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September 18, 2023, 10:45:41 PM
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Hello! I'd like to seize this moment to offer my insights on the Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) strategy, aiming to clarify its concept and its intended purpose for those who may still find it unclear.

DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.

In contrast, a lump sum payment is a one-time investment, the opposite of DCA.

Let's delve into how DCA operates:

Imagine the current price of BTC is $20,000, and you're a high-earning individual looking to invest in this asset. If you make a lump sum investment, you would acquire one BTC at a cost of $20,000.

However, with DCA, you spread that $20,000 across five equal $4,000 purchases, resulting in costs of $20,000/BTC, $15,000/BTC, $5,000/BTC, $5,000/BTC, and $25,000/BTC. This approach yields an average cost basis of $18,000, and you'd have 2.3 Bitcoin. When Bitcoin's price eventually rises, your gains can be amplified because you lowered the average cost of acquiring your holdings. With DCA, you steadily accumulate more Bitcoin, even during market ups and downs.

To illustrate, your first purchase acquires 20% of 1 BTC at $20,000. The second purchase, at $15,000, gets you 26.66% of 1 BTC. Your third and fourth purchases, both at $5,000, result in a total of 80% of 1 BTC with each buy. Your final purchase, at $25,000, represents about 16% of 1 BTC. In total, you've accumulated around 2.3 BTC.

However, it's important to note that DCA may not always work in your favor. In some situations, it could increase your average cost, especially during a bull run. Nevertheless, the purpose of DCA is to spread your investments incrementally, which can be advantageous in the long run. It provides a balanced approach to accumulating assets, ensuring you still acquire your desired cryptocurrency. I hope this explanation sheds light on the essence of DCA.
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DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.
DCA does not only include investing small amount of capital over time. Small or big capital for each time of DCA depends on your total capital for investment and your DCA plan.

You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round. Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend as well as your available funds for DCA at that time. If you see the market is good and you have money in hands, you can DCA with doubled capital than your normal amount.

If your income flow suddenly decreases, you can stop DCA or DCA with smaller capital amount.

Many things that affect your DCA plan and don't bind yourself with any amount of capital. Even you try, you will fail to follow it.

Want to have DCA math and tool, use it https://dcabtc.com/

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You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round. Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend as well as your available funds for DCA at that time. If you see the market is good and you have money in hands, you can DCA with doubled capital than your normal amount.

You can technically do it like this and twist the strategy in whatever way you want, but the main purpose of DCA is to just buy an equal amount every time, to eliminate the psychological/emotional factor of markets. Changing the amounts every time kind of defeats the purpose of doing DCA.

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September 19, 2023, 02:57:56 AM
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DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.
DCA does not only include investing small amount of capital over time. Small or big capital for each time of DCA depends on your total capital for investment and your DCA plan.

You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round. Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend as well as your available funds for DCA at that time. If you see the market is good and you have money in hands, you can DCA with doubled capital than your normal amount.
Want to have DCA math and tool, use it https://dcabtc.com/
I didn't bother to check the website you attached because you are already deviating from the true reason and scope of DCAing in investment. This is an investment strategy that has longlived before cryptocurrency and the main aim is to divide your money into equal and smaller parts and invest regularly. What you are describing here is quite the opposite as your plans will not be equal and the investment will be irregular. All these are what DCA itself preaches against.

However, you own your money and you can invest it the way you want, and just like me, I practice something similar to what you explained, but we should never call it true DCA, it's a different thing entirely.

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September 19, 2023, 03:13:26 AM
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You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round. Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend as well as your available funds for DCA at that time. If you see the market is good and you have money in hands, you can DCA with doubled capital than your normal amount.

You can technically do it like this and twist the strategy in whatever way you want, but the main purpose of DCA is to just buy an equal amount every time, to eliminate the psychological/emotional factor of markets. Changing the amounts every time kind of defeats the purpose of doing DCA.

These are nuances. What is classically called DCA, pure DCA, would be buying the same quantities at the same time intervals. If it is not so exact but we can buy more depending on the available money or we vary the intervals depending on the availability (and we buy an extra amount for example on the day we receive a bonus) it would already be a variant of DCA, which can have more volatility.

With pure DCA in an asset that appreciates over the long term what we do is to dampen volatility and as we move away from the same intervals and equal amounts we risk having more volatility.

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Very strange it seems every month there is some DCA thread on bitcointalk.

DCA works but generally if you are unlucky and buy during the peak or DCA sell during the bottom then it won’t work out best for you.

It’s best to spread it apart, maybe few months apart. That way you aren’t like the El Salvador president who bought bitcoin near the peak and has still a long way until he breaks even. Same with Saylor. Bought large amounts near the peak and still hasn’t broken even.

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The unpredictability of Bitcoin's price is perfect for this approach. Regardless of how good you are in your technical and fundamental analyses, you can never have a guarantee that you will always be right. You cannot tell with certainty whether Bitcoin would rise to $30,000 or fall to $25,000 next month. Doing away with betting on either of those possibilities and just buy at a determined interval is the perfect approach.

There was somebody here who commented that speculation can affect the DCA approach. I don't agree.
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September 19, 2023, 06:06:33 AM
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Very strange it seems every month there is some DCA thread on bitcointalk.
Yea noticed that too
What's your actual dca strategy?
percentage of your income you dollar cost average in bitcoin

Op, this doesn't totally defines DCA. Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) is a strategy where you invest a set amount of money into an asset regularly, no matter its current price. It's crucial to watch how the market goes up and down and change your DCA plan if needed. If you earn more or the market shifts a lot, you can adjust your investment strategy. Being flexible is important because the market can change, affecting your initial  investment plan.

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September 19, 2023, 06:30:27 AM
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DCA does not only include investing small amount of capital over time. Small or big capital for each time of DCA depends on your total capital for investment and your DCA plan.

You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round. Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend as well as your available funds for DCA at that time. If you see the market is good and you have money in hands, you can DCA with doubled capital than your normal amount.

If your income flow suddenly decreases, you can stop DCA or DCA with smaller capital amount.

Many things that affect your DCA plan and don't bind yourself with any amount of capital. Even you try, you will fail to follow it.

Want to have DCA math and tool, use it https://dcabtc.com/
Applying the main DCA which is the same amount at equal intervals will favor those who already have the money to invest based on their plan. Since the money is already available they can easily invest the same amount at equal intervals. It can also favor those that have a stable and consistent income.  But when someone's earning is not consistent DCA might become inconsistent. The investor will buy more when his income for a period is high and less when his income drops.

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September 19, 2023, 06:40:21 AM
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...Sometimes you can use smaller or bigger amount of capital for a DCA round. Because it can depends on your feeling about the market trend ...

That is not DCA.

DCA is based on two simple principals:

1. You believe that the price will rise over the long-term.
2. You acknowledge that you don't know what the price will do over the short term.

DCA has been shown to be a better investment strategy than timing the market based on "your feeling about the market trend". The reason is that people have biases that cause poor judgment. The purpose of DCA is to avoid these biases.

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Honestly, I don't have a fixed amount when I buy cryptocurrency or bitcoin. It's just simple: if I have extra money, even a small amount like $10 or $15, I immediately buy it for cryptocurrency. Sometimes it's once a week, and sometimes twice.

Although there is nothing wrong if you do it with a fixed amount every week, as long as it is worth it if there is an opportunity, we are not sure when we will have a lot of profit in our lives. Because there are also times when it is very low, I want to save coins. That's why I didn't have anything to buy on the day itself, which was very low.

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September 19, 2023, 07:07:52 AM
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It's crucial to watch how the market goes up and down and change your DCA plan if needed.
The whole point of using DCA is not having to consistenly check the market and obsess & stress about price fluctuations. Instead, you are supposed to buy the bitcoin at the regular intervals no matter the current price, beliveing that price in the long term will go up.

What you explained is basically trying to time the market, which in the end is more about luck than anything else and is opposite of DCA.


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September 19, 2023, 08:20:51 AM
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Make it short, DCA is a strategy where you buy an asset regularly every day/week/month without need to care about the price or anything else.

Aside from lump sum, there's another strategy called average down where you buy an asset regularly during the asset's price is declining.

I think the best is DCA, but you can mix with average down strategy when the price drop a lot e.g. 10% in a day.

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September 19, 2023, 08:28:27 AM
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DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.
DCA does not only include investing small amount of capital over time. Small or big capital for each time of DCA depends on your total capital for investment and your DCA plan.

You even don't have to use a same amount of capital for each DCA round.
You can plan your DCA strategy any how you want but you won't be practicing true DCA if your investment or annual buys are not equal and at intervals. The true purpose of DCA is help reduce your average cost when acquiring an asset expecially in  very volatile conditions so you won't have to worry about the price change in the market.
I'll advice that you plan your DCA strategy according to your income or  capital at hand . I don't advice DCA if your not steady on your income
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Even though you gave a thorough explanation, it seems like you're indirectly pushing DCA as the best way to invest in crypto. And I have to strongly disagree with that. Yes, DCA can be useful during market downturns, but we shouldnt oversimplify things. Its hard to know what will happen in the crypto market, and every plan has flaws.

Also, the way you showed the BTC price makes it look like prices are stable, which they are not at all. It makes sense to spread out purchases, but what if the market keeps going up? Every time you bought something, the price went up!

Always keep in mind that there is no guaranteed way to make money with investments. If you promote DCA without explaining its possible downsides, you might leave yourself vulnerable

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DCA Means Doller cost Average. Following DCA is a matter of personal preference as it only minimizes everyone's losses. To calculate, let's say you invest $1000 in Bitcoin without investing the entire amount in one transaction.  Divide it into parts like investing $100 per week so you can buy bitcoins at different prices to minimize your losses.  And if you invest the entire $1000 in one transaction, you will lose a lot if the price of Bitcoin goes down, and if the price goes up, you will gain more.



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September 19, 2023, 01:57:17 PM
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DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.
I think it's not wise to call DCA an Installment and then say that we have to pay it until it's paid off. Because we are not paying to anyone instead we are accumulating BTC as much as we can and in DCA we just have to accumulate BTC according to some time interval and the investment should be the same (but not necessarily as it is not writer anywhere that you have to invest a fixed amount of fiat into the BTC). Besides all that you do understand what is DCA but failed to explain it. Because your example is also very tough to understand.

But still, it makes sense but for those who are already pro or not newbies here, but the aforementioned example lacks some simplicity. I hope you will not mind my words.

However, it's important to note that DCA may not always work in your favor. In some situations, it could increase your average cost, especially during a bull run. Nevertheless, the purpose of DCA is to spread your investments incrementally, which can be advantageous in the long run. It provides a balanced approach to accumulating assets, ensuring you still acquire your desired cryptocurrency. I hope this explanation sheds light on the essence of DCA.
Many people might not agree with my opinion which is, that we should not do DCA in a bull run instead the best time is the one when the accumulation phase starts. And accumulation phase starts after the bull run. In that phase, we should do DCA as much as we can and also buy on dips and keep in mind that we should keep some funds in emergency too. I prefer not to do DCA in Bull Run because in bull run I prefer to book the profit that I have made while the accumulation of it. I hope you will understand my point.

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Hello! I'd like to seize this moment to offer my insights on the Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) strategy, aiming to clarify its concept and its intended purpose for those who may still find it unclear.

However, it's important to note that DCA may not always work in your favor. In some situations, it could increase your average cost, especially during a bull run. Nevertheless, the purpose of DCA is to spread your investments incrementally, which can be advantageous in the long run. It provides a balanced approach to accumulating assets, ensuring you still acquire your desired cryptocurrency. I hope this explanation sheds light on the essence of DCA.


hmm, what if I'm in the same situation what would I do? I would choose to do my investment using the DCA'ing technique. This is the best approach where we can have the best way to get more profit and when we look at our portfolio or calculate our "PNL" it probably shows us the profit.

DCA'ing is not always about just buying at dips somehow we wish to buy in the dip but this approach doesn't represent buying only dips at all. well, what would I say about  DCA'ing I would say if the person has his cash flow he should accumulate BTC using the DCA technique like S/he must invest 10$ to100$ each week according to his/her money he/she has.


Many people might not agree with my opinion which is, that we should not do DCA in a bull run instead the best time is the one when the accumulation phase starts. And accumulation phase starts after the bull run. In that phase, we should do DCA as much as we can and also buy on dips and keep in mind that we should keep some funds in emergency too. I prefer not to do DCA in Bull Run because in Bull Run I prefer to book the profit that I have made while the accumulation of it. I hope you will understand my point.


Hmm I agree, accumulation of BTC is not always about buying just dips most probably when you are doing DCA. What do I think the person who has the best potential for his cash inflow s/he is earning the best amount weekly. S/he need not to worry about his emergency funds. In case, S/he needs some money they would not withdraw their BTC as emergency funds because they have the potential of cash inflow from which they will be able to fulfil their desire or needs. Cash inflow gives the ease of mind So, At the end of the day they would be able to register their planned goal of having a good profit and their way to accumulation of BTC will stay as it is.

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DCA Means Doller cost Average. Following DCA is a matter of personal preference as it only minimizes everyone's losses. To calculate, let's say you invest $1000 in Bitcoin without investing the entire amount in one transaction.  Divide it into parts like investing $100 per week so you can buy bitcoins at different prices to minimize your losses.  And if you invest the entire $1000 in one transaction, you will lose a lot if the price of Bitcoin goes down, and if the price goes up, you will gain more.
DCA strategy is mostly followed by small investors. But the big investors don't care about DCA. But DCA is a good strategy for investing in crypto. And people who are working or have low income but are interested in investing in crypto cannot invest huge amounts so even if they don't want to follow DCA automatically becomes DCA. Because most of them invest some amount after getting salary every month


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September 19, 2023, 04:16:08 PM
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DCA involves consistently investing smaller, equal amounts over time, as opposed to making large, irregular crypto purchases. Think of it as making payments for a product in installments, at regular intervals, until the total is paid off. When you regularly invest in your preferred cryptocurrencies, you automatically accumulate more assets over time, regardless of market fluctuations. This can help you grow your holdings and potentially reduce your overall average cost during market dips.
DCA is a great way to accumulate BTC, but it depends on how you sell your holdings and when you sell it. DCA is a simple thing. You put an exact amount of money (either it is a big amount or a small amount) after an exact amount of time. Could be days, weeks, or months depending on your budget and activity. You don't wait for the price to fall or grow. When the time comes, you just do it regardless of market conditions.

Even after doing this, sometimes the market will not be in our favor and we will be at a loss. This is the key point to notice. In a situation like this, either you can sell if you are in profit or you will have to be patience and wait for that time to come. Controlling emotions and taking the right decision at the right time is the key. Don't hold onto something when you could clearly make good use of it at that time. Learn to let go when it is needed. You may be in profits even before you reach your target. In that situation, you need to take profit and start a new journey.
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