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September 19, 2023, 07:47:25 AM
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Today I am here for some information about posts because few days back I translate @fillippone post into Urdu language, but sadly I fail to put this all-in-one post so just want to ask is there any restriction for the languages other than English for having words in one post.
Because I fail to put this all into one post, so I have to adjust second post for the completion of my post, hopefully this will give update about rules of forum about languages other than English.
Let's have a look same post from fillippone in English language fit into single post

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while when it come to Urdu After done his translation it need/required 2 posts in order to fit in here


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September 19, 2023, 07:49:38 AM
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There are characters limit, not words if I'm correct. And this limit is applied in all languages, not only English. I don't know the limit though, wasn't in need of such a topic in my bitcointalk journey lol.
Can you ensure the characters in both article?

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September 19, 2023, 08:10:15 AM
Last edit: September 19, 2023, 08:24:15 AM by shahzadafzal
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Yeah, that's what it is. Posts over 65535 bytes get cut off at 65535 bytes. If that makes the BBcode invalid in certain ways, then you get the INVALID BBCODE error.

Also, note that a byte is different from a character. Because SMF stores "special" characters in a particularly space-inefficient way, each Russian character uses about 6 bytes, and each line break also uses 6 bytes.

Yes there's a limit/post as per theymos its 65535 bytes (65,535 ASCII/English characters).  But when it comes to other languages like Arabic/Urdu it needs Unicode to save and size of it depends on the encoding for example:

UTF-16 - Each Character needs two-bytes
UTF-32 - Each Character needs four-bytes

I guess bitcointalk is using UTF-16 so the character limit for Urdu is 65535/2 ~ 32767 Characters in Unicode.

Edit: I believe it's UTF-32 which means 4-bytes/character, I tested it in a PM (assuming PM/Posts have same character limit) and I'm able to send a big message with mix Urdu/English characters and it automatically got trimmed at 21,799.

Not sure why Russian characters needs 6 bytes? I think it should also take 1-4 bytes only.

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September 19, 2023, 08:49:49 AM
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Because I fail to put this all into one post, so I have to adjust second post for the completion of my post, hopefully this will give update about rules of forum about languages other than English.
If you can't fit everything in one post, creating another post is not a problem. I do that all the time.

I don't think this forum rule applies if you've reached maximum post length:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

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September 19, 2023, 08:55:45 AM
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Since there's a limit to the characters that can be posted on a particular post, it is very important to know that there are other ways we could make things go more better and we achieve the same goal, you could noticed that in some threads, once a post is being made, they quickly go to the next post to make a reservation in other to make that appears the next page after the first one which could implies a continuation of the last post, we can also make a summary of the whole contents to make it fit in a single page.



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September 19, 2023, 10:17:02 AM
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There are characters limit, not words if I'm correct. And this limit is applied in all languages, not only English. I don't know the limit though, wasn't in need of such a topic in my bitcointalk journey lol.

Actually, I believe shahzadafzal is correct. It's not really a character limit but rather a byte limit. So, it really depends on the language you're using. For instance, you can fit a lot more characters in a post written in English (or some other Latin-based language) compared to a language that uses Unicode characters.

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Limits are in bytes like you can see in a guide of forum ad design. Byte is a common unit for limits in Bitcoin if I am right.

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September 19, 2023, 01:19:02 PM
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Not sure why Russian characters needs 6 bytes? I think it should also take 1-4 bytes only.
I remember this problem from 2018, and in some languages such as Roman, Greek, Hebrew, and Arabic, the number of words is less than the number of words in the English language, and the reason for this is that we have about 65,535 bytes limit per post (focus bytes, not words) in ASCII characters (completely compatible with the English language) each 128 characters are encoded using 1 Byte, but in some languages such as Arabic and Russian, where there are extra characters, which are expressed as 1920 characters, they are encoded using 2 Bytes, and thus the number of bytes consumed by characters in any local language becomes much higher than in the English language, and thus the number of characters in the English language more than other languages.

If your topic contains longer words, the words consume more letters and require more than one post.





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September 19, 2023, 01:58:09 PM
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I have barely experience the limitations of words or characters since our locally recognized language is english and in pidgin and from my positing so far I never witnessed that, but from what dunamisx said I think that could also be a better option, after posting a thread you can easily reply as reserved then whenever you complete your translation you can include it there as a continuation to what the previous post is say I think people will better understanding it that way.

Maybe alternatively you can invert them into doc and give it a number to upload them as img by then I believe they could all enter in single page instead of reserving a space.
Do you think about this @op and does it make sense to you as well?

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September 19, 2023, 02:13:38 PM
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Are you sure? For a long time I thought the limit was 2.5 MB

What dzungmobile quoted is about ad (banner) design, not forum posts. Posts cannot contain images unless they are hosted on third-party sites. And yes, they are limited to a maximum size of 2.5 MB.




Maybe alternatively you can invert them into doc and give it a number to upload them as img by then I believe they could all enter in single page instead of reserving a space.
Do you think about this @op and does it make sense to you as well?

Posting content as an image is not a good idea. It makes the content hard to access for some users (for example for users who rely on screen readers or inline translators) and is not search-engine-friendly. Text is much better for discussions and sharing information as it can be easily copied, quoted, or shared between platforms and different media.

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September 19, 2023, 03:35:50 PM
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Maybe alternatively you can invert them into doc and give it a number to upload them as img by then I believe they could all enter in single page instead of reserving a space.
Do you think about this @op and does it make sense to you as well?

Posting content as an image is not a good idea. It makes the content hard to access for some users (for example for users who rely on screen readers or inline translators) and is not search-engine-friendly. Text is much better for discussions and sharing information as it can be easily copied, quoted, or shared between platforms and different media.


I see now, that means posting in the first page and reserving the next spacing could be more ideal. Although I never thought of that.

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September 19, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
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Are you sure? For a long time I thought the limit was 2.5 MB
I used it as an example that it seems theymos or the forum software is keen on using bytes for limit in posts and ad banners.

About ad banners, it is limited in px too (not taller than 47px).
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It must be no more than 120px wide, 80px tall, and 100 KiB in size.

About images, you are correct, it is initially at 1.5MB, then increases to 2.5MB.
Images must be less than 1.5MB. Resize or compress your image.

OK, I increased it to 2.5.

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