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September 23, 2023, 04:57:17 AM |
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Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation. I would consider them arrogant because they really missed a great invention due to their own stupidity. Those days are long gone when people considered Bitcoin as a scam or something that can go zero in value anytime. Now most of the people accept the fact that Bitcoin is the future and many skeptical people have invested in Bitcoin.
Not having no thoughts but not using your mind to think. The truth can be found by someone if they are able to use reason to think well because the position of reason is very high in humans. Even though the mind which functions to think has limitations, the mind is able to find truth and error. Those who hate Bitcoin by getting involved in criminal cases are mistaken in the actual use of reason or they are wrong in using the way reason works. Bitcoin is a great system in the economy created by people with the ability to think beyond borders and time. Those who hate bitcoin are unable to make an analogy with the thinking ability of the creator of bitcoin so they appear stupid with their own abilities as intelligent creatures.
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September 23, 2023, 08:43:08 AM |
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Generally, however, hate speech is any form of expression that discriminates against minorities by abusive or threatening speech. Although some countries define hate speech as speech or act that promotes violence.
Many people have come up with their own personal attack against bitcoin through hate speech and the governments also have in their own way contributed in making this same attack on bitcoin, but no any amount of these attacks aimed on bitcoin ever stand because bitcoin is a digital currency that is independent of their various individual speech, this make the bitcoin network rather to be more stronger the more the attack, the more the adoption increases
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September 23, 2023, 08:46:45 AM |
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There is a lot of hate thrown on Bitcoin but it is all futile because Bitcoin keeps on promulgating. This simply means that hate speech are almost has no effect on Bitcoin adoption. Not all people are stupid enough to believe all thrown accusations against Bitcoin. In the end, most of these hate speech are proven wrong because the institutions and government are now leaning toward accepting Bitcoin and even creating regulations on how to adopt it without any conflict to its existing laws.
Hate speech from ordinary individuals may not have any significant repercussions. However, what about hate speech coming from influential figures like Elon Musk or Bill Gates? This could be a concerning practice, whether it's part of a calculated tug-of-war or an outright attempt to undermine. Bitcoin is still in its nascent stages, and despite its growing adoption, a fundamental issue it may face is the potential for price manipulation. We all aspire to live in a just world, but those with higher levels of power also seek greater gains. I wouldn't characterize this as a threat to new users, but rather as a objective consideration of the worst-case scenarios that could unfold.
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September 23, 2023, 09:03:12 AM |
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However everyone has the right to freedom of expression and opinion, although freedom of speech is limited for the promotion of peace because it causes harm and disunity. Hate speech can cause physical harm to its victims when violence is involved and can also cause disunity.
I'm curious what's your definition of freedom. If free speech is limited promotion of certain things, then it's no longer free speech. What kind of harm does it cause? Why is "disunity" bad? Why would you want to unite with someone you utterly disagree with? And no, speech cannot cause physical harm, unless you're talking really loud directly to one's ear, hurting their eardrums.
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September 23, 2023, 09:21:28 AM |
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So far, I have seen hate speech issued by people who don't like Bitcoin when they get scammed by an investment program. There they said that Bitcoin deceived them and took their money even though after being told, they realized that Bitcoin was innocent and the person who created the investment program was guilty and has now run away.
But some people who hate Bitcoin will continue to hate it and don't want to hear about the goodness or benefits they can get from Bitcoin. It is normal and we cannot force him to learn Bitcoin. They definitely would never want to do that.
They will later see what benefits people who use Bitcoin will receive. And maybe that's when they will open their minds to accept Bitcoin. Maybe they need time to understand Bitcoin their way.
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September 23, 2023, 10:08:43 AM |
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Ignorant is a big disease, if anyone hates Bitcoin it's because they know nothing about it or they are in the governments office, making decisions that only benefits centralization, normal people living around me today have no knowledge about technology, when something like Bitcoin can give you money, they call it a scam or Ponzi, without them trying to figure out what Bitcoin truly is.
My message to such people is to keep hating, since I've knew about Bitcoin there are countless of hate speeches from people, even from popular figures in the world, but the smart ones later started buying Bitcoin and took their hate speech back, like seriously, you can't or shouldn't judge what you don't understand.
Some set of people lacks the courage to change their lives, when they see challenges or failure from anything online, to them, automatically everything online and the internet is a scam, they don't even bother to learn from their own mistakes, sadly there is no way to change their minds, the world will ways be full of such people.
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September 23, 2023, 10:38:51 AM |
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Generally, however, hate speech is any form of expression that discriminates against minorities by abusive or threatening speech. Although some countries define hate speech as speech or act that promotes violence.
Many people have come up with their own personal attack against bitcoin through hate speech and the governments also have in their own way contributed in making this same attack on bitcoin, but no any amount of these attacks aimed on bitcoin ever stand because bitcoin is a digital currency that is independent of their various individual speech, this make the bitcoin network rather to be more stronger the more the attack, the more the adoption increases The government has all the instruments to say something bad about bitcoin, such as the media and then whatever they say will spread more easily. But in this case I agree, that whatever is said by individuals or groups against bitcoin will not last long. And I think we have repeatedly known it even from the beginning of bitcoin's existence. There are always pros and cons in something, especially this may be something sensitive because it is directly related to one's financial freedom. While it must be recognized that the government wants to always be the holder of freedom from everyone.
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September 23, 2023, 11:24:28 AM Last edit: September 23, 2023, 12:03:09 PM by Negotiation |
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I don't think hate speech has any effect on bitcoin because there is no government control over bitcoin no attack against bitcoin will succeed. Bitcoin is decentralized and has no influence and the price increases at its own pace without central bank or government control factors such as the inflation rate of the financial system or the surrounding economic development of the country cannot affect the value of bitcoin. Factors that affect the price of bitcoin are the cost of creating bitcoins through mining the demand and supply of bitcoins. The current year could be good for bitcoin as it has become almost the leading asset in the market so far..
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Blitzboy
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September 23, 2023, 01:08:24 PM |
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Ignorant is a big disease, if anyone hates Bitcoin it's because they know nothing about it or they are in the governments office, making decisions that only benefits centralization, normal people living around me today have no knowledge about technology, when something like Bitcoin can give you money, they call it a scam or Ponzi, without them trying to figure out what Bitcoin truly is.
My message to such people is to keep hating, since I've knew about Bitcoin there are countless of hate speeches from people, even from popular figures in the world, but the smart ones later started buying Bitcoin and took their hate speech back, like seriously, you can't or shouldn't judge what you don't understand.
Some set of people lacks the courage to change their lives, when they see challenges or failure from anything online, to them, automatically everything online and the internet is a scam, they don't even bother to learn from their own mistakes, sadly there is no way to change their minds, the world will ways be full of such people.
Isnt it fascinating how the powerful fear the unknown? They dont know about Bitcoin because they fear losing control. Whatever disrupts the established quo, particularly Bitcoin, has always threatened central authority. To those who call it a fraud, I wonder if they've mindfully studied. How quickly they embrace hatred. Ironically, many skeptics buy Bitcoin privately. Its potential is hidden by pride or fear. The internet was once ridiculed too. Today, can we even imagine a world without it? Many avoid history, staying in their ignorance. How sad that misplaced worries kept them from progress.
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September 23, 2023, 01:47:45 PM |
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As said by those who have excellent knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin, and those who oppose Bitcoin because they have no knowledge and understanding of Bitcoin. And in my opinion, just ignore it because these problems will always be there and continue to happen until in the end and there will be a time when they realize that what they say is not true, just like we started before knowing Bitcoin well. And this is also caused by those who experience losses, because they lose money and feel that Bitcoin is cheating them. This is actually because they lack knowledge and only greed drives them, and when they go the wrong way they hate it and it could be they who spread negative news about Bitcoin.
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September 23, 2023, 02:04:55 PM |
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I don't think hate speech has any effect on bitcoin because there is no government control over bitcoin no attack against bitcoin will succeed. Bitcoin is decentralized and has no influence and the price increases at its own pace without central bank or government control factors such as the inflation rate of the financial system or the surrounding economic development of the country cannot affect the value of bitcoin. Factors that affect the price of bitcoin are the cost of creating bitcoins through mining the demand and supply of bitcoins. The current year could be good for bitcoin as it has become almost the leading asset in the market so far..
But hate speech is simply persuasive to some people especially those who doesn't know that much of this technology. They have nothing to rely but what others are saying so technically, if they'd be hearing hate speech prior to pros of this industry, then they are more likely to be avoidant and to disregard what we would say positive to this industry. But problem is, we cannot really force them tk change their minds if ever they would be having negative impression of this industry unless they see its advantages for themselves. Wr may only share our positive views and it is for them to decide whether they would believe it and be open for ideas of investing as well or not. And also to point out the only factor which affects the price of Bitcoin is demand and that is something affected by many things, and not for expenses concerning mining.
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Everything in this world that exists isn't bad. Unless someone uses it for bad purposes. And those who hate that will always focus on the bad things. No matter how much good it may do, those people will always bring up the one reason that went wrong. This all happens because of the lack of knowledge. They are so caught up in their own opinion that they won't even try it out or learn about it. What they say is the right thing for them no matter what everyone else says.
Let them say whatever they want to. Those who have the proper knowledge will never follow their words. Try it out on your own, learn about it, and experience it. Only then you can understand it properly. There will always be three kinds of people. One will love it, one will hate it, and one will stay neutral about it. Choose your side wisely.
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Hate speech usually comes from those who either fail to understand something and they feel attacked when facts and knowledge are presented to them or those who are just jumping on the bandwagon of misinformation about something. In this case, hate or dislike for Bitcoin is not new due to various negative (possibly fake) stories and news surrounding it. Additionally, there is are also the negative portrayal of media regarding Bitcoin that ruins the image of it and heavily influence the hate-train surrounding Bitcoin.
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September 23, 2023, 03:39:26 PM |
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So with their view on it they see bitcoin users as scapegoat, criminals and money laundering...
It's their view, anyone is at liberty to munch at whatever crosses their minds; so to say. It's not what we think that becomes the issue but what action we take towards it (to cause bodily harm) that's. It's the same way those anti-Bitcoinists attack Bitcoin that the pro-Bitcoinists promote it and then condemn anything altcoin. I've read posts here completely condemning altcoins even when it's glaring that there are certain altcoins which have helped push the narrative of this industry. I know how annoying it's when we get to read dissecting views on stuff we see as treasure. However, in getting annoyed we should also remember that there will always be others on the other side of the divide/our rationale. Yes, I agree that there's bad press but I'm also certain that if the negative inclination of the press on Bitcoin didn't destroy it in its nascent stage, it can't now. We just have to keep a positive mind on Bitcoin and not be bothered about whatever negative thoughts others have of it. Some will agree with our views now while others will come around it with time. Everyone has their time of awareness. That's the way I see it.
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September 23, 2023, 04:11:05 PM |
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Bitcoin is great and everything; I get it; however, how can it change the world? It's not a panacea; it's not growing on trees, nor is it free, is it? You can't acquire it yourself; mining is extremely expensive and requires great knowledge; thus, the only source is by purchasing. How can it be someone's remedy in a third-world country that barely gets by? By investing? How is he going to invest if someone's barely surviving? Bitcoin is for everyone in theory, but ultimately, it's not available for everyone for a variety of reasons, such as financial, social, and topographical. Just because we're lucky that we can afford to be involved in it doesn't mean that everyone else can either.
Bitcoin is great for an average, knowledgeable person with a computer, internet access, and a job that at least provides him some sort of stability and, with some risk, is opening great opportunities for the distant future.
I know it isn't free but my friend fiat is also not free and it also doesn't grow on trees. The ones who can acquire fiat can also acquire Bitcoin and the ones who can't acquire fiat may not be able to acquire Bitcoin. Nothing in this world is free and I must say that anyone who runs after the things that are free may not get the things that he/she deserves. Bitcoin mining is expensive and I agree with you, and only someone with good financial condition may have a mining setup, but anyone who earns minimum $40 a week can at least invest in Bitcoin by following a DCA strategy. I personally know many people from third-world countries who have their investment in Bitcoin and that's why anyone who has a little bit of extra money can purchase Bitcoin. Those who're barely surviving may not be able to invest in it but my friend Bitcoin allows international audience to send transactions and maybe in future we see some funding sites that may implement Bitcoin so the financially stable ones may help the needy ones with Bitcoin transactions. Bitcoin isn't only an asset and it is a way of payment as well. As an asset only financially stable ones can invest in it but as a payment gateway it can be used to help so many people who can't be helped with fiat due to regional restrictions. Bitcoin is a great system in the economy created by people with the ability to think beyond borders and time. Those who hate bitcoin are unable to make an analogy with the thinking ability of the creator of bitcoin so they appear stupid with their own abilities as intelligent creatures.
I agree with you the ones who aren't good at thinking and who don't understand the digital revolution will not understand the idea of Bitcoin and may name it whatever their limited thinking ability allows them. Those people will also understand Bitcoin but in their old age and then they will regret their own skeptical mindset.
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September 23, 2023, 06:02:19 PM |
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However everyone has the right to freedom of expression and opinion, although freedom of speech is limited for the promotion of peace because it causes harm and disunity. Hate speech can cause physical harm to its victims when violence is involved and can also cause disunity.
I'm curious what's your definition of freedom. If free speech is limited promotion of certain things, then it's no longer free speech. What kind of harm does it cause? Why is "disunity" bad? Why would you want to unite with someone you utterly disagree with? And no, speech cannot cause physical harm, unless you're talking really loud directly to one's ear, hurting their eardrums. In a society where everyone is free to speak is called freedom of speech, definetly everyone is free to speak But in a situation where the speech stands as a threat or abusive is called hate speech and in a situation where hate speech is involved it can lead to violence and disunity that's why freedom of speech is limited.
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September 23, 2023, 06:38:05 PM |
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Bitcoin is great and everything; I get it; however, how can it change the world? It's not a panacea; it's not growing on trees, nor is it free, is it? You can't acquire it yourself; mining is extremely expensive and requires great knowledge; thus, the only source is by purchasing. How can it be someone's remedy in a third-world country that barely gets by? By investing? How is he going to invest if someone's barely surviving? Bitcoin is for everyone in theory, but ultimately, it's not available for everyone for a variety of reasons, such as financial, social, and topographical. Just because we're lucky that we can afford to be involved in it doesn't mean that everyone else can either.
Bitcoin is great for an average, knowledgeable person with a computer, internet access, and a job that at least provides him some sort of stability and, with some risk, is opening great opportunities for the distant future.
I know it isn't free but my friend fiat is also not free and it also doesn't grow on trees. The ones who can acquire fiat can also acquire Bitcoin and the ones who can't acquire fiat may not be able to acquire Bitcoin. Nothing in this world is free and I must say that anyone who runs after the things that are free may not get the things that he/she deserves. Bitcoin mining is expensive and I agree with you, and only someone with good financial condition may have a mining setup, but anyone who earns minimum $40 a week can at least invest in Bitcoin by following a DCA strategy. I personally know many people from third-world countries who have their investment in Bitcoin and that's why anyone who has a little bit of extra money can purchase Bitcoin. Those who're barely surviving may not be able to invest in it but my friend Bitcoin allows international audience to send transactions and maybe in future we see some funding sites that may implement Bitcoin so the financially stable ones may help the needy ones with Bitcoin transactions. Bitcoin isn't only an asset and it is a way of payment as well. As an asset only financially stable ones can invest in it but as a payment gateway it can be used to help so many people who can't be helped with fiat due to regional restrictions. No one implied that fiat is free either, but you still don't explain how Bitcoin can save someone who's struggling to make ends meet, and investing is out of the question. It isn't that simple, and trust me, investing $40 per week isn't going to save you in the long run. $40/week is approximately $2.000 per year; in the best-case scenario, you'll get $4.000 to $5.000 in return, and this is very optimistic speculation because that requires a stable Bitcoin purchasing price. Is it a lifesaving amount of money? Certainly not. On top of that, I stated that there are people, even on the forum as we speak, that can barely afford to pay DCA $40 per month, not on a weekly basis. How can someone like that be saved from Bitcoin? International transactions aren't something ordinary, nor are the fees insignificant in Bitcoin. You can send and receive money with plenty of centralized services with minimal to zero fees.
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Bitcoin really never cares about hate speech at all. It's not unexpected that a few groups of people will always hate Bitcoin, and they might say negative things about it and express their hate speech. We can't prevent them, actually, and because they have the right to speak. Even opposition parties hate speech against the ruling party of all the democratic countries. It doesn't mean the ruling party will stop their activities. So the same is true of Bitcoin hate speech. Bitcoin gained popularity so quickly that hate speech was unable to stop it anyway.
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September 23, 2023, 07:56:03 PM |
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Those who hate Bitcoin are people without mind in their heads because someone who has a little knowledge about finance and freedom would accept Bitcoin without any obligation.
Since some people are quick to adopt what other people say without trying to find out reasons of their own, the hate speech may make some people never know what bitcoins really are. But the people that hate bitcoins are helping bitcoin in a way because anytime they express their hatred for bitcoins, people will always wonder why they hate the thing called bitcoin so much. They may indirectly be helping to tell people about bitcoins and raise the interest of people to want to know what bitcoins are. Bitcoin is not influenced by people who hate Bitcoin. On the contrary, it causes more people to hear about and research Bitcoin. A person who researches Bitcoin will not hate Bitcoin if they research it correctly. When we think about the stages that Bitcoin has gone through and the years that have passed, Bitcoin has continued to progress despite all the positive and negative statements made about it. Today, we all believe that the Bitcoin price will rise and Bitcoin will continue its solid progress. You can rest assured that all other rhetoric will be empty rhetoric and Bitcoin will continue to move forward.
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September 23, 2023, 09:14:12 PM |
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I don't think hate speech does any harm to Bitcoin or its users because it helps make those with curious minds want to know why it is bad spoken about, thus they get hooked. I used to think Bitcoin was a Ponzi-too-good-to-be-true scheme, until I joined this forum and got to ask the right questions, thereby I learnt a great deal and even trade with it. Simply put, I got hooked.
Hate speech helps advertise Bitcoin from a broader perspective.
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