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September 20, 2023, 11:17:46 AM
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So I read a thread on the forum by Ultegra134 that talked about renewable energy and he asked;

"The big question here is, can the world be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources? How can that be achieved and are they sustainable?"

The thing is, according to several studies and experts, it is possible for the world to be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources such as solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, and biomass. However, this would require a major transition of the current energy system, which is mostly based on fossil fuels that are non-renewable and contribute to climate change.

Some of the challenges and barriers to achieving this goal are technical, economic, social, and political. For example, renewable energy sources are often variable and intermittent, meaning they depend on natural conditions that are not always predictable or stable. This requires a reliable and flexible grid system that can balance supply and demand, as well as storage technologies that can store excess energy for later use.

Another challenge is the cost of renewable energy technologies and infrastructure, which may be higher than fossil fuels in some cases. However, many studies have shown that the benefits of renewable energy outweigh the costs in the long term, as they reduce greenhouse gas emissions, air pollution, health impacts, and dependence on imported fuels. Moreover, renewable energy can create more jobs and stimulate economic growth.

A third challenge is the social and political acceptance of renewable energy, which may face resistance from some groups or individuals who have vested interests in the fossil fuel industry or who are skeptical about climate change. To overcome this barrier, public awareness and education campaigns are needed to inform people about the benefits and feasibility of renewable energy, as well as policies and incentives that support its development and deployment.

In conclusion, it is possible for the world to be 100% dependent on renewable energy, but it would require a significant transformation of the current energy system and a collective effort from all stakeholders. Some countries and regions have already achieved or are close to achieving this goal, such as Iceland, Brazil, New Zealand’s South Island, Denmark’s Samsø island, and Germany’s Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Schleswig-Holstein regions. These examples show that 100% renewable energy is not only feasible but also desirable for a sustainable future.
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September 20, 2023, 02:27:51 PM
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Transforming the whole world into renewable energy will require massive groundwork and cooperation between various sectors of our society. This looks impossible to me because there are many countries whose economies are run by industries that require fossil fuels. Also, countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia will not like this idea because they earn lots of money by selling fossil fuels. It is not entirely impossible, and countries like Iceland, Brazil, Germany, and New Zealand are examples.

Renewable energy sources like geothermal, hydro, wind, and solar power run a country's economy by filling its electricity demands. So if the technologically advanced push forward is based on renewable energy fossil fuel exporters and importers will be forced to adapt to this new advancement.

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September 20, 2023, 03:24:31 PM
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A third challenge is the social and political acceptance of renewable energy, which may face resistance from some groups or individuals who have vested interests in the fossil fuel industry or who are skeptical about climate change. To overcome this barrier, public awareness and education campaigns are needed to inform people about the benefits and feasibility of renewable energy, as well as policies and incentives that support its development and deployment.
You have answered that query with a full explanation and I really liked that you have spent that much time writing this post. But I think it would be great if you would share your answer (this one) in that thread (the one you mentioned). You can quote it there. Besides that, I can not agree more with the challenges you have aforementioned.

But I would like to mention that, governments and financial systems of each country have different solutions to this challenge (third one). They have created an environment for the whole country that now left citizens no option other than shifting to renewable energy sources. That environment is known as high inflation.

The cost of electricity is so high in our country that, people are now spending funds to buy Solar panels and shifting towards renewable resources. Because that costs less than paying huge electricity bills here.

In short, people if start to buy or move to renewable resources at the individual level then a country might adopt 100% energy from RS.

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September 20, 2023, 03:47:40 PM
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Transition to renewable energy would require a lot, and this is an understatement. Even without even considering if the powerful people would accept these changes. It is possible if there's only one leader on the planet by that time, and he lives up to 200 years. BUT let us say all countries agreed to transform the world to become renewable energy dependent, for sure there will be a model country, a small country that has cheap labor and materials more probably around Asia, then other countries will follow, and so on.

Would this be worth after all if we used non-renewable energy to transform into a renewable energy-dependent world? coz I think for sure that's going to be our only one option to build it.
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September 20, 2023, 03:51:37 PM
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Transforming the whole world into renewable energy will require massive groundwork and cooperation between various sectors of our society. This looks impossible to me because there are many countries whose economies are run by industries that require fossil fuels. Also, countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia will not like this idea because they earn lots of money by selling fossil fuels. It is not entirely impossible, and countries like Iceland, Brazil, Germany, and New Zealand are examples.

These countries do not rely entirely on clean energies only, and the reason is mainly technical, because the cost of establishing stations to generate these clean energies will far exceed the cost of using fossil energy. Also, the important point is that these countries have an important part of their economic fabric that depends on companies operating in the field of fossil energy, and it would not be in the interest of those countries to stop the activity of those companies or limit it in any way.
It is not an impossible task for the world to succeed by relying only on clean energies, but the main problem today is disengaging from the current system.
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September 20, 2023, 03:54:58 PM
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A third challenge is the social and political acceptance of renewable energy, which may face resistance from some groups or individuals who have vested interests in the fossil fuel industry or who are skeptical about climate change. To overcome this barrier, public awareness and education campaigns are needed to inform people about the benefits and feasibility of renewable energy, as well as policies and incentives that support its development and deployment.
You have answered that query with a full explanation and I really liked that you have spent that much time writing this post. But I think it would be great if you would share your answer (this one) in that thread (the one you mentioned). You can quote it there. Besides that, I can not agree more with the challenges you have aforementioned.

But I would like to mention that, governments and financial systems of each country have different solutions to this challenge (third one). They have created an environment for the whole country that now left citizens no option other than shifting to renewable energy sources. That environment is known as high inflation.

The cost of electricity is so high in our country that, people are now spending funds to buy Solar panels and shifting towards renewable resources. Because that costs less than paying huge electricity bills here.

In short, people if start to buy or move to renewable resources at the individual level then a country might adopt 100% energy from RS.

It'll be difficult for everyone to move fully into renewable energy, as the means of getting these energy resources isn't cheap. A lot of people living off grid use renewable energy, yet not all can afford its maintenance. Let's take solar for instance, most times the battery get weak, even after charging for a long time. The inverter still need electric energy to be charged completely, which can enable it to power big house facilities like fridge, Tv etc. Electricity bill is expensive, but it remains the best form of energy. Renewable energy is fine, but the question of 100% usage isn't guaranteed. Hence, if the government sponsor such things for her citizens it'll be another form of tax and bills, which is not encouraged. Renewable energy, with its disadvantages, is best sponsored individually. I've seen lots of solar powered house owners complaining about panels malfunctioning or having to add more panels often times to power more facilities. The advantage is great, at least constant electricity, in our homes and no need for fuel to power anything. In countries, where the sun intensity is high, solar energy can solve great problems for users. I'm only concerned about the maintenance aspect of it, thereby requiring extra funding from the users.

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September 20, 2023, 04:29:22 PM
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Transforming the whole world into renewable energy will require massive groundwork and cooperation between various sectors of our society. This looks impossible to me because there are many countries whose economies are run by industries that require fossil fuels. Also, countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia will not like this idea because they earn lots of money by selling fossil fuels. It is not entirely impossible, and countries like Iceland, Brazil, Germany, and New Zealand are examples.

These countries do not rely entirely on clean energies only, and the reason is mainly technical, because the cost of establishing stations to generate these clean energies will far exceed the cost of using fossil energy. Also, the important point is that these countries have an important part of their economic fabric that depends on companies operating in the field of fossil energy, and it would not be in the interest of those countries to stop the activity of those companies or limit it in any way.
It is not an impossible task for the world to succeed by relying only on clean energies, but the main problem today is disengaging from the current system.

Thats why i have said there will be a lot of ground work and cooperation between various parties.

costing for establish a solar panels has fallen 80% from 2010 and in some part of the region its cost effective than the coal powered energy source. In united states levelized cost of electricity for solar PV is $27 per MWh, for wind its $25 per MWh, for nuclear $29 per MWh when this rate for coal is $42 per MWh.

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September 20, 2023, 04:45:28 PM
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Everyone has their opinion. Here is mine about renewable energy that many people may not like at all. It’s not possible to make earth 100% dependent on renewable energy because we have disturbed the climate so much that water has risen above its normal range. There are hundreds to thousands small to big disasters happening around the world that create disturbance in the daily routine.

Whether it is mega natural disaster like tsunami to Hot temperatures causing wild fires or heavy deadly rains inland. Everything is destroying that natural cycle and disturbing the way we can produce green energies. That’s really a question that should have been worked out hundred years ago but we didn’t.
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September 20, 2023, 05:36:19 PM
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Transition to renewable energy would require a lot, and this is an understatement. Even without even considering if the powerful people would accept these changes. It is possible if there's only one leader on the planet by that time, and he lives up to 200 years. BUT let us say all countries agreed to transform the world to become renewable energy dependent, for sure there will be a model country, a small country that has cheap labor and materials more probably around Asia, then other countries will follow, and so on.
I don't really understand your point here, what do you mean by the statement of a leader who is 200 years old and a single leader of this planet? What, and how does that make the people of this planet adopt and depend on or move onto renewable energy sources? If you are saying that a single entity could make this happen because the situation and financial situations in different countries are not the same.

That's why not every country would spend the amount on adopting renewable sources instead of non--renewable.
Would this be worth after all if we used non-renewable energy to transform into a renewable energy-dependent world? coz I think for sure that's going to be our only one option to build it.
No, I mean what's the benefit of using non-renewable sources to make renewable sources? And we cannot do that, because that would be stupid. I think you don't really understand the real meaning of renewable sources. These are the sources that are found from natural sources that cost us nothing. Like from sunlight and from air. etc.

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September 20, 2023, 05:43:36 PM
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Let's be very honest it would take so long for the world to run on renewable source of energy. Renewable source of energy does not come cheap and also it's not as abundant in nature like our regular source of energy, yes we would have mega cites in developed countries leading the way in renewable source of energy in the coming years but there are countries still developing that doesn't have the capacity to run on renewable source of energy and that's not to even bring sustaining it into the context.


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September 20, 2023, 06:19:59 PM
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So many things are to be done if they are going in this direction. Flying a plane is next to impossible if they are to use renewable energy.

African countries are just starting their industrialization. Are the nations that once polluted this world going to stop them from industrializing their country and manufacturing things they need?  They are the ones who are rich in crude oil. With so much oil to use, they can go to war with just it.

This is where Energy means Power. A country with no source of Energy will be colonized and will soon be the next slaves in the next 100 years.

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So many things are to be done if they are going in this direction. Flying a plane is next to impossible if they are to use renewable energy.

African countries are just starting their industrialization. Are the nations that once polluted this world going to stop them from industrializing their country and manufacturing things they need?  They are the ones who are rich in crude oil. With so much oil to use, they can go to war with just it.

This is where Energy means Power. A country with no source of Energy will be colonized and will soon be the next slaves in the next 100 years.

In principle, you're right. Renewable energy - despite its vigorous promotion - is unlikely to beat conventional means of generating energy. The market monopolists simply won't let it happen. Yes, some part of the market is quite possible, but not the whole energy market
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September 20, 2023, 06:42:26 PM
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Transforming the whole world into renewable energy will require massive groundwork and cooperation between various sectors of our society. This looks impossible to me because there are many countries whose economies are run by industries that require fossil fuels. Also, countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia will not like this idea because they earn lots of money by selling fossil fuels. It is not entirely impossible, and countries like Iceland, Brazil, Germany, and New Zealand are examples.

These countries do not rely entirely on clean energies only, and the reason is mainly technical, because the cost of establishing stations to generate these clean energies will far exceed the cost of using fossil energy. Also, the important point is that these countries have an important part of their economic fabric that depends on companies operating in the field of fossil energy, and it would not be in the interest of those countries to stop the activity of those companies or limit it in any way.
It is not an impossible task for the world to succeed by relying only on clean energies, but the main problem today is disengaging from the current system.

Thats why i have said there will be a lot of ground work and cooperation between various parties.

It is ironic that some of the countries that have succeeded in achieving a policy of complete reliance on clean energies have the largest companies specialized in fossil energy at various stages of industrialization. No, it has also established solar and wind farms in countries whose climate allows for this more than others, and then transports them to them, even though the countries that have these farms suffer from major energy crises.
It is a brutal global system that encourages thinking and acting individually, and therefore, partnership between various global parties to make the planet clean and dependent on green energy is just illusions, and there are no indications that this may change soon.
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It'll be difficult for everyone to move fully into renewable energy, as the means of getting these energy resources isn't cheap. A lot of people living off grid use renewable energy, yet not all can afford its maintenance. Let's take solar for instance, most times the battery get weak, even after charging for a long time. The inverter still need electric energy to be charged completely, which can enable it to power big house facilities like fridge, Tv etc. Electricity bill is expensive, but it remains the best form of energy. Renewable energy is fine, but the question of 100% usage isn't guaranteed. Hence, if the government sponsor such things for her citizens it'll be another form of tax and bills, which is not encouraged. Renewable energy, with its disadvantages, is best sponsored individually. I've seen lots of solar powered house owners complaining about panels malfunctioning or having to add more panels often times to power more facilities. The advantage is great, at least constant electricity, in our homes and no need for fuel to power anything. In countries, where the sun intensity is high, solar energy can solve great problems for users. I'm only concerned about the maintenance aspect of it, thereby requiring extra funding from the users.
This is right what I have in mind. Transition everyone to renewable energy is difficult. The idea of renewable energy and its advantages to people are good but not everyone can carry the cost, that the maintenance that is needed after the initial installation. Also to add this is not even cheap to come by depending on whichever part of the world you are in. In the country where I reside, one of the ways to get people to transition into renewable sources of energy for their homes and businesses is if there is a lot of competition in the market and could help to drive its cost down for the average person to buy it.

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September 20, 2023, 08:21:16 PM
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So many things are to be done if they are going in this direction. Flying a plane is next to impossible if they are to use renewable energy.

African countries are just starting their industrialization. Are the nations that once polluted this world going to stop them from industrializing their country and manufacturing things they need?  They are the ones who are rich in crude oil. With so much oil to use, they can go to war with just it.

This is where Energy means Power. A country with no source of Energy will be colonized and will soon be the next slaves in the next 100 years.

In principle, you're right. Renewable energy - despite its vigorous promotion - is unlikely to beat conventional means of generating energy. The market monopolists simply won't let it happen. Yes, some part of the market is quite possible, but not the whole energy market

However, it is still best to try tapping the renewable energy market as you will have a very good alternative if we run out of fossil fuels or other nonrenewable energies.
This will give an edge for the government which will explore their other energy opportunities.
This type of energy may not cover the need of their overall consumption but definitely, it will have an impact in their economy if developed continuously.
And also, their people may get inspired of supporting the program by installing their own solar panels or wind turbines or other possible renewable energy source which is readily available in their area.
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September 20, 2023, 08:39:42 PM
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When renewable energy would have gained massive adoption, would be when it can power mining farms comfortably and sustainably.
Well, that's if the conventional means of generating electricity like coal, fossil energy, fail to live up to their functions or deliver efficiently and they keep being more expensive to afford following the worsening economy.

I have been thinking of investment in renewable energy large scale since I saw a video on social media about how salt water was used to make lanterns glow. If more renewable energy is developed by adapting the designs to fit the environmental resources, in no time, renewable energy will have become more than adopted in many homes, offices and industries. It has a promising future I must conclude.

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It is such a sad fact to know that the world would be a better place all around about everything if we just focused on renewable energy, and yet we are not. This isn't just about clean air or better climate or anything like that, that is the part which would be the most important regarding this and we should be able to focus on that as much as we possibly could. However, the fact that governments are giving subsidies that are multiple times more to oil and gas companies than they do to renewable energy when you calculate the history of it, you will realize that if we could do that, there would be thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, hell maybe even hundreds of thousands of jobs if we do it big enough. That alone is also good and not related to environment, but aside from that we would have income, which means not only all those thousands of people would earn, but the owners of those places would earn significantly as well, and could sell it to overseas, or at least nation could stop buying from overseas and spend within. Its just all around much better idea when you look at it.

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This can be possible in limited countries, throughout the world it is really impossible. Different countries have got different weather conditions and we can't expect nature to favour us all the time. With the advanced technology it is possible to keep track of things, however on need we might not be able to get the required energy. Every form of energy can't be effective all the time. More countries rely on oil for their economy, and for those countries renewable energy seems to be an expensive way than using oil source for their needs. Future will be on renewable energy, but it doesn't assure with complete replacement.

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So I read a thread on the forum by Ultegra134 that talked about renewable energy and he asked;

"The big question here is, can the world be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources? How can that be achieved and are they sustainable?"
Renewable energy source are indeed sustainable, and those can only be achieved with the help of the government in power, since they are a bit expensive but durable, so as to help make life better for the common man in the society. Because just as we have the likes of Solar light (i.e whereby it uses Sunlight to generate electricity) and Solar cars (which also uses Sunlight to enable movement from one place to another), if those can be reproduced in large quantities, you will notices that such will make life easier for the common man in the society.

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The narrative that switching to renewable energies is going to be a very expensive ordeal is nothing but propaganda spread by fossil fuel companies to discourage people and countries from ever looking at renewable resources as a good alternative or replacement. Studies have been made in the past that specifically states no jobs nor careers will be displaced from the switch to renewable resources, and of course, while the switch will cost large amounts of money, they are sustainable enough that in a few span of years they could easily pay off themselves from the profits that this will yield, all of this with the added benefit of not destroying the environment at the same damn time.
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