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[digaran]

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[Timelord2067]

Side by side with the "boo hoo - I got a neutral trust feedback" board.

[JollyGood]

A reminder for you @Jolly, I deserve the feeling of when I saw your feedback, because I'm a mean and bad person and I have been ungrateful to God  , however since karma is a real deal, you'll feel the same someday, somewhere.
I forgive, you know and your God.

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digaran archived

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Thank you for forgiving me for the negative tag I placed on your account. Since you are in the forgiving mood, I hope you have forgiven ALL the other members that left you both negative and neutral trust and wonder if you will create threads in the Reputation board about them too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=806776

It's time to open a new child board on the forum, JollyGood Reputation.

[Timelord2067]

I just checked https://loyce.club/trust/2023-09-23_Sat_05.07h/131361.html he still distrusts me, so that spirit of forgiveness is just a swig out of the bottle not an emptying down the drain of the whole bottle.

[JollyGood]

And there I was thinking digaran was a changed man with those references he made regarding forgiveness  

Personally (just to mention forgiveness in the context of the OP), I think it should be absolute and not be withheld however maybe his forgiveness is in limited supply. It could be he singled me out for special forgiveness.

I just checked https://loyce.club/trust/2023-09-23_Sat_05.07h/131361.html he still distrusts me, so that spirit of forgiveness is just a swig out of the bottle not an emptying down the drain of the whole bottle.

[Stalker22]

I have had no past interactions with this member called JollyGood, I don't know where and when I did what he claims:

"BEWARE: "digaran" cannot be trusted.

Negative/neutral trust from other members clearly shows he conducts in various nefarious activities including placing negative trusts as revenge then demanding payments to remove it."

Of all the negatives on your profile, it is only JG that bothers you?

That clearly is a lie, for someone to successfully do that, one has to be a DT member in order to sway others to pay in exchange of tag removal.

So, you also lied about this?

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I don't care if I can convince DT members to remove their tags or not, I only can spend my time and defend people if they wish to pay me for it.

[JollyGood]

Now I can't stop singing "he is a jolly good fellow" song, damn.😉

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Side by side with the "boo hoo - I got a neutral trust feedback" board.

Well digaran didn't get a neutral from JG, he got a big fat red one right on the lips.

What puzzles me is why he's so concerned about JG's negative since he's got ones from a few years ago by members who (I think) are still on DT, like suchmoon, actmyname, and marlboroza.  The forum's trust system went off my radar completely shortly after Theymos made the DT list a rotating one, so I don't know what's what.  I don't even know if I'm on DT anymore and frankly don't care anymore.

Royse777 probably has a lot of sympathy toward red-trusted members since he's had his own reputational issues in the past year.  I don't know if the projects he's managing campaigns for care if shady members advertise for them or not, but said members better hope Royse777 keeps managing campaigns and remains sympathetic.  But I'll tell ya, once you open that door to accepting red-trusted members, they're all going to be knocking on your door looking for a spot. 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I don't even know if I'm on DT anymore and frankly don't care anymore.

You are currently on DT 2

Royse777 probably has a lot of sympathy toward red-trusted members since he's had his own reputational issues in the past year.  I don't know if the projects he's managing campaigns for care if shady members advertise for them or not, but said members better hope Royse777 keeps managing campaigns and remains sympathetic.  But I'll tell ya, once you open that door to accepting red-trusted members, they're all going to be knocking on your door looking for a spot.  

I think he is given such members spots on a case by case basis, otherwise they would have flooded those high paying campaigns like they did with 1xbit  

As for digaran I don't know what to make of the statements he made back then. Whether he actually meant it or it was a case of sarcasm gone bad.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

This might be a bit off-topic but I think not too much because it is related to the OP's trust profile. I don't quite understand why there is a warning flag on this thread for unregistered forum visitors (and I guess newbies too):




But if I go to his trust profile, no flag appears, and even less an active one.




I have also seen that in other threads initiated by him the warning appears on some of them and not on others. For example, on this mining altcoins thread it does appear:

What is FPGA miner?

But in Development & Technical Discussion it does not appear, as for example on this one:

Is it possible to find out which X coordinate is -N ?

I think he is given such members spots on a case by case basis <...>

I think so too.

I don't know if the projects he's managing campaigns for care if shady members advertise for them or not, but said members better hope Royse777 keeps managing campaigns and remains sympathetic.  

I think he has proven that he is a very good campaign manager so he must have had good reasons to hire digaran. As for the advertisers I guess if I were one of them I would be worried that the threads opened by one of the forum members I pay would appear with a big warning sign, as at least some of digaran's threads do. After all, red tags are not shown to unregistered visitors to the forum but these types of flag warnings are very conspicuous.

[digaran]

I don't quite understand why there is a warning flag on this thread for unregistered forum visitors (and I guess newbies too):

That's the mark of fame and a sign of respect from administration, this way everyone would immediately sign in to check my profile trust page, then they will have a laugh and understand what a joke a semi-decentralized trust system is.
For your information, I was invited to join this campaign. I would never embarrass myself by asking to join.

Anyone by reading colored pixels on the screen saying someone is a scammer and they believe it, well I wanted to say sheeple, but my own family are like that, they believe whatever, CNN, BBC, News networks, social medias say.
Then I have to spend half an hour convincing them otherwise.

I'm actually happy, because this happened after I joined a campaign, this means after 5 years their butts still hurt, also it shows what a lowlifes  they are.
But why? Just to show how miserable you are? , so burn till the day you die if you can't stand me.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Of all the negatives on your profile, it is only JG that bothers you?

In case you don't understand, it's because JollyGood deliberately wanted to offend the OP, wanted some more attention.

DaveF left a neutral, I don't know if that was really necessary but I don't think DaveF had any other motive. But the motive of JollyGood is very clear.
A person can have a past, for that they may not be proud but that does not mean they can not change. I have no opinion for OP but after 5 years why it's necessary to leave another negative feedback? Offend a member.

What puzzles me is why he's so concerned about JG's negative ...

Read the response for Stalker22, you may understand the reason now.

The reason for all these topics are summarized on my last post.

It is another example of unnecessary use of Feedback system. These types of unnecessary practices are the root of all problems everyone is experiencing because of you. You don't get it, do you?

To be honest it's not your fault, your mental state is questionable.

The problem is many members who have you in their trust list do not see it unfortunately. They are still are appreciating the past works you did to bring you today [it could be a part of your plan from the beginning] but unfortunately they do not realize that their trust for you are now is in misuse and causing the forum a great problem.

You are causing problem by constantly offending everyone except some very close circle members those are offering their trust.

Additionally, I just realized the inspiration for all these unnecessary conducts by JollyGood could be [1.] His obsession to see himself as a the top feedback sender [2.] His obsession to make his distrust list a long as possible.

Just look at the number of people he distrust and number of feedback he left so far.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

This might be a bit off-topic but I think not too much because it is related to the OP's trust profile. I don't quite understand why there is a warning flag on this thread for unregistered forum visitors (and I guess newbies too):

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/26/Pnua2.jpeg

But if I go to his trust profile, no flag appears, and even less an active one.

To answer your question. That red banner you see is from the old trust system. When Theymos introduced the trust flag system on June 12, 2019. He removed the concept of trust scores, but he didn't want to make the past trust feedback completely useless. So if a member received more negative feedback from DT members than positive. The red banner will appear for guest/newbie users. This only applies to feedback that was sent before the trust flags were introduced.

[Helena Yu]

Wait what? Being on DT1 also needs inclusion of a member by others? Isn't theymos the only one directly trusting them?
If being on DT needs inclusion, then any of them having said member on their list are responsible for his actions*.

You can check his trust list where there are 57 users trust him

AFAIK being on DT1 need at least 10 users trust you and few other requirements, but even he's not on DT1, he's still on DT2 because there are many DT1 trust him.

Of course users who trust him are responsible for his actions because he left many more accurate feedback than the controversial or somewhat unnecessary one.

[LoyceV]

The dude "cannot trust" half the forum.

I don't trust 99% of the forum, but it's pointless to share that with everyone.

[JollyGood]

Considering the number of accounts registered in the forum, I would probably increase the number to +99.99% because the volume is too great. Trusting someone from the forum is not easy, trust has to be earned.

For example, this BabyBandit account was created last month, already posting in Reputation and Lending boards. Clearly it is not his first account here and we have no idea (apart from probably one day wanting to join a signature campaign) what his motive is therefore when adding these types of accounts to the list, the percentage of distrust increases.

The dude "cannot trust" half the forum.

I don't trust 99% of the forum, but it's pointless to share that with everyone.

[BabyBandit]

For example, this BabyBandit account was created last month, already posting in Reputation and Lending boards. Clearly it is not his first account here and we have no idea (apart from probably one day wanting to join a signature campaign) what his motive is therefore when adding these types of accounts to the list, the percentage of distrust increases.

My motive is probably... to spend some time on my free time here and learn more about bitcoin and crypto,  but who knows? Maybe I cannot be trusted either.
Don't forget that life is about having fun and be happy, not the opposite. I feel that you almost have forget about that, it's seems that it is alot of negativity around you.  

The dude "cannot trust" half the forum.

I don't trust 99% of the forum, but it's pointless to share that with everyone.

But it seems that almost 99% of the forum trust you, so you must doing something right here.  
I agree it's a bit unnecessary to use feedback this much, but I guess it also pointless to open threads about it and complain, a bit confusing everything, but sometimes funny to read, hehe.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

But why? Just to show how miserable you are? , so burn till the day you die if you can't stand me.

It is not clear to me if this is addressed to me, and although I would say no, and that it is more directed to those who have tagged you, I want to clarify that I do not know you very well from the forum, because I think we do not coincide much for the same boards, and as I said before I think that our manager will have had his good reasons to hire you. I have simply tried to make an analysis of the situation from an impartial point of view.

To answer your question. That red banner you see is from the old trust system. When Theymos introduced the trust flag system on June 12, 2019. He removed the concept of trust scores, but he didn't want to make the past trust feedback completely useless. So if a member received more negative feedback from DT members than positive. The red banner will appear for guest/newbie users. This only applies to feedback that was sent before the trust flags were introduced.

Thank you for the explanation. The only thing that is not clear to me is why, as I said before, the banner appears in some threads and not in others.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Thank you for the explanation. The only thing that is not clear to me is why, as I said before, the banner appears in some threads and not in others.

Because in some boards like Bitcoin Discussion, Bitcoin Technical Support etc. User trust ratings for any member posting there are hidden so the same applies to that red banner as viewed by guest users

[Stalker22]

Of all the negatives on your profile, it is only JG that bothers you?

In case you don't understand, it's because JollyGood deliberately wanted to offend the OP, wanted some more attention.

DaveF left a neutral, I don't know if that was really necessary but I don't think DaveF had any other motive. But the motive of JollyGood is very clear.
A person can have a past, for that they may not be proud but that does not mean they can not change. I have no opinion for OP but after 5 years why it's necessary to leave another negative feedback? Offend a member.

Ah I see! The OP has been inactive for almost five years and only recently got a new negative. I missed that fact.
Well, I wasn't around back then, and I do not know what the "climate" was like at that time, so I will leave this case for you seniors to discuss. I do not have an opinion on the OP either, and I do not recall ever interacting with them, so I cannot say whether he has changed or not.