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September 19, 2023, 03:00:08 PM
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[1] Elon Musk plans to charge users a monthly fee to access X
[2] Elon Musk says he will start charging people to use X-Twitter

It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

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September 19, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
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X has been my best social media because it is the place I mostly visit when it comes to getting information about cryptocurrencies, but if I see this change and money is required to use Twitter, I am not affected because my account on X is not active at all. All I can just do is to click on a link to visit what I want to visit.

This may open ways for competitors.

If no one can be able to access the site unless payment is made, I will not use Twitter anymore.

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September 19, 2023, 03:30:35 PM
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Are you willing to pay for X?
No. Don't use it and never will. It's pathetic to see a rich guy want the little money I have.

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September 19, 2023, 03:38:21 PM
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 Introducing a fee, no matter how small, indeed creates a barrier to entry, which could potentially limit the diverse user base that the platform currently enjoys. It indeed feels somewhat unfair to suddenly have to pay for a service that has been free for so long, especially when other platforms continue to offer free access. while I do respect the necessity for platforms to explore different revenue streams, this move seems like it might not be in the best interest of the broader user community. It seems more like a gatekeeping tactic than a genuine effort to improve the user experience.
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September 19, 2023, 03:45:04 PM
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Elon Musk madness would backfire on him, he never realized that his plan to charge X users a monthly fee would be exploited by his competitors to bring down X. Business competitors will create applications that are almost the same as X to attract all X users to switch to their product. Of course users will slowly leave X due to the greed of Elon Musk who has changed Twitter's identity and wants to charge them a monthly fee. If Elon Musk's plan really goes through, I'll say goodbye to Twitter or X.

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September 19, 2023, 03:54:35 PM
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Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.

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September 19, 2023, 04:04:15 PM
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When Musk finally took over Twitter there was a lot of criticism and I preferred to wait and see what he did because a guy who has amassed that much net worth is no fool and it was clear he had a plan. But smart and rich people also make mistakes sometimes and right now I'm getting the impression that they are making mistakes, and even more with the idea of charging for the accounts.

Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.

We will have to see how this affects the overall picture. If there is another platform that does not charge and takes away a lot of X users, it will also take away crypto enthusiasts who do not mind paying a fee.

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September 19, 2023, 04:04:38 PM
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I've been on Twitter since way back in April 2011, and I've gotta say, I've had a good time there. I love the stuff I find, and it's where I stay updated on what's happening. But the latest news about them thinking of charging a monthly fee has me feeling pretty bummed.

Twitter is like my main squeeze in the social media world. I mean, aside from some forums and Telegram, it's the place I hang out online. I've met friends, laughed at memes, and had some cool conversations.

But here's the thing – if Twitter starts asking for cash to use it, I might have to hit the eject button. I get they need to make money, but it could mess up what's great about Twitter. It's open to everyone, and that's awesome. Charging money might shut some people out, and that's not cool.

So, if they really go through with this fee thing, I'll have some thinking to do. I mean, I love Twitter, but I also love not spending extra money on social media. We'll see how it goes, but I really hope they don't push me to say goodbye to my Twitter crew.

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September 19, 2023, 04:05:53 PM
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I see that many of my friends have responded kindly to paying $8, so I do not think that the paid subscriptions will stop, but the free options will be fewer and fewer, especially if services such as audio and video calls and paid meeting and chat options are launched, as is the option with the Zoom.

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September 19, 2023, 04:16:32 PM
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Some freeloaders are not going to like this for sure but people who actually uses X for business or marketing may actually appreciate this if it gets implemented. It's not going to prevent the trolls or bots from opening multiple accounts but the increase in likelihood that they'll be dealing with real accounts is attractive. It's not easy to build followers or subscribers in a new platform and it could be more costly than the monthly fee. There's also no guarantee that the free apps won't charge in the future.

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September 19, 2023, 04:31:28 PM
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Of course Twitter before Elon Musk was free and you have the freedom to explore the platform without any payment. Now Twitter became X if the case you'll have to subscribe first for you to access other features that were free before, I would not pay for it as I would find other apps much more convenient without fees. But I think those monetizing is mostly from people who us Twitter or X as their money sources just like advertisement, artist, news and etc as long you could make money from it. So it's like a fee as they benefit from X, X would also benefit from them. Cause for sure even the users complain, they have no choice but to pay cause that's where they could get money.

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I don't think he is going to implement such a fee for every user because he already knows what the blue tick mark subscription fee backfired, so it is just speculation on the market or if he is really going to implement then imagine this would be the revolution in the social media platform and there is no surprise if other platforms follow the same cause every platform is filled with bots and multiple accounts and already Instagram implemented one-time fee for verified.









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I thank God that I am not using Twitter account again. I open the account when I join the Unijoin campaign and I used bitcoin logo as the avatar and I made a retweet on the Unijoin tweet and they banned me and sent me an email that I had violated their terms and conditions so I should appeal which I did and they replied me that they cannot unbanned the account and I cannot open new account so I also shun them.

And for the X fee. It is not ethical. They will loss users of Twitter because not everyone use Twitter to make money and for those who are just using it to chat and communicating will drop Twitter for a other nice Social Media that treat users nice.









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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
The social media "Twitter" which has now changed its name to "X" is the leading social media and reading media because it can provide the latest information regarding crypto developments, market developments and other important things. And I really regret what is happening with the X application currently, where we APK X users have to pay a certain amount of money to be able to join the social media. And it is not impossible that if X decides to apply tariffs to its users, sooner or later the users of the X application will leave this social media and switch to other social media. And it is also not impossible that application X will have new competitors who can provide free services and can provide the information we need.

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Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.

We will have to see how this affects the overall picture. If there is another platform that does not charge and takes away a lot of X users, it will also take away crypto enthusiasts who do not mind paying a fee.

Yeah new platform will take away a portion of the user from the current one but it will not be the same as twitter. Some members will continue using the old one and only cost-sensitive user will shift their focus on the new platform. I am not so sure but thread can be a good alternative. It suppose to be a competitor of twitter and this can be an opportunity for the thread team to attract users from twitter. May be they can offer something unique for users who wants to shift from twitter to thread. Something like new sim company who offers their customers the same old number if they change their old operator.

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If X starts Charing money to access the platform it's going down to drain. No matter how great it is and no matter how great exposure it gives to you, it's a social media at the end of the day. So it doesn't bring any value addition to your life. It doesn't have such things which will make you a better professional or human being. So it's a simple social media.

I will personally be more than willing to spend money for Linkedin, but I won't spend a dime to access X. Linkedin gives me enormous library of courses which will help me to learn, X won't do that. Musk will ruin this entire platform by charging money.

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Depends on how much coins he is going to giveaway to those active users. Not really sure if he would do this but I'm also not an active Twitter user. But no matter what Elon is doing with his X, it's his business. He could burn it to the ground yet he is still one of the richest in the world.

He will not see many users if he does this though. But seeing there are still a lot of users playing for that blue check. I guess he may still be pushing to the limits. With election time, it's gonna be timely and people may still pay just so they could voice out.

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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

It's honestly astounding to watch the self centered ego of Musk and the implosion of wealth he has created in his purchase of Twitter, plus it's subsequent disastrous steps. He seems to see it as irreplaceable, but many platforms have fallen in the past, only to be replaced by others and Twitter does not have any special intellectual property that would prevent this. The very fact that he renamed it "X" which can be construed as super negative, is indicative that he just wanted to use the domain and is literally trying to smash Twitter into the mold that he wants to create. He's going against so many parts that made Twitter what it is today and charging users will be the final nail in the coffin, because people simply won't tolerate paying for a social network when they can use free alternatives that have been able to monetize effectively and not destroy advertiser relationships.

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As we have already seen with X Premium, bots have had no issues creating verified accounts. Spam and scams are still proliferating the platform. It seems to be worse than ever with AI tools being easily accessible. Charging people a fee to use the site won't do anything to stop this problem and just seems like a desperate attempt to turn a profit. Fortunately for Musk, Twitter has the early mover advantage and it's competitors like Bluesky and Threads are still in a fledgling state and have not been able to fully capitalize on Musk damaging Twitter's reputation.

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[1] Elon Musk plans to charge users a monthly fee to access X
[2] Elon Musk says he will start charging people to use X-Twitter

It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
Elon would really be definitely be making up his own rules which charging up its users or having those options on upgrading on having that blue check but if these things are just that optional then it would really be just that fine but if it turns out to be mandatory then i would really be definitely be able to say that people would flock out into  this platform and would really be going into those places which are actually free but i highly doubt that Elon would really be doing this knowing that it would really be bringing out that huge impact to his platform which it would really be bringing out that huge impact on the company that he bought.
Well,people do really have choices or options whether they would really be that staying with X or not because we do have our own free will on what are the things that we must do and all would really be
in accordance with our preference.

We know that Twitter is really that free of charge or doesnt have that blue checkmark before and now its been applying some additions which its an option and a bit more centralized knowing that
locking and banning out some accounts which arent that legit like scam projects or something like that is really that considerable but it wont really be just that perfect i must say but its still a good
gesture but depending on the precision about those decision.It is really that more centralized.

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The tabloids really enjoy writing these terrible articles based on an ambiguous comment Musk made in an hour long interview with Benjamin Netanyahu...

He did not specify what this fee would be nor did he specify that every X user would be required to pay for it. Seemed like an off the cuff comment, and news organizations are running with it.

More likely to me he might introduce a lower subscription tier than the one he already offers and may limit what the "free" version of X offers. I doubt he's considering a subscription only model for all users of the site.
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Looks like Elon Musk is putting X on the verge of extinction 🤭 by doing this, because a lot of enthusiastic Twitter users have either left the platform or will then leave once he starts charging everyone to use it. However, I'd first see the whole scenario that takes place once he adds up a charge to it but till I don't know what will be the charge (and is it going to be per IP address, household, etc. and if he is going to let one person have one account only?) I don't think that discussing this has got any point. Let us wait for him to reveal his plans before coming to a conclusion.
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Its users are already its products and he wants to charge them? All I can say is that Elon's management of Twitter(X) after acquiring it is sort of showing that he's f**kin' it up. If it's just about the bots and fake accounts, there's a certain algorithm that he can just ask to do from his developers. I wonder why he's trolling at the next level because he's aware that if he's going to do it then that's the final moments of his platform. The investment that he's put into it will never be worth it but then, from the very start before acquiring it. He has expressed how he's free to change everything about it and he did. I guess that he just can afford to lose this platform as it might lose a lot of its users upon activating what he said about charging everyone. No one would like to use it for a fee when they can just go and use other social media platforms.

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Looks like Elon Musk is putting X on the verge of extinction 🤭 by doing this, because a lot of enthusiastic Twitter users have either left the platform or will then leave once he starts charging everyone to use it. However, I'd first see the whole scenario that takes place once he adds up a charge to it but till I don't know what will be the charge (and is it going to be per IP address, household, etc. and if he is going to let one person have one account only?) I don't think that discussing this has got any point. Let us wait for him to reveal his plans before coming to a conclusion.

Definitely, he will lose a lot of subscribers here because not many can afford to pay monthly, even if it is cheap.
People are used to having social media apps for free. Just think of FB charging its users monthly fee, and for sure, the number will drop drastically.
Well, that's his move towards the elimination of bots or fake accounts. But he needs to consider those legit users who can't afford such fees.
We will know what will happen to twitter just after a month of implementation. That's his company so he has all the prerogative to do what he thinks is right for his business.
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He wont charge everyone to use, who else has done that.  Its not a model that really exists on the internet especially and also I believe its a condition of a search engine to appear in results you cannot be a completely closed site.  The closest I see is some of the newspapers but even they release content in some part to other sites readable by all and often you have a reading limit or similar.   He would lose more then he gains by excluding the completely casual user, they are majority of users for most sites is my take.     From that source which you do keep open, thats how you gain the premium route for users to address the widest possible readership with their superior access on your site.

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So he basically said, "We can't handle the bots cause I kicked out my entire software engineer team, so here, you guys need to pay instead"? While I do know that he probably wouldn't charge everyone, it's still a hit to most people considering that they're inviting restrictions to a platform that's supposedly for letting people have the latest news and whatnot towards their followers group. I mean he already added that premium-based bs that they have right now, I reckon that he should've just designed it a lot better than adding more instead. Kind of disappointing since I imagine this kind of update would destroy a lot of free-lancers visibility, since I think that's one of the major things Elon would hit when considering subscriptions.

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basically in my opinion paying for social media platform is simply too much, the platform itself didn't even generate the content themselves, people are the ones that make all the content yet they have the guts to charge people for contributing i think its just silly flaw of logic that this change brought upon.
I just don't tolerate to pay for social media that quite literally is useless, not to mention that there are many different platforms out there that willing to become replacement of twitter.
charging for blue or gold tick badge is fine, but if charging just for reading other people tweets thats simply gone too far and I will quite literally leave the second they charge people for it.

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Whether you use it or not, X will still work according to the plan they set out, eliminating some users who do not trust it. I think that is also the strategy that Elon Musk wants for this social network. In fact, what I've observed in the past few months is that X is very popular, perhaps partly due to the creator compensation program. Although there are quality issues with the content, I personally still like to use it a lot to follow updates from the market as well as some news that is not heavily censored on the platform.









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September 20, 2023, 03:23:27 AM
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Yes, Elon Musk indirectly asked X users to leave the platform formerly known as Twitter. EM's plan which wants to charge a monthly fee is very unreasonable, he should thank all X users who have contributed to growing the platform instead of asking for a monthly fee which charges X users. EM has been too authoritarian since successfully acquiring X, previously he had changed the name and logo of Twitter which is now known as X, then he goes even further by charging user X a monthly fee.

I don't care about EM policies, if I can't access X before making a payment, I'll say goodbye to X.

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I'm not willing to pay for X and if that means I don't get to use the platform.
Besides, I don't use social media very often and I'm not a fan of social media, so if Elon decides later, that's fine.
There are still many other social media services that can be a place for people to communicate, share and other things and I don't think it's a problem if they have to leave X unless they can earn income from X and are willing to pay the subscription fee so they can continue using X's services.
I think in the future, there will be other people who will create services like X that might be even better and we know that Mark has already created Threads that are similar to
This will likely be an ongoing war between Elon and Mark.

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I'm not willing to pay for X and if that means I don't get to use the platform.
Besides, I don't use social media very often and I'm not a fan of social media, so if Elon decides later, that's fine.
There are still many other social media services that can be a place for people to communicate, share and other things and I don't think it's a problem if they have to leave X unless they can earn income from X and are willing to pay the subscription fee so they can continue using X's services.
I think in the future, there will be other people who will create services like X that might be even better and we know that Mark has already created Threads that are similar to
This will likely be an ongoing war between Elon and Mark.
I am not a fan of social media either but this has to be a huge mistake, the biggest source of income social media websites have comes from advertising, and advertisers are only willing to pay a lot of money for their ads to be shown in a platform if it has a lot of users they can sell their products to, if Elon starts to charge money in order to use X I am sure many people will abandon X for good, and in that case the revenue that is generated by ads will drop significantly as well.
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No matter if this is a cent I won't be paying for it. Oh I forgot rarely use Twitter only when I get some information about some crypto. This will cost a lot for sure only those die-hard fans of X will be paying on it to access their accounts and mostly those influencers. I am into other social media  and that is where I build my profile. It is just sad that people who build their profiles, added their important photos will be forced to pay because they can't access their accounts anymore.

This would be the downfall of X for sure unless they are features that we get money for when we pay them money. But let's see if this is implemented or not.
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Are you willing to pay for X?
No. Don't use it and never will. It's pathetic to see a rich guy want the little money I have.

--Knight Hider
Well, I think it's the little money you have that these guys are more interested in that's why when they make a product, they just don't do it for the rich alone to access, but the poor as well.
Elon has run out of ideas to run the company and as such is doing everything to keep it afloat but the funny thing is that when you start unnecessarily "extorting" money from peeps, they begin to see why some things are marked "needs" and some "wants" and then start classifying them.
 Although the plan to charge users is for X premium and still just in it's infancy and hasn't been firmed up yet, I just feel he'd lose more users. According to data, X( Twitter) traffic has steadily declined since January and as of June, it fell 5.8%.

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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?


X (formerly twitter) has been my favorite platform ever since because it helped to be updated in current events and trends. In simpler words, it allows me to become globally conscious by staying updated in real-time events worldwide. It also allows me to practice my freedom of expression through participating in different topics and discussions. Moreover, of all the different social media platforms, I find X (twitter) as the most reliable source of information because fake news and false information are rampant on the other platforms.

As much as I want to continually use the platform, I am not willing to pay for this because it ruins the true essence of the platform. If ever it requires users fee on the future, then it will not become available and accessible for all. Thus, it destroys connectivity and breaks social awareness. Some are already paying to obtain the blue verified badge on X (twitter) and I think this should be enough. But still, I cannot do anything about it and that is their decision to make.



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Whether you use it or not, X will still work according to the plan they set out, eliminating some users who do not trust it. I think that is also the strategy that Elon Musk wants for this social network. In fact, what I've observed in the past few months is that X is very popular, perhaps partly due to the creator compensation program. Although there are quality issues with the content, I personally still like to use it a lot to follow updates from the market as well as some news that is not heavily censored on the platform.
Yeah you could be right but if 80% of there user base aren't paying and would choose a different platform that would probably offer the same thing but for free, I don't think that we will see X become a profitable platform for Musk. I don't have any ties or attachment to X or any creators that's famous in that platform so I am utterly pessimistic that putting a price on X would a good thing, they kind of like shooting themselves on the foot here although I'm not an expert in human behavior so I might be wrong and the need for clout exceeds the downside of using X.
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It's obvious people will quit if Elon Musk is really want to launch this shitty idea.

Most of people who're active in social medias are middle low or low class and they can't afford to spend more money just to access a site, similar like how many people looking a crack version of Windows and Microsoft software. On the other side middle upper and upper class will not get a lot likes due to traffic keep decreasing, what's the point to play in a quiet social medias?

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Yes, Elon Musk indirectly asked X users to leave the platform formerly known as Twitter. EM's plan which wants to charge a monthly fee is very unreasonable, he should thank all X users who have contributed to growing the platform instead of asking for a monthly fee which charges X users. EM has been too authoritarian since successfully acquiring X, previously he had changed the name and logo of Twitter which is now known as X, then he goes even further by charging user X a monthly fee.

I don't care about EM policies, if I can't access X before making a payment, I'll say goodbye to X.


I think you will always be able to access X, but if Elon Mask really charges users for using his platform, you will be able to tweet only after payment. Reading is free, post for fee. Indeed a lot of people would leave platform, but corporations definitely gonna stay. However, still a lot of people would use X. Just think how many people pay for different subscription, but barely use platforms. A lot of people have Netflix subscription, while a lot of its content can be found for free in the internet. Pay for Spotify, while they can listen same music on YouTube. And there are more examples. We are living in subscription era. So one more subscription would not make a huge difference.

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I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago. My privacy is important to me, and even as the first account owner, I did not provide my real data, especially since I would not do this when Elon Musk is so insistent on using such a feature.
Besides, I don't see the point in engaging in conversation on Twitter because Twitter is becoming a platform infested with scammers who regularly spread fake news, and I'm not going to pay for it.

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Thank you for sharing this, I've been ignoring a lot of posts regarding X (formerly Twitter) as they are all the same statements that question the changes of the platform and just how bad Elon Musk is doing, and I have certainly grown tired of everyone's debate regarding this as I know for myself I will still be using the platform then. However, with this news, although I spend almost every day checking tweets (is this what we still call it?) and posting my own tweets I'll have to say goodbye to the platform now if this is to actually happen. X has not given me any income or opportunities to earn so I do not see a reason as to why I need to pay to use it when there are alternative platforms that I can use for free that have the same (and honestly better) features. My time using Twitter (despite the bugs and bots) was fun but not to the extent that I will spend my hard-earned money, no matter how little, just to use it.

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I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I deleted my account as soon as the new owner started applying some kind of absolute freedom of expression, that is, returning banned profiles to people who called for violence, denied the Holocaust or in any other way went against common sense or historical facts. I have nothing against people using any social network, but I've done the same as millions before or after me and I don't miss tweeting one bit.



As for paying for a service, I think it makes sense, because the world is just becoming that way - free stuff will just become a thing of the past, whether someone likes it or not.
The main users of X are from countries such as the USA, Japan and the UK. They can easily pay for a subscription because it will be invisible to their wallets. Next in terms of the number of users are countries such as Brazil, India, and Indonesia. For users from these poor countries, any payment matters, even a small one of $5 per month. Once the fee is introduced, most users from these countries will stop using X forever.

Of course, it is important for any company to generate profits to the detriment of the interests of users. On the other hand, this can help cut off a large number of bots that clutter up my notifications.

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No! I am not paying anything that has no return of income or benefits of course. I was inactive as well so if it really happen that they will implement a charge then good for them. 😅 Way back in 2017, when I was active in bounty hunting, Twitter campaign could make me a few dollars in a week but now even if they take it down there is nothing for me to worry about.



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I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

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A dead development on arrival, sometimes you need to calm down and enjoy what life brings to the table but I think Elon Musk is overdoing his ambition on Twitter, no doubt that he is trying to recoup the investment capital but charging people to use X is ridiculous and greed. If he plan to do that, he will not only lose the bot's activities but he will also lose ordinary users that do their comment and read their timeline, how can people be paying to verify the account and that is not enough, he can do better.  Undecided

A months now, bloggers and content creators have started to earn money from the platform and I believe nobody did or asked him to implement it, if he really cared about revenue that much, he shouldn't have implemented it in the first place because, with the amount he pay bi-weekly to users on that platform, if ordinary users are to minor fees, it will exceed what they will earn from the micro-blogging platform because I strongly believe that half of users live for alternative, Meta Thread platform is even waiting for him to make mistake in order to steal all his customers to the platform.

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No! I am not paying anything that has no return of income or benefits of course. I was inactive as well so if it really happen that they will implement a charge then good for them. 😅 Way back in 2017, when I was active in bounty hunting, Twitter campaign could make me a few dollars in a week but now even if they take it down there is nothing for me to worry about.
I am not going to pay as well but it's been a long time since I was active there and I don't use it anymore.
Elon is crazy. Even anything that he thinks of, he's speaking on it vulgarly without thinking. He's successful and one of the richest person on Earth but why he's acting like childish at most times?
If he pushes this thing, we might see some other platform that will also have its own way to attract users and might even incentivize the posts there and will allow people to instead of them earning from people.


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Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.

Yes, cryptocurrency projects build communities on twitter and the crypto traffic on the platform is increasing. Ever since Elon started billing people for blue tick and paying influencers for ad revenue. I knew he'll run out of funding or maintenance of such payments. I've not been active on twitter, but the platform is no longer fun, low quality and non educative contents keep popping up on my timeline. Now, asking every user to pay for using twitter will definitely add to the number of people that'll leave the platform. Elon is not the best person to manage twitter. He runs it for his personal advantage alone. The money he spent on buying the platform, he wants to triple it real quick. It's actually a bad moment for twitter users and those who use the platform for marketing purposes. Personally, I can't pay to use twitter, there are other social media platforms where I can promote products or pay for ads.  One good thing with Musk is that he knows publicity a lot, he gets too many attention with twitter, anytime he changes or talks about making new rules. 

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Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.

Yes, cryptocurrency projects build communities on twitter and the crypto traffic on the platform is increasing. Ever since Elon started billing people for blue tick and paying influencers for ad revenue. I knew he'll run out of funding or maintenance of such payments. I've not been active on twitter, but the platform is no longer fun, low quality and non educative contents keep popping up on my timeline. Now, asking every user to pay for using twitter will definitely add to the number of people that'll leave the platform. Elon is not the best person to manage twitter. He runs it for his personal advantage alone. The money he spent on buying the platform, he wants to triple it real quick. It's actually a bad moment for twitter users and those who use the platform for marketing purposes. Personally, I can't pay to use twitter, there are other social media platforms where I can promote products or pay for ads.  One good thing with Musk is that he knows publicity a lot, he gets too many attention with twitter, anytime he changes or talks about making new rules. 

Elon is a shrewd businessman. As he has mentioned before, he wants Twitter to be an open source of free speech. He wants to reduce the moderation activity on that platform and wants to make some changes to its algorithm to reduce bot accounts. Many people believe that this will just increase the spread of hate and misinformation on that platform.

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My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

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By adopting this position, you confirm the mismanagement of the platform and its inability to overcome its crises. Of course, the main culprit is Elon Musk himself, who continues to interfere in the platform’s policies even after the appointment of a new CEO for the company.
The platform claims to fight fake accounts by imposing fees on all accounts that want to continue using the platform, but everyone knows the financial crisis that Twitter is going through and that it needs additional resources.
It is likely that this step will fail to generate revenue for the company because users will prefer to use alternatives such as Facebook, which still provides most of the main services for free.
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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

We need to see how its gonna work. It may turn out that switching to paid only model will be a be good for crypto.

First. Twitter is a shithole with insane amount of spam / shill accounts or just bots that never been used by the human at all. This is how 95% of crypto related accounts looks like. It is wrong and something have to be done to make the platform usable  for the normal people.

Second. It would be a nice move if Elon Musk adds an option to pay subscription in crypto and it seems like this is actually going to happen.

Third. Paid subscription will make it expensive to run bot farms which also means that crypto airdrops will have to pay more for twitter tasks which may help you to monetize your own account. It may happen that this subscription may get paid off by the few twitter bounties.
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We need to see how its gonna work. It may turn out that switching to paid only model will be a be good for crypto.

First. Twitter is a shithole with insane amount of spam / shill accounts or just bots that never been used by the human at all. This is how 95% of crypto related accounts looks like. It is wrong and something have to be done to make the platform usable  for the normal people.

Second. It would be a nice move if Elon Musk adds an option to pay subscription in crypto and it seems like this is actually going to happen.

Third. Paid subscription will make it expensive to run bot farms which also means that crypto airdrops will have to pay more for twitter tasks which may help you to monetize your own account. It may happen that this subscription may get paid off by the few twitter bounties.

Yes, let's hope Elon can help maximize the spread of cryptocurrencies especially in the upcoming soon to be alt season. X is the unknown. X is an alternative future. Subscription is a scourge for bots. And it will be difficult for botmasters to solve it. Elon is an experienced strategist, and his spontaneous decisions can be very important.
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As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
This idea from Elon Musk is not a welcome development at all, because if Twitter is trying to introduce a subscription package, it mustn't have to be compulsory for all users because if I can remember, YouTube also has a subscription package, whereby if subscribe, you stand the chance of watching endless videos without viewing ads while watching your favorite YouTube video, which is what Twitter should have implement, and not making it compulsory for everybody, as that is likely to drive many persons away from Twitter to an alternative free site.

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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
X is one of the social media platforms that I like and this is where I have fun and surfing but indeed now many different from X that makes me less comfortable and make my specialization of X slightly reduced. Honestly, I want the old Twitter where we weren't limited in carrying out activities there, but after previously there were restrictions on tweeting, now there are some new rules where we have to pay if we really want to stay there.

As a social media fan, I am clearly disturbed and it is possible that if something like this happens then I will leave X because I am not willing to pay Elon the monthly cost of living there. because in the end the focus of social media is on XNow it is tainted with several restrictions that we should be free to socialize within.
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September 21, 2023, 03:26:28 AM
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Whether you use it or not, X will still work according to the plan they set out, eliminating some users who do not trust it. I think that is also the strategy that Elon Musk wants for this social network. In fact, what I've observed in the past few months is that X is very popular, perhaps partly due to the creator compensation program. Although there are quality issues with the content, I personally still like to use it a lot to follow updates from the market as well as some news that is not heavily censored on the platform.
Yeah you could be right but if 80% of there user base aren't paying and would choose a different platform that would probably offer the same thing but for free, I don't think that we will see X become a profitable platform for Musk. I don't have any ties or attachment to X or any creators that's famous in that platform so I am utterly pessimistic that putting a price on X would a good thing, they kind of like shooting themselves on the foot here although I'm not an expert in human behavior so I might be wrong and the need for clout exceeds the downside of using X.
We are misunderstanding the story about fees for using its platform, I don't understand too much about how it works in different regions but as my current understanding of it verifies accounts will have to be pay the fee, but otherwise at a basic level of use we can still use everything normally without any restrictions. The problem here is that there are many social networking platforms to choose from and you may like it or not, even though I'm not a regular user of social networks like me, I don't want to deny the influence that X having.









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September 21, 2023, 07:07:32 AM
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I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I deleted my account as soon as the new owner started applying some kind of absolute freedom of expression, that is, returning banned profiles to people who called for violence, denied the Holocaust or in any other way went against common sense or historical facts. I have nothing against people using any social network, but I've done the same as millions before or after me and I don't miss tweeting one bit.



As for paying for a service, I think it makes sense, because the world is just becoming that way - free stuff will just become a thing of the past, whether someone likes it or not.
The main users of X are from countries such as the USA, Japan and the UK. They can easily pay for a subscription because it will be invisible to their wallets. Next in terms of the number of users are countries such as Brazil, India, and Indonesia. For users from these poor countries, any payment matters, even a small one of $5 per month. Once the fee is introduced, most users from these countries will stop using X forever.

Of course, it is important for any company to generate profits to the detriment of the interests of users. On the other hand, this can help cut off a large number of bots that clutter up my notifications.

Social media is free because when you register you agree to allow them to harvest your data which is sold to advertisers who will profile you based on your behavior and interests. Their is no reason for anyone to pay a fee when you literally are the product. When a company starts nickel and diming users it is an admission of failure. Instead of fixing the problems which caused advertisers to leave, the cost of Elon’s incompetence is being passed on to users of their platform.

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September 21, 2023, 07:29:56 AM
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People might always view this decision negatively, but considering the potential impact, at least there won't be spam accounts and bots roaming around Twitter anymore. This elevates the overall quality of content, and most importantly, it's human-generated. I'm someone who values quality over quantity, so if it means paying a small fee, it might be the best way to filter out the noise.

Monthly payments can certainly be a burden, but a one-time payment with pricing adjusted based on each country's economy might make more sense.

X is also rumored to become a messaging service that allows video calls, similar to WeChat. However, there's currently no likelihood for any app to compete with WhatsApp and Telegram. The arrival of new competitors will undoubtedly make the services even more enjoyable, won't it?
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Currently Twitter (X) also provides the option to pay a premium subscription fee or something similar which opens up certain restrictions to several features that X has, which cannot be used by users who do not pay a premium subscription fee or something similar.
Currently, The costs are not that high. But I chose to ignore it. Because I only check Twitter to see announcements of various crypto projects that are on my watch list. So I don't need features that can be unlocked only by paying users.

However, if in the end Elon Musk really makes the X platform completely paid, then I think the user response will vary here. But it looks like the fees that will be charged to each user who registers an account on X will not be too high. So some people don't seem to mind that. I will personally see how much it will cost to pay later. If it's cheap then I think it's fine. But if it's not cheap then I prefer to leave platform X.

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If he does that then entire sections of the world will be wiped out from using Twitter because number one, he is not supporting all carriers for buying X Premium. The old twitter used to verify phone numbers for everyone. I'm not sure if they do it now.

And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.

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If he does that then entire sections of the world will be wiped out from using Twitter because number one, he is not supporting all carriers for buying X Premium. The old twitter used to verify phone numbers for everyone. I'm not sure if they do it now.

And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.

Like I've said, users will always have opportunity to read tweets, but they will be charged for posting. According to stats I've found, Twitter has around 350million users, and almost half of them seems to be able to pay monthly fee (I take into consideration their income and tradition have subscription to products). No doubt that Twitter would lose part of his audience, but people will still stay there. If verified account cost 10 EUR/month, than simple subscription would cost less. Payment is least important problem imo. Look at Russia today. They are switched off from swift, have huge limitation, yet they still manage to get foreign services. And most important, Elon Musk just wondered that he might charge users for Twitter usage, and people already caused panic.

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As much as we hate to admit it, this is the future. People may fight back now but in a few years time this might be the normal for every app as big as twitter.
Everything is being monetized these days. Billionaires are looking for ways to get richer so more ways to suck money out of people will be invented.

Apple music, Spotify, Netflix weren't openly accepted from the beginning. Almost every app has the premium member package. It's just what is it.
Personally I won't pay for twitter, but there are tones of people who will. There are those who make their money directly or indirectly from twitter.
I'm very certain that in 20 years time, apps like twitter would not be free. However little the fee might be, but it won't be totally free. Ots the world we live in.

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Apple music, Spotify, Netflix weren't openly accepted from the beginning. Almost every app has the premium member package. It's just what is it.
Personally I won't pay for twitter, but there are tones of people who will. There are those who make their money directly or indirectly from twitter.
I'm very certain that in 20 years time, apps like twitter would not be free. However little the fee might be, but it won't be totally free. Ots the world we live in.

Except Apple Music, Spotify, and Netflix not only serve content that is licensed by copyright rights holders, they serve content that's not even created by their platforms' users. You cannot compare any of these to twitter, because they are thinking about charging for the privilege to be able to tweet.

What is the point of buying the blue tick if now you have to pay to tweet on the platform in the first place? There will be no difference between the two.

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Apple music, Spotify, Netflix weren't openly accepted from the beginning. Almost every app has the premium member package. It's just what is it.
Personally I won't pay for twitter, but there are tones of people who will. There are those who make their money directly or indirectly from twitter.
I'm very certain that in 20 years time, apps like twitter would not be free. However little the fee might be, but it won't be totally free. Ots the world we live in.

Except Apple Music, Spotify, and Netflix not only serve content that is licensed by copyright rights holders, they serve content that's not even created by their platforms' users. You cannot compare any of these to twitter, because they are thinking about charging for the privilege to be able to tweet.

What is the point of buying the blue tick if now you have to pay to tweet on the platform in the first place? There will be no difference between the two.

I agree with you. I kind of get the premium experience of paying for a better experience for a platform like Spotify and the Twitter premium subscription, but to pay to use a social media application wherein there are others like that which offer free experience and are actually better? No way. I have never encountered a social platform that requires its users to pay in order to use it with its most basic features. As for the case of Netflix, it is not a social media platform/app, instead, Netflix contains media that are normally paid for individually like movies and documentaries, plus they also have original content that they produced. Twitter or X is a social media platform like Instagram and Facebook which have millions of users and are not even paying to use it.

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September 21, 2023, 02:44:26 PM
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I just know about this news and I am actually a twitter user, not an active one tho, but I still open it sometimes, and I think it's really ridiculous, they are the one who has problem with bot, they the user is the one paying the price. Tho I am not too surprised because earlier Elon also limit how many tweet a user can view, and Twitter Blue (Premium User) can view much more 10 times content compared to the free user. And if the rules is really applied, and user should pay significant amount, I think more user will move to Thread (a copycat of twitter made by Meta)

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If this doesn’t drive away more people from using the app than it already has, I don’t know what will. I thought making people pay for a verification checkmark was bad enough, the thought of making everyone pay in order to use the app is almost crazy.
Paying for verification checkmarks was implemented to fight bots and with a check mark, you’ve been verified to be a real person. That didn’t help stop bots. This move of making everyone pay to use the app wouldn’t still help eliminate bots.

It seems most services are now starting to be subscription based. Not surprising as profit maximization is probably at the top of the list of priorities and goals for any business organization.
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I want pay a dime

I'm leaving twitter
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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

X was popular because it was free. Many organizations, celebrities or political figures want to reach every segment of society. But when the app is paid, the chance to reach every segment of society disappears. This means that the No. 1 goal of the app can no longer be achieved. I think it would be a big mistake for X to become a paid app.

They prefer not to protect certain things. They know that communication and advertising are very important things today, but they want to give them up. As soon as it becomes paid, many users will no longer be able to use it. I'm not talking about more or less, I'm talking about taking away the structure of X where people can share ideas with each other for free.

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Holy crap....I'm so out of the loop with the news that I didn't even know Twitter had changed their name.  Is that true?  They changed it to X?  I guess that makes sense for Elon Musk, but Twitter had become kind of an iconic brand name (even though I think their service is total shit).

Anyway, I never got the sense that Musk actually cared for Twitter all that much--even though he bought it, I think he was just trying to make a whole lot of noise and piss a bunch of people off that he didn't like or whose views don't align with his.  And he had the money to do it combined with the personality of a troll, so now that he's got control of X or Twitter I'm not sure he gives a shit if people leave or not.

The guy is just weird, weird, weird.  I never could stand the opinions coming out of Twitter or the attention they got from the mainstream media, so I was rooting for him when there was some question as to whether he'd be able to pull of the acquisition.  Now he's stepped back a bit and I couldn't care less what happens to the company.  My apologies to OP and others who use it, but if X goes under you'll survive.

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September 21, 2023, 07:56:00 PM
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Except Apple Music, Spotify, and Netflix not only serve content that is licensed by copyright rights holders, they serve content that's not even created by their platforms' users. You cannot compare any of these to twitter, because they are thinking about charging for the privilege to be able to tweet.

What is the point of buying the blue tick if now you have to pay to tweet on the platform in the first place? There will be no difference between the two.

I agree with you. I'm not comparing Apple Music and Spotify to Twitter, I'm just saying it has become a norm to pay for those apps. People pay for dating apps and all.
My point is, that that's the direction we're heading. Personally, I won't pay shit for Twitter although it's the social media I use the most but this is going to be a norm in a while unless something is done about it.

If it works out for Mr Musk others will follow suit with time. If it fails, others will learn from his mistakes and make the most out of their apps. Either way, the world is in the direction where we begin to pay for stuff like this which is absurd

Since Musk took over Twitter, the app has not been fun anymore. I no longer enjoy and I spent less time on the app. Asking me to pay for it will just make me deactivate my account.

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I am now feeling like Elon Musk is going to be the next 'Thanos' in the history of social media as he will not only remove bots and fake users, but he will unintentionally kick out more than half of Twitter's active users too with it which will not be a very smart move on his end. I hope he won't ask people for kyc some day to use Twitter (I hate that 'X' latter, reminds of everything that starts from X  Cheesy).
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I don't care much for X or Twitter but charging users an "access fee" would surely significantly reduce the userbase of his platform.

the article said Elon Musk's reason for charging a fee is to combat bots/fake accounts, while I understand his concern about bots and fake accounts, is he really willing to risk losing millions and millions of actual users who aren't willing to pay an access fee to combat bots? I wonder if he has some kind of plan other than this because doing this sounds and looks really bad for his platform.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
No, while it is useful sometimes when looking up some information, I will not spend money to use a platform that I rarely use.

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My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.
If you are making money from X, I don’t see anything bad in paying any amount that he will be implementing for the users to pay, but if you are not making any money and you have an alternative, then I see that as a complete waste of money. But other social media sites offering the same service will use the opportunity to get more customers, and I'm sure if Elon Musk is successful in doing that, later in the future, most social media sites will end up implementing the same policy.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
I know X social media to be a popular and interesting one, but Elon Musk is going too far. I see the reason why I will pay any amount to use X social media. There are other social media on which I can get the same information and fun that I am getting from X for free without paying any amount of money, so immediately it’s implemented that I have to pay some amount of money before the social media can be used. I will just leave it and focus on another social media, and I am sure X will be losing a lot of customers by doing that. Elon Musk should think twice before implementing it, or he might end up regretting his actions.

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First of all, Elon said that he is planning to charge people for using Twitter, and people already started to raise panic. Second, a lot of people have accounts, but never use them. However, they complain about Elons plans and claim that "they wont use, what they have never used". Third, it is normal to pay for service you use. No one promised that Twitter is always going to be free. Notice that Twitter, compared to other social media platforms, does not flash with ads like Christmas tree with lights. Want free Twitter, accept the fact to see banners and ads all the time.

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Twitter has become a "perfect" example of "how not to do things". Overestimation of his abilities and "greatness" played a bad role for Ilon Musk. It seems that the man imagines himself to be a "god on earth", and ... everything went wrong in his rosy dreams and plans.

The second problem is the role of Twitter in Musk's plans. There are many rumors that he wants to make a global multifunctional monetizable network on the basis of Twitter (there is no X Smiley ). But somehow it seems to me that Musk is trying to create a "manual", managed resource for loyalty management and audience building to promote either Musk himself in politics or his "customer", for example Trump Smiley A 40 million manageable audience where you can influence people's minds on a regular basis is a valuable resource. But this is my personal opinion and I could be wrong

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First of all, Elon said that he is planning to charge people for using Twitter, and people already started to raise panic. Second, a lot of people have accounts, but never use them. However, they complain about Elons plans and claim that "they wont use, what they have never used". Third, it is normal to pay for service you use. No one promised that Twitter is always going to be free. Notice that Twitter, compared to other social media platforms, does not flash with ads like Christmas tree with lights. Want free Twitter, accept the fact to see banners and ads all the time.

The interesting thing is that many people criticize Elon for being too greedy and finding ways to collect money from users, but they never look back at themselves. They are just as greedy as Elon, they just want to use it for free and ask for privacy to be respected and ads not to bother them...LOL. Everyone is equally greedy, but it's funny when greedy people criticize greedy people.

I'm not happy to hear this news because X is my favorite social network, but I respect Elon's decision if he does. Because it's all just work and no one gives anything to anyone.

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September 22, 2023, 09:58:44 AM
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X has been my best social media because it is the place I mostly visit when it comes to getting information about cryptocurrencies, but if I see this change and money is required to use Twitter, I am not affected because my account on X is not active at all. All I can just do is to click on a link to visit what I want to visit.

This may open ways for competitors.

If no one can be able to access the site unless payment is made, I will not use Twitter anymore.
Just as the name Twitter was beautiful, it was also great at work. But while Twitter still works well, it feels a bit uncomfortable to change its name to X. Twitter was a very popular social media for cryptocurrency promotion.  Hashtags, Mentions work very well here, which is why Twitter is a very popular social media for promoting crypto projects. But Twitter's popularity is waning slightly for its name change to X


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September 22, 2023, 12:32:16 PM
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X has been my best social media because it is the place I mostly visit when it comes to getting information about cryptocurrencies, but if I see this change and money is required to use Twitter, I am not affected because my account on X is not active at all. All I can just do is to click on a link to visit what I want to visit.

This may open ways for competitors.

If no one can be able to access the site unless payment is made, I will not use Twitter anymore.
Just as the name Twitter was beautiful, it was also great at work. But while Twitter still works well, it feels a bit uncomfortable to change its name to X. Twitter was a very popular social media for cryptocurrency promotion.  Hashtags, Mentions work very well here, which is why Twitter is a very popular social media for promoting crypto projects. But Twitter's popularity is waning slightly for its name change to X

Whether it's X or Twitter, it's the same, you feel uncomfortable because it's just a habit because you've been using twitter for a long time.  but if you are a new user, you will be more impressed with brand X than Twitter.  the brand name cannot be more important than the quality of the product, as long as X is getting better and better in quality, there is no reason for us to leave it just because it was renamed by Elon.  but the issue of him planning to charge all users is worrying.  but it's all just rumors and there's been no official announcement yet, so I don't really care.

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Twitter has become a "perfect" example of "how not to do things". Overestimation of his abilities and "greatness" played a bad role for Ilon Musk. It seems that the man imagines himself to be a "god on earth", and ... everything went wrong in his rosy dreams and plans.

You wanna know whats the worse part of this?

Its that some people will still think that he is a genius on being able to execute 'silly' ideas that none other social media platform ever attempted to do.

The second problem is the role of Twitter in Musk's plans. There are many rumors that he wants to make a global multifunctional monetizable network on the basis of Twitter (there is no X Smiley ).

I thought he did? some users that bought verified account receive small portion of the ads I believe, small numbers but its actually well worth it if your tweet or account reaches huge number of audiences. This plan might not even last long as most advertisers will most likely choose other platform to display their ads so they are probably on tight budget there on this program

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..the article said Elon Musk's reason for charging a fee is to combat bots/fake accounts,...
That's how the story goes, but...why do people believe anything this dude says?

"charging a fee" is just his way to "KYC", although that's the wrong description here, it should be more like KYP, 'cuz the user is the product, not the customer.
Verified identities sell for a higher price.

The payment isn't the problem, the verification is.

But noones talking about that, everyone just happily pays for a bluecheck,
even the oh so freedom- and privacy-loving crypto-community, because.....it's to combat evil bots.

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First of all, Elon said that he is planning to charge people for using Twitter, and people already started to raise panic. Second, a lot of people have accounts, but never use them. However, they complain about Elons plans and claim that "they wont use, what they have never used". Third, it is normal to pay for service you use. No one promised that Twitter is always going to be free. Notice that Twitter, compared to other social media platforms, does not flash with ads like Christmas tree with lights. Want free Twitter, accept the fact to see banners and ads all the time.
But Twitter is full of ads, I'm not sure if you noticed but in your feed, you will see a lot of tweets that are advertising which are even tagged as advertisements, so is the trending list which goes without a day of an advertisement taking the top spot. People are not generally complaining about the ads, though it is normal to see that nowadays, especially in social media platforms, what users are complaining about is how Twitter/X will be charging anyone who wants to use the platform even on its most basic features which no other social media platform has done before (at least not one that have millions of users). I'm not sure if you understood OP's post, it is not about paying from a premium experience, it is about generally using the platform with ads that is currently fee.

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[1] Elon Musk plans to charge users a monthly fee to access X
[2] Elon Musk says he will start charging people to use X-Twitter

It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
Of course there will be a free to use version of twitter, I guess the standard twitter without any new features like edit and added character count on each tweet. Though I instantly got worried after I saw that it priorities search results, I'm sure scammers will use this kind of feature as an additional way to scam people in twitter. We have saw scammers buying verified accounts last bull market and using it to scam people on a creative way. I'm expecting another wave of scammers during the bull market where people are craving for information and money in the internet. Last bull market was a big season for scammer, what more now where blue checks and additional features is now more easy to get.
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I don't think the current twitter will have the guts to ask its customers base to exit the app simply because it is trying to adapt itself or services to fit its current design rather than fit customers needs to their current design. It quite bizarre to even think about it.
The news I read on this is that Twitter users may be expected to start paying subscription to log in and advertise their businesses on the platform.
If so much as the payment before use of the app is the stressor, more users like me, will have to opt for a better and already established social platform for better customer service without even being asked to exit.

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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

Despite the charge to combat fake accounts, does it totally solve the problem of scammers still carrying on with their activities? No matter what fee they attach, scammers will still pay those fees to have access to a real account. Anyway, the purpose is not just to combat fake accounts or bots but also to generate more money for the company.

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I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

Even if they want to combat fake accounts, there are other ways to do it without charging users a fee. I quite don't like that idea. IMO, it's a good idea to want to fight against fake accounts, but the idea is just for their personal gain because they can still archive what they want without those fees attached.

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I’m not a fan of Elon Musk. At first when Elon Musk bought the company X formerly known as Twitter, he promised its users free speech and less censorship. People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.


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People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.

The fact that people believe Elon's words are just dumb. He might be one of the richest guy alive but he has no clue on how to run a social media platform properly. In a way, all that censorship that he has done is his own idea on how to combat bots plaguing the site so it actually works out in his favour. Anyway, its Elon so you can expect him to do something even dumber in a year or two such as moving X to an even secluded 'social' media platform that is only limited to everyone that buy its subscription

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September 23, 2023, 02:36:56 AM
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Yeah I also heard the news.

I like X a lot. damn, I like the old brand Twitter is already great why did Elon decide to change to X duhhhhhh. It has already been my main social media every day because the crypto news and memes are there.
A lot of anon fess that made me angry sad and laugh is from X   Grin whether globally or in Indonesia.

If you guys used WhatsApp a couple of years ago they actually charged a small fee for users before Facebook or Meta acquired the app. If they charge like really small fee I will have no problem example like a dollar a year  Grin

or maybe Mr. Elon wants his money back faster after acquiring the Twitter

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September 23, 2023, 02:53:42 AM
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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

Despite the charge to combat fake accounts, does it totally solve the problem of scammers still carrying on with their activities? No matter what fee they attach, scammers will still pay those fees to have access to a real account. Anyway, the purpose is not just to combat fake accounts or bots but also to generate more money for the company.

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I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

Even if they want to combat fake accounts, there are other ways to do it without charging users a fee. I quite don't like that idea. IMO, it's a good idea to want to fight against fake accounts, but the idea is just for their personal gain because they can still archive what they want without those fees attached.

I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.

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September 23, 2023, 05:46:41 AM
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I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.
Obviously any business owner wants to make money, as that is the whole reason businesses are created despite what their owners may try to make us believe, but this seems like the wrong move, how much Elon can earn by charging users to use X when there are free alternatives which will be more than happy to get those users to their platform? Now if that was all what he may lose it would not be so bad, but without those users how much money he will lose as other companies stop buying any ads on the X platform? So when I think about it this seems like a move that will make him to lose a lot of money.
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September 23, 2023, 07:00:36 AM
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My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

I have no idea what Elon Musk is doing to do with Twitter/X. He paid so much money for the company and now Zuckerberg us creating his own site from scratch. Asking for money from your customers while there is a free alternative sounds like a bad idea and could lead to many users abandoning the website. Already the whole idea of selling a blue checkmark for 8 USD made very cautious. I didn't buy it back then and I wouldn't buy it now. I am not getting any income X. That's why it's a No, I wouldn't pay Twitter/X, they already have so much access to my personal information which is likely being sold to 3rd parties. Why should I on top of that pay to the company. If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
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September 23, 2023, 08:58:30 AM
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If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
However, it's important to remember that the inhabitants of X may not always share the same habits as those on Facebook or Instagram. Each social media platform possesses its own unique advantages, which can be considered as the distinctive features of each social media company.

The call to collectively depart from X may not be entirely fitting either. X offers a broader market, and it is frequently utilized by top-tier celebrities to disseminate their updates. Are you certain you have no idols and wish to sever ties solely due to the associated costs of using X?

I don't take this too seriously, as I am only an infrequent X user. However, considering the multitude of businesses already established on the X platform, it suggests that not everyone will harbor resentment toward Elon Musk's decisions.
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September 23, 2023, 09:39:17 AM
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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

Yes, I will pay if Musk charges for a month to use X. As you say he said that he took this step just for the removal of bots and fake accounts dominancy. I appreciate his work because, in today's era, every social media platform is full of bots and fake accounts that cause serious issues.

As you all know X is used by every politician, influencer, crypto person, News channel, Every project and every section that may involve Govt or private sector use it. But at the same time, some fake bots are also performing their work which is spreading the wrong information.

Let's take Facebook or Instagram as an example in which every third person has a fake account that spy on you or spread some useless information. If something happens these bots or fake persons interpret the same thing but in different ways which causes conflict or dispute and guides you wrong.

I use X for the News related to my country's economy, the cryptocurrency world the new project that is coming, and the already existing projects if they have any updates. If he starts paying per month then it will minimize the fake news from spreading and at least we say that there is a platform that charges you but takes care of your security, and privacy. 
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September 23, 2023, 09:42:35 AM
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I have no idea what Elon Musk is doing to do with Twitter/X. He paid so much money for the company and now Zuckerberg us creating his own site from scratch. Asking for money from your customers while there is a free alternative sounds like a bad idea and could lead to many users abandoning the website. Already the whole idea of selling a blue checkmark for 8 USD made very cautious. I didn't buy it back then and I wouldn't buy it now. I am not getting any income X. That's why it's a No, I wouldn't pay Twitter/X, they already have so much access to my personal information which is likely being sold to 3rd parties. Why should I on top of that pay to the company. If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.

He's unwittingly trying really hard to get people to switch to Threads.

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September 23, 2023, 10:35:21 AM
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One thing Elon Musk has hacked is that "we cannot leave twitter or X." and thats the truth, it doesn't matter what your niche is in life; you simply cannot leave the X app and Musk is leveraging on that TRUTH.

Are you into politics?
Are you into crypto currency?
Are you into sports?
Are you into journalism?
Are you a health or sport science personnel?
Are you into movies?

X app is the place to be, and that's why i put it to you that if Elon Musk mandates a fee to use the app today, You would gladly pay for it. At the moment, subscribers posts and comments are given priority and advantage and there has been influx of subscribers too; do you think you can do without X if fee becomes mandatory?
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September 23, 2023, 04:07:16 PM
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If X hides behind a paywall going forward and won't allow me to use their services for free than I am going to switch. All the other services like Facebook, Instagram, telegram or WhatsApp are free, why start now to pay for one if it.
However, it's important to remember that the inhabitants of X may not always share the same habits as those on Facebook or Instagram. Each social media platform possesses its own unique advantages, which can be considered as the distinctive features of each social media company.

The call to collectively depart from X may not be entirely fitting either. X offers a broader market, and it is frequently utilized by top-tier celebrities to disseminate their updates. Are you certain you have no idols and wish to sever ties solely due to the associated costs of using X?

I don't take this too seriously, as I am only an infrequent X user. However, considering the multitude of businesses already established on the X platform, it suggests that not everyone will harbor resentment toward Elon Musk's decisions.
I don't think anyone is bound to the Twitter app in as much as they love it, these days, so many other social media apps perform as much as desired to engage the public and a selected audience of ones niche.
If Elon is trying to make Twitter the holy grail of social media by imposing fees and charges or limiting customers from its service, they have no other option than to go elsewhere and am very sure more developers will come up with other better social or business apps to accommodate those who would be pushed off the social platform, Twitter.

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September 23, 2023, 09:22:50 PM
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For now I have assume that Musk is only trying to troll people around and won't actually implement a monthly price tag on the use of X/Twitter, because if he does that, it would likely translate onto the massive migration of users from Twitter/X to other alternatives, like Threads or whatever.

In the end, I trust the Elon is not that stupid to believe this is a good idea for his investment, if he does then he is either stupid or it has his plan all along to destroy Twitter from the beginning,for whatever reason.

Billionaires can be quite strange people, sometimes.

Anyways, I would not like to lose access to my personal account.  Sad

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September 23, 2023, 09:44:40 PM
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Bro is doing everything in his power to push people to threads and mastodon lol.

Never been much of an Elon fan since day one. His cameo on Rick and Morty’s weak as hell too. There’s nothing to like about the guy really. He’s stupid as hell, insecure as fuck, and everytime someone tells him otherwise he places his anger and frustration on Twitter. I hope he loses all the money he used to buy that platform cause goddamn that would be funny.

Actually charging people to access a one-free social media application cause you’re not turning profits as much as you hoped you would even after charging people 8 bucks for a glorified badge? Now that’s just new levels of stupid right there.
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People believed he was going to put a stop to the cancel culture that was plaguing the internet. Little did we know that the new owner had other plans regarding how the platform would be.  The first change I can remember was the blue tick monthly subscription fee, I wasn’t bothered about because I thought it only affected celebrities but in July announced new limits to how much content users can view per day. That IMO is more censorship than there ever was on the platform.

The fact that people believe Elon's words are just dumb. He might be one of the richest guy alive but he has no clue on how to run a social media platform properly. In a way, all that censorship that he has done is his own idea on how to combat bots plaguing the site so it actually works out in his favour. Anyway, its Elon so you can expect him to do something even dumber in a year or two such as moving X to an even secluded 'social' media platform that is only limited to everyone that buy its subscription
People do believe what Elon words, he is a very influential. Remember when Elon Musk was pushing Tron as the next big cryptocurrency, he even went as far as to criticize bitcoin and tag bitcoin as a source of environmental pollution. He said all this garbage just so he could get his followers to dump bitcoin and buy Tron. Elon Musk has proven to be selfish person whose words should be taken with a pinch of salt. Whatever he has in store for his new found company, I really don’t care.

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I think it's all just an excuse for Elon to find a way to make money from us, but don't be too surprised or feel uncomfortable if he does that. Because he also bought twitter for tens of billions of dollars and in this world, no one gives anything for free. If we could create a social network and would we be happy to spend millions to keep it free for everyone to use? I bet none of us are nice enough to do that. Once it is called a business, it needs to be profitable, no one does charity for anyone.

None of us liked this idea including me because we all wanted it all to be free. But if we were in his place, we would be as greedy as him.
Obviously any business owner wants to make money, as that is the whole reason businesses are created despite what their owners may try to make us believe, but this seems like the wrong move, how much Elon can earn by charging users to use X when there are free alternatives which will be more than happy to get those users to their platform? Now if that was all what he may lose it would not be so bad, but without those users how much money he will lose as other companies stop buying any ads on the X platform? So when I think about it this seems like a move that will make him to lose a lot of money.

We can all easily think of it, people leaving Twitter and finding an alternative if Twitter actually charged all users. I think Elon is not stupid enough to not think about this issue when making the decision to charge fees to all users. But why he still makes that bold decision is something we need to think about, he always has eccentric thoughts compared to normal people.

Moreover, what I'm thinking is if we leave Twitter then what will be our next choice, Threads is too bad for us to use it. Just like the telegram application, everyone thinks that this is the biggest scam space and should stay away from them, but until now, this is still the most popular messaging social network. But so far, there has been no official announcement from Twitter, right? Because I have not received any notification about this fee.

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September 24, 2023, 10:01:01 AM
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The thing is that TwiteX has been loosing money all over because it simply does not find the way to monetize since long long ago. Elon wants to send the company into the green but also is aware of a very high regulatory and political risk because, just like it happened with facebook, it is just too easy to influence democracies and these are going to defend themselves... perhaps by shutting it down or making aggressive legislation.

This move is trying, poorly, to solve these two problems.

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September 24, 2023, 10:06:54 AM
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I am not willing to pay it because this is not the way it was from the beginning plus it was purely a social media platform open to whole world. Now I have to pay to put my thoughts on social media? I would simply choose other platforms and be happy about it.

I am not sure if you guys know this but WhatsApp used to be paid in earlier days and they made this transition out of nowhere. Soon, they started loosing the user base at an alarming rate and from then onward nearly about 2013-14 they switched back to free version to everyone. This brought back most of the users along with the new ones.

Twitter on the other hand will lose a lot and I hardly think Elon will look forward to Switch back if they lose users because they are more or less trying our business model for profits.
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First of all, Elon said that he is planning to charge people for using Twitter, and people already started to raise panic. Second, a lot of people have accounts, but never use them. However, they complain about Elons plans and claim that "they wont use, what they have never used". Third, it is normal to pay for service you use. No one promised that Twitter is always going to be free. Notice that Twitter, compared to other social media platforms, does not flash with ads like Christmas tree with lights. Want free Twitter, accept the fact to see banners and ads all the time.
But Twitter is full of ads, I'm not sure if you noticed but in your feed, you will see a lot of tweets that are advertising which are even tagged as advertisements, so is the trending list which goes without a day of an advertisement taking the top spot. People are not generally complaining about the ads, though it is normal to see that nowadays, especially in social media platforms, what users are complaining about is how Twitter/X will be charging anyone who wants to use the platform even on its most basic features which no other social media platform has done before (at least not one that have millions of users). I'm not sure if you understood OP's post, it is not about paying from a premium experience, it is about generally using the platform with ads that is currently fee.

Perhaps I dont understand OP post, but I see nothing bad in charging money for service you provide. Lets say those 17 years were sort of a trial period. Now it is over. Besides, Elon also mentioned that he plans to turn Twitter into more than just a place to write few words, as he plans to add a wallet feature or a kind of payment system into Twitter. And who is complaining about "potential twitter usage fee" ? People who tweet "today I ate an apple" and accounts like this? People are to much used to getting a lot for free.

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I think I have to see first what the condition is. if it just pays for Elon Musk profit alone without any good reason it's better to leave it. but from what I hear they want to get rid of Twitter bots their only solution is to make it pay. but if it pays a large amount I won't pay it. However, social media should be used for free.

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What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
I think I have to see first what the condition is. if it just pays for Elon Musk profit alone without any good reason it's better to leave it. but from what I hear they want to get rid of Twitter bots their only solution is to make it pay. but if it pays a large amount I won't pay it. However, social media should be used for free.
Everybody is right on their own opinion, but due to my own opinion X is like the best social media platforms that I derived a lot from it, I don't think I have any option rather than to pay for it, is only me that know what am getting from it. Sometimes if am lonely I use X for fun. My reason for saying I will pay is that if I did not see any news on X I don't believe in it because even in own country politicians like X and they use as a middle of pass information and a type that prefer to see things with my on eyes because they say seen is believing. I am type that hate fake news and in X they easily make it clear either true or false.

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September 25, 2023, 05:08:19 PM
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Fake accounts and bots are their problem (not ours) but it's crazy on they are now requiring us to pay to fix those mess. The people behind those abuses are also a shit. They are a cancer to the community. They don't do anything good. I hope they all die horribly and get different kinds of karma if in case they won't get caught one day.

@OP if you want to earn while using X, you can try joining social media campaigns here in the forum. In X, you can also subscribe to premium in order to get the small blue check tag in your profile. It has a perk of adding ads in your posts and you can earn some profit on it depending on your engagement.

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It's no news that the economy of X has been dwindling and I wouldn't say I was shocked when I read the news from CNBC that Elon Musk in a live stream conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated to start letting X charge every user a small amount monthly to combat fake account and bot dominance.

I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.

As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.

If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.

My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.

What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?

Elon does not care for any of the users of X, he simply bought it so he could be the ultimate arbitrator and penalize anyone that is vocal against his ideas, even if he does not take revenge directly. He has ruined the platform and his character has driven away many big advertisers who will likely not return while he still owns it. He has proven time and again that he is a liability, reckless with his words and could do massive harm to any brand that associates with him. Even by his own account, it was obvious for many others to see, he vastly overpaid for the platform and combined with falling revenues - again caused by him - it will be a struggle for him to turn it into any sort of profitable organization for a long time.

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I give him a little more credit then that premise, I want to be a dictator.  The price was 40bn and presumably forcing people to agree with him is not going to work out on any timescale, do I really believe he thinks otherwise; I do not.    I cant see why he has bothered especially but now he is stuck with the hot potato he ordered, I imagine he does try to improve some factors and sell it on which is a feasible plan.   Even with regrets he could make a profit or break even, compared to Tesla he is wasting his time the moneyarty premium the market gives TSLA is gigantic they think he is a king.  
   Heres the first positive take I've seen on his administration and ultimately could be a big deal if somehow it is empowering to the crowd in any fair way.  I dont know how its balanced but evidently people love 'Community notes' as a feature: https://youtu.be/2HIrJGjvuFY?t=108

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Fake accounts and bots are their problem (not ours) but it's crazy on they are now requiring us to pay to fix those mess. The people behind those abuses are also a shit. They are a cancer to the community. They don't do anything good. I hope they all die horribly and get different kinds of karma if in case they won't get caught one day.

Well, Elon wrote that he doesn't see any other way to deal with all those bots. He even described the situation that it wouldn't be profitable for someone who has a lot of bots to pay for all of them. Bots are a really serious problem, and here I have to agree with Elon, I don't believe there is any other way to fight them, which would be similar/or more effective.

We need to wait for these changes... when they come and when I check what's there all about I will think about paying and staying or I will simply move to some other platform. But like some other people here, I am mostly active on Twitter, I didn't open any other platform for months/years.

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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

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September 27, 2023, 10:32:21 AM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.
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September 27, 2023, 01:41:18 PM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.
If such a problem arises from this change, I'm sure it will mostly be big brands who need to save their social media that will purchase the app or access to the platform. However, for everyday users and those who are just there for updates on whichever community they belong in, I'm sure they'll be reluctant to pay for it and move to a different platform, it just isn't really worth it to pay for basic access to a social media platform that used to be free for years.

As for other social platforms possibly doing the same, I think it is close to impossible to ever happen. Facebook and Instagram may contain ads and have options for their users to pay for some premium experience, but I don't think Mark will require payment just for the basic access and use of these social media platforms knowing how negative the feedback will be, and besides these platforms are already doing so well (in terms of the number of users they have).

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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

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September 28, 2023, 06:46:44 AM
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I've been neutral about Elons plans to charge users for using Twitter, but lately think more and more about him giving examples to others. Lets suppose he starts charging (or not) fees for Twitter (so far this is just an idea as far as I know). But what if Facebook, Instagram and Gmail will start to charge for service? What will you do and think then? Also claim that "they tell people to leave" ? Or live with idea that one day we will have to pay for what we get for free in past, and pay for it?

We will end up paying it or else there will be another social media giant that is free and dominating it all but the problem right now is that people are into it meaning their photos and important contacts are saved into it so if they ask you to pay probably there are plenty of people paying it because of their photos videos and their data.

I do hope that if ever X charges its users, Facebook and other platforms won't because if this happens for sure another social media platform will rise and be used by us as not all of us are willing to pay.

People can always save and reupload all the photos. Contacts can be warned that you move other platform. And I think the account will stay in database anyway. I just look on this situation on different angle. We are so much used to subscriptions today. Tv, music, videos, games, apps on phone/tablet/car and etc. People even have subscription to daily coffee at petrol station at my place. So one more subscription wont affect their life significantly imo.

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September 28, 2023, 11:15:47 AM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.

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September 28, 2023, 03:50:17 PM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.
I agree with you. Twitter (or now known as X) is a social media platform, it's main purpose is to be a space for users to communicate and form a community of different interests. Hence, these users who are mostly there to stay connected and informed will surely not spend any amount of money to just use the basic features of the platform, features that they can easily access from other social media platforms/app without spending anything. It will be such a loss for Twitter/X if these users chose to leave as they are the ones who makes up more than half of the overall users of Twitter/X. Elon Musk must have forgotten just how big of a role users have when it comes to social media platforms.

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The crazy part about this X thing to me is that no matter how much Elon says he wants free speech, the employees are still censoring people. Just yesterday he fired the entire fair election team for manipulating elections. I myself even still get censored when discussing topics like transgender people. There’s still a ways to go…

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Everybody is right on their own opinion, but due to my own opinion X is like the best social media platforms that I derived a lot from it, I don't think I have any option rather than to pay for it, is only me that know what am getting from it. Sometimes if am lonely I use X for fun. My reason for saying I will pay is that if I did not see any news on X I don't believe in it because even in own country politicians like X and they use as a middle of pass information and a type that prefer to see things with my on eyes because they say seen is believing. I am type that hate fake news and in X they easily make it clear either true or false.

You would believe a bot account with 20k followers with information over your local news network. Crazy times. As for fake news and misinformation, it still runs rampant despite some feeble attempts to  make some changes. If you’re truly looking for credible information near you, buy a copy of your local paper where sources are literally quoted.
You’re probably not the only one who would pay to use the platform. I believe people who paid for verification checks along with others would also pay to tweet. To each his own.
When you’re sometimes lonely, you use X for fun. I suppose you’re making good use of the adult content on the platform eh.. wink wink
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September 28, 2023, 10:22:12 PM
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We know how people use twitter in different ways, and after Elon bought it and made another branding of X because he wanted to gain back all losses, and see the potential of the twitter now is X for a platform into the web3 or other crypto-related stuff he now want to include the monthly payment for the badge and at the same time using X has now a fees if that so people only have money can afford it and for sure the number of users will be decreased. In my part I won't use it anymore. Possible only people who really capable to use and earn with it enjoys the perks of it.

The original purpose of Twitter was not to make a living off it, though. It was all about sharing pictures, stories and micro blogging; to keep in touch with celebrities, organizations and other people which produced content we liked.

If Elon Musk focused too much into monetization and the earning aspect of Twitter, those who simply liked to stay informed, comment and follow others will just quit and find alternatives, the decrease of users will be translated in a further loss of value for Twitter.

I don't know what it is going through that man's mind, but it seems he is rather trying to destroy the platform instead getting his money back.
I agree with you. Twitter (or now known as X) is a social media platform, it's main purpose is to be a space for users to communicate and form a community of different interests. Hence, these users who are mostly there to stay connected and informed will surely not spend any amount of money to just use the basic features of the platform, features that they can easily access from other social media platforms/app without spending anything. It will be such a loss for Twitter/X if these users chose to leave as they are the ones who makes up more than half of the overall users of Twitter/X. Elon Musk must have forgotten just how big of a role users have when it comes to social media platforms.

If I had to guess, I would say he has allowed his ego to devour his own common sense. He may believe people will pay and stay just because he is kind of a celebrity and a meme on the internet.

Though, I am sure that to this point he may have someone sane enough around him to tell him that charging for Twitter is a bad idea if he ever plans to try to recover his money. In the case Elon only listens to Yesmen, it is safe to say Twitter will be a dead social media by a year after the fee is implemented.

Threads by Facebook and other alternatives will obviously try to capitalize on it. It would be foolish not to at that point.

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If someone had told me years back that a day would come when someone would have access to Twitter(X), I would bluntly doubt the person that it can't happen. But here I am, thinking about how will this be possible when Twitter(X) has been my major social media platform I enjoy mostly on acquiring information about crypto more often.

Anyway, since this is the plan of Elon Musk to monetize X, I think that will be the end of my journey with X because I can't afford to pay for what I am not getting a reward for joining at the end of each of my days socializing with it.



Nobody is actually stopping Elon Musk from doing whatever he pleases, let him continue to monetize X until we find a better social media platform that can beat X someday. By that time, it would have been clear to him that X wouldn't continue to be the best social media that will exist in the globe.

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this is why competition for twitter is needed, but unfortunately even thread made by instagram only popular for a whole week and then vanish into thin air.
people are just really fond with twitter already doesn't matter what silly business decision there is they already used to twitter and hardly could move into other social media platforms.
so therefore I think elon will just keep adding more and more idea about monetization of this platform after all he has spent billions of dollars. There have been also a rumor said that if elon would be pricing its platform.
Any users already registered in x shall pay x amounts as subscribe fees. Since elon bought twitter with decent amount of money and this billionaire is willing to get it back as soon as possible by implementing various things to it.

therefore I'm not gonna be surprised if the whole platform gonna be all about taking money from its users.

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You would believe a bot account with 20k followers with information over your local news network. Crazy times.

If we say AI instead of bot would that make any more sense.    We're heading towards where a bot is easily more useful to follow for collated information and responses then a person can be.  This isnt a negative outcome, the part where its a bot but deceiving people or the info is false thats a negative and also true.  I think AI is not just hype, it'll increase seems like.




Whatever Elon's rules and the websites rules, there is a legal requirement in each and every country they operate in.  I know at least some of these countries will count some of the topics on X as hate speech and you cannot just say whatever you like when it involves whats perceived as threats or anything violence related.   I dont like the PC culture especially but I think we already know not every topic will be ok, point is that in the course heated discussion people basically can come close to legal boundaries and go past that line where its no longer a peaceful debate hence why the website is always going to need some kind of moderation.  You cannot have this dream like idea of total free speech, theres always some who want to take it too far thats been true every year that Twitter or X existed.  
  I beginning to think Elon's tenue might not be a disaster, he can perhaps turn it around enough to say Im done and exit at some point with a few improvements perhaps to the quality and bots he complained about.  Maybe thats all he needs but my doubt would still be he makes a profit or it was actually a worthwhile project for him in personal advancement but not everything is monetary.

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