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September 21, 2023, 12:36:19 PM
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When a hard fork is applied, the block size increases. When this occurs, the new block is larger than the previous block. The new blockchain will then reject it. Why? Because, as far as I can tell, the old block will stay valid on the original blockchain.

This also implies that the new block will be incompatible with the old one. Please tell me if I'm wrong, because the new blockchain has its own set of rules, right?

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September 21, 2023, 12:47:09 PM
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When a hard fork is applied, the block size increases. When this occurs, the new block is larger than the previous block. The new blockchain will then reject it. Why? Because, as far as I can tell, the old block will stay valid on the original blockchain.

This also implies that the new block will be incompatible with the old one. Please tell me if I'm wrong, because the new blockchain has its own set of rules, right?

hard forks can change different things.
the trick used recently is that nodes dont validate all the data they receive in new transactions. the new transaction formats produced now use a trick that old nodes should just treat a 'non standard' transaction(to old nodes) as valid without checking for signatures or security requirements. hense allowing extra junk data to be added without rejection

its security risks like this which allow validation by-passes that are a concern. when nodes are not ready to fully validate data and new data is allowed to appear in the blockchain without a consensus vote of majority. it puts the blockchain at risk

yes this trick makes it easy for core to implement changes without consent of the masses which means the can progress their development. but it allows malicious stuff to occur too.. which is more reason we should:
a. scrutinise, critique, review and point out devs failures more
b. not blindly concede that devs can/should abuse the trick so frivolously and unhindered.
c.we should get back to the principles of decentralisation where only well INDEPENDENTLY reviewed code that serves a good function for the masses gets the vote. whereby it makes devs actually think and care about development rather then throw in any cludge they like or are sponsored to add

i now await the usual centralist ass kisser to cry about how he admires cores administration and control and how he thinks anyone disagreeing should "f**k off"

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September 22, 2023, 02:01:43 AM
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where only well INDEPENDENTLY reviewed code that serves a good function for the masses gets the vote.

Who are these independent reviewers, then?  Are they entirely imaginary like every other stupid idea you've ever had?  You throw a shit-fit when anyone is paid by a company, so it sounds like you're once again asking for slave labour.  Not only does everyone have to obey the immortal word of FuhrerFranky, they have to do it for free.  

Any minorities you want to gas while you're at it, mein fuhrer?  You are Blockchain-Hitler.

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September 22, 2023, 10:08:29 AM
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Hard forks are a complex and often misleading subject. There's more to it than merely tweaking blockchain protocols. No. Its about who gets to control things. To answer your question, yes, older blocks do stay together. But the real problem is that these splits cause conflicts in the community. By pushing older nodes to the side, the impact of earlier participants is tried to be lessened. Its like saying, "What have you done in the past?" They are no longer important." This could be a plan by some powerful people to steer Bitcoin in the way they want.

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