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September 18, 2023, 06:14:25 PM
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It's impossible to tell.

Addiction doesn't depend on experience, but  rather person's mental fitness, genetics, and such. It's the same with drugs. You can have a group of old addicts and young addicts and in both groups you'll be able to find people who are easy to cure with a small effort and hardcore addicts that just don't want to come out of it.
In general it's probably more difficult for an old gambler to stop because he's so used to it.
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September 18, 2023, 07:14:38 PM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

All addiction are hard to break but,  how hard the addiction to break is dependent on the level of addiction and not on where he got the addiction from.  It also depends on how long the gambler is exposed to gambling.  We may say a person had gone from street gambling to cryptocurrency gambling but the person who just play in a street gambling were exposed longer than the first one, may have a harder time treating his gambling addiction.  After all the gambling addiction level of a person who has been exposed longer to gambling is way deeper than the person who happen to gamble all through the evolution of gambling.
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September 18, 2023, 07:37:26 PM
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I'd say it's as the saying goes: old habits die hard.

Experienced gamblers will feel better, be more calm while betting, but they will also be much harder to talk out of gambling or completely stop. It became a part of their lives and it's not going to go away unless they really want it to and get professional help.

That said, it's not like young people can't be experienced. It depends on the frequency of gambling. You can be an old gambler who did it once a week and you'll be nothing compared to a young guy who gambled every day for the last 5 years.

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September 18, 2023, 08:27:24 PM
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It will be easier to break the addiction of the first person you mentioned, because as someone who has experienced everything and understands the win/loss ratio here, you can convince this person more easily than the other person and direct them to the other side by making an explanation that they should not gamble and bet anymore, but for the other person, as a person who has just started to taste it, it will be difficult for you to convince this person that this is a bad way. The experienced person knows more or less what can happen and what can be done about it, they can tell themselves to stop and give up at once, whereas the other person, being inexperienced, cannot fully predict what will happen to them, and even if you tell them that they will see it in the future, they will not believe it.

 
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September 18, 2023, 09:49:33 PM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

Man, let's say I have an answer for you:...  the old gambler...

... what good is that answer to you?.
The best way to deal with this issue is to go to an expert in the matter, what I mentioned and I will always say it, if you suspect that you are addicted, or your friend's friend's friend's friend of the other friend is the one who is suffering from the symptoms, then, please!, pay a doctor for a consultation.

Results:
1.- new gambler; it is the best first bet you can make if you are a novice casino player.

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2.- old gambler; it would perhaps be the best last bet you can make to obtain the best benefit.






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September 18, 2023, 09:53:58 PM
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Uhhhh, I feel this ain't even about who started off first, this is about who's been more regular on this shit.... The other fellow might have stacked his houses and cars whatever,.. but, if this new dude becomes more consistent on staking 'em cash and coins, mahn, the possibilities of becoming an addict is damn,..100%
Any habit that evolves into an addiction has been nursed steadily with consistency - so how much you've spent and how long you've been gambling doesn't constitute to anything there.

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September 18, 2023, 10:04:47 PM
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the cryptocurrency market is still a market with less than 20 years of existence and the casinos that accept cryptocurrencies are also very recent, most of them, we just need to see that in 2017 there were few crypto betting houses, so everything is very recent and the people who are in the world of gambling and play in physical casinos, it is difficult to leave physical casinos to go to online casinos and the same happens for those old people who play in online casinos that accept fiat, they will continue using the same online casinos that accept fiat . So if we take the number of people who have been using fiat casinos for many years and who today are only using online casinos that only accept cryptocurrencies, we will see that the number of people will be low

If we consider the number of people who have never been to a physical casino and never used a fiat online casino and before that they didn't even know anything about gambling, they were just people who entered the cryptocurrencies market to start investing, then we will see that this The number of people will be a very high number and will constitute the majority of customers at casinos that accept cryptocurrencies. There is no need to pay for a research company to come and do research on this entire market to reach the same conclusion as mine

and only each one of us who has been on this forum for more than 5 years if you ask yourself when you came here to the forum did you come to invest in cryptocurrencies or to play in a casino that accepts payments in cryptocurrencies, the answer for most people will be that you came to this forum to invest in cryptocurrencies, but by chance, because they started participating in subscription campaigns and posting in this section of the forum, they started using casinos and entered the world of gambling, by this I mean that the customers of crypto casinos are the majority Sometimes people who are new to the world of gambling are not people who started playing 10 years ago

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September 19, 2023, 01:31:10 PM
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When it comes to addiction, it's all about the concept, and that has always been the same - to win, even if someone has gambled on the streets or gambled in an online casino, their aim will still be the same but there will just be a change in the experience. However, the level of addiction will probably not have a lot of differences because even if you are gambling on the streets, you would still feel the same urge for gambling that you do when gambling online.

But, if someone has been gambling just for fun since old times when gambling was all done in physical spaces, they might see a lot of differences because gambling in a land-based casino is too much different than gambling in an online casino, the thrill of a land-based casino can't be experienced online.
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September 19, 2023, 02:02:19 PM
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As like the other field,the gambling also made the huge difference with the experience.If the website also the old one,the gambler can easily make the correct betting using experience.The gamblers without experience will do the random bet as compared to the experienced gamblers.The experienced gambler will take time to bet,they keep analysis of the full game,they take the correct time to bet.Because the same casino and experience alone enough for the good win by the experienced gamblers.The freshers do random bet all the time should be avoided.Just work for a month using the practical experience in the gambling with a small amount of bet and increase the money in some months will help for big win.
Experienced gambler is high unlikely will become a gambling addict because he was used to gamble a lot and he's still don't have any problem caused by gambling. While new gambler without experience are prone to be a gambling addict. But it doesn't mean experienced gambler has higher probability to win than the new gambler, gambling is full of luck, so it's same.

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September 19, 2023, 02:17:03 PM
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As like the other field,the gambling also made the huge difference with the experience.If the website also the old one,the gambler can easily make the correct betting using experience.The gamblers without experience will do the random bet as compared to the experienced gamblers.The experienced gambler will take time to bet,they keep analysis of the full game,they take the correct time to bet.Because the same casino and experience alone enough for the good win by the experienced gamblers.The freshers do random bet all the time should be avoided.Just work for a month using the practical experience in the gambling with a small amount of bet and increase the money in some months will help for big win.
Experienced gambler is high unlikely will become a gambling addict because he was used to gamble a lot and he's still don't have any problem caused by gambling. While new gambler without experience are prone to be a gambling addict. But it doesn't mean experienced gambler has higher probability to win than the new gambler, gambling is full of luck, so it's same.

Well, that purely depends. If the old gambler has only devoted spare time and spare change to feed his gambling needs, then I guess he's far from being addicted as he was able to survive all sorts of gambling without getting broke. While the newer one who only experienced one of two kinds of gambling, may have been frequently visiting the casino or online casino, that makes him become more prone to addiction or the addiction is already in the process.
Therefore, we cannot determine a gambling addict base on the length of experience, but it's the severity and uncontrollable urges.

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September 19, 2023, 02:39:17 PM
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As like the other field,the gambling also made the huge difference with the experience.If the website also the old one,the gambler can easily make the correct betting using experience.The gamblers without experience will do the random bet as compared to the experienced gamblers.The experienced gambler will take time to bet,they keep analysis of the full game,they take the correct time to bet.Because the same casino and experience alone enough for the good win by the experienced gamblers.The freshers do random bet all the time should be avoided.Just work for a month using the practical experience in the gambling with a small amount of bet and increase the money in some months will help for big win.
Experienced gambler is high unlikely will become a gambling addict because he was used to gamble a lot and he's still don't have any problem caused by gambling. While new gambler without experience are prone to be a gambling addict. But it doesn't mean experienced gambler has higher probability to win than the new gambler, gambling is full of luck, so it's same.

Well, that purely depends. If the old gambler has only devoted spare time and spare change to feed his gambling needs, then I guess he's far from being addicted as he was able to survive all sorts of gambling without getting broke. While the newer one who only experienced one of two kinds of gambling, may have been frequently visiting the casino or online casino, that makes him become more prone to addiction or the addiction is already in the process.
Therefore, we cannot determine a gambling addict base on the length of experience, but it's the severity and uncontrollable urges.

I don't think that visiting a casino for a long or short period of time is the most influential factor for developing addictions. Some people play their whole life and never become addicted, some people drink alcohol their whole life and never become addicted in the clinical sense. Usually there is something deeply rooted that triggers someone to tend to develop addictions. I guess, and this is just an assumption, someone who has a gambling addiction also has either other addictions or problems that the person tries to compensate for. I don't think it has to do with "experience" as a gambler.

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September 19, 2023, 02:49:14 PM
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~snip~But, if someone has been gambling just for fun since old times when gambling was all done in physical spaces, they might see a lot of differences because gambling in a land-based casino is too much different than gambling in an online casino, the thrill of a land-based casino can't be experienced online.

There will be many differences and these will be very noticeable. Online casinos may be easy to access and deposits are very easy, just press the numbers with your smartphone and everything will be done. This convenience will also have a very bad impact when the addict continues to make deposits until his wealth runs out without any limits. But if we look at online casinos, the gambler may only provide a few dollars that he brings, not using a credit card or anything. This may be a bit restrictive in continuing to play when that cash runs out. But what it means to be an addict in that context would be the same.
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September 19, 2023, 03:03:10 PM
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Experienced gambler is high unlikely will become a gambling addict because he was used to gamble a lot and he's still don't have any problem caused by gambling. While new gambler without experience are prone to be a gambling addict. But it doesn't mean experienced gambler has higher probability to win than the new gambler, gambling is full of luck, so it's same.


Well, that purely depends. If the old gambler has only devoted spare time and spare change to feed his gambling needs, then I guess he's far from being addicted as he was able to survive all sorts of gambling without getting broke. While the newer one who only experienced one of two kinds of gambling, may have been frequently visiting the casino or online casino, that makes him become more prone to addiction or the addiction is already in the process.
Therefore, we cannot determine a gambling addict base on the length of experience, but it's the severity and uncontrollable urges.

I don't think that visiting a casino for a long or short period of time is the most influential factor for developing addictions. Some people play their whole life and never become addicted, some people drink alcohol their whole life and never become addicted in the clinical sense. Usually there is something deeply rooted that triggers someone to tend to develop addictions. I guess, and this is just an assumption, someone who has a gambling addiction also has either other addictions or problems that the person tries to compensate for. I don't think it has to do with "experience" as a gambler.

Yes there may be some people who are or play in casinos for a long time does not affect them or turn them into an addict, but I think and I will say that this activity can also really make them finally change their mindset like an addict in general. They are in the casino for a long time and it is impossible if there they are just silent, definitely by gambling and as we know that too long gambling is very bad for anyone because it is very likely that they are controlled by lust and curiosity because of several defeats, and after that I think it is possible that they change their mindset and gamble with the aim of returning the defeat the previous day and well that cycle is a cycle of addiction that has no time limit.

But what makes more sense and what is the main cause of their addiction is because they intentionally or came up with the wrong mindset of gambling for income, there are so many like that. Addiction takes root in a person's mind and continues to grow, and I said that too long in the casino can also really make them finally addicted because the situation there is like telling them to keep gambling. And well for the problem of experience I also don't think that way, whether you have experience or not I think it doesn't matter, depending on your mindset.

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September 19, 2023, 03:29:37 PM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?
I honestly think that the first one is harder to break because he has grown up on it, it's been on his system for many years and he tasted the ups and downs and everything that a gambling addict could experience, this kind of compulsive gambler are good at keeping their feeling because of their long experiences of having this addiction.

it will take a good professional and a well planning to eradicate gambling addiction in his system, but of course, it can be cured he needs all the support of his family, friends, and of course, his will to get cured.


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Well, it is what it is; gambling is gambling no matter the way it's present, just as addiction is. Non is very easy to break their addicts; if you are an online gambler, you could sell your personal belongings and convert the money to cryptocurrency; if that's what it takes, then you can see the person start gambling again, while for street gambling, it's even a free pass for the person that he or she doesn't need to go through much process unless to sell or even use his property to gamble right in the sport of gambling. There is one general thing to get someone to stop a bad habit, and that is that they have to realize and believe that they have gone too far on the wrong part and they need to retrace; otherwise, you can help a compulsive gambler.

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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?
Yes it has a different feeling. From years of being in gambling industry to both landbased and online, I’d say how the games evolved, and the way rewards became bigger nowadays, have shown progress for gambling industry and that includes the platform and currency being used in every transaction. And I think online gambling at the present is more addictive and entertaining than before so maybe, addiction to new players towards gambling activities is more difficult to break but that depends on the individual as we all know. If you’re a greedy gambler, you’d be at risk of struggling to get out of gambling to either old platforms or new ones.

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September 20, 2023, 11:56:45 PM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling?

Generally, the main purpose of why people gamble is to expect something good in return therefore, either old gambling or new gambling, the same purpose is still what they are eyeing for. If we talk about the gambling experience in terms of innovation, obviously there are lots of changes as platforms always come up with new idea to attract users and of course, the technology behind gambling is changing as it progress.

whose addiction will be harder to break?

Gambling is gambling whatever the form, type, or changes it made throughout several years from the current time. The addiction depends on how gamblers will approach gambling in general regardless if they gamble in physical casinos, online casinos, or the crypto-gambling world.

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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

In fact, the experience is completely different...

Gambling has evolved a lot with the spread of online betting sites and also with the acceptance of cryptos as a currency for payments and withdrawals.

I believe that the main problem with physical casinos has always been the issue of player security and anonymity. Even though KYC is gaining momentum, many players would not be as willing to play at a physical casino as they are to play at online gambling sites that accept crypto.

Ah, I was almost forgetting... I'm sure that another important factor that also accelerated this growth was the advancement of technology in the mobile sector, several gaming platforms and websites made a very massive move to optimize their businesses for portable devices in order to make them fluid on smartphones and tablets that can be easily taken anywhere.

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September 21, 2023, 02:44:27 AM
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The evolution of gambling over time is really great but it is getting worse on coping with addiction because mostly in gambling online it is so difficult because you can gamble anytime you want unlike before when you couldn't gamble once it was close or you would have time to go to a casino which sometimes hassle  and prevented you from doing gambling.
 
Comfortability-wise, it is really online gambling but worse if you can't control your emotions you will become addicted easily.
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September 21, 2023, 04:38:50 AM
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Do you think it is the same experience for a gambler who has practically experienced and been involved in gambling evolution since gambling was on the street side with personal belongings or money, to spaces and buildings for gambling with money, to gambling with money online, and now to gambling with cryptocurrency online with a gambler who has experienced a few or just one of the forms of gambling? whose addiction will be harder to break?

It is not very easy to say because we can never understand what someone is feeling. But I think all the gamblers who have played offline gambling in the past and the amount of addiction they had will not take much time to break it. For if the man is so addicted to gambling that he loses all his money by gambling, he must find employment, and if Congress seeks him, he must be gradually freed from gambling addiction. But a person addicted to online gambling never takes such steps rather he gets so addicted to gambling that he can never quit it. Today's gamblers are more addicted to casinos than the gamblers of yesteryear. It has been observed that there are individuals who gamble with cryptocurrencies online and accumulate good funds with the goal of increasing their funds. Many a times they win the jackpot and lots of money and with that money again starts gambling again and at one time he gets addicted to gambling in large amounts. Moreover, in the earlier era people did not gamble online due to which the dignitaries of many societies used various judgments to free them from gambling and feared those gamblers. Today's gamblers avoid them and instead gamble online with mobile computers at night in various ways that no one can catch. A gambler doesn't get bored of gambling until the money runs out but quits gambling when the money runs out, which I think is the most addictive tax.

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