Is the first Merit the hardest Merit to get?

[BabyBandit]

I been here a month now and finally got my first Merits

(I really like the point with them, it shows that you have been here long and have contribute with good posts! Thank you guys with a lot of merit I have for sure read a lot of your helpful post!)
What Merits is the hardest Merit to get? Is it the first one's or maybe the later ones? I understand this is a bit confusing, but maybe to a new account people are aware to not giving out Merits to easy just because so for example someone that had bad intention here getting ranked up to fast.
And some people are lucky that are a part of a Local Board and I see that them get a lot of much more Merits then the rest of us! Nothing wrong with that at all, but just noticed it! But.....
Can't that be a bad thing? Because for those people, it would be easier to make more accounts and then maybe get in more of this "sign campaign?" Or maybe that's it's not against any rules. What do I know  

Just a interesting question I started to think about.... I think it can be logical to have it harder to get Merit in the beginning before the forum learn to know you.
I don't know... What do you guys think? and What do you guys think it should be?
But should it no also be like... If you are a really good guy that can handle posting good, you are good in words, can't then people get like to high standards for that person? So it can be hard for him also to get Merit.

I am pretty bad in words, and explain my self, often it don't come out as i want it, but very rarely it does. So I would guess getting Merits for me will be very hard since I am not in a local board!  
But hey, that don't bother me, I am in no rush at all to get Merits! I just enjoy to learn things about crypto on this forum that I basically do daily.

I don't think the Merit system is wrong or bad in anyway I really like it. But say that some people don't take advance of it, is wrong. But hey nothing can be perfect!
You need to make some effort to be a part of the forum and I really like that concept, but it just that it's way easier for some people to rank up faster then other, and all of these people that rank up fast.. Maybe they don't can contribute to the forum as they should with comparing to the their rank.  

Maybe a possibility is that... One person create a lot of accounts and beg for Merits and then join a lot of Signature Campaign, but that's maybe it's not wrong and are allowed.

Excuse me for not being on point on everything and know how everything works, it was just some thoughts  I had.  


Thanks in advance for answers! & I hope I i didn't step on anyone toes. - BabyBandit

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[nelson4lov]

The first set of merits are definitely the hardest in my opinion because this is the time you have a lot of figuring out to do.  You need to constantly revise your posts to learn what contents are merit worthy and how to constantly improve post quality so you can churn out quality content consistently.

Momentum gets picked up especially when you're close to clocking a new rank.

[Adbitco]

No merits is hard to earn it only depends on how your first post likes, and whenever other members looks at your efforts or consistency then earning merits could be as easy as what one could ever thought of. It's difficult to you because you always wished to earn merits but that isn't the logic there, the main thing is how to settle your mind and feel free in every discussion you are engaging yourself the more real you become the earlier you earns more merits. So that is why people often says first time merits is very hard to earn.

[nakamura12]

I don't think getting first merit is hard instead I would say that it wi take some time to earn your first merit because you must improve your posting ability in order to create good or high quality posts that will surely attract merits especially if the topic you posted in the thread is helpful not just for newbies but to everyone as well such as news, tips and cautions (hacked exchange, sim swap attack and more). Well, some newbies got their first merit because the sender intentionally gave to the newbie as a motivation to create good posts.

[Sexylizzy2813]

No merits is hard to earn it only depends on how your first post likes, and whenever other members looks at your efforts or consistency then earning merits could be as easy as what one could ever thought of. It's difficult to you because you always wished to earn merits but that isn't the logic there, the main thing is how to settle your mind and feel free in every discussion you are engaging yourself the more real you become the earlier you earns more merits. So that is why people often says first time merits is very hard to earn.

If you have no guide on this Forum believe me you won't have any idea of what to do to even get close to getting a merit, that's how to get your post in line.
When I first joined the Forum I made my first mistake by posting without dropping a link, but I was corrected by lovesmayfamilis and she scouted (thanks to her) some of my post and boom I got one in almost a month.
So to me the first merit is the hardest to get if you're running off the line...

[Cantsay]

Shouldn’t this post be in the reputation board?[/hr]

I believe I earned my first merit from the first thread/ post I made in this forum, I didn’t expect it tho and I had no idea what it was. After my fist thread I took some time to explore the forum and check how things were done here, read the rules got exposed to some external tools that made the forum more simpler for me.

Sometimes you’d just make a post and all of a sudden you’ll receive merit notification without you even expecting it, while sometimes you’ll make research hoping you’ll get some merits all of a sudden you’ll receive notification that you post has been removed or you’ll come back to find your post in the archival board. As you continue to grow in the forum merits becomes more easier to get that’s if you keep up what you were doing initially without changing.

[Adbitco]

No merits is hard to earn it only depends on how your first post likes, and whenever other members looks at your efforts or consistency then earning merits could be as easy as what one could ever thought of. It's difficult to you because you always wished to earn merits but that isn't the logic there, the main thing is how to settle your mind and feel free in every discussion you are engaging yourself the more real you become the earlier you earns more merits. So that is why people often says first time merits is very hard to earn.

If you have no guide on this Forum believe me you won't have any idea of what to do to even get close to getting a merit, that's how to get your post in line.
When I first joined the Forum I made my first mistake by posting without dropping a link, but I was corrected by lovesmayfamilis and she scouted (thanks to her) some of my post and boom I got one in almost a month.
So to me the first merit is the hardest to get if you're running off the line...

You are correct just as I have said earlier newbies often post with desperate manner to earn merits when they removed that mentality and know the right things to do or to post earning merits becomes so easily and that must be if the older members has seen your efforts and understand that you have come to stay then you will earn merits. let me just say we the older members here knows those that are serious and those are only eager to earn merits quickly and zoom off to the next rank, yes there is no crime earning merits but it should be that such person knows what he is doing and not just to come spam and expectingly to earn merits, believe me or not no one will want to waste their merits in such people including you you can't merits such profile if you were in others shoes.

[albert0bsd]

To be honest i don't think that the first merit is difccult to get, but that depends of each person and the quallity of the topics that the publish or then thing that they share.

My get my first merit when i publish a message sharing my open source project, and that was my message number 6, previous 5 messages before it don't get any merit

However, I must emphasize that achieving merit constanly depends on the relevance and value of the topics you engage with or the content you share. It's essential to focus on contributing meaningfully to the forum, and over time, these merits will naturally come your way.

[Churchillvv]

Getting first merit could be hard or easy depending on your position, most of the people saying it's not hard is because y'all hard someone who introduced you to this forum and guided you on the does and don't or have been here early enough to learn and had gathered enough experience. but for a total beginners  without much guide is not just hard but very hard.

On like me how i got my first merit was unknown to me, I had thought on making quality post but isn't working I felt I was been pushed but the day I just decided to speak from my heart without any form guidelines on how to position my speech for merit that day I got merited. I felt like is a magic the joy was high...
So getting merit will only be simple for you after reading all this thoughts and replies here if only you will listen to the advice.

[PX-Z]

For spammers, yes. But for those who learn how to make quality posts on discussion boards, no. Although, there are times it's hard but not all the times it depends on where you posts but usually it will get merits for what it deserves.

[tbct_mt2]

The first merit is hardest for some but if talking about a longer journey, it's not hardest. It can take you one or two months to get your first merit but the hardest challenge for you to rank up with merit system is the first 100 merit.

You will see earning first 100 merit that is requirement for Full member rank is the hardest. After Full member rank, first 100 merit, you will feel ranking up is more easy. And earning from 101 merit to 250 merit will be easier. You even can earn 150 merits more quickly than first 100 merit.

Because after first 100 merit and time for it like 3 months or 6 months, you have enough knowledge about forum, merit system, Bitcoin and surely you are more helpful in forum. Earning merit becomes easier because you already are more knowledgeable and more helpful.

[Mpamaegbu]

Just a interesting question I started to think about.... I think it can be logical to have it harder to get Merit in the beginning before the forum learn to know you.

Actually, the first is about the easiest to get now if one isn't constantly checking time. In 2018 when the merit system was introduced we could talk about difficulty getting the first merit for newbies (and most users too) but it's not that way now with merit sources and others putting up threads to help people rank up. I acknowledge that it might take genuine newbies time to find these threads and to post in them as the usual navigation problem most of us had coming here too. However, if they do find them, just a single merit doesn't take much to give out if they've enough activities for it. Again, I've come to realize that most people find it enticing giving merit to those are at the verge of ranking up. Perhaps, it gives them satisfaction knowing they helped push someone to their next rank. So, in that case most newbies easily rank up if they aren't having just bounty reports. This is often the problem with newbies who register here and head straight to bounty hunting.

[Sexylizzy2813]

No merits is hard to earn it only depends on how your first post likes, and whenever other members looks at your efforts or consistency then earning merits could be as easy as what one could ever thought of. It's difficult to you because you always wished to earn merits but that isn't the logic there, the main thing is how to settle your mind and feel free in every discussion you are engaging yourself the more real you become the earlier you earns more merits. So that is why people often says first time merits is very hard to earn.

If you have no guide on this Forum believe me you won't have any idea of what to do to even get close to getting a merit, that's how to get your post in line.
When I first joined the Forum I made my first mistake by posting without dropping a link, but I was corrected by lovesmayfamilis and she scouted (thanks to her) some of my post and boom I got one in almost a month.
So to me the first merit is the hardest to get if you're running off the line...

You are correct just as I have said earlier newbies often post with desperate manner to earn merits when they removed that mentality and know the right things to do or to post earning merits becomes so easily and that must be if the older members has seen your efforts and understand that you have come to stay then you will earn merits. let me just say we the older members here knows those that are serious and those are only eager to earn merits quickly and zoom off to the next rank, yes there is no crime earning merits but it should be that such person knows what he is doing and not just to come spam and expectingly to earn merits, believe me or not no one will want to waste their merits in such people including you you can't merits such profile if you were in others shoes.

That's true because after I got that correction I started watching out for things that need to be done so that I won't fail any rules, and as for being eager to earn merit desperation causes it and it makes one not to concentrate on why he or she is on the Forum.
Before giving out merit I believe that post or that user must have sent a message that's informative, like you said no one would waste his or her merit on thrash post. Have learnt a lot and I believe I still have more things to learn from older members like yourself.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't think there's a correct answer to OP's question.

I also think this might be a merit-begging thread disguised as a discussion of the merit system created by a newbie who knows exactly how important merits are and what the earnings potential is by virtue of being a higher-ranked member of the forum.

The fact is, it doesn't matter if it's your first or 6000th merit that you've earned; if you're a poster who's good enough to stand out from all of the crap posts that have infested most sections of bitcointalk, you're going to earn merits.  If you're just average you might get lucky and write something a merit source or some other member who's got sMerits to give out finds interesting.  In that case I'd still say any merits you earn are going to be equally as hard to come by. 

Come to think of it, I've seen so many 1-merit Jr. Members around that the first merit a newbie earns might just be the easiest, especially since there's a thread dedicated to the members who're most generous to newbies.  I'm usually very low down on that one, because I don't hand out merits to compete in that thread or for charity.  So who the fuck knows?

[libert19]

My view rarely goes to the username, much less to the merit counter, I just look at the comment if looks useful to me, I merit it, now it's another thing that I deplete my sMerit as soon as I receive it 

[BenCodie]

No merit is any easier than another to attain.

If you make a high quality post that is informative, positive for the community and worthy of being a merit, then you will get a merit. If you do not make a post that is worthy of a merit, you won't get one.

I believe that this applies to any member of any rank. At least, it should. I am sure some people favor others more than others because of relationships, but, that doesn't have much to do with what you are asking.

[BabyBandit]

No merits is hard to earn it only depends on how your first post likes, and whenever other members looks at your efforts or consistency then earning merits could be as easy as what one could ever thought of. It's difficult to you because you always wished to earn merits but that isn't the logic there, the main thing is how to settle your mind and feel free in every discussion you are engaging yourself the more real you become the earlier you earns more merits. So that is why people often says first time merits is very hard to earn.

If you have no guide on this Forum believe me you won't have any idea of what to do to even get close to getting a merit, that's how to get your post in line.
When I first joined the Forum I made my first mistake by posting without dropping a link, but I was corrected by lovesmayfamilis and she scouted (thanks to her) some of my post and boom I got one in almost a month.
So to me the first merit is the hardest to get if you're running off the line...

That's a good point, you can think you posting super good, but if it does not fit the forum it will be useless.

My view rarely goes to the username, much less to the merit counter, I just look at the comment if looks useful to me, I merit it, now it's another thing that I deplete my sMerit as soon as I receive it  

Seems like the way to go tbh! I like the way you thinking.

No merit is any easier than another to attain.

I disagree here, in the "Local board" you can basically just say "Hey I am new here and want to be Full Member could you guys please help me?" and whops, you got like 50 merits in a couple of days.
I just saw one example some days ago. The user: "PytagoraZ" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3559721
Got a lot of merit just because he begged in the Local board, I don't say it's wrong, but you can't compare it with someone that don't have a local board and need to start from scratch and use the brain to create good posts that other users like.  

Just a interesting question I started to think about.... I think it can be logical to have it harder to get Merit in the beginning before the forum learn to know you.

Actually, the first is about the easiest to get now if one isn't constantly checking time. In 2018 when the merit system was introduced we could talk about difficulty getting the first merit for newbies (and most users too) but it's not that way now with merit sources and others putting up threads to help people rank up. I acknowledge that it might take genuine newbies time to find these threads and to post in them as the usual navigation problem most of us had coming here too. However, if they do find them, just a single merit doesn't take much to give out if they've enough activities for it. Again, I've come to realize that most people find it enticing giving merit to those are at the verge of ranking up. Perhaps, it gives them satisfaction knowing they helped push someone to their next rank. So, in that case most newbies easily rank up if they aren't having just bounty reports. This is often the problem with newbies who register here and head straight to bounty hunting.

I had no idea about this, thanks for sharing it to me buddie!

[Nwada001]

Everyone has a different story, and we tell it based on our experience here in this forum. Based on my personal observation and experience, my first merit was not hard to get; it came easy to me, which was a bit surprising as I was never expecting it when I got a merit added to my profile. This was from my first thread, which I created when I began my journey here.
 
The place where I experienced some difficulties and it almost turned into a nightmare for me was after I crossed 10 merits and achieved a member rank. Ranking up to full member was like I was chasing 10,000 merits and not 90 merits extra; it was as if everything was going very slowly. 1 merit added to my merit count looked very odd to me, and this was the time when I had a missed feeling regarding whether I was ever going to get enough merit for my rank or not.
 
But lucky for me, after sometimes being able to make enough and rank up to full member rank, I have never had a hard time again making some merit, as I hardly look at the flow of it again as they were just coming in more than I expected them, and sometimes I got the required rank merit before I met up with my activities. Full member merit was what gave me a hard time to achieve.

[Helena Yu]

I disagree here, in the "Local board" you can basically just say "Hey I am new here and want to be Full Member could you guys please help me?" and whops, you got like 50 merits in a couple of days.

Can you pointed out which user did this? I mean you can't just write this because of your own assumption or anger. It's correct many new accounts get a lot merit in local board, but we don't understand about the language, using google translate isn't really accurate though.

If someone else is begging in local board and the moderator didn't delete such kind post, even more it get supported by the other users, it's worth to take an action.

Personally I don't care if someone get 1000 merits in local board, the problem is if these users are participating in signature campaign.

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, I don't think getting merit will be difficult for you. I received my first merit after about three or four months of being on the forum. But yes, at that time I was "ill" from the bounty, and of course, no one would give merit to a bunch of reports. But after completing my stupid journey of hunting for shitcoins and the next steps to expose scam projects, they gave me a lot of merit. The point is that you can’t just sit and wait for someone to come and give you something. Publish what you know; your skills will probably be useful to the forum and community. People see sincerity and know how to be grateful. The main thing is not to go out of your way to always be where there is an opportunity to catch merit. In addition, ranks that have a lot of merit cannot transfer some of the merit to their alt accounts. Firstly, this is not fair, and secondly, the community will see this, and it may turn out that, due to greed, a person will ruin his account, acquiring a bad reputation.