Do You Trust RNGs (Random Number Generators) in Casinos?

[ultrloa]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

You will only be doubtful in the beginning if your expectation is to high but you end up being crumpled on the bets made. But if you know how fine they are and how smooth the casino experience you are gaining from them for sure you never question the RNG results of the casino since every result shown you get satisfied with it. Its just we need to became more familiar with the casino and questioning about such thing will be our of our concerns and we might shift our attention on other things especially on the promotions they offer.

If you still doubt the shown result of the casino maybe better to seek for feedback from the community for sure many would share their experience and you can learn a lot from gamblers insights.

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[coin-investor]

You are cheating yourself if you think that the casinos that you're playing are cheating on you, why play at a casino where you feel that you are being cheated It is unfair to you if these RNGs coming from game providers are cheating their clients, casinos will not subscribe to these providers if you feel you are being cheated then luck based and RNGs based games are not for you and just do sports betting where your skill is the one that will be put to test.

When it comes to playing in a casino trust is important, you will not enjoy the game if you do not trust the result.

[edmundduke]

If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).

[qwertyup23]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

I think that casinos are generally open about their respective house edges.

Remember that online gambling casinos are businesses and they must have a designated house edge in order to have at least a very slight advantage against the users. While this house edge may seem relatively small, statistically, the house will always win. This is the reason on why people who gamble frequently succumb and lose money at the end of the process.

In conclusion, casinos are open about their rates. But if you are indeed lucky and you have won a couple of times which yielded a profit, call it a day and try your best to stop!

[maydna]

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Many gamblers didn’t mind about this as long as they are on the most trusted gambling site and yes, if you are not familiar with this better to gamble only on the best list. Its actually hard to know if the site if fair or not, and I’m sure someone will always look into that details, all you have to do is to do your own research as well. You can’t do anything about it honestly, its hard to know if you’re an ordinary gambler all I have is the trust on the top sites and playing with them is still good so far.

It is indeed difficult to know whether the site is fair or not, but at least if we are on a trusted gambling site, we will not encounter any problems because the site will be fair to all its members. So we can only trust it instead of wasting time just checking it so we don't end up gambling. However, some people will always check whether the gambling site is fair before deciding to stay on the site or move to another site. And once again, this has to do with the issue of comfort obtained by the gambler.

[Beparanf]

If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).

Verifying fairness of the game is only possible on house games which is commonly open source and verifiable while the rest of the casino games from 3rd party is using RNG to determine the result which is close source. I believe this is what OP referring and there’s no way to verify the outcome manually if probably fair but this doesn’t mean they are red flag since these games undergo through audit before they have license to be distributed on casino.

[YOSHIE]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

I don't believe in the RNG system, you know about simulations, algorithms, probability that's it, the system (RNG) is often used in slot games, blackjack, Keno, dice, lottery and so on, you really don't know the random numbers that are issued.

For more clarity you can see below.

Random Number Generator is a tool or algorithm that produces a sequence of numbers that is statistically independent and unpredictable. Simply put, a Random Number Generator is a program or tool for generating an irregular sequence of numbers or symbols.

The points of the RNG are like this.

RNG algorithm, every single outcome is 100% random and does not follow patterns or cycles over time.

So I don't believe about the RNG system, if it is considered important in casinos, it applies to the casino, not to the user.

[edmundduke]

If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).

Verifying fairness of the game is only possible on house games which is commonly open source and verifiable while the rest of the casino games from 3rd party is using RNG to determine the result which is close source. I believe this is what OP referring and there’s no way to verify the outcome manually if probably fair but this doesn’t mean they are red flag since these games undergo through audit before they have license to be distributed on casino.

Very true but i personally would never trust the system not to be manipulated if i can not verify it myself. Could be just me tho

[robelneo]

if you don't trust a platform then it's like throwing away your money, gambling is a game of luck but at least there is a chance to win even if the chances are slim, I would not sign up, deposit, and play or trade in a platform that I don't trust, and the game provider will have a bad reputation in the community if it's exposed as rigged.

Casinos' existence very much depends on trust and reputation if it's taken away they do not have to be in this business anymore one case study is 1xbit, they have a thread here but all the comments and feedback are bad.

[ralle14]

I somewhat trust them to offer quality games, so I voted yes. I still play some of the casino games up until now and have no doubts about the RNGs on their games. My reasoning is similar to the other posts because the only way to send the message is by using your wallet and sticking to provably fair games. Certain casinos would even be willing to pull out specific games if it's not up to their standard and try to improve them when that happens.

[alinknila]

If the @OP win, he will not open this thread and think RNGs is rigged

It's not surprising to see a loser will complain and blame the casino because he's not making money. A mad gambler will blame everything when the fault was himself, such person need to get rehabilitation in order to make his brain think wisely.

Oh, it's not like that haha, I personally trust the RNG. I think just like everyone else I've had some wins and some losses and I understand that at reputable casinos it is fair. I started this thread just because I was curious about what other people think. 

[Woodie]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

Only users that have managed to hit some big multipliers will say Random Number Generators are real, otherwise if you have never hit one after chasing to catch one for a longtime and never winning anything will keep you saying these generators are rigged.

But imo I know that casino games are a game of luck, and to win you need to keep playing to make your own luck...you honestly can't play one or two rounds and expect to catch a 1000X multiplier that easy.

Do You Trust RNGs (Random Number Generators) in Casinos?

Btw, is this RNG backed by probably fair when it comes to crypto casinos??

[Latviand]

if you don't trust a platform then it's like throwing away your money, gambling is a game of luck but at least there is a chance to win even if the chances are slim, I would not sign up, deposit, and play or trade in a platform that I don't trust, and the game provider will have a bad reputation in the community if it's exposed as rigged.

Exactly, if you feel that the casino is already is sketchy at first glance, why would you still put your money in it in hopes that you can win something, there's a reason why the buildings of casinos in Vegas are awesome and that they're all breathtaking, they want you to have a good first impression on their casino and the same with online casinos, you will do the same. When it comes to RNG though, I think that it's relative to how established the casino is or how trustworthy they are at first glance, I think that you have no choice but to trust that it's not rigged.

You don't really need to trust RNG, it's still a game of chance and no matter what you do it's always going to favor the house and we all know that the casino owners don't want a fair RNG or even a player favoring RNG, that's bad for the business, they just know where to put the numbers so you can still have a small chance of winning, like a tiny hole in a vast concrete prison to let a little light in.

[swogerino]

If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).

This is a nice comment as some reputable casinos in games that are designed by them also called in house games they offer you all the seeds,hashes and everything to check yourself and people do not bother to question about these games as they know they are provably fair.

The problem is with third party slot providers for example which you have to trust them and also the casino has to trust them as they offer no hashes,seeds or whatever is needed to verify that these games are provably fair,so in here you either trust them or not,it is a personal decision.

[btc78]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

this depend on my availability , sometimes I just used RNG when I am busy but wanted to try me luck.

But as long as i have plenty of time , i will still choose to use manual betting.

If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).

supported this one ,

[Nwada001]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

I don't know how reliable those random number generators can be, but one thing I truly believe about all this is that the system is not entirely fair enough; there are always big wins from the casino from gamblers all over. It might happen to you today; it might happen to someone else the next day.
 
One thing I believe is that the system is designed to not always allow the number of winners and amount to be won to be higher than the overall wager amount; that's, we can't have a total number of $100,000 RNGs per day and a user or total number of winners exceeding that amount.
 
The casinos are built to favour their owners, so I don't entirely believe in their full fairness. There is some manipulation in the number generation, and there is a limit to what higher number can be generated at every point in time in the overall wager.

[aioc]

After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?

It's foolishness if we keep playing in casinos where the RNGs (Random Number Generators) you don't trust, we cannot enjoy the game and there's always suspicion that you cannot win or you are being cheated unless there are reports that the provider is not transparent and they are manipulating the RNG then you can look on other casinos with providers that you can trust with their RNG.
It is good to play in a casino where you are confident and you have peace of mind because you cannot enjoy the game if you cannot trust the platform, I will just bet on offline horse racing where I can have a fair chance.

[Silberman]

It's foolishness if we keep playing in casinos where the RNGs (Random Number Generators) you don't trust, we cannot enjoy the game and there's always suspicion that you cannot win or you are being cheated unless there are reports that the provider is not transparent and they are manipulating the RNG then you can look on other casinos with providers that you can trust with their RNG.
It is good to play in a casino where you are confident and you have peace of mind because you cannot enjoy the game if you cannot trust the platform, I will just bet on offline horse racing where I can have a fair chance.

While Satoshi strove to eliminate the need to trust a third party when it comes to our transactions using bitcoin, this only applies to that environment, when it comes to everything else we are forced to trust a third party all the time, so when we are gambling at a casino we have to trust they will give you a good service, not scam you and not rig their RNG, and if at some point you do not feel like you can trust the casino in which you are gambling for any reason then that is a clear sign that you should stop gambling there.

[wiss19]

You said you already scan a couple of topics like this? Isn't it enough and you want more opinions regarding on this RNG? But if you ask me, my response would be is ;  depending on the casino that I'm playing with.

If I found out that they are trusted by lots of people, I can also put my trust on them and to the RNG that their games are using. If not, not. I'm not really sure if this RNG is the same with the provably fair system that a crypto casino is using on their games. But if not, I think I will go more with provably fair because I think it was based on the blockchain. So we are sure that the results are truly fair and not manipulated by the people behind the casino.