to type messages here. Like if one is making posts or messages here on BTT and using this same layout to make some posts, And if one is making them in public like among friends. Then they also become curious. As I have seen many situations like these. Where friend got curious whenever I tried to make a post or message in class. Those who sat near me, started to ask questions related to this and I have only one thing to say, this is a discussion form where you can learn and learn about and through BTC respectively.

I really like this layout and I hope this will never be changed. As, it is very cool and now become a little handy too.

[philipma1957]

Honestly can we make a push to bundle comments directed towards a certain side convo between users within a certain topic to stack directly underneath with a collapsible drop down that doesn't move the comments all the way to the last page?

God please no (not that theymos will seriously consider this, but still..).

Just let us oldtimers enjoy this last remnants of what discussion on Internet looked like before all that social media/chat type of platforms took over. And as others pointed out, you have reddit if you prefer that kind of style.

They don't understand the purpose of reddit's "new"  format.

He or she the op that is, should watch this movie

"Wild in the streets."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063808/

I saw it in the movies with my dad I was 11 at the time.

Here I am at 66 and still see the same techniques to hurt the older for the newer's benefit.

reddit simply is a variation of that movie. as is all the 'new formats' are on the net.

[Woodie]

Just wondering how much of an upgrade simple machines offers, as I thought everything needs to be kept simple...incase this swings in favor of a new look,do we have other forums that have managed to fork SMF that can be used as a reference point and maybe put this up for a vote to get BCT a face-lift.
But then again I honestly don't see a reason to get the the forum a new sleeve as as the current one is fully functional, besides we have 2FA in the pipeline which we are yet to try around..but overall not a bad idea to give SMF a modern look.