[Boxing]: Stevenson vs De Los Santos - Nov 16

[Baofeng]

So after Frank Martin has back out of the supposedly fight with Shakur Stevenson. Team Stevenson was able to secure another fighter in the division, ranked 5th in Edwin De Los Santos.

I think Edwin though is good and can give Shakur a good test at lightweight.

Here are highlights of Edwin and be the judge if he can compete with Shakur or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3kbEPhdUkY



https://twitter.com/ESPNRingside/status/1702016928011927606

Hopefully there will be no cancellations.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

[lionheart78]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

[TravelMug]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

I agree, he over commits and this could be an opening that Shakur will take advantage of. As we all know that Shakur has a high boxing IQ and in this kind of mistakes that his opponent makes, he will simply throw a counter either to the body or to the chin.

And the thing with Edwin Delos Santos is that his chin has been broken already, although he did get up from the canvass and score a knockout win, but still though, if someone has crack your jaw already, it's just a matter of time before someone does it again.

[TimeTeller]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

Odds for sure will favor Shakur on this match. So you can also look for other money lines here once they are out.
By winning method, over/under and other betting lines. But it seems Shakur will win via knockout here.
As he has no loss yet, I don't think de los santos will win via upset. So maybe, this match is indeed just another tune-up fight for Shakur.
Shakur also has high KO win percentage, so high probability that he will finish the match early.

[Dave1]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

Odds for sure will favor Shakur on this match. So you can also look for other money lines here once they are out.

I think ML will give us a not so very attractive odds.

By winning method, over/under and other betting lines. But it seems Shakur will win via knockout here.

I do like the over/under though, not sure what will be the initial though, perhaps it will be -/+ 10.5 rounds?

As he has no loss yet, I don't think de los santos will win via upset. So maybe, this match is indeed just another tune-up fight for Shakur.
Shakur also has high KO win percentage, so high probability that he will finish the match early.

Yes and it's a easy route for Shakur to win another belt at 135 lbs. Not sure though if Haney will vacant it as he will have a fight at 140 lbs and then still go down and back to 135 lbs are a regular champion and then him and Shakur could meet.

[dothebeats]

I'm still for Stevenson on this bout. He's still ahead against other guys on this division and De Los Santos isn't even close to the closest second when it comes to speed and power. Stevenson might not make quick work of the challenger, but he's still going to come out on top in terms of scores and knock downs if it ever goes the distance.

A bet on a knockout will be the most value here. ML is just straight up favoring Stevenson no matter where you will look once the odds are up.

[btc_angela]

I also voted for Stevenson to win by KO.

We have seen his talent already, taking the 0 of some of his opponents and they make them amateurish to a certain degree because of Stevenson's good boxing IQ. He will simply break down any of his opponents. And sometimes he will beat them to their own game, so that's how great Shakur is.

But at least he has found a dance partner that is willing, and so this is a go now and most likely it will be like Stevenson on 1.2x as favorite, I reckon.

[stadus]

I also voted for Stevenson to win by KO.

I voted for Stevenson to win via decision. Although his last fight was won via TKO, I still believe that Stevenson is not aggressive enough to go for a KO. Instead, he will play it safe, as is his usual strategy, to ensure a win. If De Los Santos were to recklessly attack Stevenson, then maybe we might see a KO. However, if he also plays smart, this fight will likely go to the judges' scorecards, with another unanimous win for Stevenson.

[Natalim]

I think ML will give us a not so very attractive odds.

It's not very attractive, as indicated by this site, https://www.proboxingodds.com/. Here are the betting odds:

Edwin Delos Santos +530
Shakur Stevenson -900

I wouldn't bet on the Moneyline with those odds. Risking $900 to win $100 is a significant gamble. Instead, I would wait for alternative markets on this fight. Maybe there are more attractive odds, although they might come with higher risk.

[aioc]

So after Frank Martin has back out of the supposedly fight with Shakur Stevenson. Team Stevenson was able to secure another fighter in the division, ranked 5th in Edwin De Los Santos.

I think Edwin though is good and can give Shakur a good test at lightweight.

Here are highlights of Edwin and be the judge if he can compete with Shakur or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3kbEPhdUkY

No, I don't think he can match Shakur's power, this Edwin is good at knocking out patsies but it's totally different when you're fighting who is stronger than you are, who can counter, can duck, and has a good ring generalship.
Shakur will just teach him a lesson in boxing, this is not the kind of fighter that can give Shakur a big challenge.

Edwin has 16 fights and 14 knockouts but he cannot be compared to Shakur's skills, Shakur is still the heavy favorite here, but we'll see, Edwin can punch there's a possibility of an upset if Shakur relaxes his defense.

[mirakal]

This Edwin De Los Santos can do as a replacement for Frank Martin and I think he's going to give Shakur Stevenson a pretty much good taste of how lightweight should be because this is also his chance to show the public what he is capable of instead of just being a nameless #5 boxer in the lightweight division.

Comparing their records, Edwin is decent enough to test Shakur in this division. The latter may have some advantage, of course, but I still think that this will be a good fight to see.

[btc_angela]

I also voted for Stevenson to win by KO.

I voted for Stevenson to win via decision. Although his last fight was won via TKO, I still believe that Stevenson is not aggressive enough to go for a KO. Instead, he will play it safe, as is his usual strategy, to ensure a win. If De Los Santos were to recklessly attack Stevenson, then maybe we might see a KO. However, if he also plays smart, this fight will likely go to the judges' scorecards, with another unanimous win for Stevenson.

Yes, I mean it's safe to go for a win via score card or referee stoppage. But as you have said, if a KO is presented itself, then boxers will go for it. It might not mean a knockout through a huge punch in the face, but maybe a body punch will do as Stevenson is also known to be a big body puncher or least he makes it as a target to slow down his opponents and then maybe go for the kill later.

And if De Los Santos weakness is going for a maximum range in his every punch, then for sure Stevenson is going to used that and time him with a good counter either to the face or body and so the possibility of a KO win.

[coin-investor]

Frank Martin can offer a better match than De Los Santos there is a level in boxing and De Los Santos although good on paper I doubt is on the same level as Shakur, although this is a good opportunity for De Los Santos he is not ready to face a boxer like Shakur who has proven himself to be a top-level fighter.

There's really no need to create a poll on this fight, Shakur will secure the majority of the vote this is going to be an easy fight for Shakur, for the lack of fighters to face in his division, he is fighting, a fighter who lacks credentials to be in a title fight.

[bittraffic]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

[freedomgo]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Well, one thing is for sure, both boxers wanted the vacant belt even if it's just an interim title for the meantime but that is still the same because if Haney will continue his journey at 140 then that means that whoever wins this bout, he will be a regular champion after Haney will be stripped.

But I got to say though, Shakur really got an upper hand because his IQ is different and with experience, I know he can handle Santos. Shakur wouldn't be feared at 135 by Loma, Isaac and even Haney if he's not even that hard to fight but he is really hard to crack that is why those guys chose to avoid him rather than face an imminent embarrassment.

[Kemarit]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Well, one thing is for sure, both boxers wanted the vacant belt even if it's just an interim title for the meantime but that is still the same because if Haney will continue his journey at 140 then that means that whoever wins this bout, he will be a regular champion after Haney will be stripped.

Correct, the winner might be relegated to full status by the WBC if Haney will be stripped because he doesn't want to defend or campaign at 140 lbs.
It could be a duck for Haney as clearly as him and Shakur has been going on in social media prior to the announcement of Shakur's fight, (including the failed Frank Martin fight).

But I got to say though, Shakur really got an upper hand because his IQ is different and with experience, I know he can handle Santos. Shakur wouldn't be feared at 135 by Loma, Isaac and even Haney if he's not even that hard to fight but he is really hard to crack that is why those guys chose to avoid him rather than face an imminent embarrassment.

And that is one point that Devin Haney's father said in one video.
Shakur is above his son, although Devin is getting closer as he won championship, he still thinks that Shakur might overcome his son, hence they got up to 140 lbs and chase Regis for his belt.

[mirakal]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Well, one thing is for sure, both boxers wanted the vacant belt even if it's just an interim title for the meantime but that is still the same because if Haney will continue his journey at 140 then that means that whoever wins this bout, he will be a regular champion after Haney will be stripped.

Correct, the winner might be relegated to full status by the WBC if Haney will be stripped because he doesn't want to defend or campaign at 140 lbs.
It could be a duck for Haney as clearly as him and Shakur has been going on in social media prior to the announcement of Shakur's fight, (including the failed Frank Martin fight).

But I got to say though, Shakur really got an upper hand because his IQ is different and with experience, I know he can handle Santos. Shakur wouldn't be feared at 135 by Loma, Isaac and even Haney if he's not even that hard to fight but he is really hard to crack that is why those guys chose to avoid him rather than face an imminent embarrassment.

And that is one point that Devin Haney's father said in one video.
Shakur is above his son, although Devin is getting closer as he won championship, he still thinks that Shakur might overcome his son, hence they got up to 140 lbs and chase Regis for his belt.

I don't think that could be is the right term for it because Devin Haney indeed ducked Shakur Stevenson in a mandatory fight and just like what you said, even his own father admired Shakur's talent because he know that he is a serious boxer that can give his son's first defeat in his career and worse, replaced being the unified champion. We may not see how will the fight go but I think we can already assume what would happen.

[robelneo]

So after Frank Martin has back out of the supposedly fight with Shakur Stevenson. Team Stevenson was able to secure another fighter in the division, ranked 5th in Edwin De Los Santos.

I think Edwin though is good and can give Shakur a good test at lightweight.

Here are highlights of Edwin and be the judge if he can compete with Shakur or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3kbEPhdUkY

Hopefully there will be no cancellations.

This De Los Santos looks good on paper I checked all his opponents and these are cherry-picked and easy fights so they can increase his knockout percentage but overall he brings nothing to the table for the boxing community to think that Shakur will be challenged.
Shakur is ripe to fight top-rated fighters in his division and in other weight classes Haney, Tank, or even Ryan Garcia will have a hard time figuring out how to beat Shakur.
The question in this fight is not if Shakur will win by knockout or decision, but rather in what round will Shakur knock out De Los Santos?
I'd like to believe many boxers are ducking Shakur with the many cancellations.

[Kemarit]

So after Frank Martin has back out of the supposedly fight with Shakur Stevenson. Team Stevenson was able to secure another fighter in the division, ranked 5th in Edwin De Los Santos.

I think Edwin though is good and can give Shakur a good test at lightweight.

Here are highlights of Edwin and be the judge if he can compete with Shakur or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3kbEPhdUkY

Hopefully there will be no cancellations.

This De Los Santos looks good on paper I checked all his opponents and these are cherry-picked and easy fights so they can increase his knockout percentage but overall he brings nothing to the table for the boxing community to think that Shakur will be challenged.
Shakur is ripe to fight top-rated fighters in his division and in other weight classes Haney, Tank, or even Ryan Garcia will have a hard time figuring out how to beat Shakur.
The question in this fight is not if Shakur will win by knockout or decision, but rather in what round will Shakur knock out De Los Santos?
I'd like to believe many boxers are ducking Shakur with the many cancellations.

If I'm not mistaken, even Tank Davis doesn't mentioned Shakur as his possible opponents.
Shakur said that he respects Loma, offered him the biggest money so far, but they declined him.
And we all know how Frank Martin says yes, but then wanted a 50-50 split in purse which is not going to be given to him.
And so the only options is Delos Santos for know for Shakur as the top boxers all said no to win.
Maybe this fight will not go to distance as you have said, could be less than 10 rounds?

[goaldigger]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Its too unprofessional for some backer to back-out especially if there’s already a schedule of the fight, well if they are afraid of Shakur then better not to accept the offer in the place this. Anyway, this is still a good replacement and yes De Los Santos can bring a good fight with Shakur, there might be problem with his strategy of fighting, there’s still time to prepare though. Still looking for Shakur here to win the match, he’s really a good fighter.

[BitcoinPanther]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

This is a good fight for DLS to establish his legacy.  If he win this fight his boxing career will greatly improve though I think that he needs a lot of improvement especially his defense when fighting Stevenson.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Yeah, if the match ended up as a lose for De los Santos, it is not his first time.  And I think losing a fight sometimes gives a good result in the future.  With losses they are able to study and strategy carefully and may discovers flaws of the training that can be fixed in the later fight.

[Kemarit]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Its too unprofessional for some backer to back-out especially if there’s already a schedule of the fight, well if they are afraid of Shakur then better not to accept the offer in the place this. Anyway, this is still a good replacement and yes De Los Santos can bring a good fight with Shakur, there might be problem with his strategy of fighting, there’s still time to prepare though. Still looking for Shakur here to win the match, he’s really a good fighter.

It's all verbal if I'm not mistaken, when it was announced that a Martin vs Shakur was reach, there is no sign agreement yet, but just say Yes without any contract.
I'm not defending Martin, but there are boxers as well who ducked and for sure it will put a stigma on them, just like what Martin name is right now, synonyms of avoiding or ducking Shakur.

@BitcoinPanther - I'm not really sure if he can established his legacy, because it will take a lot from him to be able to win against Shakur as he will be too much for him.

[Distinctin]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Its too unprofessional for some backer to back-out especially if there’s already a schedule of the fight, well if they are afraid of Shakur then better not to accept the offer in the place this. Anyway, this is still a good replacement and yes De Los Santos can bring a good fight with Shakur, there might be problem with his strategy of fighting, there’s still time to prepare though. Still looking for Shakur here to win the match, he’s really a good fighter.

It's all verbal if I'm not mistaken, when it was announced that a Martin vs Shakur was reach, there is no sign agreement yet, but just say Yes without any contract.
I'm not defending Martin, but there are boxers as well who ducked and for sure it will put a stigma on them, just like what Martin name is right now, synonyms of avoiding or ducking Shakur.

Few boxers nowadays are willing to face opponents as long as they meet the weight requirements. Most of them have become more strategic, understanding that a loss can significantly hinder their future goals. They carefully choose their opponents. In Martin's case, he likely realizes that his chances against Shakur are very slim. He cannot afford to take that gamble, so perhaps he understands that it's not yet the right time. He doesn't want his career to end prematurely.

[bittraffic]

Shakur is a top-level which many had turned down fighting him, even Loma and Isaac Cruz but I think DLS can handle him. Though Santos can hurt with just jabs, he hasn't fought someone with skills like Shakur.

De Los Santos is younger with 1 loss, so losing another isn't as frightening as the first for him. He's got his run though but Shakur could stop him from picking up while he is still trying to climb up.

Its too unprofessional for some backer to back-out especially if there’s already a schedule of the fight, well if they are afraid of Shakur then better not to accept the offer in the place this. Anyway, this is still a good replacement and yes De Los Santos can bring a good fight with Shakur, there might be problem with his strategy of fighting, there’s still time to prepare though. Still looking for Shakur here to win the match, he’s really a good fighter.

It's all verbal if I'm not mistaken, when it was announced that a Martin vs Shakur was reach, there is no sign agreement yet, but just say Yes without any contract.
I'm not defending Martin, but there are boxers as well who ducked and for sure it will put a stigma on them, just like what Martin name is right now, synonyms of avoiding or ducking Shakur.

Few boxers nowadays are willing to face opponents as long as they meet the weight requirements. Most of them have become more strategic, understanding that a loss can significantly hinder their future goals. They carefully choose their opponents. In Martin's case, he likely realizes that his chances against Shakur are very slim. He cannot afford to take that gamble, so perhaps he understands that it's not yet the right time. He doesn't want his career to end prematurely.

They have their reasons, mostly ducking and afraid of losing but there is more to it. Or there's the discussion about the cut.  Champs are also picking who to fight so it's pretty common to refuse if they are not mandated. Martin is a better contender than Santos imo. It's a wonder he hasn't gotten a belt yet.

For the sake of providing entertainment at his expense, just give a salute to Santos and his brave soul. This is going to be a dominated fight showing off the agility of Shakur.

[BitDane]

Few boxers nowadays are willing to face opponents as long as they meet the weight requirements. Most of them have become more strategic, understanding that a loss can significantly hinder their future goals. They carefully choose their opponents. In Martin's case, he likely realizes that his chances against Shakur are very slim. He cannot afford to take that gamble, so perhaps he understands that it's not yet the right time. He doesn't want his career to end prematurely.

It is obvious that they will fight opponent that they have more chance of winning that the one that may give them a loss.  It is one way of preserving their records and enhancing their boxing career.  This kind of strategy had been practiced ever seen reason why we rarely see fights between hot boxers on their prime.  With a good records, boxers are able to get a higher payout while their promoters are able to seal a higher paying deals.  They can even demand things like having a better cut on the pot money.

Those who are the under rated are then forced to face more superior opponent because they have to just like in this fight.  De Los Santos has to accept the fight in order to make a name for himself but the risk of losing is too obvious.  He isn't the opponent for Stevenson, many of us will agree but for DLS to step up his career he needs this fight badly.

[bisdak40]

Voted for Shakur Stevenson to win via decision here.

I think Shakur would be very careful not to be hit by that one shot that would send him to the canvas as this De Los Santos packs a punch as almost all of his opponents were KOed by him, 14 KO out of 16 wins, that's amazing though that came from less popular opponents but still, he needs to be careful.

[btc_angela]

Voted for Shakur Stevenson to win via decision here.

I think Shakur would be very careful not to be hit by that one shot that would send him to the canvas as this De Los Santos packs a punch as almost all of his opponents were KOed by him, 14 KO out of 16 wins, that's amazing though that came from less popular opponents but still, he needs to be careful.

Of course, with Shakur's ring IQ, he will have a good time to show his defense agains Delos Santos and we might say that he will look amateurish against Stevenson here. But we will give credit to Delos Santos for accepting this fight as a replacement for Frank Martin.

And to add to that, Shakur calls Frank Martin a bitch, but hopefully they can still fight in the future because there are animosity already and it could grew up in years as the might become the face of 135 lbs.

[Maslate]

Voted for Shakur Stevenson to win via decision here.

I think Shakur would be very careful not to be hit by that one shot that would send him to the canvas as this De Los Santos packs a punch as almost all of his opponents were KOed by him, 14 KO out of 16 wins, that's amazing though that came from less popular opponents but still, he needs to be careful.

Of course, with Shakur's ring IQ, he will have a good time to show his defense agains Delos Santos and we might say that he will look amateurish against Stevenson here. But we will give credit to Delos Santos for accepting this fight as a replacement for Frank Martin.

And to add to that, Shakur calls Frank Martin a bitch, but hopefully they can still fight in the future because there are animosity already and it could grew up in years as the might become the face of 135 lbs.

De Los Santos views this as an opportunity, and why wouldn't he accept it if he believes in himself? We've seen similar scenarios, like Ugas vs. Pacquiao, where Ugas was a replacement and won the fight. There are many possibilities in such situations, and one should never underestimate a hungry fighter eager to reach the top. Shakur needs to be cautious here because, while De Los Santos may not be widely known, his record shows a high KO ratio.

[Jating]

Voted for Shakur Stevenson to win via decision here.

I think Shakur would be very careful not to be hit by that one shot that would send him to the canvas as this De Los Santos packs a punch as almost all of his opponents were KOed by him, 14 KO out of 16 wins, that's amazing though that came from less popular opponents but still, he needs to be careful.

Of course, with Shakur's ring IQ, he will have a good time to show his defense agains Delos Santos and we might say that he will look amateurish against Stevenson here. But we will give credit to Delos Santos for accepting this fight as a replacement for Frank Martin.

And to add to that, Shakur calls Frank Martin a bitch, but hopefully they can still fight in the future because there are animosity already and it could grew up in years as the might become the face of 135 lbs.

De Los Santos views this as an opportunity, and why wouldn't he accept it if he believes in himself? We've seen similar scenarios, like Ugas vs. Pacquiao, where Ugas was a replacement and won the fight. There are many possibilities in such situations, and one should never underestimate a hungry fighter eager to reach the top. Shakur needs to be cautious here because, while De Los Santos may not be widely known, his record shows a high KO ratio.

Possible, but we shouldn't compare fighters though. In this case, we love to see how De Los Santos will perform against Shakur. I mean, there are reports that it seems everyone doesn't want to have any of Stevenson, but at least De Los Santos is willing to go even if he is rank way below the top 5 if I'm not mistaken.

And as you have said, this is a great opportunity, and lets say he lost the fight, but he shows the world that he is not ducking everyone, not Shakur or even the best of 135 lbs fighters.

[inthelongrun]

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

[stadus]

Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

It should be the right thing to do because he can't relax against a knockout artist. As usual, it's expected that he will use his quickness to tire De Los Santos. Eventually, De Los Santos will be frustrated if he cannot land clean shots on Shakur.

Most KO artists rely so much on their power, but when they face a boxer who knows how to use their quickness and has a high IQ in the ring, they struggle, just like Mayweather did against his opponents. Since Shakur is a big fan of Mayweather, we will likely see a fight that focuses more on technical movements rather than being a brawl.

[CryptoBuds]

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

[btc_angela]

Voted for Shakur Stevenson to win via decision here.

I think Shakur would be very careful not to be hit by that one shot that would send him to the canvas as this De Los Santos packs a punch as almost all of his opponents were KOed by him, 14 KO out of 16 wins, that's amazing though that came from less popular opponents but still, he needs to be careful.

Of course, with Shakur's ring IQ, he will have a good time to show his defense agains Delos Santos and we might say that he will look amateurish against Stevenson here. But we will give credit to Delos Santos for accepting this fight as a replacement for Frank Martin.

And to add to that, Shakur calls Frank Martin a bitch, but hopefully they can still fight in the future because there are animosity already and it could grew up in years as the might become the face of 135 lbs.

De Los Santos views this as an opportunity, and why wouldn't he accept it if he believes in himself? We've seen similar scenarios, like Ugas vs. Pacquiao, where Ugas was a replacement and won the fight. There are many possibilities in such situations, and one should never underestimate a hungry fighter eager to reach the top. Shakur needs to be cautious here because, while De Los Santos may not be widely known, his record shows a high KO ratio.

Of course, boxers love to take this kind of opportunity as well, but there are boxers who blatantly will go away and not sign the contract because of the money involved. But with the likes of De Los Santos, who is looking for every opportunity to get into the picture in this division. Although its very hard fight for him as he will be fighting the best version of Stevenson as Shakur is hitting is absolute prime years and that's why there are boxers that are avoiding him and just hiding for the excuse that there is not enough money for them to fight him.

[Sanitough]

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

I think anyone can answer this, and the majority would agree that Stevenson will win. Of course, every opponent of Shakur has a good game plan until they taste Stevenson's punches and get tired chasing him. Even bookies would agree; as of now, the current betting odds suggest that Stevenson will win with an 80% to 90% probability.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Shakur Stevenson -800
Edwin De Los Santos +475

[Kemarit]

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

I understand your point, but you have to look not on Shakur but his opponents. Have you heard of De Los Santos name though before this fight? I will honestly say that I never heard his name prior to this fight. And although he has a good record and we can't take that away from him. But as we have said, Shakur talent is above the rest of this division, he is not a champion yet, but it seems that the division has been shaken when Shakur goes up in weight class. Devin Haney became a champion in recess? LOL, goes up at 140 lbs and avoid Stevenson at all cost. And then supposedly Frank Martin, the next hype at this weight class suddenly back up on his words and doesn't want any of Shakur. And the other champion in WBA in Gervonta Davis, is quiet, we don't even hear Davis talking about Shakur to be his next opponent, or even mentioning Stevenson's name in his interviews.

[inthelongrun]

Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

It should be the right thing to do because he can't relax against a knockout artist. As usual, it's expected that he will use his quickness to tire De Los Santos. Eventually, De Los Santos will be frustrated if he cannot land clean shots on Shakur.

Most KO artists rely so much on their power, but when they face a boxer who knows how to use their quickness and has a high IQ in the ring, they struggle, just like Mayweather did against his opponents. Since Shakur is a big fan of Mayweather, we will likely see a fight that focuses more on technical movements rather than being a brawl.

Also, it seems like Shakur's chin is not weak. But we'll see if this division's power punchers can finally shake Shakur. I didn't know Shakur idolized Floyd but it's possible since they are both technical fighters. One thing is sure, Shakur hurt Floyd's feelings after personally attending the Olympics. Floyd was there to support him and at the same time trying to personally convince him to sign with Mayweather Promotions but the kid went with Top Rank.

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

I understand your point, but you have to look not on Shakur but his opponents. Have you heard of De Los Santos name though before this fight? I will honestly say that I never heard his name prior to this fight. And although he has a good record and we can't take that away from him. But as we have said, Shakur talent is above the rest of this division, he is not a champion yet, but it seems that the division has been shaken when Shakur goes up in weight class. Devin Haney became a champion in recess? LOL, goes up at 140 lbs and avoid Stevenson at all cost. And then supposedly Frank Martin, the next hype at this weight class suddenly back up on his words and doesn't want any of Shakur. And the other champion in WBA in Gervonta Davis, is quiet, we don't even hear Davis talking about Shakur to be his next opponent, or even mentioning Stevenson's name in his interviews.

And let's not forget when Kambosos and Lomachenko also said no to Shakur. Although I can understand Loma's point. The guy is likely to retire anytime soon and his dream of becoming undisputed is near to becoming impossible since Haney is expected to vacate all 4 belts which also means he needs to fight the champions 1 by 1 and consider the struggle to negotiate fighters that are signed outside of ESPN. A rematch is also unlikely after Haney barely escaped after getting saved by the judges. So he might as well just take the biggest money fight available before retiring.

I think anyone can answer this, and the majority would agree that Stevenson will win. Of course, every opponent of Shakur has a good game plan until they taste Stevenson's punches and get tired chasing him. Even bookies would agree; as of now, the current betting odds suggest that Stevenson will win with an 80% to 90% probability.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Shakur Stevenson -800
Edwin De Los Santos +475

True. And betting odds aren't the same with celebrities and the media that can talk and analyze but without something at risk. And also it is very hard to stop being an aggressor against Shakur in order to conserve energy. De Los Santos has to train hard and be ready to be the aggressor for the whole 12 rounds. You don't wait because Shakur is too smart for that. And you don't let Shakur become the hunter because of his quick hand speed and footwork. Shakur will win by KO/TKO if De Los Santos allows Shakur to become the aggressor. De Los Santos has to show Shakur that he is there to knock him out from round 1 to 12. He needs to make Shakur retreat and mentally impose that he is the aggressor because he carries the harder punch.

[CryptoBuds]

Finally, Shakur is getting his shot to become a 3-division world champion. It would've been better if he is facing Martin. But it is what it is. Edwin De Los Santos is next in the WBC ranking. We'll see if Shakur can take power punches in this new division.

This might be too early for De Los Santos' career. He is already used to fighting against fellow prospects but never this level of opposition. Shakur will fight smart in the early rounds until he measures his distance and reach. De Los Santos who is not used to fighting long rounds will tire out and gets stopped.

^ So you think Shakur is going to win the fight? I am not trying to say this in any kind of patronizing way. I am just honestly asking. Because I actually thought that his opponent De Los Santos had a chance to win this fight. I know Shakur is actually the better fighter going into this fight. I am not going to debate with anyone about that. Because that is definitely the truth. But at the same time, I do not think that this fight is going to be one-sided or anything like that. Because I think in this fight, de Los Santos is actually going to try to conserve his energy and only go aggressive when he surely has a chance of landing clean shots.

I understand your point, but you have to look not on Shakur but his opponents. Have you heard of De Los Santos name though before this fight? I will honestly say that I never heard his name prior to this fight. And although he has a good record and we can't take that away from him. But as we have said, Shakur talent is above the rest of this division, he is not a champion yet, but it seems that the division has been shaken when Shakur goes up in weight class. Devin Haney became a champion in recess? LOL, goes up at 140 lbs and avoid Stevenson at all cost. And then supposedly Frank Martin, the next hype at this weight class suddenly back up on his words and doesn't want any of Shakur. And the other champion in WBA in Gervonta Davis, is quiet, we don't even hear Davis talking about Shakur to be his next opponent, or even mentioning Stevenson's name in his interviews.

Well, things do look like they are in favour of Shakur. And why won't they be? There is a reason why nobody wants to face him. I absolutely agree with you. Even though I do think that the opponent of Shakur does have a chance, it is most probably going to be Shakur who will be able to win this fight.

I think anyone can answer this, and the majority would agree that Stevenson will win. Of course, every opponent of Shakur has a good game plan until they taste Stevenson's punches and get tired chasing him. Even bookies would agree; as of now, the current betting odds suggest that Stevenson will win with an 80% to 90% probability.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Shakur Stevenson -800
Edwin De Los Santos +475

Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:


everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

[Kasabus]

Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:


everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

The best he's got is a chance? Haha, so you're saying he still won't win, huh? That's pretty straightforward, man. Well, judging by the betting odds, it looks like Shakur would probably treat De Los Santos like an amateur boxer. On paper, they're just not on the same level.

[CryptoBuds]

Yes, that is also true.
Just like the great Mike Tyson side:


everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

I definitely believe that to be true.
I obviously do not think that Los Santos does not have any chance.
He definitely has a chance, but I guess that's the best he has.
Shakur should end up being the winner of this fight.

The best he's got is a chance? Haha, so you're saying he still won't win, huh? That's pretty straightforward, man. Well, judging by the betting odds, it looks like Shakur would probably treat De Los Santos like an amateur boxer. On paper, they're just not on the same level.

In a fight, I always believe that both fighters have a chance to win. Doesn’t matter how one-sided it looks on paper. I know a lot of people are not going to do with me. But I am basically putting myself on the shoes of Santos.

I am thinking if I was him, I would have taken any positives going into this fight. I would have definitely tried to not think about what everyone is saying, and believe that I have a genuine chance to win this fight. But as soon as I put myself in a position of a neutral viewer, I end up, thinking that Shakur is going to win this fight, and there is almost no chance for him to lose against Santos.

[yazher]

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

[Questat]

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

Shakur really believes in himself, you know. His confidence is sky-high, so I'm pretty sure he'll make sure he's in tip-top shape and ready for any fight that comes his way. As for his opponent, well, in my opinion, De Los Santos doesn't seem all that threatening. Sure, he might have some power, but when it comes down to pure boxing skills, Shakur is the boss in that ring. Not that he'll finish the fight easily, but he has this knack for frustrating his opponent. He's got that Mayweather-style strategy, you know, all about defense, but it works like a charm. Of course, some folks find that kind of fight a bit on the boring side.

[Yaunfitda]

I still think that Shakur will beat Delos Santos easy, although the highlights proved the Edwin is good too and he could be a technical and a brawler if he wanted to play so it depends on his opponents.

But again, Shakur is one of the most avoided fighter at light weight, I mean delos Santos is rank 5th, so from 1-4, he is being avoided just like when Frank Martin duck him and hide on the reasons that they want 50/50 split for the vacant WBC belt which is not going to happen because Shakur is the A-side here.

It will be a good fight for him because he cannot waste another month not stepping in the ring because boxers need to be active in their prime in order not to get rusty and slow when they finally meet their right match inside the ring. He just needs to take this fight seriously even though De Los Santos is not of his caliber, he won't be given an easy fight to defeat him rather it will be a motivation for his opponent to train harder in order to surprise him and probably beat him with their unique strategies.

Shakur really believes in himself, you know. His confidence is sky-high, so I'm pretty sure he'll make sure he's in tip-top shape and ready for any fight that comes his way. As for his opponent, well, in my opinion, De Los Santos doesn't seem all that threatening. Sure, he might have some power, but when it comes down to pure boxing skills, Shakur is the boss in that ring. Not that he'll finish the fight easily, but he has this knack for frustrating his opponent. He's got that Mayweather-style strategy, you know, all about defense, but it works like a charm. Of course, some folks find that kind of fight a bit on the boring side.

Yeah, it seems that Shakur is really very confident right now and looking for a great competition. And with that he should be very excited that at least someone is willing to face him and so he will prepare everything against De Los Santos and won't overestimated this guy. Maybe we are seeing some breed of boxers that really copy Floyd's style when they are growing up. Boxers like Shakur and Devin Haney, or even Tank Davis. All this boxers might have learn from watching Floyd's fighting style. I say it's not that bad though to play defense. But majority of the fans wanted to see real action in the ring, like going toe to toe and not much of a running. Alhough Shakur has power as well, specially he is a good body puncher and could knockout his opponent with his body punch.

[Baofeng]

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

[Sanitough]

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

[Yaunfitda]

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

You can hear and understand, M**F***, Lol. For sure, he thinks that he as a good chance to win against Shakur Stevenson. However, boxing fans knows that Shakur is the real deal as many at 135 lbs are avoiding him right now. And it just so happen the De Los Santos, is available and he is open to anyone, but he could be swallowing more than he can chew here. Anyhow, the 135 lbs still has the unified champion in Devin Haney, and hopefully he will come back in this division so that him and Shakur could fight. Although Devin Haney has move up to 140 lbs and fight the champion in Regis Prograis, but he recently said in any interview that he is willing to go back to this division and defend his belt, so we will see how it goes for Shakur

[Sanitough]

And this is what De Los Santos has to say, hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mWG90lOpFeM

He seems to be pretty pump up with his upcoming fights against Shakur Stevenson. And why he wouldn't? I mean this is a great opportunity for him as we say, everyone is ducking Stevenson but not De Los Santos. Still like a month before the fight, so they could be in the hardest part of their training right now.

LOL! even with subtitle I still could not get what he was saying, I just assume that he think he can win? isn't it right? haha. Anyway, whatever he say, it still could not change the fact that majority of the fans believe he would lose, and Shakur would just do the job like another day in the office.

You can hear and understand, M**F***, Lol. For sure, he thinks that he as a good chance to win against Shakur Stevenson. However, boxing fans knows that Shakur is the real deal as many at 135 lbs are avoiding him right now. And it just so happen the De Los Santos, is available and he is open to anyone, but he could be swallowing more than he can chew here. Anyhow, the 135 lbs still has the unified champion in Devin Haney, and hopefully he will come back in this division so that him and Shakur could fight. Although Devin Haney has move up to 140 lbs and fight the champion in Regis Prograis, but he recently said in any interview that he is willing to go back to this division and defend his belt, so we will see how it goes for Shakur

I would be happy for him to think that he could beat Shakur, as this could maintain his high confidence. We enjoy entertainment, and we certainly don't want to see a boxer fighting just to survive. With Shakur's quickness, De Los Santos might easily become frustrated and careless in the ring. However, since Shakur is a very clever fighter, he won't take high risks trying to knock down his opponent. He'll slowly wear down his opponent, and that's what we are likely to witness.

[Kemarit]

Another good card is added to this fight,  Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

[Yamifoud]

Another good card is added to this fight,  Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

[TravelMug]

Another good card is added to this fight,  Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

[Yamifoud]

Another good card is added to this fight,  Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

I went through the records of Robson Conceicao, who is from Brazil. He has 17 wins and only 8 KOs among those wins. Additionally, he's not undefeated, so he seems like a significant downgrade from Navarrete's previous opponent. This will be an opportunity to see how Navarrete works his way to secure an impressive win. I haven't seen the fight highlights of Conceicao yet, but judging from his record, I'd say there isn't much to expect from him.

Hopefully, he'll manage to pull off a surprise.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Another good card is added to this fight,  Emanuel Navarrete vs Robson Conceicao added to Shakur Stevenson card in November.

Just a couple of months ago, Navarette fought Oscar Valdez and beat him. So it's really surprising that he will have another fight in about 2 months against Robson. And as per odds right now, Conceicao is a huge underdog at 6:1.

And I do agree with the odds, Navarette is riding high on his conquest against the favorite Oscar Valdez and Valdez already beat Conceicao, although others says it's controversial. But with Navarette's volume punching, I think it will just be a matter of time before he landed that one big punch to put Robson in the canvass. Or it will be a dominating win by Navarette as the referee will seen enough and stop the fight.

The fight is already good to be a main event, but being on the undercard is fine, especially for fans who enjoy more entertaining fights. Fighting just two months after winning sounds impressive; it seems like Navarrete didn't sustain any damage in the previous fight, or his work ethic is just perfect. Well, who can deny money and fame, right? So let's give it to him. Besides, his opponent is probably a downgrade for Valdez, so it should be easy for him.

Correct, the Navarette vs.Conceicao could be a main event itself. But I guess the promoters find it good idea to have a great exposure if they will be on the undercard of this fight. For sure, because if Navarette has sustained some damaged against Valdez, he could be just resting away and might be thinking of fighting next year after the holidays.

But in true Mexican fashion, he has recovered from that one side beating he gave Valdez, and maybe still fresh from that bout and take on another great challenger in Robson. So still plenty of time for Navarette to prepare against Conceicao and I'm anticipating another classic war between this two, same with the main event in Stevenson vs De Los Santos.

I went through the records of Robson Conceicao, who is from Brazil. He has 17 wins and only 8 KOs among those wins. Additionally, he's not undefeated, so he seems like a significant downgrade from Navarrete's previous opponent. This will be an opportunity to see how Navarrete works his way to secure an impressive win. I haven't seen the fight highlights of Conceicao yet, but judging from his record, I'd say there isn't much to expect from him.

Hopefully, he'll manage to pull off a surprise.

Yes, he might be a downgrade to what Navarette previously face, which is Oscar Valdez. Oscar already beat Robson, but it was really very close fight. But it will still be a good challenge for Navarette as he almost clean up the 130 lbs division already.

And who knows, he might move up to 135 lbs, in which his fight is the undercard on Shakur Stevenson. And as we all know it, Shakur also moved up to 135 lbs and trying to become a champion. Maybe this two will have to fight it out at 135 lbs in Navarette has no challenge anymore at 130 lbs.

[btc_angela]

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

[stadus]

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

[Baofeng]

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

Right, although Shakur is a great boxer and potentially a legend, he somewhat like Crawford, he had a hard time filling up the seats unless the fight is going to be in his hometown, as compare to the likes of Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia, they know how to sell their fights because of their style and their social media following.

And perhaps that is what Shakur is trying to built up, creating buzz so that more people are willing to watch his fight and so he will be a PPV star in the future. So he needs to trash talk, and hitting two birds with one stone with that statement, against Frank Martin and then hyping Edwin De Los Santos as worthy opponent for him.

[Yaunfitda]

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

No big-name opponent because he can't get one, everyone is ducking him and so only De los Santos was willing maybe because he is not a American fighter. And this is why he is dangerous and Stevenson knows it.

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

[Distinctin]

And as per Shakur, he said that maybe Delos Santos is a harder boxer to fight as compare to Frank Martin. Maybe he is just saying this to hype the fight and try to just annoyed Martin as he was supposedly the original fighter that Stevenson was to fight, agreed in verbally and then in the last minute doesn't want to and duck Shakur.

So we will see, we still have a month to go before this fight happens. For now Shakur is the outstanding favourite. But we can only hope that Delos Santos is a tough fighter that will give Stevenson a good test.

That's what he should be saying if he wants to hype up this fight, you know? He knows he's not up against a big-name opponent, so convincing fans to tune in can be tough. But if he starts making some noise and claims his opponent is worthy, that could get people interested. Shakur is the clear favorite according to the bookies; it seems like a one-sided match, and they predict an easy win for him. So, for the regular fans, they might think this fight won't be as exciting as advertised. That's where promotions come in – more trash talk and hype might be just what this fight needs to succeed, I guess.

No big-name opponent because he can't get one, everyone is ducking him and so only De los Santos was willing maybe because he is not a American fighter. And this is why he is dangerous and Stevenson knows it.

Let's wait and see because, to be honest, I haven't seen Shakur struggle in any of his fights. All of his wins seem to come from relatively easy matchups. Considering the quality of De Los Santos, which seems like a step down from Martin, it would indeed be an upset if he manages to beat Shakur.

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

[inthelongrun]

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

So I have the feeling that De Los Santos gets tired in the middle of the fight and that is when Shakur tries to stop him.

[mirakal]

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

So I have the feeling that De Los Santos gets tired in the middle of the fight and that is when Shakur tries to stop him.

De Los Santos needs to work on his quickness if he hopes to catch Shakur. Shakur is a slick fighter with lots of evasive movements, making it tough to land hits on him. It's going to be a challenging task for De Los Santos, but in boxing, nothing is impossible, especially for a fighter with a strong desire to win. This fight presents an opportunity for bettors to place their money on De Los Santos if they believe he has a chance to win.

As for the betting odds, this is currently the picture.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Edwin De Los Santos is +700

[btc_angela]

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

So I have the feeling that De Los Santos gets tired in the middle of the fight and that is when Shakur tries to stop him.

De Los Santos needs to work on his quickness if he hopes to catch Shakur. Shakur is a slick fighter with lots of evasive movements, making it tough to land hits on him. It's going to be a challenging task for De Los Santos, but in boxing, nothing is impossible, especially for a fighter with a strong desire to win. This fight presents an opportunity for bettors to place their money on De Los Santos if they believe he has a chance to win.

As for the betting odds, this is currently the picture.

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/shakur-stevenson-v-edwin-de-los-santos

Edwin De Los Santos is +700

He might have to rely on his power, and again, we have seen power puncher just fell in love with their power and if it is not working they don't have any plan B. So hopefully this is not the case for Edwin De Los Santos.

Shakur obviously has the experience here, and just reiterating that he shouldn't underestimate his opponent just because he is rank like number 6 if I'm not mistaken. We've been saying that Shakur could take over the 135 lbs starting with this fight. But he has to show us something and to all fighters in this weight class, specially Haney. As this is the fight the Shakur wanted next, Haney as the unified champion here. And then he is also calling Loma (perhaps it was good to have Loma in someone's resume).

[Kemarit]

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

Yes, it could be that scenario that Edwin will try to go and make Shakur not comfortable in the becoming. So he could be the aggressor and try to test how good Shakur are, specially avoiding that power of De Los Santos early. Or if he is hit, then how he will react, he has proven his chin so far, but we are now sure if the power of a natural 135 lbs can have a effect of him.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

No doubt about it, in terms of experience, Shakur has the advantage as he faces a lot of great boxers as well in the past. And the weight though, it seems that he is very comfortable now at 135 lbs, no more weight training and I think it will have a positive effect on him.

And with that, I'm expecting a great win by Shakur to cemented his position as the best 135 lbs, next to Devin Haney, on the strength that Haney is the undisputed champion at this weight class.

[bittraffic]

Shakur I think can KO Haney too. It's Tank that he might not be able to last.
Shakur has the skill but we haven't really seen him fight someone who can maneuver him, Shakur always wants to fight from a distance. A prime Pacman or prime Loma would be his very nightmare actually. But definitely, Davis can be Shakurs defeat too. 

Probably why he does tune-up after tune-up when he could really challenge Haney already before this fight is set. He must be waiting or Haney vs Davis.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Shakur I think can KO Haney too. It's Tank that he might not be able to last.
Shakur has the skill but we haven't really seen him fight someone who can maneuver him, Shakur always wants to fight from a distance. A prime Pacman or prime Loma would be his very nightmare actually. But definitely, Davis can be Shakurs defeat too. 

It's because he has superior foot work, I think the closest that he fought with a good lateral movement is Oscar Valdez. But he defeat Valdez easy, he even have multiple knock down scores against Valdez. So it's not that he doesn't face good boxers, he has just a lot of tools in his tool box to beat anyone in the division. We can't compare his fight against prime Pacman or even Loma. But we might see him and Loma fight though, both are under Top Rank and that Loma wanted to take a rest after a close decision lost to Devin Haney.

Speaking of Haney, he will be having his 140 lbs debut against Regis Prograis. So we will see if Regis can break the chin of Haney as you have said, Shakur might KO him. So it's a good test for Haney to fight one of the best power puncher at welterweight.

Probably why he does tune-up after tune-up when he could really challenge Haney already before this fight is set. He must be waiting or Haney vs Davis.

It's because according to him, they are ducking him. If you go back a few conversations back, Frank Martin was his original opponent, they agreed already. But in the last minute Martin doesn't want to agree on financial terms. Haney suddenly goes up to 140 lbs after defeating Loma.

Loma says no, George Kambosos, former unified champion doesn't want to fight Haney as well. So it's not like he wanted to fight for tune-up after tune-up, it's that no one wanted to fight him.

[Yaunfitda]

I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

Yeah, and this is what I'm trying to say, the aggressive and style of Delos Santos, he want's to take the lead by Shakur might counter him all day. Just like in the Spence vs Crawford fight. Wherein it started as a chess game, but when Spence was making a lot of mistakes as he try to be the aggressor, Crawford take advantage of it and eventually score a knock down that change the complexion of the fight.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

So I have the feeling that De Los Santos gets tired in the middle of the fight and that is when Shakur tries to stop him.

I think Delos Santos will go and opt for being the aggressor here, he can't just laid back and let Shakur be the aggressor. He has a tough chin as well so he will go early. So it's going to be a good battle, while Shakur picking up his shots while Delos Santos is coming in. For sure him though have work with that gas and stamina. He needed that if this fight will go full 12 rounds.

[Yaunfitda]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

But it's very different though, I mean Shakur is in his prime and Sean doesn't have that power in my opinion. So Shakur might be right, this MMA fighters should just stay in their lane as not all of them can cross over to the Boxing world or beat a great boxer.

[yazher]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Since a crossover fight has some big profit, they are making some drama to hype the fans and make it seem like they have a beep until they finally meet in the ring. This is just business and I can't blame them if they wanted to have such a fight since they are still in their prime and their popularity is quite high, they are using it to make money and that's just how the way it is for them. It's obvious that they are hoping to fight in the Middle East as well where the payment is a juicy and life-changing opportunity.

[Kemarit]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Since a crossover fight has some big profit, they are making some drama to hype the fans and make it seem like they have a beep until they finally meet in the ring. This is just business and I can't blame them if they wanted to have such a fight since they are still in their prime and their popularity is quite high, they are using it to make money and that's just how the way it is for them. It's obvious that they are hoping to fight in the Middle East as well where the payment is a juicy and life-changing opportunity.

This is also what I'm thinking when I saw news about Suga O'Malley mentioning Shakur Stevenson as his possible opponents in the future. I mean he wanted to follow the footsteps of no less than Conor McGregor who become one of the most successful MMA fighter who did go over boxing and fight Floyd Mayweather.

And perhaps this is a insurance for him that if he will ever retire from MMA, then maybe he could find a worthy opponent in the future that could bring him money. And currently, Shakur is very hot so why not Suga uses his name and hype it?

[Hirose UK]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Sean O'Malley still holds the belt in the UFC so why would he want to fight Shakur Stevenson and when this fight does happen but Sean loses it will embarrass him.
In contrast to the Ngannou vs Fury fight it is clear that it is a worthy fight in fact from that fight Ngannou managed to enter the ranking of the 10 best boxers from the WBC.

But it's very different though, I mean Shakur is in his prime and Sean doesn't have that power in my opinion. So Shakur might be right, this MMA fighters should just stay in their lane as not all of them can cross over to the Boxing world or beat a great boxer.

From what Shakur Stevenson said this is correct because Sean could not have just entered the boxing ring and fought him.
It requires quite lot of experience and also series of training that Sean must undergo if he wants to fight Shakur, and even then it is not certain that Sean can win.

[btc_angela]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Since a crossover fight has some big profit, they are making some drama to hype the fans and make it seem like they have a beep until they finally meet in the ring. This is just business and I can't blame them if they wanted to have such a fight since they are still in their prime and their popularity is quite high, they are using it to make money and that's just how the way it is for them. It's obvious that they are hoping to fight in the Middle East as well where the payment is a juicy and life-changing opportunity.

Most likely, and we have seen some successful crossover fight too, so it make sense for O'Malley to call out Shakur but I don't think that this fight is going to happen as both as very busy conquering their own division in their respective sports. An as fans of Shakur, I think he is very motivated and focus to become undisputed champion at 135 lbs and this is just his first step, to fight De Los Santos this November.

Fight is getting closer as well, everyone should be excited to see this second week of November. The odds hasn't change a bit, Shakur is still the favorite and I don't think we are going to see some swings as the fight goes closer.

[inthelongrun]

This pops on my social media, Stevenson is fuming mad about "Suga" Sean O'Malley, UFC's bantamweight champion. It seems that Sean wanted to fight Shakur? Recently we have seen Francis Ngannou almost upsets Tyson Fury.

Since a crossover fight has some big profit, they are making some drama to hype the fans and make it seem like they have a beep until they finally meet in the ring. This is just business and I can't blame them if they wanted to have such a fight since they are still in their prime and their popularity is quite high, they are using it to make money and that's just how the way it is for them. It's obvious that they are hoping to fight in the Middle East as well where the payment is a juicy and life-changing opportunity.

This is also what I'm thinking when I saw news about Suga O'Malley mentioning Shakur Stevenson as his possible opponents in the future. I mean he wanted to follow the footsteps of no less than Conor McGregor who become one of the most successful MMA fighter who did go over boxing and fight Floyd Mayweather.

And perhaps this is a insurance for him that if he will ever retire from MMA, then maybe he could find a worthy opponent in the future that could bring him money. And currently, Shakur is very hot so why not Suga uses his name and hype it?

If only Dana is paying its fighters at least half of what boxing stars are given then maybe its fighters won't dream about getting humiliated and knocked out in a boxing fight. All of them want that big money of course. The Pink Poodle is still under a UFC contract but I am sure that once it is coming to its end he will start to negotiate with the big names in boxing like Shakur and Tank.

I am happy that Ngannou got those big bucks. And another round of at least $10 million is on the way since he only lost to a very close fight with Fury which means the demand continues. So far both Matchroom and PBC are vying for their bids on Ngannou to match him against their own stars AJ and Wilder. But as much as I like Ngannou to score an upset over Fury, I still believe that he just had the perfect night while the champion had his worst night. I'm sticking to my earlier assessment that Ngannou can't still beat any of the top 10 in boxing.

[Shamm]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

Yes you are right that mate and we all know how smart Stevenson is so without a doubt that he has  the high percentage of winning in this fight against de Los santos. But one thing for sure delos Santos will have a new technique as we all know that once he use his old one then delos Santos have a chance being knock out by Stevenson. An that's must be in delos Santos training, this fight is worth To be watch so hoping that there's no cancelation of this .

[Sanitough]

Fight is getting closer as well, everyone should be excited to see this second week of November. The odds hasn't change a bit, Shakur is still the favorite and I don't think we are going to see some swings as the fight goes closer.

No, there won't be any changes in the odds because it's not a team game. If one boxer is injured, the fight will either be postponed or, in the worst case, canceled. As expected, Stevenson is listed as the heavy favorite with only 1.08 odds. It may not be very attractive, but if you look at the bright side, it's almost like guaranteed money in this fight.

Currently, the odds are as follows:

Stevenson 1.08
De Los Santos 6.80

Over 10.5 rounds 1.22
Under 10.5 rounds 3.85

[Jating]

Fight is getting closer as well, everyone should be excited to see this second week of November. The odds hasn't change a bit, Shakur is still the favorite and I don't think we are going to see some swings as the fight goes closer.

No, there won't be any changes in the odds because it's not a team game. If one boxer is injured, the fight will either be postponed or, in the worst case, canceled. As expected, Stevenson is listed as the heavy favorite with only 1.08 odds. It may not be very attractive, but if you look at the bright side, it's almost like guaranteed money in this fight.

Currently, the odds are as follows:

Stevenson 1.08
De Los Santos 6.80

Over 10.5 rounds 1.22
Under 10.5 rounds 3.85

Under 10.5 rounds is very attractive odds indeed, but it's a long shot as it seems that Delos Santos is going to be a tough customer for Stevenson. There is no decision win by Shakur though, I was wondering why casinos are not yet listed that, at least on the favorite casinos that I'm betting.

So I might want to wait for that, if the odds will be like 1.8x something, maybe I will go with that one.

Obviously, ML is not worth it, Or for those who wanted to think that there will be an upset, then everything on Delos Santos will be good. Or at least throw some money on him just for sake of that good odds for him to win.

[Dave1]

Everyone looks for for Stevenson right now as there are news that he had a partnership with a shoe company-Reebok. Not sure if I've heard partnership deals before as far as boxing shoe goes, it's mostly on basketball and other sports.

But with this one, Stevenson is breaking grounds and it just proved the hype around him with this partnership.

And maybe this is just a precedent for other great boxers too to be paid by this big shoe company like Nike and Adidas.

[btc_angela]

^^ If I'm not mistaken, during Manny Pacquiao's reign he has a deal with Nike and I remember him having a Philippine flag shoe. However, the deal was cut when Manny made some controversial statement.

Anyhow, it's just 2 weeks before this fight and we are going to see the face-off next week and we will finally see if Stevenson can continue his run and become a champion as he has been chasing them at 135 lbs. For sure Devin Haney could be in the crowd to watch the fight live and see first hand how good Shakur and what will be their strategy if ever their face each other in the future.

[Baofeng]

De Los Santos is still a huge underdog 7:1 against Shakur. So in paper it really looks the Edwin has a good record and could be pull some upsets. But based on the odds by the sport makers, that is not the case. Shakur will be too good for De Los Santos that we there is no value in betting for Shakur unless you are willing to throw huge money on him.

And as we already know, Navarette is also in the undercard here against Conceicao. But the odds is still the same, Robson is 7:1 underdog too.

It's just a week before this fight, so obviously, it's better to look for more value in our bets.

[coin-investor]

De Los Santos is still a huge underdog 7:1 against Shakur. So in paper it really looks the Edwin has a good record and could be pull some upsets. But based on the odds by the sport makers, that is not the case. Shakur will be too good for De Los Santos that we there is no value in betting for Shakur unless you are willing to throw huge money on him.

And as we already know, Navarette is also in the undercard here against Conceicao. But the odds is still the same, Robson is 7:1 underdog too.

It's just a week before this fight, so obviously, it's better to look for more value in our bets.

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

[bisdak40]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

[coin-investor]

Everyone looks for for Stevenson right now as there are news that he had a partnership with a shoe company-Reebok. Not sure if I've heard partnership deals before as far as boxing shoe goes, it's mostly on basketball and other sports.

But with this one, Stevenson is breaking grounds and it just proved the hype around him with this partnership.

And maybe this is just a precedent for other great boxers too to be paid by this big shoe company like Nike and Adidas.

Yes it's confirmed they do have a partnership, he is the latest athlete to sign up with Reebok, with this partnership this verified Shakur's status as a superstar in boxing, let's see if he will live up to expectation of his sponsor, yes he will be a huge favorite against Delos Santos but his superstar status will be challenged by the likes of Gervonta Davis, Haney, Romero, Lopez and Garcia he will need to beat them to attain a legit status in this era.
I'm sure Shakur can deal Delos Santos, I just wish Delos Santos will give Shakur a good fight and not just a stepping stone for Shakur's greatness.

By the way if you're interested in their open work out check out Top Rank channel coming in 6 hours as I'm posting this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0bkdr1SDpc
 

Beginning in November 2023, Shakur and Reebok will work together to drive hype ahead of his November 16 title fight in Las Vegas while bringing awareness and validation to Reebok’s lifestyle and performance product stories through the end of the year.

Reebok & Shakur Stevenson Announce Partnership

[Kasabus]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

The odds are quite appealing, especially with 12 rounds to wait for the KO to occur. While Stevenson isn't known for being a knockout artist, De Los Santos is an aggressive fighter. If De Los Santos becomes careless or desperate, Stevenson might capitalize on the opportunity to land effective counter punches, potentially wearing down De Los Santos.

I agree with your prediction, mate. A 3.30 odds are always more enticing than 1.28.

[Baofeng]

Yes, it's already fight week, odds hasn't change, Stevenson is the huge favorite so for sure majority of us are looking for a value for our bets already.

“I can’t wait. It’s going to be very exciting. You’ve got the tough Edwin De Los Santos, but I’m here to whoop his ass,” Stevenson vowed.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-de-los-santos-tough-im-here-whoop-his-ass--179238

Shakur by KO is very attractive @3.65, and as per poll he will likely win by this method. And then Shakur by decision @1.38.



The over/under rounds too might be something that we can look at. it's +/- 10.5 rounds.

[Yaunfitda]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

Yes, it will be more exciting if Edwin will go and engage and not just talk about it but in the actual fight he is not doing it. However, he hasn't face a opponent as clever or having that high boxing IQ like Stevenson. So it's good to bet that this fight might not go to distance as Stevenson might break Delos Santos in the middle to championship round.

But in any case anyone from Dominican Republic wanted to support their boy and to make history, then yeah, why not go for it and see how Edwin will do and win it for his country and make history. However, for experience bettor, as you have said, it could be a dominant win by Stevenson and uses his counter to negate what Delos Santos can offer and then the fight going into distance like a snore feast.

[Kemarit]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

The odds are quite appealing, especially with 12 rounds to wait for the KO to occur. While Stevenson isn't known for being a knockout artist, De Los Santos is an aggressive fighter. If De Los Santos becomes careless or desperate, Stevenson might capitalize on the opportunity to land effective counter punches, potentially wearing down De Los Santos.

I agree with your prediction, mate. A 3.30 odds are always more enticing than 1.28.

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.

Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

[bisdak40]

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.

Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

That KO odds for Steveson is tempting indeed but Shakur is unpredictable with the KO win, i mean he doesn't always go for that kind of win, he will not force the issue if the chance is not there that may be the reason why bookies believed that this fight would go the distance especially that De Los Santos is not a push-over fighter.

[Kasabus]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

The odds are quite appealing, especially with 12 rounds to wait for the KO to occur. While Stevenson isn't known for being a knockout artist, De Los Santos is an aggressive fighter. If De Los Santos becomes careless or desperate, Stevenson might capitalize on the opportunity to land effective counter punches, potentially wearing down De Los Santos.

I agree with your prediction, mate. A 3.30 odds are always more enticing than 1.28.

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

Is the odds for a KO win still the same? If that's the case, there's really no incentive to go for a KO win under 10.5 rounds since we have a better chance of winning if we bet on the fight going the distance. Stevenson isn't particularly known for securing victories via KO in the majority of his matches, so we're essentially betting against the odds here. But that's what makes gambling so exciting, it adds an extra layer of excitement.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.


Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

Great analysis! Indeed, Stevenson has a need to maintain a good reputation in this division since some view him as a boring fighter. Securing a victory via KO could really elevate his status in the boxing world, sparking conversations about the unexpected from Stevenson.

The catch, however, is that Stevenson is already a guaranteed winner. The only scenario where we might face a loss is if the victory doesn't come through a KO. (That's the risk of our bet)

[bittraffic]

Fighters that we think are going to be underdogs are underdogs come Sunday it will be regular boxing day, where the favorites will dominate or even knock out the underdogs but I'm hoping for a very different scenario, like a huge upset or the underdogs putting up a valiant effort even thought they lose by decision, one case here is the Ngannou - Fury recent fight where we all thought its another favorite underdog scenario, but Ngannou putting a major surprise.
I hope to see this happens in any of the fight this Sunday, just a gallant effort from the underdogs is already good.
People are paying to have a good fight so I hope we'll see something unexpected come Sunday

Yup, at least they will give us a good fight as most probably the underdog will lose here as Stevenson is a clever boxer and him being the loser is a slim possibility. I'm hoping that De Los Santos would engage and take the fight to Shakur because if not, this could become a snore feast as the latter is more of a counter-puncher.



Bookies predict that this would end up in a decision so i'm really hoping that this would not be a boring fight.

The odds are quite appealing, especially with 12 rounds to wait for the KO to occur. While Stevenson isn't known for being a knockout artist, De Los Santos is an aggressive fighter. If De Los Santos becomes careless or desperate, Stevenson might capitalize on the opportunity to land effective counter punches, potentially wearing down De Los Santos.

I agree with your prediction, mate. A 3.30 odds are always more enticing than 1.28.

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

Is the odds for a KO win still the same? If that's the case, there's really no incentive to go for a KO win under 10.5 rounds since we have a better chance of winning if we bet on the fight going the distance. Stevenson isn't particularly known for securing victories via KO in the majority of his matches, so we're essentially betting against the odds here. But that's what makes gambling so exciting, it adds an extra layer of excitement.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.


Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

Great analysis! Indeed, Stevenson has a need to maintain a good reputation in this division since some view him as a boring fighter. Securing a victory via KO could really elevate his status in the boxing world, sparking conversations about the unexpected from Stevenson.

The catch, however, is that Stevenson is already a guaranteed winner. The only scenario where we might face a loss is if the victory doesn't come through a KO. (That's the risk of our bet)

It could be a UD. Shakur is a technical fighter but considerably not a KO artist, he has 10 KOs and 10 UDs under his belt. de los Santos is more of a KO artist than him, he has 16 KOs with 1 L.

Shakur by KO is still a bet to reckon with. The fight might actually do the distance til UD and still Shakur. That's what I think would happen and Shakur by decision 1.37 makes sense for the platform.

[Dave1]

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.

Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

That KO odds for Steveson is tempting indeed but Shakur is unpredictable with the KO win, i mean he doesn't always go for that kind of win, he will not force the issue if the chance is not there that may be the reason why bookies believed that this fight would go the distance especially that De Los Santos is not a push-over fighter.

That's how technical he is, if things are very different as he plan, Shakur might plan a different route and go to distance but it's not going to be controversial, like in the Herring fight. Or it could be as brutal as the Oscar Valdez fight. He made Valdez looks amateurish in that fight and then knock him down and dominated the fight.

So gonna be hard to predict the fight. But if we are looking for a good odds, then yes, winning via KO is good as the odds is still as high as 3.x something. As maybe De Los Santos might just be good in paper, but when they go out in the ring, he will be overwhelmed by Shakur's technical ability and he can't adjust and then just being bully in the ring by Stevenson's boxing IQ.

[freedomgo]

So gonna be hard to predict the fight. But if we are looking for a good odds, then yes, winning via KO is good as the odds is still as high as 3.x something. As maybe De Los Santos might just be good in paper, but when they go out in the ring, he will be overwhelmed by Shakur's technical ability and he can't adjust and then just being bully in the ring by Stevenson's boxing IQ.

The only good thing about De Los Santos is that he has a high KO rate; other than that, I don't see anything special about him. I'm sure Shakur has fought opponents before with a better resume. Since De Los Santos is a KO artist, he will likely play his style and chase Shakur to try to knock him down. So, there's a big chance that Shakur could also win via KO, as De Los Santos would be vulnerable if he keeps chasing while disrespecting the power of Shakur and not maintaining good defense.

[Baofeng]

Here is the weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEKIQ0bW_0k

Stevenson - 133.8 pounds
De Los Santos - 134.3 pounds

Conceicao - 129.3 pounds
Navarette - 130 pounds

Obviously Shakur is way below the 135 pounds limit. Nevertheless I don't see any problem with it. There's some trash talking during the face off, however, I understand that Edwin speak little English. But obviously, boxing has no language barrier, someone's ass gonna be whoop this weekend though.

[Kemarit]

We will see, that's quite appealing odds for a KO for Stevenson, specially if he will do it in under 10.5 rounds. And if someone either bet on that, it's going to be a big win as the odds is above 3.xx which is very attractive.

So let's see how Stevenson will perform here, I'm starting to like this kid, so I will go with him winning via KO.

Nothing is great by betting on a huge odds like it and there could also a chance that you could score a KO because he needed a signature win in this division.

That KO odds for Steveson is tempting indeed but Shakur is unpredictable with the KO win, i mean he doesn't always go for that kind of win, he will not force the issue if the chance is not there that may be the reason why bookies believed that this fight would go the distance especially that De Los Santos is not a push-over fighter.

I don't know mate, I have a feeling that Shakur might go in this fight and trying to proved himself in this division. So he will be looking for a KO win, and definitely I think he will be fast here. I'm thinking that he will go enough for the body of Edwin and test it out.

And he is the taller guy, I'm not saying the bigger but the taller in terms of height. It looks like Edwin is a big smaller in this division. I mentioned this because I'm again, seeing that Stevenson will take advantage of his height and length and jab and then look for the body of Edwin to try and soften him and then he will take the heads later.

[Saisher]

Obviously Shakur is way below the 135 pounds limit. Nevertheless I don't see any problem with it. There's some trash talking during the face off, however, I understand that Edwin speak little English. But obviously, boxing has no language barrier, someone's ass gonna be whoop this weekend though.

Shakur initiates the thrash talk and Delos Santos has his corner to translate for him, Shakur is just playing Shakur we know that he is always like that imposing his character and his will against opponents that he think he can beat, we hope De Los Santos will surprise him and not intimidated comes fight night, this is an exciting fight to watch because both fighters have a good record, but Shakur has too much experience against De Los Santos so I'm sure he'll come out the winner and could be a stoppage in the latter rounds.

[freedomgo]

Obviously Shakur is way below the 135 pounds limit. Nevertheless I don't see any problem with it. There's some trash talking during the face off, however, I understand that Edwin speak little English. But obviously, boxing has no language barrier, someone's ass gonna be whoop this weekend though.

So, it's a go. But isn't this fight happening tomorrow? So, it's not yet the weekend, unless we have a different timezone. But anyway, thanks for the update. Although this fight isn't as hype as the fights of the KO artist, I'm interested to see how De Los Santos would solve the problems Shakur's opponents have faced in the past.

I don't know mate, I have a feeling that Shakur might go in this fight and trying to proved himself in this division. So he will be looking for a KO win, and definitely I think he will be fast here. I'm thinking that he will go enough for the body of Edwin and test it out.

And he is the taller guy, I'm not saying the bigger but the taller in terms of height. It looks like Edwin is a big smaller in this division. I mentioned this because I'm again, seeing that Stevenson will take advantage of his height and length and jab and then look for the body of Edwin to try and soften him and then he will take the heads later.

That's a wild imagination, my friend. But of course, we never know what could happen here. As Shakur is a proven winner, he would easily win through points since he is quicker. However, if he looks to impress the fans and not be tagged as a boring fighter like Haney, then he should probably go for the knockout win against a boxer who's never been KO'd.

[rodskee]

Looking at how De Los Santos moves, I believe Stevenson can score an easy knockdown against De Los Santos.  De Los Santos is left very open every time he throws his punches.  See the videos, his hands are too far for defense when he throws power punches.  I think this kind of defense will be easily exploited by Stevenson so I believe that Stevenson will win this fight via knockout.

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Almost same observation here , and that Delos Santos Weakness will make Him lose if not Knockdown
not Unless he will change this or trying to use as trap for Shakur then he has no chance of winning (or maybe Lucky punch)
Stevenson's ability to win is almost 60% while only 40 for Delos Santos.

Actually Am not a fan of either Boxer But have watched several fights of them to observe
As I am also planning watch because there are no interested fight anytime soon to enjoy .

[Yaunfitda]

Obviously Shakur is way below the 135 pounds limit. Nevertheless I don't see any problem with it. There's some trash talking during the face off, however, I understand that Edwin speak little English. But obviously, boxing has no language barrier, someone's ass gonna be whoop this weekend though.

Shakur initiates the thrash talk and Delos Santos has his corner to translate for him, Shakur is just playing Shakur we know that he is always like that imposing his character and his will against opponents that he think he can beat, we hope De Los Santos will surprise him and not intimidated comes fight night, this is an exciting fight to watch because both fighters have a good record, but Shakur has too much experience against De Los Santos so I'm sure he'll come out the winner and could be a stoppage in the latter rounds.

There could be some translations, but I don't know how effective could have been if they really understand each other perfectly. I still remember Broner giving Marcos Maidana a lot of trash talking but then during weigh-in but Broner face has no emotions because simply he don't speak English and so he doesn't understand what Broner is trying to say.

But I do agree that with Shakur experience fighting high caliber boxers, it could be just like a tune up fight for him. And hopefully Frank Martin, his original opponent will be next for him so that we will see a almost level fight as Martin for me is a level up compare to Edwin.

[Japinat]

Obviously Shakur is way below the 135 pounds limit. Nevertheless I don't see any problem with it. There's some trash talking during the face off, however, I understand that Edwin speak little English. But obviously, boxing has no language barrier, someone's ass gonna be whoop this weekend though.

Shakur initiates the thrash talk and Delos Santos has his corner to translate for him, Shakur is just playing Shakur we know that he is always like that imposing his character and his will against opponents that he think he can beat, we hope De Los Santos will surprise him and not intimidated comes fight night, this is an exciting fight to watch because both fighters have a good record, but Shakur has too much experience against De Los Santos so I'm sure he'll come out the winner and could be a stoppage in the latter rounds.

There could be some translations, but I don't know how effective could have been if they really understand each other perfectly. I still remember Broner giving Marcos Maidana a lot of trash talking but then during weigh-in but Broner face has no emotions because simply he don't speak English and so he doesn't understand what Broner is trying to say.

You mean Maidana showed no emotion... But in that fight, that's where the career of Broner got ruined because Maidana humiliated him with his vicious attacks. However, Shakur is different because he is at the top level. When Maidana fought Broner, he already had Mayweather as a problem in their fight prior to that, so we can say that he really is a great boxer.

But I do agree that with Shakur experience fighting high caliber boxers, it could be just like a tune up fight for him. And hopefully Frank Martin, his original opponent will be next for him so that we will see a almost level fight as Martin for me is a level up compare to Edwin.

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

[bisdak40]

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

Shakur should perform well on this fight so that he could get to dance with the big boys of the lightweight division. Top Rank boss, Bob Arum has a plan to pair him with Loma or Devin Haney if he comes out impressive on this one.

But the thing with Shakur is that if his opponent is not aggressive, his fight tend to be boring too, i hope not on this one as i want him to defeat Haney who robbed Loma on the latter's last fight.

[Viscore]

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

Shakur should perform well on this fight so that he could get to dance with the big boys of the lightweight division. Top Rank boss, Bob Arum has a plan to pair him with Loma or Devin Haney if he comes out impressive on this one.

But the thing with Shakur is that if his opponent is not aggressive, his fight tend to be boring too, i hope not on this one as i want him to defeat Haney who robbed Loma on the latter's last fight.

Shakur vs Loma would be a good matchup. Please, no Haney. Let Haney successfully move with a win, so they'll not meet, as we know the fight would be too boring to watch. People might not watch it, and promoters will not make money.

The controversy that Loma got robbed; he could redeem himself if he could beat Shakur, and I'm sure Haney will come aggressively asking for a rematch.

[inthelongrun]

Yes, it's already fight week, odds hasn't change, Stevenson is the huge favorite so for sure majority of us are looking for a value for our bets already.

“I can’t wait. It’s going to be very exciting. You’ve got the tough Edwin De Los Santos, but I’m here to whoop his ass,” Stevenson vowed.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-de-los-santos-tough-im-here-whoop-his-ass--179238

Shakur by KO is very attractive @3.65, and as per poll he will likely win by this method. And then Shakur by decision @1.38.



The over/under rounds too might be something that we can look at. it's +/- 10.5 rounds.

So is anyone taking these betting odds? I might take a bet on a Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Honestly, I am starting to get annoyed with his trash-talking as if he is a KO artist.

But still, I am very doubtful of De Los Santos since this is his first title fight and this is also his first 12-rounder fight IIRC. And with the level of opponent, he is facing he can get tired if he can't connect. Unless he is training to survive rather than take his chances of winning this fight. If De Los Santos backpedals and tries to counter Shakur, he might survive but he will definitely lose by a wide decision or even a shutout.

I did not expect this fight to happen on a weekday since championship fights happen during weekends except in Japan where they have their own ways.

[Hypnosis00]

So is anyone taking these betting odds? I might take a bet on a Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Honestly, I am starting to get annoyed with his trash-talking as if he is a KO artist.

But still, I am very doubtful of De Los Santos since this is his first title fight and this is also his first 12-rounder fight IIRC. And with the level of opponent, he is facing he can get tired if he can't connect. Unless he is training to survive rather than take his chances of winning this fight. If De Los Santos backpedals and tries to counter Shakur, he might survive but he will definitely lose by a wide decision or even a shutout.

I did not expect this fight to happen on a weekday since championship fights happen during weekends except in Japan where they have their own ways.

De los Santos is a KO artist, not used to fighting a 12-round fight, so we might see him tired and frustrated at the same time. That's where Shakur could take advantage, and since he also has some KO wins in the past, it's possible that it will happen again. Well, just a few hours of sleep, and we will finally find out who will win here and how the winner would win, so missing the chance to bet is a big sin.

[yazher]

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

This is the new norm right now when they find out that their opponent is always knocking out everybody that crosses against him inside the ring, they often stay away from them until they're no longer in their prime. that's why we often see that good boxers in our time rarely have fights with the right opponent because they don't want to take risks when they are young and make lots of money by keeping their record clean. Some of them took a year or two before getting a blockbuster fight and some are just waiting until now just like Beterbiev.

[cabron]

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

This is the new norm right now when they find out that their opponent is always knocking out everybody that crosses against him inside the ring, they often stay away from them until they're no longer in their prime. that's why we often see that good boxers in our time rarely have fights with the right opponent because they don't want to take risks when they are young and make lots of money by keeping their record clean. Some of them took a year or two before getting a blockbuster fight and some are just waiting until now just like Beterbiev.

Just like Haney who suddenly decided to jump on 140 lbs to fight Prograis ultimately leaving his belt. Santos has the balls to face Shakur at least.
Many of them in this division still have no balls to challenge Loma now that the guy shows signs of rustiness, they were still avoiding him. 

Frank Martin and Loma should have been fighting already, it would be cool to watch Southpaw vs Southpaw.  But after years in the division, they haven't crossed yet.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Shakur should not take it too seriously, so Frank Martin will be interested in fighting him. Because if Shakur comes out dominant again, no one would want to dance with him in the ring unless they are a mandatory opponent.

This is the new norm right now when they find out that their opponent is always knocking out everybody that crosses against him inside the ring, they often stay away from them until they're no longer in their prime. that's why we often see that good boxers in our time rarely have fights with the right opponent because they don't want to take risks when they are young and make lots of money by keeping their record clean. Some of them took a year or two before getting a blockbuster fight and some are just waiting until now just like Beterbiev.

Just like Haney who suddenly decided to jump on 140 lbs to fight Prograis ultimately leaving his belt. Santos has the balls to face Shakur at least.
Many of them in this division still have no balls to challenge Loma now that the guy shows signs of rustiness, they were still avoiding him. 

Frank Martin and Loma should have been fighting already, it would be cool to watch Southpaw vs Southpaw.  But after years in the division, they haven't crossed yet.

And that's why Stevenson becoming one of the most avoided fighter, as Haney suddenly jump to 140 lbs and obviously, doesn't want to fight Shakur. Or Frank Martin, who according to Shakur has agreed verbally to fight him and then we expect that he should be fighting Stevenson, but suddenly him or someone from his camp demanded more money and so the fight was cancelled. For Loma though, he said that he doesn't want to fight after his controversial lost to Haney. I don't think that he is afraid of Shakur, but we all know that there are noises in the background like the war in his native country. So let's see how far Stevenson can take his hype, him and Tank Davis at 135 lbs should be the best fight after Tank vs Garcia.

[bisdak40]

So is anyone taking these betting odds? I might take a bet on a Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Honestly, I am starting to get annoyed with his trash-talking as if he is a KO artist.

But still, I am very doubtful of De Los Santos since this is his first title fight and this is also his first 12-rounder fight IIRC. And with the level of opponent, he is facing he can get tired if he can't connect. Unless he is training to survive rather than take his chances of winning this fight. If De Los Santos backpedals and tries to counter Shakur, he might survive but he will definitely lose by a wide decision or even a shutout.

I did not expect this fight to happen on a weekday since championship fights happen during weekends except in Japan where they have their own ways.

They are giving way for the Formula 1 that would be held on the weekend, that's why they are doing this on a late Thursday night.

As of this writing, no result yet for the main event but the co-main event between Navarrete and Conceicao has gone to a draw even if the former has dropped the latter twice. The score was 113-113 for the two judges while judge Don Trella scored it 114-112 for Navarrete.

[Yaunfitda]

So is anyone taking these betting odds? I might take a bet on a Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Honestly, I am starting to get annoyed with his trash-talking as if he is a KO artist.

But still, I am very doubtful of De Los Santos since this is his first title fight and this is also his first 12-rounder fight IIRC. And with the level of opponent, he is facing he can get tired if he can't connect. Unless he is training to survive rather than take his chances of winning this fight. If De Los Santos backpedals and tries to counter Shakur, he might survive but he will definitely lose by a wide decision or even a shutout.

I did not expect this fight to happen on a weekday since championship fights happen during weekends except in Japan where they have their own ways.

They are giving way for the Formula 1 that would be held on the weekend, that's why they are doing this on a late Thursday night.

As of this writing, no result yet for the main event but the co-main event between Navarrete and Conceicao has gone to a draw even if the former has dropped the latter twice. The score was 113-113 for the two judges while judge Don Trella scored it 114-112 for Navarrete.

And as everyone has expected, Stevenson has been dominating the fight, and I only gave Delos Santos just one round though. Or order for Edwin to win, he has to score a knockout but I doubt that he can do that against Shakur.

But I'm expecting that someone will comment that this is a snooze fight, or boring.

However, a win is a win and so with that, Stevenson is going to continue with his ascend to the 135 lbs. And it just weird though that this fight is not on weekends as most fight fans think that this should be Sunday US time.

Controversial win by Navarette, I don't know, but it could go either way and it seems to me that Robson was "Rob" again.

[Sanitough]

So is anyone taking these betting odds? I might take a bet on a Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Honestly, I am starting to get annoyed with his trash-talking as if he is a KO artist.

But still, I am very doubtful of De Los Santos since this is his first title fight and this is also his first 12-rounder fight IIRC. And with the level of opponent, he is facing he can get tired if he can't connect. Unless he is training to survive rather than take his chances of winning this fight. If De Los Santos backpedals and tries to counter Shakur, he might survive but he will definitely lose by a wide decision or even a shutout.

I did not expect this fight to happen on a weekday since championship fights happen during weekends except in Japan where they have their own ways.

They are giving way for the Formula 1 that would be held on the weekend, that's why they are doing this on a late Thursday night.

As of this writing, no result yet for the main event but the co-main event between Navarrete and Conceicao has gone to a draw even if the former has dropped the latter twice. The score was 113-113 for the two judges while judge Don Trella scored it 114-112 for Navarrete.

And as everyone has expected, Stevenson has been dominating the fight, and I only gave Delos Santos just one round though. Or order for Edwin to win, he has to score a knockout but I doubt that he can do that against Shakur.

But I'm expecting that someone will comment that this is a snooze fight, or boring.

However, a win is a win and so with that, Stevenson is going to continue with his ascend to the 135 lbs. And it just weird though that this fight is not on weekends as most fight fans think that this should be Sunday US time.

A bunch of us threw our bets on Shaku scoring a KO victory, but no luck there. As predicted, it turned out to be a UD win for Shakur, and let's be honest, it was kinda dull. He totally dominated the whole fight. You can clearly see Floyd's influence, making boxers unbeatable but, let's face it, a bit on the boring side.

I'm not holding my breath for an exciting Shakur fight unless he's up against someone strong and quick enough to actually give him a real challenge.

Controversial win by Navarette, I don't know, but it could go either way and it seems to me that Robson was "Rob" again.

I think it ended as Majority DRAW.

[FinneysTrueVision]

And as everyone has expected, Stevenson has been dominating the fight, and I only gave Delos Santos just one round though. Or order for Edwin to win, he has to score a knockout but I doubt that he can do that against Shakur.

But I'm expecting that someone will comment that this is a snooze fight, or boring.

That was the worst main event I've seen all year. Shakur showed that he can avoid punches but he refused to do anything meaningful offensively. Stevenson can't claim that he is the most ducked fighter when he does nothing worth considering him an appealing opponent. If you really are better than Haney and Tank then there is no excuse for fighting scared against much inferior competition.

Controversial win by Navarette, I don't know, but it could go either way and it seems to me that Robson was "Rob" again.

"Robbery" is one of the most overused terms in boxing. A few weeks ago Ngannou was "robbed" because he did more damage to Tyson Fury. Tonight Conceicao was "robbed" even though he was beat up quite badly. There is no consistency or logic to these claims. People simply tend to side with the underdog when they exceed expectations. It was a close and competitive fight but, with the knockdowns, Conceicao would have needed to win 8 of 12 rounds to get the decision and that doesn't seem like an accurate representation of the fight in my opinion.

[btc_angela]

And as everyone has expected, Stevenson has been dominating the fight, and I only gave Delos Santos just one round though. Or order for Edwin to win, he has to score a knockout but I doubt that he can do that against Shakur.

But I'm expecting that someone will comment that this is a snooze fight, or boring.

That was the worst main event I've seen all year. Shakur showed that he can avoid punches but he refused to do anything meaningful offensively. Stevenson can't claim that he is the most ducked fighter when he does nothing worth considering him an appealing opponent. If you really are better than Haney and Tank then there is no excuse for fighting scared against much inferior competition.

So much for Shakur trying to knockout Edwin in this fight. I do agree, it was one of the worst main event for this year. There was no action on the part of Shakur and he seems to be just going thru the motions.

It's time for those who duck him to fight Stevenson as he doesn't have power at 135 lbs. Just look at the weigh-in, he was way below the limit of 135 lbs. And it just shows that he is still in between 2 division. Frank Martin should step up now, and sacrifice a bit in terms of the money and if he thinks that he can beat Shakur base on this performance against Delos Santos.

[robelneo]

It's time for those who duck him to fight Stevenson as he doesn't have power at 135 lbs. Just look at the weigh-in, he was way below the limit of 135 lbs. And it just shows that he is still in between 2 division. Frank Martin should step up now, and sacrifice a bit in terms of the money and if he thinks that he can beat Shakur base on this performance against Delos Santos.

We are short of expectation on these two guys the average punchers on these two guys are way below their normal average, and the saying that style makes a fight is very much true in this fight, both fighters are counterpunchers and both fighters are just waiting for the other guy to initiate an attack.
In Shakur's interview there's a lot of boos and Shakur is trying to defend his performance, so yeah Shakur is not a dreaded fighter in the Lightweight division based on this fight he is just an average fighter and he is in trouble against Haney so I think Haney is now motivated to get this fight going on so he can steal the belt.
There's more excitement in the Navarette - Conceiao fight than this Shakur - DeLos Santos fight.

[coin-investor]

So much for Shakur trying to knockout Edwin in this fight. I do agree, it was one of the worst main event for this year. There was no action on the part of Shakur and he seems to be just going thru the motions.

I think it is more about not getting hit because De Los Santos has a good knockout percentage, Shakur is exposed here at the lightweight level he is fast he's defense is good but lacks the power to deliver, Gervonta and Haney will just smoke him, I'm sure Haney is mocking him and laughing at his performance if ever they make a deal to fight I have Shakur the underdog on this fight.
De Los Santos may have a good record but he is not considered a top-level fighter at the level of Haney and Gervonta Davis.

[bisdak40]

So much for Shakur trying to knockout Edwin in this fight. I do agree, it was one of the worst main event for this year. There was no action on the part of Shakur and he seems to be just going thru the motions.

I think it is more about not getting hit because De Los Santos has a good knockout percentage, Shakur is exposed here at the lightweight level he is fast he's defense is good but lacks the power to deliver, Gervonta and Haney will just smoke him, I'm sure Haney is mocking him and laughing at his performance if ever they make a deal to fight I have Shakur the underdog on this fight.
De Los Santos may have a good record but he is not considered a top-level fighter at the level of Haney and Gervonta Davis.

But Haney and Davis are out of the radar as the next opponent of Shakur as far as Uncle Bob Arum is concerned. He wants to test his ward against Navarrete, just read that one on his interview but if that fight won't happen then there is Loma waiting in the wings to fight for the championship belt as a rematch with Haney won't happen.

All I could say is that "styles make a fight". If two counter-punchers meet in the ring, we should expect a snore feast and yes they delivered what was expected of them at least for me.

[Japinat]

So much for Shakur trying to knockout Edwin in this fight. I do agree, it was one of the worst main event for this year. There was no action on the part of Shakur and he seems to be just going thru the motions.

I think it is more about not getting hit because De Los Santos has a good knockout percentage, Shakur is exposed here at the lightweight level he is fast he's defense is good but lacks the power to deliver, Gervonta and Haney will just smoke him, I'm sure Haney is mocking him and laughing at his performance if ever they make a deal to fight I have Shakur the underdog on this fight.
De Los Santos may have a good record but he is not considered a top-level fighter at the level of Haney and Gervonta Davis.

But Haney and Davis are out of the radar as the next opponent of Shakur as far as Uncle Bob Arum is concerned. He wants to test his ward against Navarrete, just read that one on his interview but if that fight won't happen then there is Loma waiting in the wings to fight for the championship belt as a rematch with Haney won't happen.

Bob is playing it smart; being a veteran in the sport, he's still raking in a lot of money. As a promoter, he's not going to set up a fight for Shakur against a tough opponent who's also a champion. I wonder what would happen to Shakur if he fought Davis. The latter is a genuine KO artist and could keep up with Shakur's pace, so he should avoid that matchup at all costs.

All I could say is that "styles make a fight". If two counter-punchers meet in the ring, we should expect a snore feast and yes they delivered what was expected of them at least for me.

It might look good on paper since both are undefeated, but it's almost certain it won't be an entertaining fight, so it's unlikely to happen, and fans probably won't buy tickets. Let's backtrack a bit, have we ever seen Mayweather fight a boxer with a similar style? Nope, not really, right?

[inthelongrun]

Hopefully, nobody bet on that juicy Shakira Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Both Devin Haney, George Kambosos, Ryan Garcia, and Tank Davis' fanbase are quick to ridicule Shakur's performance. It was a boring fight but still a level above Tank and Ryan who need to work their way to get their own title shots. And Haney bashing Shakur as if he is not a boring fighter as well.

I believe both are actually capable of landing more. De Los Santos showed his speed and combinations early. But he decided to lose a decision rather than have a real chance of a victory but risked getting tired and then getting stopped in the late rounds. On Shakur's side, he felt early on that De Los Santos indeed had enough speed and combinations to land. Knowing the guy has 14 KOs of his 16 victories, Shakur preferred not to risk letting his hands go and became contented with his jabs and straights as long as he was landing only a little better than De Los Santos.

Navarette deserved as the main event of the fight. Fans were chanting his name. He was lucky enough to escape a majority draw.

[Hypnosis00]

Hopefully, nobody bet on that juicy Shakira Tweeterson by KO/TKO.

I know there are people here who bet on the KO win since the odds was around x3.30 which was very tempting, but it turns out it was a trap since the real value was the Shakur to win via decision and the trend still continues.

As per boxrec (https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/790719)... most of his wins are via UD, so you can tell he really is a dominant boxer, one can't beat him if he can't knock him down, but what can they do, he's very slick and does not engage carelessly.

[aioc]

Navarette deserved as the main event of the fight. Fans were chanting his name. He was lucky enough to escape a majority draw.

Yes the Navarette - Conceicao should be the main event they are the ones that gave more excitement on the night, I thought heading to the Shakur - Delos Santos fight the main event would be more exciting than the supporting events, I was disappointed both boxers failed to give the numbers that the boxing fans who watch the main events, the number of punches thrown are limited both are waiting to who's gonna go first, it should be Delos Santos because he is the challenger, but Shakur should know that many fight fans expect that he show something.
If the challenger cannot show up then the champion should take the initiative but both fighters failed to show up they just went to the flow and were afraid to being knocked out.

[cabron]

Hopefully, nobody bet on that juicy Shakira Tweeterson by KO/TKO. Both Devin Haney, George Kambosos, Ryan Garcia, and Tank Davis' fanbase are quick to ridicule Shakur's performance. It was a boring fight but still a level above Tank and Ryan who need to work their way to get their own title shots. And Haney bashing Shakur as if he is not a boring fighter as well.

I believe both are actually capable of landing more. De Los Santos showed his speed and combinations early. But he decided to lose a decision rather than have a real chance of a victory but risked getting tired and then getting stopped in the late rounds. On Shakur's side, he felt early on that De Los Santos indeed had enough speed and combinations to land. Knowing the guy has 14 KOs of his 16 victories, Shakur preferred not to risk letting his hands go and became contented with his jabs and straights as long as he was landing only a little better than De Los Santos.

Navarette deserved as the main event of the fight. Fans were chanting his name. He was lucky enough to escape a majority draw.

We are used to watching KOs in UFC and boxing, we get bored when no one falls to the ground. Conceicao fell but he survived throughout the next rounds fighting to the last. Not so very satisfying but I could also consider it the fight of the night than Shakur vs Santos. Of all, this is the fight people expect something that would make them stand up from their seats. Too bad for the people on the ringside, tickets no return policy.

There's another event next month though. Bivol and Wilder will be in Saudi this Dec 23. Gotta love the Saudis for pouring so much money on this.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Navarette deserved as the main event of the fight. Fans were chanting his name. He was lucky enough to escape a majority draw.

Yeah, Navarette vs Conceicao should be the main event, it was a good fight, very close and not sure if the judges make the right score here. But nevertheless Navarette got lucky and escape with the win. I read reports that Stevenson is not trying to get excuses or what in his performance, but he touch base on subject that he is not feeling well but he didn't elaborate on it. I didn't bet on it, just skipped as the majority knows that Stevenson is going to win but we didn't expect that this fight is going to be boring with no action. Also Shakur said that it was just a bad night for him, again he is not saying it directly as an excuse and even cite Floyd Mayweather's fight against Carlos Baldomir (indicating that it was also boring). Not sure though if he can really compare Floyd's performance against his performance tonight. And so much for the hype of boxers avoiding Shakur at this point, he just exposed himself. 

[Baofeng]

I'm going to lock the thread for now.

It was a below par performance by Shakur, as others have said, it was one of the worst main card we have seen this year. Shakur just want to get the W here without risking and try to knockout De Los Santos.

Him and Navarette should go next, that is Bob Arum's plan. Navarette got the W as well but it was very close and maybe he had a hard time making the weight already so it's time for him to go to 135 lbs and challenge Shakur for the belt.