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The idea sounds good but will it really work and if it does for how long? Am asking this because as far as I know, people especially new generations do not like subscribing to newsletters, it a bit outdated. Also, you need to make solid partnerships with multiple casinos to make this work. Those partnership must be long-term partnerships not just for a week or two. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your project.
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The idea sounds good but will it really work and if it does for how long? Am asking this because as far as I know, people especially new generations do not like subscribing to newsletters, it a bit outdated. Also, you need to make solid partnerships with multiple casinos to make this work. Those partnership must be long-term partnerships not just for a week or two. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your project.
the concept is nice, but yeah, how long can you sustain the interest of your subscribers? so it means, you need to have active partnership with casino/s week after week so they will stay in touch with their subscription. as you said, the subscription is free, so you can already attract user on this. however, sustenance is the usual dilemma on this. there are so many news sites already. so one attraction from his project is that they can earn free bankroll to be used in the casino, whichever will sponsor that week. so finding that casino every week may be his main bottleneck here.
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Guys you can sign up for the newsletter here : waggger.com and follow our Instagram here : @joinwagggerWhen you sign up, you'll get an email with a little bit more information about the concept. Please share this as much as possible, obviously the more subscribers we are, the bigger the rewards ! I'm reading everyone comments but replying to every single one is not an easy task. I've seen someone raising a question about how we draw the winner without any manipulation from our side. We have two options, either we screen record the process and share it with you or we use a professional software. Still to be determined. Also, regarding the landing page of our website, if you have any suggestion regarding the copywriting, I'm open for feedback ! I would suggest turning the emaillist you are building into a double opt in email list. All you would need to add is a confirmation link into the email that is sent on initial subscription. This way the list is more curated, you are certain people who joined are the actual owners of the email and it is way more valuable. (really a standard in email subscriptions) Looking forward to seeing what the partnerships are ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Guys you can sign up for the newsletter here : waggger.com and follow our Instagram here : @joinwagggerWhen you sign up, you'll get an email with a little bit more information about the concept. Please share this as much as possible, obviously the more subscribers we are, the bigger the rewards ! I'm reading everyone comments but replying to every single one is not an easy task. I've seen someone raising a question about how we draw the winner without any manipulation from our side. We have two options, either we screen record the process and share it with you or we use a professional software. Still to be determined. Also, regarding the landing page of our website, if you have any suggestion regarding the copywriting, I'm open for feedback ! For you to provide more trust I guess you need to escrow the prize fund here, just a suggestion. I think you may record that one and that's fine or you may choose a block transaction to draw the winners by choosing the last digits. Here's a recent draw for you to familiarize with it since this is the most used way here to draw winners: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466557.0
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September 16, 2023, 07:25:26 AM |
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The idea sounds good but will it really work and if it does for how long? Am asking this because as far as I know, people especially new generations do not like subscribing to newsletters, it a bit outdated. Also, you need to make solid partnerships with multiple casinos to make this work. Those partnership must be long-term partnerships not just for a week or two. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your project.
Not necessarily, there are very successful newsletters in crypto that have +200 000 subscribers and the vast majority of them are under 30yo. Keeping them entertained and engaged is a challenge that's true, but we believe that if the winning prize is attractive enough people will easily get tempted to give it a try considering it's free to enter. I would suggest turning the emaillist you are building into a double opt in email list. All you would need to add is a confirmation link into the email that is sent on initial subscription. This way the list is more curated, you are certain people who joined are the actual owners of the email and it is way more valuable. (really a standard in email subscriptions) Looking forward to seeing what the partnerships are ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes we're going to add the double opt-in ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) For the partnership, nothing is done yet but I can tell you that we are in talk with some of the big names out there. Subscribe to be among the firsts to know !
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September 16, 2023, 08:24:15 AM |
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The concept does sound good, but there are some questions that come to our minds when we read about it. What will the contest be about? You didn't explain anything about that, and since you said that the members of the newsletter get a chance to win free money which means participation in the contest is free, how will the casino get anything if the contest doesn't require the players to make any deposits or anything? The marketing will only be beneficial if they are getting deposits for spending money on the contest.
And, you said that subscription to the newsletter is also free of cost, so I wonder how will that be beneficial to you if you are not charging anything from the subscribers and giving them opportunities to earn money? Maybe you are aiming to get paid ads and earn revenue through that.
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September 16, 2023, 08:45:00 AM |
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I've got a project that I need your feedback on. I'm planning of launching a crypto gambling contest newsletter. The concept is very simple, every week we partner with a crypto casino and allow one of our subscribers to win a few hundreds or low thousands dollars to be spent at the casino partner platform.
On one side the casino operator gets a marketing promotion which will eventually results in traffic. On the other side, the members of the newsletter get a chance to win free money to be played. The newsletter would obviously be free to subscribe to.
Have you got the deals with the crypto casinos in this regard? Are they ready for this promotion? I think that gambling casinos would not be interested in your casino unless your site has many visitors which may be an attractive point for the casinos. Also when i visited your site it took me to this page https://www.waggger.com/subscribe and there are not many details mentioned. If you could write more details as to how it will work, perhaps more people will be interested in subscribing. I am asking this for the users who do not come through bitcointalk but land directly on your page.
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September 16, 2023, 08:54:27 AM |
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The concept does sound good, but there are some questions that come to our minds when we read about it. What will the contest be about? You didn't explain anything about that, and since you said that the members of the newsletter get a chance to win free money which means participation in the contest is free, how will the casino get anything if the contest doesn't require the players to make any deposits or anything? The marketing will only be beneficial if they are getting deposits for spending money on the contest.
And, you said that subscription to the newsletter is also free of cost, so I wonder how will that be beneficial to you if you are not charging anything from the subscribers and giving them opportunities to earn money? Maybe you are aiming to get paid ads and earn revenue through that.
Well to my own knowledge for certain good puzzles you have tried to raise, I think it all about traffic generation for both op and the casino used at the particular contest at hand because like he said in the op, that different casinos will be used and that means contesters and interested gamblers will register at the casino and of course their ads will also be shown at the casino as partners by which their own product is also marketed perhaps. This is just about marketing strategy for op and I think the casinos can only be interested if the traffic to be generated is far more than what they already have through signature campaign and other publicity they do. To the op, regards to the contest reward, I hope there won't be any condition for withdrawal like introducing KYC to your project after the contest had started because this is possible just in the middle of the context which will amount to changing the goal post in the middle of the match. Also, the games to be played in the context need to be mentioned. Hope witthdrawal is not encumbered?
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What do you guys think ? I need your feedback as players and therefore potential subscribers.
That's a solid idea overall. But here's a little concern I've got: if signing up for the newsletter is open to everyone for free, how are you planning to tackle the issue of fake registrations? In theory, someone could whip up a bunch of email addresses just to up their chances of winning, and it could be pretty tough to spot. When you're dealing with freebies, you've got to keep in mind that there'll be folks trying to game the system. That's a great question. We will have a software that most casino use nowadays that relies on a technology called digital fingerprint. This will allows us to prevent people from abusing our contest by creating different accounts with different email addresses or bots. Are you going to post on your landing page here https://www.waggger.com/subscribe that you are using a digital fingerprint to ward off cheaters and abusers is it the same as browser fingerprinting if you have this you should state this in your terms because the users are risking their data if you track them without giving them consent. Besides there are a lot of ways users can block digital fingerprinting they can use browsers with anti-digital fingerprinting many browsers are offering one example is Brave and there are browser extensions that prevent digital fingerprinting like this one Browser Fingerprint ProtectorThe idea is good but there should be parameters to protect users data and prevent cheaters and abusers.
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September 16, 2023, 10:38:25 AM |
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Yes we're going to add the double opt-in ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) For the partnership, nothing is done yet but I can tell you that we are in talk with some of the big names out there. Subscribe to be among the firsts to know ! Already subscribed and looking forward to seeing what kind of partnerships you have ligned up. Also good to hear that you had already thought about the double opt in. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I've got a project that I need your feedback on. I'm planning of launching a crypto gambling contest newsletter. The concept is very simple, every week we partner with a crypto casino and allow one of our subscribers to win a few hundreds or low thousands dollars to be spent at the casino partner platform.
On one side the casino operator gets a marketing promotion which will eventually results in traffic. On the other side, the members of the newsletter get a chance to win free money to be played. The newsletter would obviously be free to subscribe to.
The idea seems unique and creative as well, since it has no counterparts in the gambling market, as far as I know. In my opinion, there are two important elements to ensure the success of your vision: First, it is the success in establishing partnerships with casinos and gambling platforms that see benefit from contracting with your method. Here, your most fortunate potential customers are the platforms that want to increase traffic, which will usually be platforms that do not have the ability to Launching major promotional campaigns. Secondly, it is finding a way to secure the prize fund pool, which is almost the most difficult stage since you need to develop a way to do this or resort to a third party.
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I’ve read all the answers since the beginning of this thread. I’ve made an FAQ, which I hope, will be as clear as possible to everyone.
What is Waggger.com :
We are a rewards club for crypto casino players. Every week we organise, in partnership with one or multiple casino partners, a contest where we give away bonuses to be played at their casino.
What can I win :
The exact figures greatly vary from one casino partner to the next. However, the reward structure remain similar. The winner gets a no deposit bonus of a few hundred dollars to be played at the casino partner with a wager requirement. That’s our plan at the start. Obviously, if we get a good traction, the winner’s bonus will considerably increase to the thousands of dollars.
Do I still get something if I didn’t win :
Depending on the casino partner, you can still get a small no deposit bonus in order to always incentivise everyone to participate. It’s a win win for everyone !
How can I participate :
First, you need to subscribe to our website. All you need to do is enter your email. Nothing else. Every Friday, you will receive an email with the instruction for the next giveaway. In order to enter, you will need to go follow our Instagram page, like our latest post dedicated to the giveaway and tag one of your friends in the comments. That’s all. 24h later, we will randomly draw one winner that fits all the criteria mentioned above. The winner will be announced on social medias and email.
Is it free :
It’s 100% free. Subscribing to our website and taking part to the giveaways is totally free. You get an opportunity to win a reward with no downside..
What’s the catch :
There isn’t any. Crypto casinos are constantly looking for new players or new ways to incentivise their existing player base. We simply act as a promotion platform for them by creating weekly contest.
Is your website safe :
Our website is built on a platform named Beehiiv. It’s a renowned newsletter platform that is being backed by venture capital. Apart from your email, we do not ask for any sensitive information such as credit card details, personal address …
Does it require KYC :
We do not ask for KYC. However, each crypto casino has its own KYC policy. Therefore, you might have to go through it at some point, like you would normally do, in order to withdraw your winnings.
Is waggger.com a casino :
No we are not. We are a rewards club for crypto casino players.
Where is the bonus money coming from :
As of today, the bonuses are sponsored by our casino partners. At some stage, we plan to subsidise the bonuses ourselves in order to give away bigger rewards.
How are the winners being picked :
We use a professional software that randomly selects a winner among the eligible participants.
How do you pick the casino :
We only work with crypto casinos that have a public credibility. We thoroughly review them in order to make sure they provide a safe place to play.
Have you signed any deals with casinos yet :
We are in ongoing discussions with several casinos. A few deals are in the pipeline and we hope to reveal it, with our official launch date in the coming weeks.
I think I’ve covered them all. Let me know if anything is stil unclear !
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September 16, 2023, 06:01:39 PM |
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The point is how to maintain your subscriber after they already subscribe your site.
I don't think those casinos are willing to give free bet to one user that could cost them to spend money in case the gambler is lucky enough. The casinos might see you have a good amount subscribers, but there's no proof if your site are active.
So you need to have something to do about this case.
Obviously they need to try hard and improve their site. They also need to listen to the requests of their customer. So many casinos are giving a free bet. If they want to, they can put some catch so that they can make sure that the players can take home the money that they made out of their free bets, and they can only make money through it. There is a way to tell if a site is active. Those who want to make some deals can check it out first if it matters to them. A lot of casinos are already doing a news letter and some of them provides a bonus. There are also casino review sites which can do the same thing. Is your main service a casino review site, huh @OP?
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September 16, 2023, 06:16:34 PM |
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The point is how to maintain your subscriber after they already subscribe your site.
I don't think those casinos are willing to give free bet to one user that could cost them to spend money in case the gambler is lucky enough. The casinos might see you have a good amount subscribers, but there's no proof if your site are active.
So you need to have something to do about this case.
Obviously they need to try hard and improve their site. They also need to listen to the requests of their customer. So many casinos are giving a free bet. If they want to, they can put some catch so that they can make sure that the players can take home the money that they made out of their free bets, and they can only make money through it. There is a way to tell if a site is active. Those who want to make some deals can check it out first if it matters to them. A lot of casinos are already doing a news letter and some of them provides a bonus. There are also casino review sites which can do the same thing. Is your main service a casino review site, huh @OP? No, we are not a casino review site. It's very simple. Once a week, you get a chance to win a couple hundreds dollars to be played at a casino partner. Same principle as a raffle. We just do it as a promotion vehicle for our casino partners. How do we maintain our subscribers ? Same as every other raffle or lottery businesses. We make sure that the winnings are valuable enough for them to come back.
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September 16, 2023, 07:17:36 PM |
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First time hearing this idea, it is great, in my opinion. Do you think abuse to your newsletter and bonuses will be a problem? Or not, since the casino can detect and verify abusers of the bonus? What would be your take in that scenario?
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Ojima-ojo
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September 16, 2023, 07:33:53 PM |
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The idea sounds good but will it really work and if it does for how long? Am asking this because as far as I know, people especially new generations do not like subscribing to newsletters, it a bit outdated. Also, you need to make solid partnerships with multiple casinos to make this work. Those partnership must be long-term partnerships not just for a week or two. Anyway, I wish you good luck with your project.
The bottom line of all this is that, casinos will first consider how much their earn in revenue first before they can give out such free money in collaboration with third-party service such as the one in the op, The blueprint of the idea sound nice to hear, but the other thing is that it executions may be hard in the sense that many lf the casino will rather run such campaign or protmotions themselves. But in general view, this is a nice idea anyway, and I am sure we should be expecting a lot of follow-up posts from the ops since the project is still at its developmental stage.
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Lanatsa
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September 16, 2023, 07:37:44 PM |
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I do love that sign up thing and gives out the chance for you to be selected on being the winner on getting that no deposit bonus but on the time that i have seen this line based whats written on op:
"In order to enter, you will need to go follow our Instagram page, like our latest post dedicated to the giveaway and tag one of your friends in the comments. That’s all."
Then i cant really be able to avoid to think that this is really that some sort of like hunting or grinding which i dont really have a good feeling about this and even on other or most members of this forum too. Whats the catch? Its been answered but it seems that it is really that pretty obvious.
For those members who do post on earlier page which i do truly agree with on which it would really be that better if those prizes or bonuses should be escrowed but since we are talking about gambling partners then it would be better on having those kind of confirmation because there's tendency that these all things are act up.
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Johnyz
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September 16, 2023, 08:06:14 PM |
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First time hearing this idea, it is great, in my opinion. Do you think abuse to your newsletter and bonuses will be a problem? Or not, since the casino can detect and verify abusers of the bonus? What would be your take in that scenario? If they have the power to detect it and prohibit them, then probably it wont hurt the site. This is actually a good idea and hopefully they get the enough funding to market this project since they still need to do this and they can’t do it if they have a limited funds for this. Abusers will surely try to challenge the system, they might succeed though especially if the team is not improving their security system.
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September 16, 2023, 08:43:41 PM |
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First time hearing this idea, it is great, in my opinion. Do you think abuse to your newsletter and bonuses will be a problem? Or not, since the casino can detect and verify abusers of the bonus? What would be your take in that scenario? Yes it will be a thing but we will use a software that prevents such abuse, same for the casino, they will use their own software to prevent multiple accounting. I do love that sign up thing and gives out the chance for you to be selected on being the winner on getting that no deposit bonus but on the time that i have seen this line based whats written on op:
"In order to enter, you will need to go follow our Instagram page, like our latest post dedicated to the giveaway and tag one of your friends in the comments. That’s all."
Then i cant really be able to avoid to think that this is really that some sort of like hunting or grinding which i dont really have a good feeling about this and even on other or most members of this forum too. Whats the catch? Its been answered but it seems that it is really that pretty obvious.
For those members who do post on earlier page which i do truly agree with on which it would really be that better if those prizes or bonuses should be escrowed but since we are talking about gambling partners then it would be better on having those kind of confirmation because there's tendency that these all things are act up.
Few things here. The prizes cannot be escrowed as they are under the form of bonuses to be redeemed at the casino partner. The winners will either get a code or a dedicated account to redeem the rewards. Once again, it's free to participate, it's not like you have to pay in order to enter, in that scenario I would understand the concern about all this being "act up". Regarding the Instagram requirements, it's common practice for the majority of online businesses that do giveaways. When you give out something for free you obviously expect a return on investment otherwise it doesn't make sense from a business point of view. If most of the giveaways you see on Instagram require from you to like the post and tag a friend, it's because it creates exposure for us as a business and therefore our return on investment.
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September 16, 2023, 08:52:28 PM |
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I do love that sign up thing and gives out the chance for you to be selected on being the winner on getting that no deposit bonus but on the time that i have seen this line based whats written on op:
"In order to enter, you will need to go follow our Instagram page, like our latest post dedicated to the giveaway and tag one of your friends in the comments. That’s all."
Then i cant really be able to avoid to think that this is really that some sort of like hunting or grinding which i dont really have a good feeling about this and even on other or most members of this forum too. Whats the catch? Its been answered but it seems that it is really that pretty obvious.
For those members who do post on earlier page which i do truly agree with on which it would really be that better if those prizes or bonuses should be escrowed but since we are talking about gambling partners then it would be better on having those kind of confirmation because there's tendency that these all things are act up.
I think for like maybe its just a catch or just a lead host. Hopefuly not a scam. While contests and giveaways can be exciting opportunities, it's crucial to approach them with a healthy dose of caution and skepticism. Being informed, asking questions, and verifying the credibility of the organizer can help participants make more informed decisions about whether to participate in such activities. These are the time when you need to feel cautious or skeptical when participating in such contests.
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