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September 22, 2023, 05:25:13 PM
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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

Despite the charge to combat fake accounts, does it totally solve the problem of scammers still carrying on with their activities? No matter what fee they attach, scammers will still pay those fees to have access to a real account. Anyway, the purpose is not just to combat fake accounts or bots but also to generate more money for the company.

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I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

Even if they want to combat fake accounts, there are other ways to do it without charging users a fee. I quite don't like that idea. IMO, it's a good idea to want to fight against fake accounts, but the idea is just for their personal gain because they can still archive what they want without those fees attached.

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September 22, 2023, 07:42:27 PM
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I’m not a fan of Elon Musk. At first when Elon Musk bought the company X formerly known as Twitter, he promised its users free speech and less censorship. People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.


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September 22, 2023, 08:27:45 PM
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People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.

The fact that people believe Elon's words are just dumb. He might be one of the richest guy alive but he has no clue on how to run a social media platform properly. In a way, all that censorship that he has done is his own idea on how to combat bots plaguing the site so it actually works out in his favour. Anyway, its Elon so you can expect him to do something even dumber in a year or two such as moving X to an even secluded 'social' media platform that is only limited to everyone that buy its subscription

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September 23, 2023, 02:36:56 AM
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Yeah I also heard the news.

I like X a lot. damn, I like the old brand Twitter is already great why did Elon decide to change to X duhhhhhh. It has already been my main social media every day because the crypto news and memes are there.
A lot of anon fess that made me angry sad and laugh is from X   Grin whether globally or in Indonesia.

If you guys used WhatsApp a couple of years ago they actually charged a small fee for users before Facebook or Meta acquired the app. If they charge like really small fee I will have no problem example like a dollar a year  Grin

or maybe Mr. Elon wants his money back faster after acquiring the Twitter

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September 23, 2023, 02:53:42 AM
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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

Despite the charge to combat fake accounts, does it totally solve the problem of scammers still carrying on with their activities? No matter what fee they attach, scammers will still pay those fees to have access to a real account. Anyway, the purpose is not just to combat fake accounts or bots but also to generate more money for the company.

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I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

Even if they want to combat fake accounts, there are other ways to do it without charging users a fee. I quite don't like that idea. IMO, it's a good idea to want to fight against fake accounts, but the idea is just for their personal gain because they can still archive what they want without those fees attached.

I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.

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September 23, 2023, 05:46:41 AM
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I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.
Obviously any business owner wants to make money, as that is the whole reason businesses are created despite what their owners may try to make us believe, but this seems like the wrong move, how much Elon can earn by charging users to use X when there are free alternatives which will be more than happy to get those users to their platform? Now if that was all what he may lose it would not be so bad, but without those users how much money he will lose as other companies stop buying any ads on the X platform? So when I think about it this seems like a move that will make him to lose a lot of money.
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September 23, 2023, 07:00:36 AM
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My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

I have no idea what Elon Musk is doing to do with Twitter/X. He paid so much money for the company and now Zuckerberg us creating his own site from scratch. Asking for money from your customers while there is a free alternative sounds like a bad idea and could lead to many users abandoning the website. Already the whole idea of selling a blue checkmark for 8 USD made very cautious. I didn't buy it back then and I wouldn't buy it now. I am not getting any income X. That's why it's a No, I wouldn't pay Twitter/X, they already have so much access to my personal information which is likely being sold to 3rd parties. Why should I on top of that pay to the company. If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
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September 23, 2023, 08:58:30 AM
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If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
However, it's important to remember that the inhabitants of X may not always share the same habits as those on Facebook or Instagram. Each social media platform possesses its own unique advantages, which can be considered as the distinctive features of each social media company.

The call to collectively depart from X may not be entirely fitting either. X offers a broader market, and it is frequently utilized by top-tier celebrities to disseminate their updates. Are you certain you have no idols and wish to sever ties solely due to the associated costs of using X?

I don't take this too seriously, as I am only an infrequent X user. However, considering the multitude of businesses already established on the X platform, it suggests that not everyone will harbor resentment toward Elon Musk's decisions.
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September 23, 2023, 09:39:17 AM
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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

Yes, I will pay if Musk charges for a month to use X. As you say he said that he took this step just for the removal of bots and fake accounts dominancy. I appreciate his work because, in today's era, every social media platform is full of bots and fake accounts that cause serious issues.

As you all know X is used by every politician, influencer, crypto person, News channel, Every project and every section that may involve Govt or private sector use it. But at the same time, some fake bots are also performing their work which is spreading the wrong information.

Let's take Facebook or Instagram as an example in which every third person has a fake account that spy on you or spread some useless information. If something happens these bots or fake persons interpret the same thing but in different ways which causes conflict or dispute and guides you wrong.

I use X for the News related to my country's economy, the cryptocurrency world the new project that is coming, and the already existing projects if they have any updates. If he starts paying per month then it will minimize the fake news from spreading and at least we say that there is a platform that charges you but takes care of your security, and privacy. 
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September 23, 2023, 09:42:35 AM
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I have no idea what Elon Musk is doing to do with Twitter/X. He paid so much money for the company and now Zuckerberg us creating his own site from scratch. Asking for money from your customers while there is a free alternative sounds like a bad idea and could lead to many users abandoning the website. Already the whole idea of selling a blue checkmark for 8 USD made very cautious. I didn't buy it back then and I wouldn't buy it now. I am not getting any income X. That's why it's a No, I wouldn't pay Twitter/X, they already have so much access to my personal information which is likely being sold to 3rd parties. Why should I on top of that pay to the company. If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.

He's unwittingly trying really hard to get people to switch to Threads.

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September 23, 2023, 10:35:21 AM
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One thing Elon Musk has hacked is that "we cannot leave twitter or X." and thats the truth, it doesn't matter what your niche is in life; you simply cannot leave the X app and Musk is leveraging on that TRUTH.

Are you into politics?
Are you into crypto currency?
Are you into sports?
Are you into journalism?
Are you a health or sport science personnel?
Are you into movies?

X app is the place to be, and that's why i put it to you that if Elon Musk mandates a fee to use the app today, You would gladly pay for it. At the moment, subscribers posts and comments are given priority and advantage and there has been influx of subscribers too; do you think you can do without X if fee becomes mandatory?
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If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
However, it's important to remember that the inhabitants of X may not always share the same habits as those on Facebook or Instagram. Each social media platform possesses its own unique advantages, which can be considered as the distinctive features of each social media company.

The call to collectively depart from X may not be entirely fitting either. X offers a broader market, and it is frequently utilized by top-tier celebrities to disseminate their updates. Are you certain you have no idols and wish to sever ties solely due to the associated costs of using X?

I don't take this too seriously, as I am only an infrequent X user. However, considering the multitude of businesses already established on the X platform, it suggests that not everyone will harbor resentment toward Elon Musk's decisions.
I don't think anyone is bound to the Twitter app in as much as they love it, these days, so many other social media apps perform as much as desired to engage the public and a selected audience of ones niche.
If Elon is trying to make Twitter the holy grail of social media by imposing fees and charges or limiting customers from its service, they have no other option than to go elsewhere and am very sure more developers will come up with other better social or business apps to accommodate those who would be pushed off the social platform, Twitter.

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September 23, 2023, 09:22:50 PM
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For now I have assume that Musk is only trying to troll people around and won't actually implement a monthly price tag on the use of X/Twitter, because if he does that, it would likely translate onto the massive migration of users from Twitter/X to other alternatives, like Threads or whatever.

In the end, I trust the Elon is not that stupid to believe this is a good idea for his investment, if he does then he is either stupid or it has his plan all along to destroy Twitter from the beginning,for whatever reason.

Billionaires can be quite strange people, sometimes.

Anyways, I would not like to lose access to my personal account.  Sad

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September 23, 2023, 09:44:40 PM
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Bro is doing everything in his power to push people to threads and mastodon lol.

Never been much of an Elon fan since day one. His cameo on Rick and Morty’s weak as hell too. There’s nothing to like about the guy really. He’s stupid as hell, insecure as fuck, and everytime someone tells him otherwise he places his anger and frustration on Twitter. I hope he loses all the money he used to buy that platform cause goddamn that would be funny.

Actually charging people to access a one-free social media application cause you’re not turning profits as much as you hoped you would even after charging people 8 bucks for a glorified badge? Now that’s just new levels of stupid right there.
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People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.

The fact that people believe Elon's words are just dumb. He might be one of the richest guy alive but he has no clue on how to run a social media platform properly. In a way, all that censorship that he has done is his own idea on how to combat bots plaguing the site so it actually works out in his favour. Anyway, its Elon so you can expect him to do something even dumber in a year or two such as moving X to an even secluded 'social' media platform that is only limited to everyone that buy its subscription
People do believe what Elon words, he is a very influential. Remember when Elon Musk was pushing Tron as the next big cryptocurrency, he even went as far as to criticize bitcoin and tag bitcoin as a source of environmental pollution. He said all this garbage just so he could get his followers to dump bitcoin and buy Tron. Elon Musk has proven to be selfish person whose words should be taken with a pinch of salt. Whatever he has in store for his new found company, I really don’t care.

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I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.
Obviously any business owner wants to make money, as that is the whole reason businesses are created despite what their owners may try to make us believe, but this seems like the wrong move, how much Elon can earn by charging users to use X when there are free alternatives which will be more than happy to get those users to their platform? Now if that was all what he may lose it would not be so bad, but without those users how much money he will lose as other companies stop buying any ads on the X platform? So when I think about it this seems like a move that will make him to lose a lot of money.

We can all easily think of it, people leaving Twitter and finding an alternative if Twitter actually charged all users. I think Elon is not stupid enough to not think about this issue when making the decision to charge fees to all users. But why he still makes that bold decision is something we need to think about, he always has eccentric thoughts compared to normal people.

Moreover, what I'm thinking is if we leave Twitter then what will be our next choice, Threads is too bad for us to use it. Just like the telegram application, everyone thinks that this is the biggest scam space and should stay away from them, but until now, this is still the most popular messaging social network. But so far, there has been no official announcement from Twitter, right? Because I have not received any notification about this fee.

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The thing is that TwiteX has been loosing money all over because it simply does not find the way to monetize since long long ago. Elon wants to send the company into the green but also is aware of a very high regulatory and political risk because, just like it happened with facebook, it is just too easy to influence democracies and these are going to defend themselves... perhaps by shutting it down or making aggressive legislation.

This move is trying, poorly, to solve these two problems.

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I am not willing to pay it because this is not the way it was from the beginning plus it was purely a social media platform open to whole world. Now I have to pay to put my thoughts on social media? I would simply choose other platforms and be happy about it.

I am not sure if you guys know this but WhatsApp used to be paid in earlier days and they made this transition out of nowhere. Soon, they started loosing the user base at an alarming rate and from then onward nearly about 2013-14 they switched back to free version to everyone. This brought back most of the users along with the new ones.

Twitter on the other hand will lose a lot and I hardly think Elon will look forward to Switch back if they lose users because they are more or less trying our business model for profits.
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September 25, 2023, 09:43:31 AM
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First of all, Elon said that he is planning to charge people for using Twitter, and people already started to raise panic. Second, a lot of people have accounts, but never use them. However, they complain about Elons plans and claim that "they wont use, what they have never used". Third, it is normal to pay for service you use. No one promised that Twitter is always going to be free. Notice that Twitter, compared to other social media platforms, does not flash with ads like Christmas tree with lights. Want free Twitter, accept the fact to see banners and ads all the time.
But Twitter is full of ads, I'm not sure if you noticed but in your feed, you will see a lot of tweets that are advertising which are even tagged as advertisements, so is the trending list which goes without a day of an advertisement taking the top spot. People are not generally complaining about the ads, though it is normal to see that nowadays, especially in social media platforms, what users are complaining about is how Twitter/X will be charging anyone who wants to use the platform even on its most basic features which no other social media platform has done before (at least not one that have millions of users). I'm not sure if you understood OP's post, it is not about paying from a premium experience, it is about generally using the platform with ads that is currently fee.

Perhaps I dont understand OP post, but I see nothing bad in charging money for service you provide. Lets say those 17 years were sort of a trial period. Now it is over. Besides, Elon also mentioned that he plans to turn Twitter into more than just a place to write few words, as he plans to add a wallet feature or a kind of payment system into Twitter. And who is complaining about "potential twitter usage fee" ? People who tweet "today I ate an apple" and accounts like this? People are to much used to getting a lot for free.

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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
I think I have to see first what the condition is. if it just pays for Elon Musk profit alone without any good reason it's better to leave it. but from what I hear they want to get rid of Twitter bots their only solution is to make it pay. but if it pays a large amount I won't pay it. However, social media should be used for free.

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