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September 26, 2023, 08:57:14 PM
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people keep saying: people should read the casinos' TOS, people agreed to the casinos' TOS. I also agree that it is necessary to read the casinos' TOS before creating an account, but we also need to understand and not ignore the fact that some casinos say here on the forum that they do not ask for KYC unless some suspicious activity is detected, so people they create an account at the casino and play with peace of mind, but when they want to withdraw the casino asks for kyc and obviously the customer will refuse to do kyc because the casino did not show proof that he (the customer) was involved in any suspicious activity. us here on the forum when a person appears accusing another member or when a person appears here on the forum accusing a casino

The first thing that all members do is post asking the guy who created the thread accusing the casino to post evidence and when he doesn't post evidence everyone ignores him and accuses him of being a liar, but strangely enough, if the casino appears in that person's thread and Accusing cheating and suspicious activities no one will ask the casino for proof, people immediately believe the casino. I keep asking myself why does this happen? As if this weren't already something serious enough to leave anyone who had an account blocked, we also see the following in the casinos' TOS: the casino reserves the right to change the TOS at any time and day without prior notice

I ask: a person will read in the TOS that the bonus will be 100% of the deposit and then they only need kyc level 1. Then the person sees that it is a good TOS and creates an account thinking that they are in a good casino, but 30 days later the person has created an account, deposited money, done kyc level 2 and met all bonus requirements, the time comes to withdraw and they refuse, and when he asks support why withdrawal is not being allowed, support tells him that in the TOS You have to go through kyc level 2 to withdraw. So, was it really worth reading the TOS?
When an accusation rises then possible angles would really be something that needs to be checked, plus we know that there are accusations which turns out to be fake and obviously trying out to take down other competitions here on this market place and this is why they kind of fake claims are common but we know that majority of those are really that legit or something real. This is the beauty on having this kind of community on which everyone could really be able to make their words and insights towards on a certain situation whether its not fair or totally shady or really just that right for a certain user to suffer because of violating something.
If you do really have hindrance about with those sudden requirement on the time that you are making some withdrawal specially huge amounts then it would be always ideal and sensible thing to be done for you to stick
into those places which are reputable or long time known within this community and wont really be putting or touching up your feet into those new platforms.

Im aint saying that new ones would really be considered or automatically be treated to be non-fair but it would really be that always a bad idea if you do put up or deposit huge
amounts specially on a new platform. Always consider on testing out waters first before you would really be depositing huge. As for TOS reading then everyone or almost 100%
of gamblers do really ignore on reading that huge pile of text until they would realize that they had missed out something when issues arises.

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September 26, 2023, 09:14:21 PM
 #102

In fact, the reason why the rules and conditions are shared in such long texts may be due to the fact that gamblers are lazy. Or, as you say, because it contains conditions that will not be ignored. It should actually be requested that the sites should not put it on the site without reading it, but this event does not care much because it suits the sites.

Many gamblers are lazy and of course this is the mistake of gamblers who never read the rules and regulations in full so they don't know what is allowed or not. I just don't read it sometimes. Related to this, all the regulations made by all casinos are almost the same, only there are some that are specific, such as which countries are allowed or not to access casinos.
Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.

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September 27, 2023, 08:19:32 PM
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A player not reading the platform's Terms and Condition will often ends up in misunderstanding. Gamblers should know that every casino have their own terms and conditions so assuming that the tos of a casino is the same as the other casinos may end up in a problem.  This may result in the delay of withdrawal of funds to loss of funds of the gambler like being unable to withdraw because he has to provide KYC, or his account is banned due to the illegal use of VPN.
There is no point of misunderstanding anything if they don't even understand things in the first place. When you are getting into a contract and don't even read the rules or the statements involved, you basically don't understand anything about the contract except for the things that you might have heard about it from others.

A gambler should always verify his assumptions through reading the casinos ToS and through inquiries of things stated on the terms of service to verify something that the gambler does not understand.
I don't think someone needs to verify any information that they get from the terms and conditions unless they find something that actually contradicts another statement made by the casino somewhere else.

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October 02, 2023, 04:39:04 PM
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.

The gambler should not do any small mistake like this to lose their money in the gambling.If the gambling site is the good one and the account was banned by the gambling sites because of the mistake made by the gambler.So the gambler should take some time to read the rules mentioned by the gambling sites,then the gambler should play the gambling without the VPN.The gambler should check the gambling site background verification and reviews made by the old games on that sites.This all help the gambler to avoid of loss money in the gambling sites.

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October 04, 2023, 02:48:06 PM
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I have read a lot of gambling threads both here on the forum and in other forums. This makes me to draw the conclusion that most gamblers are either too lazy to read the Terms and Conditions (T&C,)or they don't just care about it. The results of which leads to misunderstandings and frustrations, often resulting in negative reviews and complaints that may not accurately represent the casino's practices.
It might be better for casino to begin rebuild their site and put that Terms and Conditions on top page. because we've seen it all this time the casino put their rule on bottom page, and sometime located in a close place which is invisible to the gambler eye. I don't know why, maybe the developer casino still create the unclear rule so the gambler may not have to read it, so if that something happens, the casino will take blame the gambler. With this situation, we can't just blame the gambler on one side, maybe the fault is also on the casino's side.
There might be an explanation for this, and this is where old sites started, so maybe they just go with the tradition? Besides it's actually better is if at the top/center is the title of the website and some other important details on its sides. I know TAC is also important but don't forget it was being showed right before we clicked that sign up button right after we fill the sign up forms.

We should read it by there for fck sake but nope we didn't because we find the wall of text intimidating. It's not the casino are the ones who put a blame but it was actually the gamblers who did it. Almost everyday there are complaint threads that we can found here in our forum.

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August 22, 2024, 08:26:09 PM
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I have to admit that I almost never read T&C. I know how casinos operate and I follow good reviews. I check for scam accusations against the casino and all that, but I only scan their rules, mainly points about VPN, countries that are banned and such.

It can be called a global phenomenon because I am almost certain that the vast majority of those registered on gambling platforms do not read the terms of use and do not pay attention to them. Some smart people will go to the forums to ask about Kyc terms or withdrawal fees only.

In this case we cannot blame the platform system if it freezes an account that violates the stipulated terms of use, but it must also be pointed out that some platforms take advantage of users’ negligence to change the terms of use without notice or even with notice as long as everyone does not read. Also, what is happening gives the green light for the platforms to manipulate these conditions and thus manipulate the balances and accounts of users.

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August 22, 2024, 08:35:25 PM
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I have to admit that I almost never read T&C. I know how casinos operate and I follow good reviews. I check for scam accusations against the casino and all that, but I only scan their rules, mainly points about VPN, countries that are banned and such.

It can be called a global phenomenon because I am almost certain that the vast majority of those registered on gambling platforms do not read the terms of use and do not pay attention to them. Some smart people will go to the forums to ask about Kyc terms or withdrawal fees only.

In this case we cannot blame the platform system if it freezes an account that violates the stipulated terms of use, but it must also be pointed out that some platforms take advantage of users’ negligence to change the terms of use without notice or even with notice as long as everyone does not read. Also, what is happening gives the green light for the platforms to manipulate these conditions and thus manipulate the balances and accounts of users.

First, you should really be avoiding about posting up on threads on which its been long time inactive or there's no discussions about it because this is something that it is really that against on forum rules
in regarding about necroposting. As you can see the date above is since last year and there's no sense on opening up again. Somehow there might be some exemptions in continuing about discussion but
it would really be neither if there would really be no other threads in correlated to it. I dont know on whats other approach in regarding to this.



Going back into the topic about someone who do able to make some violation about terms and conditions then it would really be that understandable that the casino would be having the full rights on
the things that they would really be gonna doing on which we know that its been stated on the first place and this is why it would really be that normal that they would really be acting
and made out decisions basing up into those agreements. As a gambler then you would really be having those kind of argument that those TOS might changed up or something or they havent been able to read.
Actually there would really be that possibilities too for it to be true but it would be hard to contest it if you are really that against on a known or reputable casino platform.

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4. Accuse the casino of being responsible for ruining their lives and their gambling addiction.

What other negative reviews do gamblers give to casinos when they fail to familiarize themselves with the T&C of the casino?
Yes, it's true that the rest 8 points you gave above are actually reviews and claims people make when they fail to familiarize with the Casino terms and conditions, but this very one I highlighted above, I'm still finding it difficult to understand how is not familiarizing with a Casino's terms and condition makes it responsible for ruining people's lives and cause of gambling addiction? Because I'm yet to understand how such claimed is been made, Or does it mean that by reading a casino terms and conditions, it will stop people from getting addicted? That is, are we to say that the people who are addicted to gambling is simply because they did not read the casino they gambled on it's terms and conditions?

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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.

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If the gambler has failed to understand the T&Cs set by the casino, then Complaints and negative accusations will definitely arise due to ignorance or lack of understanding of the rules that have been agreed upon from the start.

For example, a gambler may feel cheated or treated unfairly because they do not know certain requirements that must be met before making a withdrawal. They may also be frustrated with the KYC process, not realizing that this is a standard procedure to protect security and prevent fraud.

They continue to throw out various negative reviews about the casino, and accuse them of things that are not true, when in fact, many of these problems arise from a lack of understanding of how the casino system works.

Understanding the T&Cs is not only about avoiding problems, but also about ensuring a better gambling experience, so it would be good Before you start playing, you take the time to read and understand the applicable rules, so you can gamble more calmly and responsibly.

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August 22, 2024, 09:06:44 PM
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I have read a lot of gambling threads both here on the forum and in other forums. This makes me to draw the conclusion that most gamblers are either too lazy to read the Terms and Conditions (T&C,)or they don't just care about it. The results of which leads to misunderstandings and frustrations, often resulting in negative reviews and complaints that may not accurately represent the casino's practices. It is too bad. I have noticed that when gamblers don't read the T&S of a casino, they :



What other negative reviews do gamblers give to casinos when they fail to familiarize themselves with the T&C of the casino?


We'll I think all you've said now might not be 100% true but it all drawas to the conclusion that gamblers MUST read through casinos terms and conditions to avoid stories that touches the heart,most times there can be a change in the game or any criteria how do you get to know that is only when you've read the T&C of the casino.

It's just like a guidelines and sure it is,like when they want you to do KYC verification,you'll know all of this and more when you must have gone through it,so it's definitely a must to do so to be on the safer ends.

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August 23, 2024, 05:47:15 PM
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.
I think this is convenient for most of us who do not have the patience to read and comprehend voluminous terms and conditions. Every serious gambler knows what he expects from a casino, seeking for those specific details even through reviews from other gamblers or from searching on the casino site will save lot of time.

Some casinos too can be very tricky.  Even with their terms and conditions which might be somehow lenient, they will still default in offering good services to their customers. That's why, I do not haven’t full confidence in a casino's published offers, terms and conditions. After checking for what I want from their site, I still lookout for what other gamblers who has patronized them, think about them.

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4. Accuse the casino of being responsible for ruining their lives and their gambling addiction.

What other negative reviews do gamblers give to casinos when they fail to familiarize themselves with the T&C of the casino?
Yes, it's true that the rest 8 points you gave above are actually reviews and claims people make when they fail to familiarize with the Casino terms and conditions, but this very one I highlighted above, I'm still finding it difficult to understand how is not familiarizing with a Casino's terms and condition makes it responsible for ruining people's lives and cause of gambling addiction? Because I'm yet to understand how such claimed is been made, Or does it mean that by reading a casino terms and conditions, it will stop people from getting addicted? That is, are we to say that the people who are addicted to gambling is simply because they did not read the casino they gambled on it's terms and conditions?
It is natural thing to happen because humans will never be able to bear their own mistakes and truly accept the mistakes they have made, there will be other parties who are targeted as an outlet to release their emotions.
But that is not good attitude considering blaming other parties for their own mistakes and especially giving negative reviews of the casino, this is really pretty silly attitude and may seem very excessive.

If it is about gambling addiction, I don't think it will have anything to do with the casino terms and conditions, so far I have never found any gamblers who really blame the casino for the gambling addiction they have suffered.
If there is, maybe it is when the gambler gets financial problems because he loses large amount and has to feel the difficulty of restoring life in the economy normally as before.

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August 24, 2024, 04:08:02 AM
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If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.
besides that I am sure most people are lazy to read long texts. especially if they have a certain desire or goal that usually makes them impatient so they skip several steps or phases that they should understand first. it is not strange if there is a problem with gambling that is done if they ignore the conditions that the casino applies because they could accidentally do something that is actually not permitted by the casino and will be a problem.

when we have read the terms and conditions that exist, it is unlikely that we will get problems in the middle of the gambling that we do, but some people who ignore the terms and conditions sometimes they don't get problems, but with those who already understand it well it may be safer than not understanding it at all. the comfort of gambling that is done depends on ourselves, what it was like at first if we initially ignored a lot of things that the casino thinks are important, problems could occur and vice versa.

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August 24, 2024, 05:23:42 AM
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1. Accuse the casino of trying to scam them.
Casinos don't scam people except it's a scam site. That's why people need to do some research before involving in any casino.

2. Accuse the casino of unjustly suspending or blocking their account.
Casinos can only block a person account if the person has made mistake with several attempts of a particular thing and refused to acknowledge he's doing the wrong thing and refused to check the reason why a repeated attempt is not working.

3. Accuse the casino of not being transparent because they request KYC that they want to steal their personal information.
It's only a fool that will not know that any online account that deal with money, always request for kyc to be able to know their customers for security reasons.

In all you have listed, I just believe it's only a dummy ass that will not know the T&C of casinos.

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August 30, 2024, 08:43:59 PM
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If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.
besides that I am sure most people are lazy to read long texts. especially if they have a certain desire or goal that usually makes them impatient so they skip several steps or phases that they should understand first. it is not strange if there is a problem with gambling that is done if they ignore the conditions that the casino applies because they could accidentally do something that is actually not permitted by the casino and will be a problem.

when we have read the terms and conditions that exist, it is unlikely that we will get problems in the middle of the gambling that we do, but some people who ignore the terms and conditions sometimes they don't get problems, but with those who already understand it well it may be safer than not understanding it at all. the comfort of gambling that is done depends on ourselves, what it was like at first if we initially ignored a lot of things that the casino thinks are important, problems could occur and vice versa.
Even myself is really that guilty with this on which on the time that i do make out some registration on a new site then i would be always that not minding on reading up that whole long text and just directly
tick that check box and proceed. We are all surely guilty on this one and this is why on the moment that you would really be facing up some issues and it is really that correlated about terms and conditions
then it would really be normal that you would really be pointing out and blaming out but actually its really that your fault in regarding into this one. It is really that indeed common that we will really be
skipping out on reading these text and there's nothing we can do on the moment that they will really be emphasizing your own fault. So it will really be that a lesson learned for you.

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August 30, 2024, 08:49:37 PM
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.
I think this is convenient for most of us who do not have the patience to read and comprehend voluminous terms and conditions. Every serious gambler knows what he expects from a casino, seeking for those specific details even through reviews from other gamblers or from searching on the casino site will save lot of time.

Some casinos too can be very tricky.  Even with their terms and conditions which might be somehow lenient, they will still default in offering good services to their customers. That's why, I do not haven’t full confidence in a casino's published offers, terms and conditions. After checking for what I want from their site, I still lookout for what other gamblers who has patronized them, think about them.
It's very tricky indeed, because I believe a whole lot of persons in the gambling world don't actually have the strength and time to read and sometimes these casino might have even placed some tricky and additional rules added to make or benefits from either you making a fault at that especially when it comes to KYC verification. The simple truth is that if you want to avoid any error or regrets especially when dealing with a new casino then reading the TOS is one way of assuring proper guidance.

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August 30, 2024, 09:00:06 PM
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
If you look at how voluminous the terms and conditions for gambling sites are, it's enough reason for you to lose appetite for reading them. That's why most people fall into the trap of not knowing what's required and what they are to avoid when playing in a particular casino. 
 
What I normally do in most cases is to open the T&C, use search, and search for the keys that I want to read about, like minimum deposit, restricted countries, use of VPN, and methods of deposit that's not allowed. After I have checked all these ones, I can now boldly use the casino with little to no fear of violating any of the rules. I am not a high roller, so there is little to almost nothing for me to worry about.
I think this is convenient for most of us who do not have the patience to read and comprehend voluminous terms and conditions. Every serious gambler knows what he expects from a casino, seeking for those specific details even through reviews from other gamblers or from searching on the casino site will save lot of time.

Some casinos too can be very tricky.  Even with their terms and conditions which might be somehow lenient, they will still default in offering good services to their customers. That's why, I do not haven’t full confidence in a casino's published offers, terms and conditions. After checking for what I want from their site, I still lookout for what other gamblers who has patronized them, think about them.
It's very tricky indeed, because I believe a whole lot of persons in the gambling world don't actually have the strength and time to read and sometimes these casino might have even placed some tricky and additional rules added to make or benefits from either you making a fault at that especially when it comes to KYC verification. The simple truth is that if you want to avoid any error or regrets especially when dealing with a new casino then reading the TOS is one way of assuring proper guidance.
People who doesn't read the terms and conditions of a casino before registering don't have the patience to read them because they mostly think those terms and conditions are waste of time. And the worse part of it is that most a times they complain to the casino that they can't withdraw their money meanwhile they didn't follow the rules of the casino. However, I don't joke with terms and conditions because those are the important things to be aware of before smother things. Some gamblers don't even care to do their KYC before depositing on the casino and most cases they don't withdraw either because they might not have the requirements to pass the KYC process.

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August 30, 2024, 10:45:56 PM
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It's very tricky indeed, because I believe a whole lot of persons in the gambling world don't actually have the strength and time to read and sometimes these casino might have even placed some tricky and additional rules added to make or benefits from either you making a fault at that especially when it comes to KYC verification. The simple truth is that if you want to avoid any error or regrets especially when dealing with a new casino then reading the TOS is one way of assuring proper guidance.
Reputable casinos and those who want to build trust and reputation in the gambling industry won't even try that. I have read on some scam accusation cases where some casinos smuggle some policies that the gambler was sure was never their before they started using the casino, but the casino just has to smuggle it.
 
That type of behaviour is what new casinos and shady onces that don't want to pay gambling winnings carry out. If there's not any little change on the TOS, it should be passed as a notification to all customers for them to be aware of the change and take all necessary precautions.

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August 31, 2024, 02:31:50 AM
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Gamblers can sometimes make this mistake, but some rules are not important because they are not taken harshly. Frankly, I can't say that I read it when I gambled on different sites at the time, because I didn't think it would waste my time to read it and I didn't think there was a rule that affected me. I think there is no problem except not playing on a site that is prohibited.
that's the mistake, the majority of gamblers ignore some of the rules that the casino sets because they feel it is not so important so they ignore it is not strange if they experience problems with their accounts such as being frozen or locked by the casino, besides that gamblers will not feel guilty but sometimes when that happens they will try to communicate with the casino staff and ask and then ask for a solution to be able to get their account back, but sometimes things like this are not straightened out by the casino so players can do nothing but regret and feel annoyed and it could be that the gambler labels the casino he visited as having a bad reputation.
most gamblers or people who gamble are certainly lazy to read a text that is sometimes not too important, but actually things like what the casino has set in my opinion must be understood so that gambling is carried out safely and comfortably and also to minimize problems when gambling, many gamblers will read the rules when they experience problems with their gambling, I mean if it can be done at the beginning why not.

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