Is Marriage a contract or a union?

[blockman]

Before in my country, the paper of proof of marriage was called a marriage contract but then changed into a marriage certificate. What's the connection? Before you needed to renew that contract but when it was changed, it was a lifetime commitment which actually really is.
It is only our country and Vatican IIRC the countries that don't have divorce because we're giving importance to the union of two people of opposite sex. Recently, as this topic is timely, our senate is starting to make divorce a law. While we've got annulment in our country the process of making it valid is you'll go through a lot of time and money. Thus, most of the couples that are no longer in good terms just try to forget each other even they're married and find their new partners.

That is interesting. Is it really your country among the few which do not recognize divorces? Because I would have assumed most of countries around the planet had a relatively flexible set of laws to allow people to separate each other.

Of course, I was aware that in the case of countries which follow the sharia law or those who are mostly muslin, did not allowed couples to separate, because the obvious religious implications those divorces would imply.

Yes, we're also aware of Muslim laws but that's an exception.

Even by the standards of former Spanish colonies, the Philippines has extremely socially conservative laws. It is the only country in world, bar the Vatican City, to outlaw divorce (except for Muslims).

In the case of my country, getting a divorce is relatively easy, one just need to pay for a lawyer to take care of it.

So except for our country, all countries really have an easy process for a divorce. Here, we've got almost the same thing called annulment but the process is really terrible and would take years even if you've got money to process it. The process here in applications is kind of slow, it's how our justice system works not just for this particular matter and that reality sucks but you've got a slight quicker process when you've got money. Really here, money matters and moves processes.

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[Hispo]

Before in my country, the paper of proof of marriage was called a marriage contract but then changed into a marriage certificate. What's the connection? Before you needed to renew that contract but when it was changed, it was a lifetime commitment which actually really is.
It is only our country and Vatican IIRC the countries that don't have divorce because we're giving importance to the union of two people of opposite sex. Recently, as this topic is timely, our senate is starting to make divorce a law. While we've got annulment in our country the process of making it valid is you'll go through a lot of time and money. Thus, most of the couples that are no longer in good terms just try to forget each other even they're married and find their new partners.

That is interesting. Is it really your country among the few which do not recognize divorces? Because I would have assumed most of countries around the planet had a relatively flexible set of laws to allow people to separate each other.

Of course, I was aware that in the case of countries which follow the sharia law or those who are mostly muslin, did not allowed couples to separate, because the obvious religious implications those divorces would imply.

Yes, we're also aware of Muslim laws but that's an exception.

Even by the standards of former Spanish colonies, the Philippines has extremely socially conservative laws. It is the only country in world, bar the Vatican City, to outlaw divorce (except for Muslims).

In the case of my country, getting a divorce is relatively easy, one just need to pay for a lawyer to take care of it.

So except for our country, all countries really have an easy process for a divorce. Here, we've got almost the same thing called annulment but the process is really terrible and would take years even if you've got money to process it. The process here in applications is kind of slow, it's how our justice system works not just for this particular matter and that reality sucks but you've got a slight quicker process when you've got money. Really here, money matters and moves processes.

So you are from Philippines. I personally sometimes mix up that country with Indonesia, both have a relatively high muslin population and are in the Pacific ocean.

Also, do not be surprised money is something which is used there to accelerate legal processes, it is basically the same here in Venezuela, if not worse. It is a symptom of a corrupted system, in my opinion.

Traditionally, here family has been viewed like one of the most important components of society, but divorce is something which is not stigmatized as much as previous years.

[blockman]

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So you are from Philippines. I personally sometimes mix up that country with Indonesia, both have a relatively high muslin population and are in the Pacific ocean.

Yes, I am. That's fine, we do always get that impression from other regions and in fact, we've got some words that are exactly as they are or close to its sound.

Also, do not be surprised money is something which is used there to accelerate legal processes, it is basically the same here in Venezuela, if not worse. It is a symptom of a corrupted system, in my opinion.

There's not that much difference, sad to say that justice system here as much as I want to respect and don't want to say an opinion that's gonna make it bad. But, that's what really it is.

Traditionally, here family has been viewed like one of the most important components of society, but divorce is something which is not stigmatized as much as previous years.

We're also people who love to take care of our family, we're family people, and as much as we want to take care of our families and keep it until we're gone. The culture setting is being changed based on what's happening in our society and that's why some laws are needed to be adopted and made just as the other countries.

[Alpha Marine]

From what I understand is that so many people don't get married because of love rather they get married because of lost and wealth or maybe because they need someone to help them out in their businesses or to take care of their kids when they give birth. If the reason why Mr A marries a woman and he no longer see that which attracted him to the woman anymore, he will ask for a divorce because he didn't marry because of love.

I don't agree that people divorce because they didn't marry for love.
I agree that there are people that marry for other reasons but marrying for love doesn't mean the marriage can't fail.
A lot of things can cause a marriage to end in divorce. It could be that they feel out of love with each other, or things just didn't work out. It may be poor communication, infidelity, the nature of the job, domestic violence, etc. A lot of different things.

Aside from the effect that divorce has on kids, I don't see anything wrong with ending a marriage. If you're no longer happy in the marriage I don't see a point to continue if you both feel there's no way to work things out.
I can't advise a lady that is always been beaten by her husband to remain in that marriage simply because marriage is a union or whatever. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is to work away.

[Koceila]

I think it's both of them, it is a contract because you have to approve things in your girl and she has to do the same because it is an union between two humans with different mentality and different thoughts, and different sex, so it's some of life contract.

[Gencecikmen]

I think too, marriage is both a union and a contract.There is no need to get married to unite. But marriage is required for the contract. Because society and the state do not recognize the contract without marriage. The state and society want us to marry for inheritance and other official rights. I think this situation creates pressure on couples.

[Ucy]

 Ofcourse, it's a Union... a union of the opposite gender🔺🔻to become one body/flesh ♦️.  Replace the word Contract with Agreement or Covenant so the whole thing doesn't sound worldly.
The covenant is basically an agreement on how they will conduct themselves in the marriage, of which If the husband or wife or both fails to fulfill there will be conflict or disagreement.

The Content of the Covenant (both known and unknown) is this:
The husband is the Head (like a King) of the Family while the woman is basically the queen who submits to the Head. The King's office or throne is established in Righteousness, or better still the king rules the family Righteously or according to GOD's Law which is the law of love for GOD and people(love for wife & children especially).
Treat the family right/good always as love does no wrong. Do not cause your subject or family to do evil. The wife or family member has the right to disobey evil commands from the husband, like wise the husband. But this should be done with respect for the one in leadership position (or the one who despises evil). The head is expected to reciprocate the respect to the responsible wife but if he doesn't, he may not deserve more respect... This doesn't mean he should be insulted, disrespected or dishonored(synonym of respect is honor)... Just let him know his high moral standard is what you loved and bowed to...maybe that will encourage him to continue in that standard. Respect = to have high regards for the righteous, elderly, leaders, the wise, in humble manner... Basically respect is for people who do things the way those in higher position are supposed to do them. And that way has to be right/good.
If the husband and wife do things right then the marriage covenant is not broken and the union last long in love & harmony.  Conflict or disagreement should be settled according to the law... Better still use the law to know and correct what caused the issue or conflict.

[kotajikikox]

This is because of wrong understanding of what Love is , some mistaken Lust and Intimacy into love in which two different cases , Heart and sex is not the same lol.

Marriage should be a Union and for me there must be no contract at all because a true couple that loves each others and understand the meaning of what they are entering needs no Contract to be bonded but only needs feelings and mind to process the relationship .

[D-law]

The rate at which we hear of divorce cases this days around the world is heart breaking. Particularly in the western world. What could be the main reason for this menace in our society. It's a menace because  when children are involved, they will be the one to suffer divided attention even though the law forces the parents to pay for their support. The question will then be: is financial  support all that it is to raising children?

If these divorces  are base on the way its viewed as a contract then it must have an end surely  because no contract last for a life time. However,  if marriage is look upon as union based on religious belief, then there a bidding involve. Ironic bonding transform the individuals to one flesh. So, if any party think of divorce, they will as well reflect on the impact it would have on themselves. Can you separate yourself?

Divorce has appeared to be seen as a norm especially in the western part of the world which shouldn’t be completely seen as a menace because a-times it could happen for good reason. A divorce can and should only go through if any one of the parties involve themselves in infidelity, domestic violence or if the marriage was an arranged marriage… courting is really the foundation of any successful marriage

[boyptc]

Divorce has appeared to be seen as a norm especially in the western part of the world which shouldn’t be completely seen as a menace because a-times it could happen for good reason. A divorce can and should only go through if any one of the parties involve themselves in infidelity, domestic violence or if the marriage was an arranged marriage… courting is really the foundation of any successful marriage

There are grounds for it.

But what's sad is that divorce is being used by those that are just into tasting period of their lives. They might be into a serious relationship but then, you know when someone fall out of love, this is where it is going.

I agree to the grounds and reasons that divorce can be valid with those reasons for in both agrees that they're no longer happy to each other's side.

[cute nmp]

Marriage according to my religion and culture is a union but in other countries especially the western part it is usually regard to as a contract. So it varies among different people ,countries, culture and religion.

[ineedhelpplease]

Marriage, well. That depends on if you love your wife or not. If you don't then it will feel like a contract far more than a union.

[Natsuu]

Marriage, well. That depends on if you love your wife or not. If you don't then it will feel like a contract far more than a union.

I think so too. Imagine marriage as a mix of legal stuff, like sharing assets and responsibilities, and an emotional bond where you've got a teammate for life. It's like signing a contract to be both business partners and each other's support crew.

[bitterguy28]

A contract and Union that we must stick on .

A Contract because we have vowed to be together all your life , for better or worst sickness and health and till death  do you part.

But also a Union that Love must conquer everything that mentioned above.

[rodskee]

If there is a love then that is Union because the relationship runs with heart.

If this is about Money/lust then this is just a contract that bonded only by the desire and wanting.

so Check you marriage if what do you stand on it.

[spectre71]

I really like the idea of a traditional old world value marriage.

However here in the US that idea is largely dead and as a male it's highly biased against the man.

It's over here, don't do it.

[myowngcs.com]

I see Marriage as a union, where you complete your partner and vice versa.

To fall in love and to love with all your senses and from the deep bottom of your heart is priceless.

Marriage is great but it all depends on your partner, did you chose him/her well?

The answer may seem simple, but it's not.

[kotajikikox]

I see Marriage as a union, where you complete your partner and vice versa.

To fall in love and to love with all your senses and from the deep bottom of your heart is priceless.

Marriage is great but it all depends on your partner, did you chose him/her well?

The answer may seem simple, but it's not.

Exactly , better choose the right one and not just the random person that we fell inlove but what about them? do they love us back as much as we do?
because sometimes we  thought this is the one but suddenly we don't and ending us either separated or not treating each others right when time passed by.

I really like the idea of a traditional old world value marriage.

However here in the US that idea is largely dead and as a male it's highly biased against the man.

It's over here, don't do it.

so it is Union as well?

[ARTOIS]

The true meaning of marriage is an eternal connection between a man and a woman to establish a family because they were created to complet each other, to complete their lives under one roof in solidarity in all circumstances. This is what was called marriage in the past, but in our time the values ​​and principles have changed and everyone is taking this step without realizing it. Because of the responsibility that both parties must bear, the divorce rate has become high. Selfishness, thinking about oneself, and making irresponsible decisions are the reason.

[johnsaributua]

The function of marriage is to unite two people, make a life together and create offspring to continue the family lineage and reputation that may be passed down through generations. Until it does not stop at that generation and continues to renew. Maintaining marriage is a shared responsibility to practice emotional detachment, benefit with a harmonious attitude and do it every day, I don't agree if marriage is only considered as a game because when there is a problem it must be resolved together and not raise each other. purely from the give and take of love, giving advice and receiving advice and complementing each other.

If there are people here who are not married, then get married because it's not that bad, I mean the economy is a reason and an important factor but that doesn't mean having the economy has a mature eel that can keep the integrity. the divorce rate may be high in an area but more people keep the marriage well. A little problem that arises is natural, the most important thing is to be able to make peace with the situation and continue living together as usual, not a matter of age but a matter of mindset.