Russia and Western sanctions UK and others Also brexit

[Squaremile777]

Russia knows that he can't win with fight with nato USA and putin even don't want that because this doesnt show nothing to the world.
Putin Will keep the ukraine war on that west will embargo and will devastate their own economy and without russia involvement at all.
Off course some of the Western. Leaders want to destroy all russia or kill Putin but they have play by the rules.

It's easier to win by the rules If you always been honest and playing by the rules but If you been cheating you always win only If you cheat and you don't know how to play by the rules.
Off course all countries are different but for example UK economy is in very bad shape UK never been known to be playing by the rules and now the results for UK are here.

If you play by the rules you are respected and trusted but If you cheat and not play by the rules once you are exposed other players will give you exit from the game for example UK brexit.

You can be surprised but UK economy not going to be rebound it will fall deeper and deeper and no mercy from others because no trust.
The libor scandal was good example of UK If you give them power what they did with this power they used for.
The economic problems have Made crime rates high in UK allready and goverment can't control anymore they can say that they have everythung Under control but it's not the economic situation is so bad and leaders try to just to calm down people so they will panic but they know they don't have any plan they know they can't save people anymore.
Off course innovation is key but old money power don't know about innovation and there is still a lot old money kind of people in power they can Do only something when money printers are brrrr mode and rates are low but If things are changing and world understoods they cant solve anything for the long term just by printing money.

Most of this economic mess was possible to avoid If some of the players would played by the rules....

Btw winter is coming and people need Heating in UK and Europe and it's not cheap.

[Argoo]

If Great Britain does not play by the rules, then how do Russia and its bloody leader Putin play? Is he playing by the rules, unleashing the biggest and bloodiest war since World War II with the goal of capturing a neighboring state, where about forty thousand shells are now fired every day?

All states are now experiencing difficult economic times. Great Britain will survive this period too. The question is, will Russia survive them or will it disintegrate into a number of small republics?

[hugeblack]

The Russian-Ukrainian war has received wide coverage in the forum and its effects are talked about daily in newspapers and magazines. Therefore, I do not think that you are presenting realistic data despite the abundance and availability of this data.
The only evidence is that armed conflicts will reduce the concept of globalization and make the world a small village of concepts where every individual in society tries to appear better at the expense of others.

It is true that the global economy is affected, but it is still resilient, and I hope that nothing will happen to it because countries will resort to zero-sum options.

[Spaceman1000$]

Russia knows that he can't win with fight with nato USA and putin even don't want that because this doesnt show nothing to the world.
Putin Will keep the ukraine war on that west will embargo and will devastate their own economy and without russia involvement at all.
Off course some of the Western. Leaders want to destroy all russia or kill Putin but they have play by the rules.

It's easier to win by the rules If you always been honest and playing by the rules but If you been cheating you always win only If you cheat and you don't know how to play by the rules.
Off course all countries are different but for example UK economy is in very bad shape UK never been known to be playing by the rules and now the results for UK are here.

If you play by the rules you are respected and trusted but If you cheat and not play by the rules once you are exposed other players will give you exit from the game for example UK brexit.

You can be surprised but UK economy not going to be rebound it will fall deeper and deeper and no mercy from others because no trust.
The libor scandal was good example of UK If you give them power what they did with this power they used for.
The economic problems have Made crime rates high in UK allready and goverment can't control anymore they can say that they have everythung Under control but it's not the economic situation is so bad and leaders try to just to calm down people so they will panic but they know they don't have any plan they know they can't save people anymore.
Off course innovation is key but old money power don't know about innovation and there is still a lot old money kind of people in power they can Do only something when money printers are brrrr mode and rates are low but If things are changing and world understoods they cant solve anything for the long term just by printing money.

Most of this economic mess was possible to avoid If some of the players would played by the rules....

Btw winter is coming and people need Heating in UK and Europe and it's not cheap.

UK is not the only country going through  economic hard times, virtually a good number of countries are facing hard times this period of time.
The UK can easily make trades with other commonwealth nations of the world for whatever supply they are in need, ranging from gas, petroleum, gold and raw materials they might need.
So whatever pain they are going through now, is temporary because they will go out of it.
Most of us never wanted the crisis rocking Russian and Ukrainian to get  to this point, that's why I was asking more countries to help de-escalate the war when the war was getting started because nobody benefits from war, it's all destruction.

[el kaka22]

It's quite funny to see Russian muppets to end up promoting how Russia is doing what they should and how the "west" is doing something dirty and how west will fall because of it. Meanwhile UK economy is getting stronger, people at UK live much better, and everything is already handled via everything else.

If you think that UK will get worse and Russia will be fine, just let them make the mistakes they are making, why try to make them change their opinion, if sanctions are so bad for UK, and not a problem for Russia, let the UK make their own mistakes and freeze. They don2t, and they keep shilling Russia, because they know that Russia is getting incredibly worse, and citizens are having trouble and many are feeling the nation and UK is doing fine.

[Argoo]

Most of us never wanted the crisis rocking Russian and Ukrainian to get  to this point, that's why I was asking more countries to help de-escalate the war when the war was getting started because nobody benefits from war, it's all destruction.

Ukraine is now defending itself from a completely insolent and bloodthirsty aggressor named Russia, and this is not a crisis at all, and not a natural disaster. This is one of the largest military forces in Europe and has specific culprits in the person of Putin, his entourage and the Russian people, who are now in the hundreds of thousands with weapons in their hands climbing into the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians and destroy everything in their path.

Negotiations and requests cannot stop Russia now; this beast understands only force, and above all the force of weapons. This war can only be stopped by assistance to Ukraine from other states, otherwise the flames of war will spread further to the Baltic countries and throughout Europe.

[franky1]

things you got to learn

decade ago Nato/EU did not want ukraine to join their memberships due to the eastern edge of ukraine being so close to russia.. yes thats right nato/EU wanted ukraine to drop the eastern edge to then gain membership.. so EU/Nato and russia all want ukraine to lose the eastern side of ukraine and call it a independant state/ no-mans land separating ukraine from russia..

as for the UK brexit.. general citizens did not petition to leave the EU. it was a EU/UK gov internal decision first of all as far back as the millenium. which the UK government then made into a referendum.. to then pretend it was a citizen decision.. the vote was close but the agenda always was for a separation
the UK may seem to disagree on trade terms with the EU in regards to customs regulations.. but this again is a long path ploy to get the UK into a position as middleman in international trade
the UK wants "freeports" which are tax exempt ports where international trade can dock in the UK, pay no import tax. convert their produce into goods and then ship it onto the EU at a special discount tariff

yep the australian wine business want to bring vats of wine to the UK in waterballoons of thousands of gallons. and then bottle it in the UK to then sell to the EU.. america want to import meat into the UK and then to europe

once you learn all the back stage movements. you soon learn the story of the play being staged

heck even the climate agenda is a simple bait and switch.. everyone knows there is less than 100 years of fossil fuel in the ground left.. so conversion to renewable is always the path in the next 50 years..
yep i said it. if we continue with fossil fuel without crisis talks. the fossil fuels would run out anyway and the environment would clean itself in 100 years or less

but power companies dont want to use customers payments to fund the transition. so they came up with climate crisis to guilt people into wanting taxes and increased energy prices to fund it. after all would we agree to tax/energy price rises if it was just deemed 'business as usual' transition, nope. they know we need to feel our lives are at risk to fund their business continuance under a new energy source

[JunaidAzizi]

Btw winter is coming and people need Heating in UK and Europe and it's not cheap.

If you know the world going to multipolarity means that there are more superpowers arising and all of them want the control of worlds. For example China, Russia, Japan, USA, and India also. After the end of the Cold in the early ''90s and the disintegration of the USSR, a treaty was signed between the White House and Moscow in which Russia wanted the US will not to expand towards the Russian boundaries now you can see that through NATO they are expanding towards Russia and the aggression of Russia towards Ukraine is the chain of this treaty that US voilate the agianst the treaty.

In the case of Great Britain, they are nowadays going through an economic crisis not only in Britain but the whole of Europe because they are running on the Gas and petroleum of Russia as they did not support Russia in the Ukraine invasion Russia closed the pipeline. But there are no worries whether today or after a day the UK will find any alternative and they have but they are so far from them. The other European countries are fine a little because they have found an alternative but the UK is fully dependent on Russia. There is a way the UK will improve its diplomatic relations with Spain and Morocco be they will provide them the gas and petroleums.

[BIT-BENDER]

If you know the world going to multipolarity means that there are more

This right here is the course of many issues we have globally, with many nations having a sustainable economy they believe it's time they get to drag for the superpower role, and we have the previous superpowers not willing to see any other countries come to challenge them.

In recent times Asia (that includes the middle east) has been the continent developing fast economically and industrially and we have seen many super powers especially the US and countries in Europe trying to be in allegiance with them.

The fact is that the world may never get complete peace because many of the super powers has created enemity amongst themselves to last a life time, but if mutual respect exit and the wisdom that any confrontation can lead to carnage and sorrows then I believe we can coexist in this world.

[Argoo]

After the end of the Cold in the early ''90s and the disintegration of the USSR, a treaty was signed between the White House and Moscow in which Russia wanted the US will not to expand towards the Russian boundaries now you can see that through NATO they are expanding towards Russia and the aggression of Russia towards Ukraine is the chain of this treaty that US voilate the agianst the treaty.

No agreements were ever signed between the USSR/Russia and NATO, including the United States, on the non-expansion of NATO in Eastern Europe. Some Russian officials, including President Putin, state that such an agreement, reached in one form or another between the USSR/Russia and the USA in the late 1980s and early 1990s, was oral. However, leaders of the NATO alliance believe that no such promises were made and that such a decision can only be made in writing. The NATO Alliance has always officially adhered to the principle of “open doors” to new NATO members.

The Soviet Union did not receive written guarantees about the non-expansion of NATO in Eastern Europe, just as the post-Soviet Russian Federation did not receive them. Thus, we can only talk about the presence or absence of an informal agreement.

The demand to “roll back” the military unification within the 1997 borders, that is, before the extensions in 1999 and 2004, was put forward at the end of 2021 in Russia’s large-scale military unification in Ukraine in 2022. However, Russia's defense in Ukraine led to the opposite consequences. Sweden and Finland applied to join NATO last year, and on April 4, 2023, Finland became the 31st NATO member. With regard to Sweden, consent has not been received only from Turkey and Hungary.
After Russia's military failures and receiving a 1,300-kilometer border with Finland as a NATO member, Russia no longer puts forward any demands for NATO non-expansion.

[DrBeer]

The main problem with the current, already established situation is not war or economic problems. These are all a consequence of the main problem. And it is called this: the West often "turns a blind eye" to "convenient or favorable" bastard regimes. If in 2000 Russia had been "smeared" by the whole world for the slaughter in independent Ichkeria, there would be no PMR, Abkhazia, DNR, DMR and many other points of terror in the world. Some people of course think that Russia is such a European, civilized country, albeit with a few "oddities". Some in both Europe and the U.S. have a direct benefit from Russia. That is why they have been pretending that "nothing is happening" since 2000. The affairs of Russia will somehow be sorted out, but don't break our money-making scheme. 
I would like to hope that in 2022, the world will UNDERSTAND that Russia is a country of terror, a country of lawlessness, a country of criminals, a country with which any agreements are worthless.... Because first the USA and Britain, and then Europe suddenly realized that if Russia destroys Ukraine - further on its way will be "stable, relaxed Europe", which does not want a World War to roll through it again. A new world war.
But there are still idiotic thoughts in the heads of many world politicians - "let's negotiate". No, you can't negotiate with a cancerous tumor! Rashism is a cancerous tumor of the modern world. And we, Ukrainians, do not want to die, replacing complex treatment with attempts to "talk to the tumor".

[coupable]

Most of us never wanted the crisis rocking Russian and Ukrainian to get  to this point, that's why I was asking more countries to help de-escalate the war when the war was getting started because nobody benefits from war, it's all destruction.

Ukraine is now defending itself from a completely insolent and bloodthirsty aggressor named Russia, and this is not a crisis at all, and not a natural disaster. This is one of the largest military forces in Europe and has specific culprits in the person of Putin, his entourage and the Russian people, who are now in the hundreds of thousands with weapons in their hands climbing into the territory of Ukraine to kill Ukrainians and destroy everything in their path.

Negotiations and requests cannot stop Russia now; this beast understands only force, and above all the force of weapons. This war can only be stopped by assistance to Ukraine from other states, otherwise the flames of war will spread further to the Baltic countries and throughout Europe.

It does not seem that this war will end soon, and no one knows whose interest it will be in the end. It has begun to become clear that Russia's ambitions go far beyond the Ukrainian borders and that the undeclared goals are much more and more important than the declared goals. Unfortunately, all of Europe is paying the price of this war, not Ukraine alone. Indeed, Ukraine may be the least harmed, at least due to its economic resilience.
The comparison with Britain may not be very correct because the characteristics of Russian power are completely different from the characteristics of British power, and if both of them were going through an internal crisis, their results would be completely different and unexpected.

[pooya87]

heck even the climate agenda is a simple bait and switch.. everyone knows there is less than 100 years of fossil fuel in the ground left.. so conversion to renewable is always the path in the next 50 years..
yep i said it. if we continue with fossil fuel without crisis talks. the fossil fuels would run out anyway and the environment would clean itself in 100 years or less

lol your information is far off
We will have fossil fuels for at least 2 or 3 more centuries. In Iran alone we have more fossil fuels for the next 200 years, not to mention that vast amounts of our resources are not yet even discovered like in the Caspian sea (north) or the southern provinces because there were no reason to.
Or the biggest resources that are in Yemen which both Soviets (back in USSR time) and American intelligence have approved has more fossil fuel than the entire West Asia combined and remains largely untapped to this day which is also one of the biggest incentives for the invasion of Yemen and the failed attempt to occupy it by the US-Saudi coalition in the past 9 years.

[DrBeer]

It does not seem that this war will end soon, and no one knows whose interest it will be in the end. It has begun to become clear that Russia's ambitions go far beyond the Ukrainian borders and that the undeclared goals are much more and more important than the declared goals. Unfortunately, all of Europe is paying the price of this war, not Ukraine alone. Indeed, Ukraine may be the least harmed, at least due to its economic resilience.
The comparison with Britain may not be very correct because the characteristics of Russian power are completely different from the characteristics of British power, and if both of them were going through an internal crisis, their results would be completely different and unexpected.

I think you should listen to the rhetoric of the Russian authorities, the manual propaganda of the Kremlin, and the also under-fuhrer Putin.
First, let me explain - they have a wild toilet in their heads. They dream of regaining the “greatness of the Russian Empire” and the “greatness of the USSR,” but not by creating a powerful, progressive state, but by conquering and linking to Muscovy (as Russia is actually called) the territories of all former republics, Finland, parts of Poland and others." primordially Russian territories." just a year and a half ago, they boasted of their bravado - “yes, the West will be afraid to even utter a word against us, otherwise we will wipe out everyone on the face of the earth with a nuclear strike, and no one will stop us or respond.” Understand a simple thing, preferably by first listening to Russian propaganda, the so-called “Russian world” is a cancer of today’s world. Do you want a metastasis like the DPR/PMR/LPR/Abkhazia/... negotiate with them, come to an agreement, do business... But these metastases will soon be in your country...
If you want to live peacefully, qualitatively and humanly - help fight this brown plague of the 21st century - sanctions, pressure, isolation, help to destroy the army of terrorists!

[franky1]

heck even the climate agenda is a simple bait and switch.. everyone knows there is less than 100 years of fossil fuel in the ground left.. so conversion to renewable is always the path in the next 50 years..
yep i said it. if we continue with fossil fuel without crisis talks. the fossil fuels would run out anyway and the environment would clean itself in 100 years or less

lol your information is far off
We will have fossil fuels for at least 2 or 3 more centuries.

https://www.worldometers.info/oil/

Oil Reserves   1,650,585,140,000 barrels
Oil Consumption 35,442,913,090 barrels per year 97,103,871 barrels per day
Reserves/Consumption 47    (years left)

enjoy

[pooya87]

https://www.worldometers.info/oil/

Go to Wikileaks and just search Yemen and then enjoy
The estimated oil reserves in al-Jawf alone is at least 500 billion barrel which is roughly 30% of the total global oil reserves if we believe your link.

[Argoo]

Russia knows that he can't win with fight with nato USA and putin even don't want that because this doesnt show nothing to the world.
Putin Will keep the ukraine war on that west will embargo and will devastate their own economy and without russia involvement at all.
Off course some of the Western. Leaders want to destroy all russia or kill Putin but they have play by the rules.

Yesterday, October 10, the Russian Army launched a grandiose but disastrous offensive against the Ukrainian Armed Forces in eastern Ukraine near the village of Avdeevka. The Russian occupiers attempted to attack the Ukrainian Armed Forces with several thousand soldiers, supported by a large number of tanks and armored vehicles, as well as artillery and aviation. Columns of the Russian Armed Forces began moving from several settlements at once - Krasnogorovka, Novoselovka Vtoroy, Vodyanoy, Peskov and Vesely.
But the Ukrainian Armed Forces gave them a “bag of fire.” As a result, most of the attacking occupiers fell into Ukrainian soil forever, losing 23 tanks, 91 armored vehicles and aircraft.

And in the south of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are slowly and confidently tearing through the multi-layered defensive positions of the invaders, moving towards the city of Tokmak, which is a strategically important railway junction and through which the entire group of invaders is supplied in the south. The liberation of this city, which is approximately 12-16 kilometers away, will destroy the entire southern front of the Russians. Since the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already brought their artillery closer to this city, yesterday its residents could see how a train carrying ammunition that was moving near Tokamak was attacked. The Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to hit it while it was moving, and the railway cars exploded and burned while still moving.

[Sayeds56]

If Great Britain does not play by the rules, then how do Russia and its bloody leader Putin play? Is he playing by the rules, unleashing the biggest and bloodiest war since World War II with the goal of capturing a neighboring state, where about forty thousand shells are now fired every day?

All states are now experiencing difficult economic times. Great Britain will survive this period too. The question is, will Russia survive them or will it disintegrate into a number of small republics?

It is important to bear in mind that wars are typically fought to safeguard economic interests, such as acquiring land and other valuable resources, rather than being solely driven by adherence to rules and principles, so if United Kingdom or Russia is not following the rules it should not be a shocking.

As a result of this ongoing war all countries are facing challenges including United Kingdom, is dealing with challenges. As time goes on, these challenges will be addressed. The key question is whether Russia can also endure these political and economic difficulties.

[serveria.com]

Russia knows that he can't win with fight with nato USA and putin even don't want that because this doesnt show nothing to the world.
Putin Will keep the ukraine war on that west will embargo and will devastate their own economy and without russia involvement at all.
Off course some of the Western. Leaders want to destroy all russia or kill Putin but they have play by the rules.

Yesterday, October 10, the Russian Army launched a grandiose but disastrous offensive against the Ukrainian Armed Forces in eastern Ukraine near the village of Avdeevka. The Russian occupiers attempted to attack the Ukrainian Armed Forces with several thousand soldiers, supported by a large number of tanks and armored vehicles, as well as artillery and aviation. Columns of the Russian Armed Forces began moving from several settlements at once - Krasnogorovka, Novoselovka Vtoroy, Vodyanoy, Peskov and Vesely.
But the Ukrainian Armed Forces gave them a “bag of fire.” As a result, most of the attacking occupiers fell into Ukrainian soil forever, losing 23 tanks, 91 armored vehicles and aircraft.

And in the south of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are slowly and confidently tearing through the multi-layered defensive positions of the invaders, moving towards the city of Tokmak, which is a strategically important railway junction and through which the entire group of invaders is supplied in the south. The liberation of this city, which is approximately 12-16 kilometers away, will destroy the entire southern front of the Russians. Since the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already brought their artillery closer to this city, yesterday its residents could see how a train carrying ammunition that was moving near Tokamak was attacked. The Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to hit it while it was moving, and the railway cars exploded and burned while still moving.

Oh, you're still here? When joining the glorious AFU on the Eastern front? Your Motherland needs you!   

I guess we don't deserve to know the sources of this info? If you can't provide the source, just write there that it appeared in your dream... 

Anyway, regarding the BS you're posting here: AFU were close to Tokmak (10-15km) already back in August! So it means there's no moving forward. Russian defence lines are located near the village of Rabotyne, that's where the AFU is now, so it's not even confirmed they pierced the first line of defence, just barely reached it. Which means the whole counter-offensive is a failure, leading to catastrophic loss of life. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers were destroyed in this useless bloodbath. Oh, and btw, artillery range is much further than 12-16km so AFU can actuallly reach Tokmak from the area of Robotyne of even further away. 

[DrBeer]

Anyway, regarding the BS you're posting here: AFU were close to Tokmak (10-15km) already back in August! So it means there's no moving forward. Russian defence lines are located near the village of Rabotyne, that's where the AFU is now, so it's not even confirmed they pierced the first line of defence, just barely reached it. Which means the whole counter-offensive is a failure, leading to catastrophic loss of life. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers were destroyed in this useless bloodbath. Oh, and btw, artillery range is much further than 12-16km so AFU can actuallly reach Tokmak from the area of Robotyne of even further away. 

Instead of a thousand words of propaganda, you can look at a real map of military operations, the link is below, the chronology is easy to observe.

Of course, I understand - Russia is accustomed to “meat assaults” hiding behind the concept “women are still giving birth,” because in Russia there is no such value as human life - they will throw for slaughter as much as the crazy Kremlin dwarf says. In Ukraine, people are one of the highest values. Yes, our soldiers also die, but they defend their country from terrorists, and they are not forced to break through, simply because they need to create a “positive picture.” There is a slow, systematic destruction of terrorists virtually along the entire front. Yes, it’s difficult, but the goals are achieved.

Another indicator is that there is no regular mass mobilization in Ukraine. Unlike the country with the “second army of the world”, where its under-fuhrer has already signed a new order on a new open mobilization, and is also collecting criminals from all prisons for the Wagner PMC, deceiving himself with the hope of salvation

And some news from a terrorist country:
- “We are in slavery here.” At one of Gazprom's largest fields, wage delays and worker riots began
- The authorities classified Putin’s decree on the mandatory sale of foreign currency earnings and the list of exporters
- The Russian Federation’s reserves decreased over the week due to revaluation by $5.6 billion to $562.8 billion
- Gazprom reported a record-breaking collapse in gas production

https://deepstatemap.live/#12/47.4642/35.8254