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September 18, 2023, 07:28:47 AM
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Well, I feel old... I remember those days, we called them "matchstickers".



You could always find them near the various markets, and bus/train stations. They work in couples and mostly scam people from outside the city. I didn't like this game, so I never played it. I started with betting on sports... in the beginning, we had just a few betting houses in the city. And that was nothing special, just one big room with one or two TVs, a small desk with some old computer and printer. Some of them had poker machines and one or two fruit slots.

I gambled on the street with friends, and for years I have been in crypto gambling... The conclusion is simple, gambling is gambling, and without some control, people can lose a lot and never recover. On the streets or online...

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September 18, 2023, 07:34:56 AM
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The commonest way for a person to likely be more addicted is through online gambling, be it using fiat or cryptocurrencies. But just that people on the street gambling can be addicted but better because such kind of person will be gambling less frequently unlike online gamblers that the games are available for all the time. A better than can be able to overcome gambling addiction online can be able to over addiction offline, but a person that can be able to overcome addiction offline may not be able to overcome addiction online.

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September 18, 2023, 07:45:20 AM
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If we talk about addiction, I think we all want to stop and get rid of this feeling, old gambling, maybe we can stay away from gambling places like on the street or offline because maybe at that time it doesn't seem comfortable to gamble, especially openly, I'm not a long-time gambler, but I admit that gambling like that does exist, but with increasingly advanced technology, everyone gambles using the internet through online casinos.

Everyone wants to get rid of addiction, in fact it will be very difficult to do that because it is better to reduce it, it will help us control money and time wisely in gambling in the future because addiction, whether old or new gambling, still feels the same, not much different, for example gambling It's only now that we use the internet where we all see that many people are never far from their cellphones which makes it possible for difficulties to recover from online gambling addiction because they can still access it whenever and wherever they are. That's why it's more difficult to cure online gambling addiction than old gambling, but whatever it is, it all depends on each person's experience  Wink

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September 18, 2023, 07:50:19 AM
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In those days I remember how people gamble in the street using there personal belongings such as clothes shoes etc and there gambling patterns then was so Archaic, very aggressive and violence and can never be compared with online gambling even intimes of experience no matter how experience you are on street gambling coming to an online gambling you are a novice because the knowledge of street gamble cannot be  use on online gambling, online gambling is free of violence compare to the old method of gambling.

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September 18, 2023, 08:35:12 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

I interpret that the essence of your question remains focused on addiction. even though you involve the evolution of gambling, starting from traditional gambling, land-based casinos and the era of online casinos including crypto casinos. what's the difference, if the point is on addiction, there is no significant difference for me. everything is the same, what is called an addiction, is still an addiction whatever the form and period. however, if you ask about the experience of the evolution of gambling, it is clear that there are many differences that make it a personal experience for us as gambling fans. I experienced several changes, starting from traditional, I mean gambling carried out by community groups, then the era of rapid development of land-based casinos, and moving to fiat online casinos to crypto casinos. Every change has its own experience. As technology becomes more sophisticated, we eventually adapt to follow these developments.

Talking about addiction, as I said before, what is called an addiction is still an addiction. there is no difference, between then and now, I mean in gambling practice. The point is, someone who is addicted is a condition that makes someone lose control over something. there is no difference, and nothing is more difficult to remove referring to the point of your question. So where is the problem, IMO, from ourselves. If you don't want to experience addiction, you need a broad understanding, responsibility, and definition of gambling itself. and if you are addicted, what is the solution, there are many methods and solutions that have been recommended by the community. In essence, if it doesn't involve real intention and strong determination, it seems difficult to recover from the addiction we experience.

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September 18, 2023, 08:56:11 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?
Not totally have the same experience but the results are still the same, often we lose rather than win. However, this was not the case when it comes to gambling but at least we enjoy doing this and have no regrets about losing our money. And talking about addiction, everyone can be possible whether you are an old gambler or new but I see that addiction mostly happens to newcomers. These days where the number of gambling platforms arises, the more chances that there are a lot of gamblers who fall into addiction.



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September 18, 2023, 09:04:40 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

There's no difference at all if you have an addiction to gambling whether for short or long periods of time, whether online or offline, both will show symptoms of addiction and both will have characters of those addicted to gambling, they play money that they can't afford to lose, they lie and deny that they are gambling too much and they always want money to sustain their addiction.

The cure is the same on all levels of addiction, they both need professional help I don't think there is such a thing as an additional level, all addiction needs professional help, and they only differ in an individual who's motivated to cure his addiction.

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September 18, 2023, 09:12:47 AM
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That's an interesting thought! @OP. A gambler who's seen gambling evolve from the streets to the digital age might have a deeper connection to it, simply because they've adapted through the changing times. But someone who's only known online or crypto gambling could get hooked faster due to its convenience and pace. However, breaking an addiction isn't just about how long or where one's gambled; it's also about personal factors and support systems. Both could have a tough time quitting, depending on their individual circumstances. It's a complex issue, and every person's journey with addiction is unique.




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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

Yes, that's right, the world of gambling has evolved from betting between individuals to online gambling. It has a long history, and gambling activities have existed since ancient times.

I think the most addictive gambling is online gambling. Online gambling is very easy to play, you can deposit just by using a smartphone, you can use m-banking or crypto, you don't need to go anywhere, you can even gamble in the toilet. All transactions use electronic money so we don't see how much money we deposit to gambling site because everything is just a note, unlike gambling at a land casino, we will think twice about risking all our money, because we hold real money.

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September 18, 2023, 09:52:30 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

Yes, that's right, the world of gambling has evolved from betting between individuals to online gambling. It has a long history, and gambling activities have existed since ancient times.

I think the most addictive gambling is online gambling. Online gambling is very easy to play, you can deposit just by using a smartphone, you can use m-banking or crypto, you don't need to go anywhere, you can even gamble in the toilet. All transactions use electronic money so we don't see how much money we deposit to gambling site because everything is just a note, unlike gambling at a land casino, we will think twice about risking all our money, because we hold real money.
Why do I think that it's because of the fact that the technological advancements that now allows individuals from any part of the world to access gambling sites and place bets using their smartphones as the major reason why we now have many gambling addicts than we what we witnessed in the time when gambling activities have to be physical between two or more people before gambling can take place?
The new technological advancements has their advantages like the ease to place bets from the comfort of anywhere you chose to but it's also making many people who doesn't know how to gamble responsibly to get involved in gambling.

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September 18, 2023, 09:57:16 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

In terms of the experience they’ll be getting from gambling, I might say that they won’t be the same, the fact that a gambling OG has stayed very long time in the industry means that he has experienced some things that a newbies will take years to experience, so the newbie might come across come new things and be amazed by it but to the og that’s just another normal thing for him, so they might be a difference in their experience and also perception of what they’re doing.

Now for the addiction part, I know that when we were newly introduced to gambling we also have this excitement whenever we have some winning streaks and when we were on a losing streaks there’s this urge to keep betting so that we can win back what we have lost but for someone who has stayed in the industry for a long time, it will be easy for them to just calm it a quit and move on than someone who’s just experiencing it for the first time and have no discipline about it. So it’s very easy for a newbie to get addicted to gambling through one means or another than an OG.

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September 18, 2023, 10:34:40 AM
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probably an old gambler has more experience to understand what he is doing and what are the risk linked to bets.
meanwhile a "new" gambler could have some bias and made mistakes or underestimate betting risks.

by the way, an addiction is something similar for a player even if he is "new" or "old" gambler... it's always an addiction!

Yes, I side with you, an old gambler may have experienced a lot of things from gambling, both the winning and the losing experience, he has heard them, so if a new gambler is seeking experience, he or she should go meet the old gambler for gambling advice and not to seek advice from a new gambler or even someone who is not yet a gambler.

Although even as an old gambler, you might not have experienced any gambling unless you are a well-addicted gambler and I don't think it is a good idea to get advice from a gambling addict, so you might not end up being an addicted gambler to come.

Street gambling is bad because it can result in fights and quarrels sometimes, but online gambling you can keep it as a secret and you can not gamble online with any physical things like houses, cars or even other people's things and that is why online gambling is better than street gambling.

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There have been many studies that have shown that gaming addiction is more difficult to treat, even than drug addiction. It is very difficult for someone who has fallen into the clutches of the game to just quit playing. And it doesn’t matter whether he plays on the street or plays online. Today you can take out loans freely, and players, if they have no other choice, do not hesitate to borrow. As they say, there are no drug addicts who will quit drugs on their own, without the intervention of doctors, just as it is difficult for a gambling addict to give up his habit. If new ways of playing are invented, the old player will try to play wherever he can get the winnings that he has been dreaming about all his life.

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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?
Addiction may develop in both ways but I think it’s harder to control addiction in this new era wherein with just one click away, you are already betting on an online gambling site. Especially that internet connection is everywhere, and as long as you have reserved funds in your wallet, it’s certainly more tempting these days to gamble more consistently until you ran out of your funds. Thus, gambling addiction rate has even surge high when online gambling has occurred, and if you have no control of your gambling habit, you will definitely see yourself in a huge mess.

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September 18, 2023, 11:02:30 AM
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If we talk about addiction, I think we all want to stop and get rid of this feeling, old gambling, maybe we can stay away from gambling places like on the street or offline because maybe at that time it doesn't seem comfortable to gamble, especially openly, I'm not a long-time gambler, but I admit that gambling like that does exist, but with increasingly advanced technology, everyone gambles using the internet through online casinos.

Everyone wants to get rid of addiction, in fact it will be very difficult to do that because it is better to reduce it, it will help us control money and time wisely in gambling in the future because addiction, whether old or new gambling, still feels the same, not much different, for example gambling It's only now that we use the internet where we all see that many people are never far from their cellphones which makes it possible for difficulties to recover from online gambling addiction because they can still access it whenever and wherever they are. That's why it's more difficult to cure online gambling addiction than old gambling, but whatever it is, it all depends on each person's experience  Wink
Your reply seems to understand addiction, but I think you're minimising it. Internet or off, gambling is a beast, not a pet. Online casinos? They're temptation distilled, not just evolution.

I've encountered many people who think they can quit online gambling. You're playing with fire if you always carry a casino with you. Everyone likes to think they're special. But guess what? It is intended for online gambling to be addicted. Decrease it? Thats like drinking less from a poisoned chalice.

You choose every time you tap that app. If you think that offline and online are the same thing, you're going to have to face some harsh realities. Addiction isnt fun, and rehabilitation takes more than hope.

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September 18, 2023, 11:05:54 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

All symptoms and cures for addiction are the same whether you develop it earlier or later are all the same, addiction needs professional guidance to cure it there's no shortcut on this they will have to undergo evaluation and the professional will set up a pattern to break the addiction.
Addicted gamblers need all the understanding and care from their family and friends it's hard to break the chain because addiction is already deeply embedded but there's always a cure, the addicted and his family should not lose just because he is an addict for a very long time and those who got addicted too early should have the same treatment like long time addicted to gambling.

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September 18, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
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I had periods where I gambled on the streets with my friends to fill our free time. There we played traditional gambling, sometimes playing cards using money as a bet. As adults, we still play traditional gambling, but not too often and only when we really don't have anything else to do.

Finally, I discovered crypto, started getting to know crypto casinos, and started playing dice at a casino. That is the excitement I get from the evolution of gambling, from gambling directly with my friends to gambling at online crypto casinos. But I have never gambled at an online fiat casino because I don't want to use a bank account to deposit the money.

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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

It all depends and it doesn't have a direct answer. Originally, that gambler who was a street one gambling offline and later metamorphose into online and gambling with cryptocurrency is suppose to have more experience than he who just joined newly with cryptocurrency but the thing is in gambling, overtaking is also allowed. This means that the zeal of the old gambler might drop especially if he is not making profit from the online cryptocurrency gambling. He might have been having negative experience after he signed up with the casino while the new player is having good time with winning. So it is difficult to give clear answer because the circumstances may vary.

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September 18, 2023, 01:52:05 PM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

All symptoms and cures for addiction are the same whether you develop it earlier or later are all the same, addiction needs professional guidance to cure it there's no shortcut on this they will have to undergo evaluation and the professional will set up a pattern to break the addiction.
Addicted gamblers need all the understanding and care from their family and friends it's hard to break the chain because addiction is already deeply embedded but there's always a cure, the addicted and his family should not lose just because he is an addict for a very long time and those who got addicted too early should have the same treatment like long time addicted to gambling.

Yes and I think the cure for quitting gambling is very different from the general symptom cure, I think the cure is within each gambler, which is in their mind and it's true that they are all the same. Yes, maybe the guidance of some professionals can also be useful to slightly reduce their addiction through some advice and mediation with those who are professionals who certainly already know all the conditions experienced by the gambler himself and that can be quite helpful. But I think everything will come back to themselves because they have made themselves trapped in addiction because of the wrong mindset, so the main thing that must be changed is their mindset which has indirectly misled themselves.

I think if they still can't change their mindset then the way that can be taken next is with attention and restrictions from their own family, I think they have to limit in any way that can make that person able to gamble again, and if possible keep them away from their environment first, let them undergo rehabilitation first. For the first few stages I think do that first.

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September 18, 2023, 02:12:43 PM
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whose addiction will be harder to break?
The evolution of gambling from time to time has seen significant growth and drastic development, people are getting easier to gamble day by day, All of this cannot be separated from the genius possessed by humans themselves and the technology that is developing rapidly at this time.

I've seen several of my friends who are addicted, even though I see them often playing online gambling, crypto and so on, but they can't forget about physical gambling, he still bets physically even though he also uses it online to gamble. For me, even though the world of gambling is experiencing changes and various kinds of gambling evolutions, for me physical gambling cannot be eliminated.

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