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September 22, 2023, 05:44:34 PM
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Generally, however, hate speech is any form of expression that discriminates against minorities by abusive or threatening speech. Although some countries define hate speech as speech or act that promotes violence.

However everyone has the right to freedom of expression and opinion, although freedom of speech is limited for the promotion of peace because it causes harm and disunity. Hate speech can cause physical harm to its victims when violence is involved and can also cause disunity.

The (CERD) committee on the elimination of racial discrimination was the first to address hate speech and the need to build regulation, prohibiting and provocative types of language. This committee intervene and yet hate speech still continue in our society today.

Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.
Although we are free to say what we want but we should avoid expressing an idea that threatens or insults association (hate speech)
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Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.

Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation. I would consider them arrogant because they really missed a great invention due to their own stupidity. Those days are long gone when people considered Bitcoin as a scam or something that can go zero in value anytime. Now most of the people accept the fact that Bitcoin is the future and many skeptical people have invested in Bitcoin.

Those people who promote lies about Bitcoin are mostly part of the corrupt system and they just hate the idea of decentralization. Bitcoin is their biggest enemy because it has allowed everyone to be free from the bondage of that centralized system. Most of the governments are against the concept of Bitcoin and decentralization because they want to control others and move them as puppets, but Bitcoin can free them from such bondage and that's why they hate Bitcoin and promote fake news about it.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with criminals because they have been there before Bitcoin and they will remain there forever. Most of the money launderers aren't laundering money via Bitcoin and if you view the statistics of money laundering and other crimes then you'll know that money launderers and other criminals mostly rely on fiat based system. Even if most of countries ban Bitcoin they still won't be able to suppress it because Bitcoin isn't against any country, it's a form of payment that allows everyone to trade goods without any interference from centralized authorities.

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Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.

Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation. I would consider them arrogant because they really missed a great invention due to their own stupidity. Those days are long gone when people considered Bitcoin as a scam or something that can go zero in value anytime. Now most of the people accept the fact that Bitcoin is the future and many skeptical people have invested in Bitcoin.

Those people who promote lies about Bitcoin are mostly part of the corrupt system and they just hate the idea of decentralization. Bitcoin is their biggest enemy because it has allowed everyone to be free from the bondage of that centralized system. Most of the governments are against the concept of Bitcoin and decentralization because they want to control others and move them as puppets, but Bitcoin can free them from such bondage and that's why they hate Bitcoin and promote fake news about it.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with criminals because they have been there before Bitcoin and they will remain there forever. Most of the money launderers aren't laundering money via Bitcoin and if you view the statistics of money laundering and other crimes then you'll know that money launderers and other criminals mostly rely on fiat based system. Even if most of countries ban Bitcoin they still won't be able to suppress it because Bitcoin isn't against any country, it's a form of payment that allows everyone to trade goods without any interference from centralized authorities.
Usually people who dont have that enough knowledge on what Bitcoin is are the ones who do really loves on throwing out those kind of negativity towards it.Some are already aware but they do fight and oppose just

because it didnt really fit out into their interest and this is why its not really that new anymore that there would really be that kind of argumentation in regarding about it.There's always those people who do really hate up Bitcoin no matter how good it is but well we do really have that freedom of speech on which we could really be able to say and hear out neither positive or negative but sooner or later those words would really be that changing up on the time that they had realized something. Just bare in mind that if there would really be those people who would really be that negative or opposition then we might be seeing
that almost full adoption and recognition now but we know that it cant really be possible as long that government exist.

We do really know on what government do really prepare which it would really be totally going against with those things which are decentralized. There are
even people who do much prefer on sticking with those traditional things instead.
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September 22, 2023, 07:18:27 PM
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Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation.
Since some people are quick to adopt what other people say without trying to find out reasons of their own, the hate speech may make some people never know what bitcoins really are. But the people that hate bitcoins are helping bitcoin in a way because anytime they express their hatred for bitcoins, people will always wonder why they hate the thing called bitcoin so much. They may indirectly be helping to tell people about bitcoins and raise the interest of people to want to know what bitcoins are.

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September 22, 2023, 09:19:32 PM
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Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.

Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation. I would consider them arrogant because they really missed a great invention due to their own stupidity. Those days are long gone when people considered Bitcoin as a scam or something that can go zero in value anytime. Now most of the people accept the fact that Bitcoin is the future and many skeptical people have invested in Bitcoin.

Those people who promote lies about Bitcoin are mostly part of the corrupt system and they just hate the idea of decentralization. Bitcoin is their biggest enemy because it has allowed everyone to be free from the bondage of that centralized system. Most of the governments are against the concept of Bitcoin and decentralization because they want to control others and move them as puppets, but Bitcoin can free them from such bondage and that's why they hate Bitcoin and promote fake news about it.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with criminals because they have been there before Bitcoin and they will remain there forever. Most of the money launderers aren't laundering money via Bitcoin and if you view the statistics of money laundering and other crimes then you'll know that money launderers and other criminals mostly rely on fiat based system. Even if most of countries ban Bitcoin they still won't be able to suppress it because Bitcoin isn't against any country, it's a form of payment that allows everyone to trade goods without any interference from centralized authorities.
Not everyone who doesn't believe in Bitcoin is stupid. For the same reason, we all can't like the same things. Even well-known economists have expressed a negative opinion about Bitcoin, and the opposite too, of course. It's not about stupidity, but its concept and idea don't apply to everyone, and everyone is subject to their own opinion, which they can voice. Thus, claiming that someone is ignorant or stupid for not supporting Bitcoin is a little bold statement to make.

However, it's true that the majority of governments aren't too fond of cryptocurrencies in general due to their decentralized nature; it's way easier to hide money and conduct transactions undercover. This enables freedoms that aren't available with the banking system. Cryptocurrencies have been notorious for the darknet markets, which certainly hasn't helped their reputation, but in reality, these transactions are only a minor portion of the true corruption out there, and cryptocurrencies aren't liable for it.

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Some people work to take bitcoin to the north start when some will talk shit and think they are the one doing the religious work. There will always be some people other side of the river and there's nothing you can do about it. I wants to take it positively.

They are doing the publicity without knowing that. Grin I consider hate speech like a bad smell which will clear toxic people from a room. This will alienate some potential investors from bitcoin as well but those toxic people can not make the bitcoin community worse place any more.









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Until now I have not read or had confrontations of hate in reference to the topic, at least not, in my region, there is a very fine line between the discussion and the topic related to hate, not only with bitcoin, it is an open letter to many topics, and really more complex than bitcoin.

I don't think such a thing exists beyond certain characters wanting to make it look that way, but unlike other complex topics where such a situation does have repercussions, it doesn't happen to a degree of emergency with bitcoin, I believe in any case that this topic is of the far-fetched type.

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September 22, 2023, 10:16:19 PM
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Since some people are quick to adopt what other people say without trying to find out reasons of their own, the hate speech may make some people never know what bitcoins really are. But the people that hate bitcoins are helping bitcoin in a way because anytime they express their hatred for bitcoins, people will always wonder why they hate the thing called bitcoin so much. They may indirectly be helping to tell people about bitcoins and raise the interest of people to want to know what bitcoins are.

I agree with you, those people who hate Bitcoin aren't really aware of its features, and they're really doing the things which may indirectly help Bitcoin to reach to all those people who may adopt it in future after listening to the hatred speech about Bitcoin from those skeptical ones. We Bitcoiners have always kept a positive outlook at the situations and we will always be positive about anything that comes in the way of Bitcoin. Anyone who speaks about Bitcoin is somehow making others know about it and that's what we want.



Not everyone who doesn't believe in Bitcoin is stupid. For the same reason, we all can't like the same things. Even well-known economists have expressed a negative opinion about Bitcoin, and the opposite too, of course. It's not about stupidity, but its concept and idea don't apply to everyone, and everyone is subject to their own opinion, which they can voice. Thus, claiming that someone is ignorant or stupid for not supporting Bitcoin is a little bold statement to make.

However, it's true that the majority of governments aren't too fond of cryptocurrencies in general due to their decentralized nature; it's way easier to hide money and conduct transactions undercover. This enables freedoms that aren't available with the banking system. Cryptocurrencies have been notorious for the darknet markets, which certainly hasn't helped their reputation, but in reality, these transactions are only a minor portion of the true corruption out there, and cryptocurrencies aren't liable for it.

Well, I will still say that those people are stupid because they are missing something that can change the world. The Bitcoin is the only remedy to our current economical problems and when someone understands that thing then that person will try his/her best to invest in it, and adopt it as soon as possible. Those economists that expressed negative opinion about Bitcoin were lacking real knowledge about this amazing invention, they did that because they were having that so-called traditional finance mindset of the television era. This era is totally changed one and only the economists and finance specialists who have digital mindset will understand that how essential Bitcoin is to make things better in the world of finance.

Governments will never accept the concept of Bitcoin even if they show in front of public that they're supporters of it. Internally they will always have negative plans to suppress the growth of Bitcoin. I believe the banking system has much more freedom when it comes to undercover transactions of the governmental money launderers because they all are part of the same system and they can fix the written documents and other necessary transcripts to hide the money laundering that they do. The darknet is something that's run by the criminal minded people and no one should blame Bitcoin because of the criminality of those criminals who sell all illegal things on those markets. I agree that they accept Bitcoin as a way for payment, and if someone blames Bitcoin for that reason then they should first blame internet for it.

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There is a lot of hate thrown on Bitcoin but it is all futile because Bitcoin keeps on promulgating.  This simply means that hate speech are almost has no effect on Bitcoin adoption.  Not all people are stupid enough to believe all thrown accusations against Bitcoin. In the end, most of these hate speech are proven wrong because the institutions and government are now leaning toward accepting Bitcoin and even creating regulations on how to adopt it without any conflict to its existing laws.

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September 22, 2023, 10:46:50 PM
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Not everyone who doesn't believe in Bitcoin is stupid. For the same reason, we all can't like the same things. Even well-known economists have expressed a negative opinion about Bitcoin, and the opposite too, of course. It's not about stupidity, but its concept and idea don't apply to everyone, and everyone is subject to their own opinion, which they can voice. Thus, claiming that someone is ignorant or stupid for not supporting Bitcoin is a little bold statement to make.

However, it's true that the majority of governments aren't too fond of cryptocurrencies in general due to their decentralized nature; it's way easier to hide money and conduct transactions undercover. This enables freedoms that aren't available with the banking system. Cryptocurrencies have been notorious for the darknet markets, which certainly hasn't helped their reputation, but in reality, these transactions are only a minor portion of the true corruption out there, and cryptocurrencies aren't liable for it.

Well, I will still say that those people are stupid because they are missing something that can change the world. The Bitcoin is the only remedy to our current economical problems and when someone understands that thing then that person will try his/her best to invest in it, and adopt it as soon as possible. Those economists that expressed negative opinion about Bitcoin were lacking real knowledge about this amazing invention, they did that because they were having that so-called traditional finance mindset of the television era. This era is totally changed one and only the economists and finance specialists who have digital mindset will understand that how essential Bitcoin is to make things better in the world of finance.

Governments will never accept the concept of Bitcoin even if they show in front of public that they're supporters of it. Internally they will always have negative plans to suppress the growth of Bitcoin. I believe the banking system has much more freedom when it comes to undercover transactions of the governmental money launderers because they all are part of the same system and they can fix the written documents and other necessary transcripts to hide the money laundering that they do. The darknet is something that's run by the criminal minded people and no one should blame Bitcoin because of the criminality of those criminals who sell all illegal things on those markets. I agree that they accept Bitcoin as a way for payment, and if someone blames Bitcoin for that reason then they should first blame internet for it.
Bitcoin is great and everything; I get it; however, how can it change the world? It's not a panacea; it's not growing on trees, nor is it free, is it? You can't acquire it yourself; mining is extremely expensive and requires great knowledge; thus, the only source is by purchasing. How can it be someone's remedy in a third-world country that barely gets by? By investing? How is he going to invest if someone's barely surviving? Bitcoin is for everyone in theory, but ultimately, it's not available for everyone for a variety of reasons, such as financial, social, and topographical. Just because we're lucky that we can afford to be involved in it doesn't mean that everyone else can either.

Bitcoin is great for an average, knowledgeable person with a computer, internet access, and a job that at least provides him some sort of stability and, with some risk, is opening great opportunities for the distant future.

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Who is against bitcoin and still having the guts to come any where near these woods?  Of course we trash talk anyone associated with all the garbage and scam coins, we also pretty much discriminate between bitcoin and other useless garbage out there.

But we'd never say anything bad to people, we just call their garbage what it really is, which is garbage.

Another discrimination I can think of, is trash talking anyone claiming to be Satoshi, that one we can't stand.😉

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Generally, however, hate speech is any form of expression that discriminates against minorities by abusive or threatening speech. Although some countries define hate speech as speech or act that promotes violence.

However everyone has the right to freedom of expression and opinion, although freedom of speech is limited for the promotion of peace because it causes harm and disunity. Hate speech can cause physical harm to its victims when violence is involved and can also cause disunity.

The (CERD) committee on the elimination of racial discrimination was the first to address hate speech and the need to build regulation, prohibiting and provocative types of language. This committee intervene and yet hate speech still continue in our society today.

Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.
Although we are free to say what we want but we should avoid expressing an idea that threatens or insults association (hate speech)

First, for anybody to hate bitcoin, it Then means that person has been judging bitcoin from afar. Maybe that person has been brainwashed by the censored media that has ran negative propaganda against bitcoin, and  the person see's bitcoin from a myopic sense of view.
Trust me, those person's hating on bitcoin don't even know jack about bitcoin, more like hating on what you don't know.

Sometimes it beats my imagination for someone who hasn't used bitcoin before, start's going about to say bitcoin is a scam.
Anybody that choose to hate bitcoin or cast aspersions on bitcoin is just being petty and that's an effort in futility. Bitcoin is like a moving train, you can't stop it or try to bad mouth it because it's unstoppable. I would advise them to stop hating and get involved with the new innovation.

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Hate speech including sayings like "Bitcoin is dead" and how many times people have tried to add it to Bitcoin obituaries.

Fortunately since 2009, with about less than 500 times to be attacked with hate speech, Bitcoin is not dead. It survives and even has been becoming stronger and I see other things, a better future for Bitcoin rather than dead.

The bullish case for Bitcoin and there is a discussion about it too.
Reloaded on Bitcointalk for discussion.

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Gone are those days when people so much believe on what criticizer says about bitcoin where the world so much believed and trust on influencers world and take every bit of information that comes from them very serious, gone are the days where a government will tell you that this is bad and you will see that as something bad without asking question, gone are the days when we so much believe on what ever our parent and elders see as something which is useful as the best and what ever they says stands.

In this present generation, we live in a world where everyone is allowed to say out their mind and you as an individual you have the right to agree or disagree with what ever that’s said about something, taken this to bitcoin, people can say what ever sort of nonsense or any form of hate speech it’s left for you the listener to take it serious or call it nothing, it’s when people give so much attention to things that don’t matter that we take wrong decision and start panic selling which give bitcoin price a negative impact, if everyone calls what haters says about bitcoin nothing then it will have a zero impact on bitcoin, hate speech don’t do anything to bitcoin, it’s the reaction bitcoinners give to the hate speech that brings up some kind of price decline on the digital asset.

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Hate speech about Bitcoin is already part of the progress since then.

Look at what happened, instead of more people being against Bitcoin, the progress since then has become great and adoption has taken place globally even more.

These hate speeches are even more helpful to Bitcoin since more people are now becoming aware of what Bitcoin is. Even if some will disregard it it's impossible they will not be interested to learn about what Bitcoin in the near future is. However, if that hate speech came from a big personality, it could really shake the market. But instead of taking that as a disadvantage, take that as an advantage to accumulate more coins in return.
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Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.

People who think Bitcoin is a scam view bitcoiners as a victim of a scam, rather than the scammers. And thinking that if someone owns Bitcoin then they must have obtained it through crime is a pretty big stretch. I don't think I ever witnessed such line of thinking in a Bitcoin critic that I encountered.

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Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
I have come to understand that it is in the nature of some people to criticise what they don't understand or control. This weakness is what is fueling some unnecessary arguments against Bitcoin. Some supposed experts will stop at nothing to discourage people from using Bitcoin. Similarly, you don't expect governments of the world to give up on their control of the global financial system so easily, they will do everything possible to discourage people from using Bitcoin, that takes away their power and influence.


Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.
Bitcoin will always win and it will surprise you to know that some of those critics of Bitcoin are actually hodlers. There was a time our government banned Bitcoin by directing all the banks to close accounts of those transacting in Bitcoin. It was later revealed that some of the government officials including the minister for justice was an active Bitcoiner Smiley

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The reason for the propagation of hate speech in bitcoin is because the people that's supposed to talk and inform us about bitcoin aren't either talking, not talking loud enough or don't have a platform or support to talk to which leaves a void that will be filled by the people that you really don't want to see talking about something they're passionate about because you know that they're going be a waste of time and their talks and such only breeds toxicity in the community. Another reason why we can't have a civil discussion with people is that we aren't good at arguing when people have a different opinions than us, same for the people on the opposite side of the argument, maybe if we can change that, we might see some changes but that's undoing years worth of principle because not being able to accept other's different opinion starts from childhood.
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If there are people who hate Bitcoin, they are obviously the ones who are ignorant and naive of the good that it can give or bring to anyone who will have Bitcoin, whether it is an individual or a company that receives it. And we can't get rid of people in this industry who really don't understand Bitcoin.

There are other people who will talk badly about Bitcoin because they have an agenda that, with their influence and power, they know will have an impact on the market, and when they succeed in their objective of dropping the value of Bitcoin, they will take advantage of the opportunity that they can buy a large amount of Bitcoin while holding it long-term. This is just my opinion and assessment that I can think of.

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September 23, 2023, 04:56:07 AM
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Generally, however, hate speech is any form of expression that discriminates against minorities by abusive or threatening speech. Although some countries define hate speech as speech or act that promotes violence.

However everyone has the right to freedom of expression and opinion, although freedom of speech is limited for the promotion of peace because it causes harm and disunity. Hate speech can cause physical harm to its victims when violence is involved and can also cause disunity.

The (CERD) committee on the elimination of racial discrimination was the first to address hate speech and the need to build regulation, prohibiting and provocative types of language. This committee intervene and yet hate speech still continue in our society today.

Those who support (pro) bitcoin and those who are against bitcoin always have a clash in speech. Those who hate bitcoin see bitcoin as a scam and other crime scheme. So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering and some special advisers in the government see bitcoin from this perspective so they advised the government to ban bitcoin in their country. And this cause a social trauma between these two groups.
Upon all these bitcoin is still gaining ground in the ecosystem. Therefore, hate speech cannot do anything to bitcoin again.
Although we are free to say what we want but we should avoid expressing an idea that threatens or insults association (hate speech)

Good and bad opinions occur in every corner of the world and there are always two groups one is to support and the other is opposing it. However, in the case of Bitcoin a small group of people as compared to the world, believe in Bitcoin and want everyone to accept it as a global payment system only. But on the other hand, those who did the wrong things like corruption and those who have no Bitcoin or no knowledge about it say shits about it. As bitcoin is decentralized the record of your every transaction is clear and everyone can be seen so the people who are willing the corrupt have no opportunity to hide a big amount of money if bitcoin is legalized in their country.

And yeah most of the illegal work was done in the fiat currency system so how they are right to say that Bitcoin promotes illegal activities? Corruption, money laundering, funding to terrorists, or any illegal work was done through the fait system in fact it would not be wrong to call it illegal. Bitcoin is a currency that makes you free from the centralized system, through this system certain people hold control over a large population and Satoshi doesn't want this and for that, he introduced this system to make people free and make them the owners of their assets.
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